VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [S1 Ch.4 Fix 1 Steam] [Oceanlab]

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RNasc4444 said:
You're making me angry all over again...

That William render still pisses me off. I just wanna bash his skull in with a socket wrench (get it? :p) while I ask him calmly:
"WHY THE FUCK DID YOU COME BACK THEN YOU BRAINDEAD MONKEY?!?!!?!?"

And he replies as every bone in his face breaks and he drowns in blood:
"Ma....Maf.....ia....Mafia reasons.."
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Count me in! As we mentioned in more than a dozen posts, the new background has no feasable, logical or emotional reason why Willi should ever return to the people which are co-responsible for the death of his parents, (ab)used him like a pawn and betrayed him repeatedly. The only answer Willi should give any caller from Wollust (except Zoey, Dana or Monika) is "Go screw yourself and don´t call again!"
What annoys me especially is that the new update goes out of it´s way to reinforce the stupid plotholes and logcial disasters like this render with the text.:mad::mad: He should never have come back at all!
 
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Dr.TSoni said:
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Ok i will make an exception because she looks very polite


I would have preferred (and I think it would have been less confusing) if when William explained the situation to Miru he had said "She's not my mother, but it's as if she were."
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Too cloae to incest, Ocean is not given anyone any reasons, and that is the problem. William was never a Zane but they are in fact his family, I would fucking love a scene where William has to confront that, give this relationship deepth beyond mafia, is where Ocean shines and could be great but I think it still would be to close to something he dosen't want to be associated anymore and in turn we ger this something that is netiher.

Edit: Meaning they are not a mafia family but also are not a normal family. Those are things that he can workout that this update did not even tried to, it was just to make sure that William was not fucking his sister or mom or cousin or aunt. The only way it would be more clear was if Ocean slaped me with Patreon and SS ToS.
 
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jadepaladin said:
On the Dylan security thing, he went on the extreme end of "can't have too much security" with literally no security (and no, Helen does not count).
Leia literally had to send her own goons to support the family.
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RNasc4444 said:
But you see if you have too much security the bad guys may feel too "intimated" to threaten your family :WeSmart:
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Dylan just wants everyone to sit by the fire and sing kumbaya, like Leia's plan to unite the gangs.
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This has been covered and explained a few times already. I know you guys love bitching, but here's a summary:

1. The MC gang is their main enforcers and they are scattered without Joe. I assume Leia has a bunch of them in Joe's businesses.
2. The family is fragmented. Dylan's brother and sister took members with them when they split town. Tony looks kinda badass, and might have taken a lot of muscle with him. Incidentally, Tony is the one that doesn't talk to Dylan. He can't talk to Helen. Nobody fucking uses text messaging in this stupid Oceanverse.
3. Dylan's comment is that too much security would make it impossible to trap whoever is stalking the house, which is how he plans to find out what the fuck is going on. Is that bright? NO, but it's his plan. He is pretty tough, and has a shotgun. There's been no gunplay before. He figured it's low-risk. OOPS.
 
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Maccabbee said:
This has been covered and explained a few times already. I know you guys love bitching, but here's a summary:

1. The MC gang is their main enforcers and they are scattered without Joe. I assume Leia has a bunch of them in Joe's businesses.
2. The family is fragmented. Dylan's brother and sister took members with them when they split town. Tony looks kinda badass, and might have taken a lot of muscle with him. Incidentally, Tony is the one that doesn't talk to Dylan. He can't talk to Helen. Nobody fucking uses text messaging in this stupid Oceanverse.
3. Dylan's comment is that too much security would make it impossible to trap whoever is stalking the house, which is how he plans to find out what the fuck is going on. Is that bright? NO, but it's his plan. He is pretty tough, and has a shotgun. There's been no gunplay before. He figured it's low-risk. OOPS.
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The first and last point is true. The second is more on the speculative side. Did not the fed at the end said that the Zanes on Wollust were the bigger sect ? They must have more man beyond the Motoclub, só why they are reling on Leia for protection ?
 
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LHDLLB said:
The first and last point is true. The second is more on the speculative side. Did not the fed at the end said that the Zanes on Wollust were the bigger sect ? They must have more man beyond the Motoclub, só why they are reling on Leia for protection ?
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About the Zanes bigger in Wollust, I understood that it was in comparison with the two siblings who are in other places. For the last one, there is no answer, at least not yet.
 
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LHDLLB said:
The first and last point is true. The second is more on the speculative side. Did not the fed at the end said that the Zanes on Wollust were the bigger sect ? They must have more man beyond the Motoclub, só why they are reling on Leia for protection ?
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Because the MCs are Joe's and Leia is running Joe's businesses. Do you think those bouncers are not in the MC?
 
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sorco2003 said:
About the Zanes bigger in Wollust, I understood that it was in comparison with the two siblings who are in other places. For the last one, there is no answer, at least not yet.
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Yeah, but still, this is my point, they should not he relying of Leia's man to protect themselves
 
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ARROWM said:
isn't this game abandoned or am i mistaken? i haven't seen any post on the patreon or subscribestar page.
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You should check if you've been banned from subscribrestar or the latest updates section on this site.
Probably that's why you haven't seen posts.
 
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LHDLLB said:
Só the only men that the Zane has are those of the motoclub ? Dylan and Helen don't have any men of their own ?
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The MC is part of the family, though Joe. Joe is brother-in-law to Dylan. They are affiliated. Why would they need more people?

Also, the Family split in 3, Fred in locked up, Joe is locked up, there have been clashes with the Kraits (at least, if not with others), and lots of shit's gone down. The family is not as strong as usually.
 
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A whole year for this update and I didn't noticed any new contents at all, it finishes at the same place, very disappointed, hope the other game ain't the same.
 
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Maccabbee said:
The MC is part of the family, though Joe. Joe is brother-in-law to Dylan. They are affiliated. Why would they need more people?

Also, the Family split in 3, Fred in locked up, Joe is locked up, there have been clashes with the Kraits (at least, if not with others), and lots of shit's gone down. The family is not as strong as usually.
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Is not about more people, is about their people, people loyal to the Zanes and not the Aranos. Yeah, I get that they are allied but still. What is preveting Joe to just take all over ? Force is power in this world, and the Zanes have none. Is one thing to use the motoclub to do the dirty work and as cannon fodder but is another don't have personal of your own.

Yeah, the family took a blow but it seems like they still are the major players in Wollust, or that is the Italian Uncle?


bobbo69 said:
A whole year for this update and I didn't noticed any new contents at all, it finishes at the same place, very disappointed, hope the other game ain't the same.
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Just take off the mods mu dude
 
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Maccabbee said:
Because the MCs are Joe's and Leia is running Joe's businesses. Do you think those bouncers are not in the MC?
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LHDLLB said:
Yeah, but still, this is my point, they should not he relying of Leia's man to protect themselves
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LHDLLB said:
Só the only men that the Zane has are those of the motoclub ? Dylan and Helen don't have any men of their own ?
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I'm kinda like... how long has Joey Arano been in prison?

Surely, it's been at least a decade because all his employees seem to have forgotten he's the boss and now worship at the alter of Princess Leia.

Was Joey just the frontman for the Zane crime family?
 
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LHDLLB said:
Is not about more people, is about their people, people loyal to the Zanes and not the Aranos. Yeah, I get that they are allied but still. What is preveting Joe to just take all over ? Force is power in this world, and the Zanes have none. Is one thing to use the motoclub to do the dirty work and as cannon fodder but is another don't have personal of your own.

Yeah, the family took a blow but it seems like they still are the major players in Wollust, or that is the Italian Uncle?




Just take off the mods mu dude
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I don't use mods
 
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