UnoriginalUserName

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You may be right, but i doubt it's a rendering error, because in another render Selina has the same expression in the reflection on the lid
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Who knows. The dev's big on twisted reflections / showing alternate or opposite versions of people like those past/present/future visions the MC got.
 

jadepaladin

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I tried to continue playing, and feels like it gets worse, and it just doesn't make sense how many scenes are class locked to me.

I literally miss 5 Lia scenes. Why is it so many, its just upsetting how much you skip, cause you didn't go bookworm. I just don't get it.
That's how it goes though, so you'll replay as Bookworm.

Play as mage and you get all the extra Elin stuff with portals, their telepathic link and Alaina extras.

Play as Warrior and get the early encounter with Isis, the Elin masturbate scene, etc

Play as Bookworm and get Sona stuff, the early encounter with Aurora, the extra Lia scenes, deciphering Elvish, etc.
 

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That's how it goes though, so you'll replay as Bookworm.

Play as mage and you get all the extra Elin stuff with portals, their telepathic link and Alaina extras.

Play as Warrior and get the early encounter with Isis, the Elin masturbate scene, etc

Play as Bookworm and get Sona stuff, the early encounter with Aurora, the extra Lia scenes, deciphering Elvish, etc.
Its just dumb, I get side girls or some minor things or additons, but Lia is a main LI. It shouldn't skip that much content, just cause of one chosen class.

It makes this game so much worse I thought it was just a couple scenes, but why even have Lia as a LI, if you don't get any content with her except for one class.

She is the only Main girl to lose lewd scenes and romance based on class besides that one Elin scene, everyone else is based on choices pretty much. Everything else is just extra minor stuff like portals, etc.

If we are going this way lock all stuff Elin to mage and all things warrior to Cass, or make it fair at least.
 
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jadepaladin

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Its just dumb, I get side girls or some minor things or additons, but Lia is a main LI. It shouldn't skip that much content, just cause of one chosen class.

It makes this game so much worse I thought it was just a couple scenes, but why even have Lia as a LI, if you don't get any content with her.
I got plenty of content with Lia as a mage so I didn't really care about any of the extra stuff that I got from being a bookworm.

I actually like bookworm playthroughs the least despite liking Lia.
 

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I tried to continue playing, and feels like it gets worse, and it just doesn't make sense how many scenes are class locked to me.

I literally miss like 5 Lia scenes, unless bookworm. Why is it so many, its just upsetting how much you skip, cause you didn't go bookworm. I just don't get it.
the class locked content is good I think. what's the point of having to choose one of the classes if we can get all the content, might as well remove the whole class thing.
 

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the class locked content is good I think. what's the point of having to choose one of the classes if we can get all the content, might as well remove the whole class thing.
I disagree, there are already choices where we can't have all the content, like side girls, small bonus scenes, ring choice, bride choice, etc. That is not my problem.

My problem is Lia is the only main girl to have a significant amount of lewd and romance content locked off based on a class. You can still get like all Elin scenes excpet for one regardless of class same as Mom, and Cass.( They are choice based)

Lia is the only main girl to get constantly blocked off from certain content like that. Either lock the other sisters to specific paths more or loosen the grip on Lia scenes, to make it more fair.

I am fine with certain scenes or extra things, but locking off this much content with a main girl, when the other main girls don't get same treatment is wrong.
 

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I got plenty of content with Lia as a mage so I didn't really care about any of the extra stuff that I got from being a bookworm.

I actually like bookworm playthroughs the least despite liking Lia.
What's the mage-exclusive content with Lia as Mage? I thought only Bookworm got exclusive stuff with Lia?
 

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I disagree, there are already choices where we can't have all the content, like side girls, small bonus scenes, ring choice, bride choice, etc. That is not my problem.

My problem is Lia is the only main girl to have a significant amount of lewd and romance content locked off based on a class. You can still get like all Elin scenes excpet for one regardless of class same as Mom, and Cass.( They are choice based)

Lia is the only main girl to get constantly blocked off from certain content like that. Either lock the other sisters to specific paths more or loosen the grip on Lia scenes, to make it more fair.

I am fine with certain scenes or extra things, but locking off this much content with a main girl, when the other main girls don't get same treatment is wrong.
You're thinking of this game as purely as you average harem AVN, but LM's idea behind the classes is to give a little bit of an RPG feel to the game; Warrior MC experiences the story a little bit differently from a Mage MC and Bookworm MC (IMHO, if you want the most informed MC, go Bookworm - translating Elvish really comes in handy to explain some mysteries & lore).

In that regard, it's a cool mechanic to have. And sure, you might miss some scenes, but they're never crucial to developing the romance with any of the main LIs. You can still have a relationship with Lia while a Warrior, and everything important with her happens just based on your choices; the classes are a little bit of spice added in here & there.

While I understand your plight, this game was created to be played multiple times - and none of the playthroughs are designed to have you be the King of the Hill. You will always be missing something.

P.S. If you really want to be frustrated, you should've been here when 0.6 update (the Coup) released: if you killed Cass before it starts, you got nothing for the update (it literally ended in 1 minute of gameplay: no scenes with Elin, Lia, or the Queen) - while allowing the Coup to happen meant you got more scenes with each of them. How's that for fairness? I consider the current state as the better compromise.
 

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Also I didnt download the incest patch I thought all of Monkey's game are just incest, after I played his last one, which had some of the best taboo dialogue and visuals. I was like "Stepmom???"

Hope the Incest patch is updated
 

FalconLover420

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wow just wow, this update left me with some questions answered and more questions.
Selina while confirming she is my daughter is very cryptic on what is going on aside from stating do not trust the script.
Also your children's personality depends on the mother, its fun to witness that.

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it was a nice update tho, thanks!
 
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Oh fuck, my save is dead, now I will have to find one with all or most of my decisions.
 

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I disagree, cause those choices like coup and other things are choices in game you can make. That is totally fine.

You say experience a little differently, yeah that is also fine, the problem is why is only Lia's scenes locked behind a class, and not other main girls. And I don't want to play bookworm, I just want a couple scenes added back at least to make it fair, cause once again, why isn't Elin locked to mage scenes mainly or Cass to Warrior. You can get all Elin's scenes except one based on choices not class.

You say I can still romance, what is the point of a romance if you skip all the content. What, I get 2 scenes, (skipping like 5) really great romance.:rolleyes:
Might as well just kill her off.

I just don't see why Lia has her content locked through class and others through only choice. It is the biggest disappointment and makes zero sense. Just treat her the same as the other main girls.

And as for replay, you can already do that, with which bride, coup choice, corruption and love, I shouldn't have to play a specific class or miss all of a Lia's scenes, cause it doesn't work that way for the other girls. Plus I don't have time to play every game 10 times, there are other games, life, etc. to do.
I mean, if you want to experience the full Elin romance, you want to be a Mage so you can travel worlds with her. all that stuff helps develop their relationship, even if it has no attached variables that the game keeps track of (except the telepathic link).

And I disagree about the Coup decision being "fine" - you literally just lose out on important lewd content, but also story beats. You miss out on Lia scenes, Elin scenes, and the hottest of them all - Queen's scenes. That's a pretty big fucking deal, if you ask me.

There is practically no benefit (still true, as of 1.0) to avoiding the Coup entirely, just as there is no consequence to be on the Queen's Corruption path prior to 0.8 (the bath scene). Somethings just get overlooked on such a tight development schedule. The game as a whole still rocks, but we can't ignore the 'cracks' here and there - some smaller than others.
 
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It says this is v1.0. Does that mean this VN is complete, as in that it is ready to be read fully without having to wait years?
Thanks for the info.
 

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It says this is v1.0. Does that mean this VN is complete, as in that it is ready to be read fully without having to wait years?
Thanks for the info.
Do you see the Completed tag anywhere? No.

Because it's not completed. Chapter 1 will end with update 1.1, after which comes Chapter 2.This game is "far from over", per the dev's words.
 
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FalconLover420

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Yeha, you lose some of the Elin romance with no mage, but you still get romance, the lewds don't decrease, like Lia does on bookworm. Like what is the reason we can't get the dinner scene wirh her before marriage sex, or chronicles one where its talking about paintings, and such. Those feel like they shouldn't be class locked.

As for coup, stopped playing, actually fast forward through some, cause was tired of getting shafted on Lia scenes, but actually you don't get Queen or Elin scenes if you do any part of coup. You lose two. Lia actually gets one that isn't path locked regardless of coup, amazing concept.

If you go through part of coup, the only thing added is some extra cass scenes, losing a queen and elin scene. Felt like a decent trade off and story branch, unless somethings are missed later, that I don't know about.

And the Lia thing feels like a pretty big crack to me that is putting a major damper on this game. Like still don't know why those two scenes previously mentioned are path locked, like literally for dinner Lia scene, all that wa mentioned from quick glance was the party scene, dance, non path locked scene.
Honestly, it doesn't really matter at this point of any early scenes aside from you stopping Elin with having sex with her husband and having the romance tag with the queen.


And honestly, the two scenes don't really matter because 1) Queen scenes are just shoved in and don't make sense. 2) Elin realistically has a scene V.9

Finally Lia, you can have sex with her on any path, the only thing you "miss" is just the playing doctor and the extended sex scene at the party. You can still sex after coup, and recent update.
 

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Not sure on other stuff with Elin and Queen cause didn't focus or get there, stopped, I wss just talking about immediate coup choice lewd scenes, which is fine, either way, not my main focus. Just saying not going through with coup gets those scenes to that guy, not other way around.

But with Lia, You actually miss a whole lot more than that. You miss doctor, didn't know about extended party scene but that, you scene called chronicles, you miss the dinner lewd scene before marriage sex, you miss library sex. I think that is it

So overall you miss 4 scenes and an extended scene. You only get party scene and after coup scene and current update according to you, so you miss a whole lot just for chosen class(unless there is some bug I am unaware of), which is my problem.
Actually - the blowjob from Lia during MC's wedding dinner depends on whether or not you suggest Conrad for the Council. If you choose him, then Lia doesn't get drunk enough to blow you. Pick Aker or don't make a suggestion at all to get the wedding dinner blowjob with Lia - it's not class-locked.

And no, if you prevent the Coup from happening at all, you get 0 scenes with Queen, Lia or Elin. If you let the Coup happen - but don't agree to it, then you still get the scenes with all the girls. You have to resist Cass at all points, though. To me, that was a massive crack that almost ruined the game.
 
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