EroShane

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I have the Better Repack 1.3 and added extension sub downloaded but whenever I go to the housing island (even when i had 1.2) the game lags so much and the water/sky looks "black" or wont load properly plus even if i 'etch' with the merchant the cum turns black or invisible or something (only on the Housing island) ?? Anyone else have this issue?? One would think that since there is only an island and water there would be no glitching/lag compared to the ruined island but idk so i generally avoid going to the housing island but it would be nice to still utilize it... I also tried lowering to performance and graphics to 1 but its still laggy af
That sucks... What kind of CPU/GPU setup you rocking? That sounds like a shader issue, but it's odd that it would only apply to the housing island. Yes FPS should be like 150+ innately if you were getting 30's on the main island with 4 gals when you first arrive. When Shan/Beauty shows up it drops like 20-30fps then as you add girls it'll go down respectively again, but with Shan and 2 custom girls running around, without any major buildings, it should be like 80-90fps+ at first. Once you build a mondo hotel and farms it'll drop to 50+fps but still runs better than the Ruined Island.
 
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How do I update the game to R1.3, and is anyone else having problems at starting a new game and saving a created character??
If you have 1.2 you just get the 1.3 update and install over. If you don't or you have a retail v1.0.0 or the Girlcelly/Nyaa/Nemu releases, then you can patch up from r1.1 to 1.3 one patch at a time, but it may be faster to just grab 1.3 full. Depends on your data allowances I guess. Metered network or not...

Do you mean you created a new character in the creator, then started a game and cannot save -- or do you mean that you are creating new characters while playing the story at a terminal? If it is the latter don't do that... It bugs the game on some systems for unknown reasons presently. The game doesn't like using the in game modification/creation functions for some reason. Create them in creator then just choose them in game. I would also suggest, import, save, exit, reload as the new timer set being dynamically added not on the same exact 30 second delta time loop causes odd FPS drops because they are making decisions at different times which seems to cause scripting and animation conflicts with the girls/Shan. Restarting the game from title seems to fix it as the timers start in sync upon world load.

When you load a new girl, the game is suspended/paused in the background. If you add in a new girl, it only loads the new character, which has it's own independent set of timers for all stats that dynamically change as your game progresses. In a worst case scenario, you can actually have girls going into animation change/decide mode every 7 seconds or so, which will repeatedly slam your CPU causing FPS drops. Upon reload all timers are reset to 0 and sync with the CPU clock timer (delta time). The girl makes her first decision roll as the game loads in, then repeats every 30 seconds, which is why twice per minute we all get a lag spike with momentary FPS drop, this is the girls AI making a choice for the next action to perform. If the timers aren't in sync, then you encounter more "decisions" being made at separate times. This also applies to modifying the girls. Ergo, it is best to use the character creator at the title then load them in, then unload and reload the game after loading in a new girl.

Don't ask me why they did it this way...
 
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What "Nympho" trait? What are you referring to?
One of the H skills in the special section of the trader's shop.

In the upright "wardrobe" (closet, dresser, however it was translated for your game) -- The white armoire thingy... There are two places to put clothing. The "top" doors and the "bottom" drawers. The top is regular daily wear clothing, the bottom is bathing apparel. You can only place bathing suits in the one that looks like baskets on a rack, it is the "bottom" storage only, as are all the random "dresser" locations on the map. Only by using the top doors on the wardrobe, can you add wearable clothing outfits, otherwise you end up with the girls putting on a "work clothes" outfit or dress you designed to take a bath.

For some reason, the top doors cannot be highlighted on many people's games now. No idea why, but if you stand in front, only the bottom goes green, no matter how much you look up. I even tried placing a temporary wardrobe in a base build with a random staircase next to it, then staking the small stone framed floor #3 to make a stair step up to the front where you cannot see the bottom half, it still won't lock on to the top doors. Until this gets some attention, I don't think we'll have dynamic clothing changing that makes any sense anymore.

It wasn't the BR1.3 but when the 1108 patch was added to BR1.3. I am going to try to grab a clean BR2 full and import my saves to it and see if that fixes the issue, but I don't know... I also don't know if this was fudged on Illusion's end or not, as most DLC update and patch issues have been thus far...
You change which drawer you interact with using the scroll wheel, the same for different spots on a larger bed or when there are a bunch of interactable objects in range all at once.

No they are AI and were created in the laboratory on the Island... It seems by Shan's/Beauty's "father" which the word seems to be progenitor, which could mean creator, originator, or founder in English, so father seems to be a poor translation also. Shan/Beauty was the first on the island after the "father" vanished (word could also have meant perished, which could also mean died, etc., looking at the state of the island in a Chernobyl like appearance, it seems something bad happened to humanity) and she has since maintained it (poorly may I personally add). Also, when the girls first appear they are all retarded and will literally die if you don't teach them how to eat, sleep, bathe, farm up food, etc., even though they are apparently 20-ish by their base appearance. Lending to the idea that they are in fact, AI-Girls... Also, no pregnancy and such, no "high risk" days or anything like former Illusion games... It seems they are androids... for many reasons besides the title.

Also the first girl's growth story reveals how she is mentally evolving and she is grateful for you teaching her to be human.

I feel there is more than enough evidence to support the robots concept than to refute it, regardless of translation flukes.
I see, I'll have to give the story a read on my next playthrough if it is translated well enough to be understood. I want to design a whole "family" of girls based on my first and use them as the girls for the unlock terminals and I also don't like which personality my first got in my first playthrough. Your comment does leave a question, though. You said father in quotes when referring to Shan but in other parts you talked about her as if she was human. Are the girls you create and unlock the only artificial ones or is she one as well?
 

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One of the H skills in the special section of the trader's shop.


You change which drawer you interact with using the scroll wheel, the same for different spots on a larger bed or when there are a bunch of interactable objects in range all at once.


I see, I'll have to give the story a read on my next playthrough if it is translated well enough to be understood. I want to design a whole "family" of girls based on my first and use them as the girls for the unlock terminals and I also don't like which personality my first got in my first playthrough. Your comment does leave a question, though. You said father in quotes when referring to Shan but in other parts you talked about her as if she was human. Are the girls you create and unlock the only artificial ones or is she one as well?
I believe, or at least what seems to be alluded to, is that Shan is the first AI-Girl, and not human, but obviously a replica of someone close to the creator/father (wife/daughter/etc). It seems, and again, without being a fluent Japanese speaker it's hard to know, that she was left in charge of protecting the others through whatever occurred, which is also pretty unclear... Maybe the writer's intention is to leave all those questions open ended, like it don't matter, you imagine the scenario and build what is going on now from wherever your imagination took you... I know not many people give credit to those that produce pornographic content to exactly be creative types, but some truly are...

I believe they are all androids, so if I stated anything that seemed to allude I believe any of them other than the main character hero/player is human it wasn't intended. I am questioning if even the player is human, or if they are all robots acting human that don't know they are robots -- like the theme of Westworld. However, custom girl 1 does seem to know she isn't human...

Note: watch the 1970's porno "White Rabbit," for some tripped out psychedelic writing in the form of a pornographic take on Alice in Wonderland, but still immensely creative for a low budget film/porn based on a lesser known indie comic book. When I was in high school my girlfriend back then introduced me to it while tripping face... Some of my life's best trip and sexual experiences in one night!!! It was almost as good as Pink Floyd the Wall while on LSD. LOL!
 

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One of the H skills in the special section of the trader's shop.


You change which drawer you interact with using the scroll wheel, the same for different spots on a larger bed or when there are a bunch of interactable objects in range all at once.


I see, I'll have to give the story a read on my next playthrough if it is translated well enough to be understood. I want to design a whole "family" of girls based on my first and use them as the girls for the unlock terminals and I also don't like which personality my first got in my first playthrough. Your comment does leave a question, though. You said father in quotes when referring to Shan but in other parts you talked about her as if she was human. Are the girls you create and unlock the only artificial ones or is she one as well?
BTW: Thanks for the "scrollwheel" observation... I'll try that out when I get home. I hope that works for me! I've been unable to fix the clothing thing for weeks, to think something so simple was overlooked. I would say I wonder why they changed it, but then I can see why immediately if you have ever been trying to interact with a girl in a bed with a light, fireplace, dresser, etc., nearby... LOL! Light on, light off, light on, fireplace off, fireplace on, dammit!!! ROFL!

Ah, I guess what you are calling Nympho is likely the "Slut" trait (or Burning, Lust, Cursed Body) -- there are so many translation variations right now. AND LOL, everyone swears theirs is the right one! LOL!

It's like religions...
 

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Tried to modify the values for the PushUp mod, but it did nothing. I'm using the R2 version. Doesn't matter if I changed the slider in the main menu, or after I loaded a save and played, nothing changed. Dem tiddies are still extra firm and pushed up. :KEK:

Also, can you rotate the full housing grid? I would like to have my house looking another way, but it's such a drag rotating every furniture inside 1by1. Can you move everything together?
You can try the PushUp mod in [Character Creation] to see their effect. Changing PushUp parameters for each Costume made me excited because my girls have different measurements and the clothes should fit separately.
(I am using HF Patch v1.0 of ManlyMarco and PushUp version 1.1.1)

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I believe, or at least what seems to be alluded to, is that Shan is the first AI-Girl, and not human, but obviously a replica of someone close to the creator/father (wife/daughter/etc). It seems, and again, without being a fluent Japanese speaker it's hard to know, that she was left in charge of protecting the others through whatever occurred, which is also pretty unclear... Maybe the writer's intention is to leave all those questions open ended, like it don't matter, you imagine the scenario and build what is going on now from wherever your imagination took you... I know not many people give credit to those that produce pornographic content to exactly be creative types, but some truly are...

I believe they are all androids, so if I stated anything that seemed to allude I believe any of them other than the main character hero/player is human it wasn't intended. I am questioning if even the player is human, or if they are all robots acting human that don't know they are robots -- like the theme of Westworld. However, custom girl 1 does seem to know she isn't human...

Note: watch the 1970's porno "White Rabbit," for some tripped out psychedelic writing in the form of a pornographic take on Alice in Wonderland, but still immensely creative for a low budget film/porn based on a lesser known indie comic book. When I was in high school my girlfriend back then introduced me to it while tripping face... Some of my life's best trip and sexual experiences in one night!!! It was almost as good as Pink Floyd the Wall while on LSD. LOL!
I see, that makes sense with the other girls being artificial. I just ran a little dialogue test on a different girl that was included in the repack so I could see how it looks to load one into an existing save and I couldn't understand some of it even though it was translated, so I think I'll give it a bit of time before I move on, maybe make the other girls in the "family" so I can have them ready when the time comes to load them in.

BTW: Thanks for the "scrollwheel" observation... I'll try that out when I get home. I hope that works for me! I've been unable to fix the clothing thing for weeks, to think something so simple was overlooked. I would say I wonder why they changed it, but then I can see why immediately if you have ever been trying to interact with a girl in a bed with a light, fireplace, dresser, etc., nearby... LOL! Light on, light off, light on, fireplace off, fireplace on, dammit!!! ROFL!

Ah, I guess what you are calling Nympho is likely the "Slut" trait (or Burning, Lust, Cursed Body) -- there are so many translation variations right now. AND LOL, everyone swears theirs is the right one! LOL!

It's like religions...
No problem, it took me a bit to figure out. Yeah, I mean that trait, the one that allows her to force you into H, which, fair warning, is unfortunately bugged at the moment. When leaving forced H, you get stuck just looking at the girl when she should be saying her after H line with no dialogue box as if you hid it. I tested several possibilities to see if maybe it was a mod, but no effect.
 
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I see, that makes sense with the other girls being artificial. I just ran a little dialogue test on a different girl that was included in the repack so I could see how it looks to load one into an existing save and I couldn't understand some of it even though it was translated, so I think I'll give it a bit of time before I move on, maybe make the other girls in the "family" so I can have them ready when the time comes to load them in.


No problem, it took me a bit to figure out. Yeah, I mean that trait, the one that allows her to force you into H, which, fair warning, is unfortunately bugged at the moment. When leaving forced H, you get stuck just looking at the girl when she should be saying her after H line with no dialogue box as if you hid it. I tested several possibilities to see if maybe it was a mod, but no effect.
To be expected, they fix one thing and that breaks two others...

Like I keep telling folks that complain about bugginess -- treat this title presently like a late Alpha or early Beta release... It's far from complete and the modding community is really just getting started for this as it is such a mish-mash of programming techniques.

I mean, ironically, the Unity HDRP 2019.2 is a beta also, but then you have this Frankensteined together program on the backend, that is so wonky, when browsing it, you have to give pause and say, "Why is this here?!?" I.E. The driving simulator scripts and vehicle physics assets... Like there isn't even a car in the game (yet, at least, fingers crossed that it is for a reason), but I think they just left behind huge chunks of Unity's free sample game assets packages. I'll laugh if I can find the "Ethan" model buried in there one day digging around. That would confirm it 100% for me.

NOTE: The Ethan model was the first little free asset toy they gave you with the new HDRP 3rd Person controller rig for 2019.2 pre-release beta testing. It's a little Final Fantasy/Fallout style steampunk model with scripted walk, run, crouch, and jump animations attached with a super buggy follow camera script that is right ready for deletion the moment you fire it up for the first time because it was so horribly scripted (clipping through walls and getting stuck under the ground). Just so you follow what I am kidding around about...

At present, this game release is very amateurish, although the actual model quality and anims are very good, some of the shader/texture work is great, some of it is terrible, and the absolutely strange resolution based tile scaling thing is absurdly odd... Then some of it is ridiculously implemented, like a child tried to program a Unity game without any experience. Their post processing handling is a great example of how inexperienced this was. Then again, this is all on a game engine that has only existed for 9 months. LOL! So, we need to be fair...
 
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To be expected, they fix one thing and that breaks two others...

Like I keep telling folks that complain about bugginess -- treat this title presently like a late Alpha or early Beta release... It's far from complete and the modding community is really just getting started for this as it is such a mish-mash of programming techniques.

I mean, ironically, the Unity HDRP 2019.2 is a beta also, but then you have this Frankensteined together program on the backend, that is so wonky, when browsing it, you have to give pause and say, "Why is this here?!?" I.E. The driving simulator scripts and vehicle physics assets... Like there isn't even a car in the game (yet, at least, fingers crossed that it is for a reason), but I think they just left behind huge chunks of Unity's free sample game assets packages. I'll laugh if I can find the "Ethan" model buried in there one day digging around. That would confirm it 100% for me.

NOTE: The Ethan model was the first little free asset toy they gave you with the new HDRP 3rd Person controller rig for 2019.2 pre-release beta testing. It's a little Final Fantasy/Fallout style steampunk model with scripted walk, run, crouch, and jump animations attached with a super buggy follow camera script that is right ready for deletion the moment you fire it up for the first time because it was so horribly scripted (clipping through walls and getting stuck under the ground). Just so you follow what I am kidding around about...

At present, this game release is very amateurish, although the actual model quality and anims are very good, some of the shader/texture work is great, some of it is terrible, and the absolutely strange resolution based tile scaling thing is absurdly odd... Then some of it is ridiculously implemented, like a child tried to program a Unity game without any experience. Their post processing handling is a great example of how inexperienced this was. Then again, this is all on a game engine that has only existed for 9 months. LOL! So, we need to be fair...
That first part sums up programming in general. You don't want to know how many times I've fixed a bug just to have several more pop up out of nowhere, it happens a lot more than the player ever actually sees without being a programmer themselves. Given that, I'm sure it was much worse before release and it's actually not bad at all considering literally one thing is bugged that I've found and that thing can be avoided. I just need to get another trait in game and overwrite the slut trait according to the loading screen for it.
 
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You can try the PushUp mod in [Character Creation] to see their effect. Changing PushUp parameters for each Costume made me excited because my girls have different measurements and the clothes should fit separately.
(I am using HF Patch v1.0 of ManlyMarco and PushUp version 1.1.1)

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No unfortunately at present you cannot rotate the scene or even highlight everything with CTRL+ clicks to get the whole building or even rooms to rotate, although they should implement such a thing since by default the plugin they used for the sandbox building sections actually has such rules enabled by default, which means they actually had to deselect them manually in the script upon exporting the final build... much to our chagrin.
 

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I tried to find an accurate definition of "Darkness" in this thread and elsewhere but somehow could not find it.
It seems negative towards the player?
If so how do you reduce it?
 
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