Omnikuken

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Yeah, the whole savegame situation certainly isn't really satisfactory. I mean, first they said it would be done, which is certainly does not fully right now, and even more importantly, there are more and more connections between different stories and there'll be more and more stories which rely on old content. While it's fine to replay the tutorial every update, replaying full arcs just to check whether Becca reacts differently towards MC or to see whether Harold gets his BJ or not simply isn't my definition of fun.

They really should try to make it work for the sake of the players. I'd expect another boost in earnings once the translations work and DC should really have the money to support strayerror and hire someone who will get the savegame stuff done properly. At least to me it's the biggest flaw of the game and one that seems to be fixable with money.
Old content/Erik's route aside, keep in mind that Renpy doesn't like when you change code earlier in game. The engine isn't made to cope with loading save games with altered junk 200 lines of code above.

Unless they reallllllllllllllly wanna recode 99%+ of the game/make an entire update purely on fixing code/stop altering the game's start every build, we'll have the janky "works but not really" state we got now

No, they don't. 19.5 saves do not work with the new 20.x version.

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If I open any of those, I can't proceed where the save should proceed.


Also mentioned in the first post.
Saving in the middle of a scene/dialog doesn't work in 0.20.1 either so your point is pretty moot .............
 

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Old content/Erik's route aside, keep in mind that Renpy doesn't like when you change code earlier in game. The engine isn't made to cope with loading save games with altered junk 200 lines of code above.

Unless they reallllllllllllllly wanna recode 99%+ of the game/make an entire update purely on fixing code/stop altering the game's start every build, we'll have the janky "works but not really" state we got now


Saving in the middle of a scene/dialog doesn't work in 0.20.1 either .............
Had no issues with it in 19.5. Especially for what I used them. Not to play, just check if sentence is correct or not. For this it worked fine. For gameplay I used only outside dialogue saves, anyway.

But 19.5 saves just before the dialog or scene starts, don't work either in 20.x.

Summertime Saga is so far the only game I know which has problems saving during a dialogue. Never had any such issues in other Renpy games.
 

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No, they don't. 19.5 saves do not work with the new 20.x version.

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If I open any of those, I can't proceed where the save should proceed.


Also mentioned in the first post.
And also they mention you should only save in the town map or in MC's bedroom. Makes probabiliity to get working saves much higher.

My 0.19.5 saves all worked, even 0.19.1 saves, except a few ones where I saved in the middle of a running story that they changed.

I admit I also have some broken saves, but I count that normal, because I have a mod installed that I develop while playing. Nevertheless, most saves work.

And, by the way, saves in the middle of a dialog or outside town map or MC's bedroom do not automatically get corrupted. They can be used to try something out. However, I would always discard those and proceed from a "normal" save that has been made earlier.
 
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No, they don't. 19.5 saves do not work with the new 20.x version.

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If I open any of those, I can't proceed where the save should proceed.


Also mentioned in the first post.
What do you know another person doesn’t listen to the developer or read the charge log. You to load a save from the map or from my bedroom. I did that and my loaded with no problem.
 

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In the upcoming Rhonda update, will Rhonda get her "special 'Protein' shake" and will it have performance enhancement qualities? Will Aunt Diane have new product lines of protein shakes and gourmet ice cream and cheese? Will we ever get the ice cream stand on the nude beach, ( I'm still pushing for the nude beach! - After all, Rhonda needs to work on her tan, . . . )
 

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Until DC reworks all the old stuff that is still in the game we can't really expect save compatibility. It sucks but we can't really do anything about it, people don't vote for the reworks. Even yesterday he was working on Judith's art because he wants all the characters in the first day of school to be on the new rig system. I don't know how much it affects the chances of we getting saves working for the next update. I just don't expect us to have fully working save compatibility for at least the next 2 years. Every upcoming update will be a coin flip.
 
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Omnikuken

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If he focuses on the schoolgirls without routes, we should be ok for a while. He can't recode them if they got nothing yet, so saves should be more lenient and useable. Not that hitting new game every 3 months is the end of the world like so many dudes claim it to be
 

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I don't mind it that much I replayed the whole game so many times now, and I still enjoy it.
 
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@2xjj:
There's really no need to sugarcoat these things. Sure, there are saves and they technically work, but the whole system is far, far from what it should be and it's indeed not what people expected when DC said saves would work. I mean, it's the only game I know where you constantly have to be aware to not potentially mess up your savegames and where you simply have to hope that your saves from the last update may indeed work. Sure, there are some games where old saves don't work at all, but they usually offer other mechanisms to cope.

Right now for SS it's just a confusing situation which really should be improved to make the whole experience more player friendly. It's simply in everybody's interest.

@Badjourasmix:
That's to some degree what I meant with the problem seems to be fixable with money. By now the capacity to recode things without renewing the story or the art for the sake of perfectly working savegames should be there. At least in my opinion the argument of not wasting money, as it was very legit 2 years ago, gets a little weaker once the budget rises by this much.
 
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Badjourasmix

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@2xjj:
There's really no need to sugarcoat these things. Sure, there are saves and they technically work, but the whole system is far, far from what it should be and it's indeed not what people expected when DC said saves would work. I mean, it's the only game I know where you constantly have to be aware to not potentially mess up your savegames and where you simply have to hope that your saves from the last update may indeed work. Sure, there are some games where old saves don't work at all, but they usually offer other mechanisms to cope.

Right now for SS it's just a confusing situation which really should be improved to make the whole experience more player friendly. It's simply in everybody's interest.

@Badjourasmix:
That's to some degree what I meant with the problem seems to be fixable with money. By now the capacity to recode things without renewing the story or the art for the sake of perfectly working savegames should be there. At least in my opinion the argument of not wasting money, as it was very legit 2 years ago, gets a little weaker once the budget rises by this much.
I agree, at this point in development and with the budget they have, it shouldn't really be an issue. You can even make the same argument about the art, they could find someone to help them with the art. But I don't know if it's that easy to find someone trustworthy that is willing to work on the project for just a couple of months to fix the save issue. I'm sure if you throw enough money you could find someone, but it comes down to how much money he is willing to spend on that.
 

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Who....why...what the fuck was that hospital old woman scene....why....
Would be nice to get the MC's grandmother on either side of the family into the game. Gotta love G.I.L.F's and it adds more to to taboo aspect of the game which is the best lol. Plus damn it I still want to see more Judith scenes lol
A gilf with gray hair and massive bewbs.
Best GILF to have LMFAO.
OMG. The GILF we have might count as funny. Leave it at that. Why do people keep hijack my favorite games and make them into something completely different?
 
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