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The funniest thing is that Ocean didn't change the plot one bit. Everything is going as usual. I'm delighted with how he fucks you.That is what happens when you become the bitch of these services. They are a symptom of what is going wrong in our societies and why Hollywood is comatose on good movies. Due to the woke, politically correct loudmouths no little constantly annoyed snowflake is to be told the truth and not speaking about some things and events will make them go away.
Ocean retireing Leia and Kati as LIs since they are Willi´s sisters is one thing. But Patreon breathing down his neck due to Willi banging Leia in the past which made him flee the city is absurd! That is part of the backstory! But then again Patreon would not recognise writer´s creativity and freedom if it would stamp on their feet! One reason I boycott Patreon for years now!
I am a hobby writer myself and these flat fappers have zero say about what stories I write! It is bad enough that we have this epidemic of warning labels in books. That a crime or war story contains violent and/or shocking scenes is simple logic. You should not be surprised or need a warning sign!
WIAB is one victim of this spook, Ocean is rewriting it with a hot needle and it shows. A load of rubbish, not fitting anymore.
I know this might be a bit too optimistic on my part, but now that both reworks are finished and available on Steam, should we expect a shorter update cycle, or not?
jadepaladin
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Personally I'm gonna expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised if it comes sooner. There's not really any precedent with Ocean since he's all over the place.
You are most probably not a writer, since then you would not post such a BS. While the general plot outline has only small changes, the changes made to the characters and backstory, which are also important to a novel, are horrifying rubbish and the idiotball going around. It is pretty obvious that Ocean is throwing something together which he never intended before.
With these changes Willi has ZERO logical and emotional reasons to ever return to Wollust, just one example.
All the changes in Part 4 are a bluff. All these stories about criminal families are a bluff. There is someone, who controls Willie and Leia by influencing their consciousness. Willie and Leia are his project. He created them with one purpose. And this purpose is not achieved. Therefore, he forces Willie to return and fulfill his destiny.
Dr.TSoni
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It's not just you, apparently there were problems with the rights to the song
VicLex22
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I know who controls them Mr. Patreon and Miss Subscribestar.
BobTheDuck
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You missed the memo? Ocean said on discord that Nika is not related to anyone that has had screen time in WiaB, yet. THat means there will be someone he's related to that we'll see, but they haven't appeared. This means, Nika is most likely the child of one of the antagonist families, or collateral damage. I'd put my money on the antagonist offspring in a gang + NTR storyline.
But this means:
- Willi is not Nika's dad
- Leia is not Nika's mom
- Miru isn't
- Noji isn't
- Katie isn't
- Donna isn't
- Daphne isn't
- Zoey isn't
- Gefritzel isn't
etc. If we've seen them, Nika's not related.
The reason I bring that up is that there is no guarantee of the expected outcome of an action in WiaB leading to a consequence in SG. Some things seem clear (like Ayua existing, and Miru, Amber, Noji, Zoey, Stefan, Leia, Katie, Willi, Gefritzel, Elena, Emilio, Nicole and Dani surviving) While others are less clear (actual family connections).
Jenna could be spreading a rumour because she was jealous SHE wasn't getting coaching from Willi. Just like rumours about Willi and Leia were spread after Willi left. I have to remind myself that any person in a mafia game making a statement is quite possibly doing so with an ulterior motive, lying, or just messing with the truth, because they're all playing chess with someone in their mind and they all think they're immensely clever.
Additionally, with the consequences not being directly correlated, this means in SG is Ayua is now a lewdable option. It also means that Willi might indeed have relations with half the town, but he doesn't have certain children. Ocean doesn't have to make every single load from William stay on target. Given how regularly he crempies Miru without protection, he clearly isn't capablae of guaranteeing pregnancy with every shot of lover juice.
This suggests both that WIlli does have offspring, but the fan service of Willi being the daddy of Wollust won't take place.
Man, you just can't let it go. It's NO LONGER PART OF THE BACKSTORY. This is the new canon. THere is no old backstory in the game anymore. This is crying over spilt milk.That is what happens when you become the bitch of these services. They are a symptom of what is going wrong in our societies and why Hollywood is comatose on good movies. Due to the woke, politically correct loudmouths no little constantly annoyed snowflake is to be told the truth and not speaking about some things and events will make them go away.
Ocean retireing Leia and Kati as LIs since they are Willi´s sisters is one thing. But Patreon breathing down his neck due to Willi banging Leia in the past which made him flee the city is absurd! That is part of the backstory! But then again Patreon would not recognise writer´s creativity and freedom if it would stamp on their feet! One reason I boycott Patreon for years now!
I am a hobby writer myself and these flat fappers have zero say about what stories I write! It is bad enough that we have this epidemic of warning labels in books. That a crime or war story contains violent and/or shocking scenes is simple logic. You should not be surprised or need a warning sign!
WIAB is one victim of this spook, Ocean is rewriting it with a hot needle and it shows. A load of rubbish, not fitting anymore.
As a writer, I would ask you to temper your emphatic! Enthusiam! For! EXCLAMATIONS! Please, it's not this big a deal that every sentence needs an exclamation. Hard to take your stance seriously when the sky is falling every single sentence.
I get what has been lost of the original story. But it is lost, and it is not returning. Arguing why it was better or worse, arguing why patreon, SS etc are evil ...none of that changes that this is what we have and this is all there will be of WiaB moving forward. As a writer, you should be critiquing the internal cohesion (or lack thereof) of the narative. You should be discussing the internal inconsistencies, not the inconsistencies to know what is YOUR headcanon.
Old WiaB is gone.
Yes, the music license got revoked on him. He'll likely redo one by the time Season 1 ends early access is my guess.
X2JZcf
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Ocean treats music in his cinematics like it's Baby Blue from Breaking Bad. He needs a little ego check.
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MIkedante
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I'm just surprised, that Ocean went so far with this "Mafia bullshit", just to have no problems in future on those platforms, because we have still on Patreon titles like "Golden Mean" or "Amnesia", where you can even on start choose all protagonists to be regular family members, not to mention the one of biggest milkers ever DC with his "Summertime Saga" (which with small patch goes into full family stuff) is still there too! That's why I can't understand the need of all those changes, which altering the plot so much, that gives no sense.
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Duckyyyyyyyyy !You missed the memo? Ocean said on discord that Nika is not related to anyone that has had screen time in WiaB, yet. THat means there will be someone he's related to that we'll see, but they haven't appeared. This means, Nika is most likely the child of one of the antagonist families, or collateral damage. I'd put my money on the antagonist offspring in a gang + NTR storyline.
But this means:
- Willi is not Nika's dad
- Leia is not Nika's mom
- Miru isn't
- Noji isn't
- Katie isn't
- Donna isn't
- Daphne isn't
- Zoey isn't
- Gefritzel isn't
etc. If we've seen them, Nika's not related.
The reason I bring that up is that there is no guarantee of the expected outcome of an action in WiaB leading to a consequence in SG. Some things seem clear (like Ayua existing, and Miru, Amber, Noji, Zoey, Stefan, Leia, Katie, Willi, Gefritzel, Elena, Emilio, Nicole and Dani surviving) While others are less clear (actual family connections).
Jenna could be spreading a rumour because she was jealous SHE wasn't getting coaching from Willi. Just like rumours about Willi and Leia were spread after Willi left. I have to remind myself that any person in a mafia game making a statement is quite possibly doing so with an ulterior motive, lying, or just messing with the truth, because they're all playing chess with someone in their mind and they all think they're immensely clever.
Additionally, with the consequences not being directly correlated, this means in SG is Ayua is now a lewdable option. It also means that Willi might indeed have relations with half the town, but he doesn't have certain children. Ocean doesn't have to make every single load from William stay on target. Given how regularly he crempies Miru without protection, he clearly isn't capablae of guaranteeing pregnancy with every shot of lover juice.
This suggests both that WIlli does have offspring, but the fan service of Willi being the daddy of Wollust won't take place.
Man, you just can't let it go. It's NO LONGER PART OF THE BACKSTORY. This is the new canon. THere is no old backstory in the game anymore. This is crying over spilt milk.
As a writer, I would ask you to temper your emphatic! Enthusiam! For! EXCLAMATIONS! Please, it's not this big a deal that every sentence needs an exclamation. Hard to take your stance seriously when the sky is falling every single sentence.
I get what has been lost of the original story. But it is lost, and it is not returning. Arguing why it was better or worse, arguing why patreon, SS etc are evil ...none of that changes that this is what we have and this is all there will be of WiaB moving forward. As a writer, you should be critiquing the internal cohesion (or lack thereof) of the narative. You should be discussing the internal inconsistencies, not the inconsistencies to know what is YOUR headcanon.
Old WiaB is gone.
Yes, the music license got revoked on him. He'll likely redo one by the time Season 1 ends early access is my guess.
at least the one positive thing coming out of this rewrite was that Mc and Nami are not related to any Zane but following the new canon , it could mean that Mc and Nami are the survivors of 2 families that got wipe out getting adopted by Nojiko mirroring the Willian and Leia story .
this could be the answer to why Summer disappear ! , she was not supposed to get close to Mc and Nami
because of ....................
X2JZcf
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The Patreon page for WHIAB was destroyed, changes are needed so that it doesn't affect SG page, and SS doesn't delete the profile, since I is prohibited there too.
LHDLLB
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Fully agree. But one has to imagine why Ocean wait só long to give the word of god , and choose to do so now. How much this change affected the story ? But yeah, is great it gives him more room and flexibility. But Miru is on the pill, we don't know how effective William love juice is. For the rest I fully agree. Except maybe NTR, I don't think Ocean will canonise any NTR.You missed the memo? Ocean said on discord that Nika is not related to anyone that has had screen time in WiaB, yet. THat means there will be someone he's related to that we'll see, but they haven't appeared. This means, Nika is most likely the child of one of the antagonist families, or collateral damage. I'd put my money on the antagonist offspring in a gang + NTR storyline.
But this means:
- Willi is not Nika's dad
- Leia is not Nika's mom
- Miru isn't
- Noji isn't
- Katie isn't
- Donna isn't
- Daphne isn't
- Zoey isn't
- Gefritzel isn't
etc. If we've seen them, Nika's not related.
The reason I bring that up is that there is no guarantee of the expected outcome of an action in WiaB leading to a consequence in SG. Some things seem clear (like Ayua existing, and Miru, Amber, Noji, Zoey, Stefan, Leia, Katie, Willi, Gefritzel, Elena, Emilio, Nicole and Dani surviving) While others are less clear (actual family connections).
Jenna could be spreading a rumour because she was jealous SHE wasn't getting coaching from Willi. Just like rumours about Willi and Leia were spread after Willi left. I have to remind myself that any person in a mafia game making a statement is quite possibly doing so with an ulterior motive, lying, or just messing with the truth, because they're all playing chess with someone in their mind and they all think they're immensely clever.
Additionally, with the consequences not being directly correlated, this means in SG is Ayua is now a lewdable option. It also means that Willi might indeed have relations with half the town, but he doesn't have certain children. Ocean doesn't have to make every single load from William stay on target. Given how regularly he crempies Miru without protection, he clearly isn't capablae of guaranteeing pregnancy with every shot of lover juice.
This suggests both that WIlli does have offspring, but the fan service of Willi being the daddy of Wollust won't take place.
Man, you just can't let it go. It's NO LONGER PART OF THE BACKSTORY. This is the new canon. THere is no old backstory in the game anymore. This is crying over spilt milk.
As a writer, I would ask you to temper your emphatic! Enthusiam! For! EXCLAMATIONS! Please, it's not this big a deal that every sentence needs an exclamation. Hard to take your stance seriously when the sky is falling every single sentence.
I get what has been lost of the original story. But it is lost, and it is not returning. Arguing why it was better or worse, arguing why patreon, SS etc are evil ...none of that changes that this is what we have and this is all there will be of WiaB moving forward. As a writer, you should be critiquing the internal cohesion (or lack thereof) of the narative. You should be discussing the internal inconsistencies, not the inconsistencies to know what is YOUR headcanon.
Old WiaB is gone.
Yes, the music license got revoked on him. He'll likely redo one by the time Season 1 ends early access is my guess.
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