deadspin

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Jun 1, 2017
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so i am still getting the loop with the mom and the shame was first at 74 then 85 and still gives me the loop -_-"
That seems to me way to low for shame at that point, I normally within the first 2 weeks can catch the mom in the shower, mia masturbating, and Jack masturbating. Normally at this point in the game your shame would be at 92-88 range. In what order are you seeing the events though, as long as you see one before the others it will throw the whole game off. It can be slow but try not use any cheats and use CRTL to skip dialogue you know that has no choice. Save as well before and after using a cheat so you don't backtrack too much. CRTL and saving are your friends though.
 

Crazybat

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I had put my shame at 74 where I saw May's mom in the shower prior to her asking for the batteries and Mia calling May to Jack's room before catching either Mia or Jack alone. I fixed by starting over but this time I took the advice you gave another(only use the shameless cheat once per day) and only used Shameless cheat device 1 time after the first week. My shame was then at 89. This time I saw everything in order and did not shower with May's mom prior to her asking for the batteries.
One thing i do find annoying is May having pubic hair and complains about it all the time. She takes so long to trim it (look in the mirror or the fact everyone and their dog comments how hairy she is ). I would think after the she felt so embarrassed after the Clothes Shop Swimsuit event she would or the fact the Nurse also tells her after her second visit.
Ok thaxs. About the her hair maybe it's stretching out to long, but hey we got rid of it eventually ;-)
 

Crazybat

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so i am still getting the loop with the mom and the shame was first at 74 then 85 and still gives me the loop -_-"
Got a save game from just before this happens? I could take a look and see what's causing this. I've attached a save game just from before this event.
 

LordStrike

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Sep 13, 2018
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Got a save game from just before this happens? I could take a look and see what's causing this. I've attached a save game just from before this event.
sadly i got angry and started the game again and i override the save file with the new one but thanks for the save file it worked and i also notice some of the other events were happened at a different time so that could have been.
 

DuDraig

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Oct 6, 2017
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I have progressed in this game to where I have:
Week 7, Day 4​
Shame 62​
Confidence 27​
Corruption 6​
Exhibitionism 23​
Sex Experience 5​
Mom 2, Mia 2, Jack 1, Gina 6, Daniel 6​

The jobs Library, Clothing Store, Flyers, and Lifeguard will no longer decrease Shame nor increase confidence. The job Gym Instructor seems to do nothing. Only the Cafe waitress job will decrease Shame. Stripping on the balcony and the webcam show (after stripping completely naked) no longer increase Exhibitionism. There is no way to further increase Exhibitionism.

The quests log has only four items in white:
  • Daniel
    "More in future release?"
    Apparently we've reached the current end of this quest line. This is the information a player needs although I don't understand the '?'.
  • Modeling
    "Wait for Jake to contact you again"
    This is after the Christmas calendar shoot. No calls have come and there is no clue if any more are forthcoming.
  • Webcam?
    "Unlocked stage2:Shoot some more"
    Since she stripped completely naked, the show never changes and the quest does not progress. There is no clue as to what should or can be done next.
  • Outdoor Exposure
    There is no item in white for this quest. What is missing is that the evening alley exposure action is still available to progress this quest but it still does not increase Exhibitionism.
As a player, I am left completely without any clue as to how to progress the game, or even if there is any more content. Browsing this forum and reading the Event Guide indicates that there is more content but provides no clue how to get to it. Apparently a lot of new content depends on the "shaving event" but no such event has ever occurred nor is there any clue as to how it can happen.

I have always argued against walkthroughs and guides since, if a player needs these to play the game then it is the game that is broken and should be fixed so that the player no longer needs them. Unfortunately, too many developers are more concerned with creating new content rather than finishing or fixing the current content. This shows an utter lack of concern for players and game playability.

This game is fun and interesting, and is worth the effort to try to get the developer to prioritize finishing and fixing the current content over new content.
  • A player should always be notified when the have reached the end of the current content of a quest or task.
  • A player should never find themselves grinding jobs, quests, or tasks without some known purpose. There is little more frustrating to a player them wasting hours on grinding for no purpose. If there is a grind task that has been put in but which does not yet serve a game purpose, the player should be notified of this (like the gym instructor job).
  • A player should always have access to an information source that will tell them their current quest, task, and goal status so that they know for what they are striving. Not necessarily how to do it, but that there is something they need to figure out or work through. Players should never be lost with no clue what they should be doing or why. Remember, most players do not play a game completely through in one session. They have to return to the game many times after bouts with real life and they need to be reminded where they left off. The quest log is a good way to do this but it is bug ridden and does not get the priority it should over other content. This is a critical player resource and should get the highest priority.
I hope the developer will consider these observations seriously and go back over the current content to address and fix these playability issues.

Until then, can someone give me a clue as to how to progress this game from where I am? :unsure:
 
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Crazybat

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I have progressed in this game to where I have:
Week 7, Day 4​
Shame 62​
Confidence 27​
Corruption 6​
Exhibitionism 23​
Sex Experience 5​
Mom 2, Mia 2, Jack 1, Gina 6, Daniel 6​

The jobs Library, Clothing Store, Flyers, and Lifeguard will no longer decrease Shame nor increase confidence. The job Gym Instructor seems to do nothing. Only the Cafe waitress job will decrease Shame. Stripping on the balcony and the webcam show (after stripping completely naked) no longer increase Exhibitionism. There is no way to further increase Exhibitionism.

The quests log has only four items in white:
  • Daniel
    "More in future release?"
    Apparently we've reached the current end of this quest line. This is the information a player needs although I don't understand the '?'.
  • Modeling
    "Wait for Jake to contact you again"
    This is after the Christmas calendar shoot. No calls have come and there is no clue if any more are forthcoming.
  • Webcam?
    "Unlocked stage2:Shoot some more"
    Since she stripped completely naked, the show never changes and the quest does not progress. There is no clue as to what should or can be done next.
  • Outdoor Exposure
    There is no item in white for this quest. What is missing is that the evening alley exposure action is still available to progress this quest but it still does not increase Exhibitionism.
As a player, I am left completely without any clue as to how to progress the game, or even if there is any more content. Browsing this forum and reading the Event Guide indicates that there is more content but provides no clue how to get to it. Apparently a lot of new content depends on the "shaving event" but no such event has ever occurred nor is there any clue as to how it can happen.

I have always argued against walkthroughs and guides since, if a player needs these to play the game then it is the game that is broken and should be fixed so that the player no longer needs them. Unfortunately, too many developers are more concerned with creating new content rather than finishing or fixing the current content. This shows an utter lack of concern for players and game playability.

This game is fun and interesting, and is worth the effort to try to get the developer to prioritize finishing and fixing the current content over new content.
  • A player should always be notified when the have reached the end of the current content of a quest or task.
  • A player should never find themselves grinding jobs, quests, or tasks without some known purpose. There is little more frustrating to a player them wasting hours on grinding for no purpose. If there is a grind task that has been put in but which does not yet serve a game purpose, the player should be notified of this (like the gym instructor job).
  • A player should always have access to an information source that will tell them their current quest, task, and goal status so that they know for what they are striving. Not necessarily how to do it, but that there is something they need to figure out or work through. Players should never be lost with no clue what they should be doing or why. Remember, most players do not play a game completely through in one session. They have to return to the game many times after bouts with real life and they need to be reminded where they left off. The quest log is a good way to do this but it is bug ridden and does not get the priority it should over other content. This is a critical player resource and should get the highest priority.
I hope the developer will consider these observations seriously and go back over the current content to address and fix these playability issues.

Until then, can someone give me a clue as to how to progress this game from where I am? :unsure:
Thank for the feedback . I just want to say because that's your experience doesn't mean everyone is experiencing it the same way. First off it's a sandbox game and yes it still need some more hits at some places. You should have played the earlier version that was much worse ;-). That why it's still WIP, simply because it not finished yet. So what it needs at all time is constructive feedback.

However looking at the long list it I get the impression you prefer players to be taken by hand and spoon fed every step of the way. I dunno if it's ever going to be that way, but I can agree I needs more guidance towards players at some points.
There will eventually be a guide. Well there is but it's still pretty limited at the moment.

I must say 7 weeks and still at 62 shame means I think you missed a lot of opportunity's to lower May's shame.
You should have been able to lower shame much further by week7.

Shame is at the moment the most important stats. Shame is lowered by the jobs you already mentioned and certain events a lot lower May's shame, but mostly it about the jobs. At your current level just keep repeating the Cafe Waitress job.

I suggest doing the cafe Job at least once a day, our use the cheat items inside the Red box in May room to lower her shame a bit faster. I recommend not to use it more then once a day. You should be hitting a new event at the gym at 61 shame. An event at the cafe at 60 en more event at 58 shame and below. You still have about 16 events to the last one at 40 shame for this version.

As for the exhibition event. There is another stage of the webcam event, but it will only unlock after a certain event at shame 53. So you can't lower the exhibition with the webcam event at this point.
Normally these events should be quite close together if you alternate them, but because you shame is lagging behind a bit it takes a bit longer to trigger.
 

Crazybat

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@Crazybat hey! just wondering once i finish all the events in the notepad, there is no more events left to unlock right?

Btw what do u have in mind for the next update?
Correct.

Some idea's for the next update:

- I'm planning on continuing at least some of the existing event trains like Janitor/Webcam but haven't decided which ones exactly.
Depends on for which I got some solid idea's
- I will try to give May her long awaited new outfit and finish the 2nd part
- It's time for a new mainjob and maybe finish work on some of the side job events.
- Add the second event to Gina sleepover.

This is the general direction I'm thinking in. How much actually gets gone I can't predict.
I usually end up having more stuff on my mind then that I have time/motivation to implement.
Progress can sometimes feel frustration slow and I sometimes wish I could do things faster then I'm able to do them.
 

Crazybat

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sadly i got angry and started the game again and i override the save file with the new one but thanks for the save file it worked and i also notice some of the other events were happened at a different time so that could have been.
Ak ok. I'll see if I can reproduce it by lower shame with a massive amount ;-).
 

Lafiel

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Oct 15, 2016
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I got soft locked after i visited the nurse. Before i visited the nurse i got two messages, that i need to visit her. After i've done it. (With rectal exam.) I can't leave the floor before the nurse office. She says, she must visit the nurse first. I played around with the shame a bit so it could be the problem there.
 

SukhiX

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Sep 4, 2018
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i am having problems with her waking up after the latest episode of her brother breaking into her room and fondling her and leaving with her panties, she is stuck in bed and it says too early to sleep and i cannot get her off the bed, anyone adjust my save or help? xxx
 
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