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MrFriendly

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The Pheromones was a joke, hence my xD after.

Obviously though, there IS something supernatural going on with Werner.
Tania and Andi both notice it while he's passing by.
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So something is going on with the MC supernaturally or metaphysically that got their attention and then its his follow up words about them being beautiful peaked their interest.

My problem is that Werner is only going to get Tania because Jensen is not available to her.

Its like having a girlfriend who's fucked your best friend (alot) and would rather of been with your best friend instead of you had he been available. Only its worse because you as the current bf got to experience all the kinky/nasty stuff said best friend did with your girlfriend before you.

Does that make any sense?

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I know my posts sound like I'm just relentlessly shitting on this VN, but honestly its only because I like it, a lot.
The story is intriguing and a decent number of the girls are super hot.
I just am pointing out the parts I did not like and how they could be corrected in the future to make the story/game better.
Because the story is very new and has time to make itself better and with a few course corrections now, this visual novel could be fucking amazing. And I'd like to think, judging by the amount of likes my posts here have been getting, I might be on to something? -Shrugs-
As someone who is not nearly as much of a follower of Mr Knobb (sorry Mr Knobb) I didn’t know that those two were people from the previous game until I came on here. I have to say that I’d much rather not have this game have anything to do with that game, mostly because I like just having everything be “new” and not knowing that this MC is fucking the rejects of a previous MC.
However, I can completely understand wanting to have a connected “universe” - it’s hot these days - and I’m not that upset about it. My main issues were all the voyeurism shots from the previous release which seem to be mostly gone. Still don’t like Anne or Summer, Ms Honey is hot and needs a lot of lotion spread all over her, and I think the story is going to be interesting. I chafe at the lack of choice but that’s to be expected with a Mr Knobb’s story. Kind of delighted we’ve been able to make the decisions we’ve made. Just need to curtail my impulse to rail against the confinement and go play other games to satisfy that need.
 

LWtbo

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I still kina like Samara, so you are welcome for that trip.

But also some points.
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This choice should of been offered a bit before having to actually see it happen. Even if you choose not to watch...

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You still have to see it happen for a shot or two in the background. :/

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Yup, this is obviously just two friends, nothing romantic or sexual going on here...
You see how this could of been a very sweet moment between Samara and MC? If you didn't just see her fucking her BF a second ago you wouldn't of even notice how sweaty she is, you'd just be drawn in by her eyes.

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And finally almost caught in the act.
Sam, instead of being conflicted over what just happened between her and Werner, decides to doubles down on her commitment to her BF... literally jumping into his arms and professing her love for him.
It makes her seem less conflicted and more duplicitous to me. Like if she can act like that was nothing... maybe it was really nothing? Or maybe she can turn it on or off with the snap of her fingers. How could you trust someone like that?


So yes, this is my issue with the Samara scene spelled out.
With a few small edits: Making the choice to see or not see the upcoming scene at the start of the ally instead, you change the whole context for the kiss and her running back to Gordon.

I still kinda like Samara, she is the MC's rock after all, but if this stuff keeps happening, I can't see her as more then a friend.
Where I totaly agree with you it would of been better to give the choice not to watch before he looks round the cornner since just that glimps tells you their fucking.
I disagree on the secound picture after you choose not to look because if you didn't know they were fucking that veiw is blured enough that they could just be stood together cuddling as boyfriend and girlfreind do we know its her feet but it could just as easy be the top of a black bag in that bin you see.

But that would also leave another problem which is if you don't look before the choice how would you know they were even there let alone fucking you could have him hear them but even that would get complaint's.
Alternatively of corse the first picture could of just shown them stood cuddling and not show fucking unless you choose to watch
But surely then the MC would just think they are cuddling and interupt them before they fuck?
meaning no choice to watch and as I said many may hate it but some will like that option.

As to the Kiss comment yeh girls are like that some can switch mental gears instantly others wouldn't even think anything other than they were just being friendly to start with,
I have seen and experienced girls do both first hand and thats even after being well and truely friendzoned and if they think it imbarreses you thats a f-kin bonus to em.
And to be honest I'm not sure the jumping into boyfriends hands was anything other than playfullness
 

HornyyPussy

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As someone who is not nearly as much of a follower of Mr Knobb (sorry Mr Knobb) I didn’t know that those two were people from the previous game until I came on here. I have to say that I’d much rather not have this game have anything to do with that game, mostly because I like just having everything be “new” and not knowing that this MC is fucking the rejects of a previous MC.
However, I can completely understand wanting to have a connected “universe” - it’s hot these days - and I’m not that upset about it. My main issues were all the voyeurism shots from the previous release which seem to be mostly gone. Still don’t like Anne or Summer, Ms Honey is hot and needs a lot of lotion spread all over her, and I think the story is going to be interesting. I chafe at the lack of choice but that’s to be expected with a Mr Knobb’s story. Kind of delighted we’ve been able to make the decisions we’ve made. Just need to curtail my impulse to rail against the confinement and go play other games to satisfy that need.
Fairly non-Grumpy for a MrFriendly post :)

Since there where no incest in RTP i'm very happy to see Jensen's niece here :)
 
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KingWeWuz

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Just wanna ask that idiot saying anne and summer won't be main Li is spewing bs right ?
Here's your answer it seems:
I truly hope you guys stick around to see the story unfold as the story is the biggest asset of the games I make.

So what ill do as you asked so nicely... I'll clear up who is who in the zoo taht are currently in the game.

Li's / Gf will be between Tania and Andrea
Harem we've met them in the city, all i can say here
Sidefucks and i guess a bit romantic part to them will be Anne, Summer, Asami.
Straight up sidefucks Honey, Gabi and Charmane.
Samara... let's wait and see seeing as having a boyfriend is a problem to lots of folks, so for now ....?

Hope this helps.
 

MrFriendly

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Fairly non-Grumpy for a MrFriendly post :)

Since there where no incest in RTP i'm very happy to see Jensen's niece here :)
Which one was that? I’m not familiar enough with the story but I would like to avoid her as I don’t want Jensen beating poor pervert Werner to death.

And I can be grumpy if you want, I could rail against the lack of choice in the game. I’ve been spoiled by other games and I do wish I could have more meaningful input into what happens in this one. If I wasn’t familiar with Mr Knobbs and RTP I could see feeling upset that this one doesn’t allow me to really do anything besides be Anne’s little perverted pet.

But this isn’t that type of story, that’s why I stuck with the default name, strapped myself securely into my seat, and am enjoying the ride.
 

Lysergic

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Why do developers enable the quick menu and leave the auto controls in the settings but then don't include the auto feature? It would be so convenient if every dev enabled auto in their game.
 

HornyyPussy

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Which one was that? I’m not familiar enough with the story but I would like to avoid her as I don’t want Jensen beating poor pervert Werner to death.

And I can be grumpy if you want, I could rail against the lack of choice in the game. I’ve been spoiled by other games and I do wish I could have more meaningful input into what happens in this one. If I wasn’t familiar with Mr Knobbs and RTP I could see feeling upset that this one doesn’t allow me to really do anything besides be Anne’s little perverted pet.

But this isn’t that type of story, that’s why I stuck with the default name, strapped myself securely into my seat, and am enjoying the ride.
Andrea, the purple haired actress :) Yeah, keeping it secret from Jensen is probably paramount for a long life....

No, i don't want you to be grumpy, i want you to be who you want to be (damn, that sounded sappy as hell)
 

KingWeWuz

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My problem is that Werner is only going to get Tania because Jensen is not available to her.

Its like having a girlfriend who's fucked your best friend (alot) and would rather of been with your best friend instead of you had he been available. Only its worse because you as the current bf got to experience all the kinky/nasty stuff said best friend did with your girlfriend before you.
I didn't know this going in, I'm pretty disappointed knowing this now. MC felt like a voyeuristic beta so far, now he's never gonna be #1 and will probably always be compared to the alpha they wanted, Jensen.
 

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Andrea, the purple haired actress :) Yeah, keeping it secret from Jensen is probably paramount for a long life....

No, i don't want you to be grumpy, i want you to be who you want to be (damn, that sounded sappy as hell)
So the choice is either the daughter or the girl he fucked and didn’t keep? Why can’t we get the Mr Friendly “I just want to be a hermit” option of none of the above.

And after a shitty year I’m working on just being me and not being an abnormally large asshole. Still an asshole though...
 
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Honestly I didn't even notice the "lack of choices", as personally I think too many games give too many choices which ending up making not only the dev job 10x harder but making the story overly complicated(even more so with pick the flavor of your harem, I can do with "harem route" and "solo route" just fine).

I like the "simplicity" this game has, and it's fun to see where it all goes.
 
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The version on the patch seems to bear no relation to the version of the game. Is there a way to know if it's correct?
 

HornyyPussy

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So the choice is either the daughter or the girl he fucked and didn’t keep? Why can’t we get the Mr Friendly “I just want to be a hermit” option of none of the above.

And after a shitty year I’m working on just being me and not being an abnormally large asshole. Still an asshole though...
Niece, not daughter ;)

And babysteps with the assholeness is the way to go!
 

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As someone who is not nearly as much of a follower of Mr Knobb (sorry Mr Knobb) I didn’t know that those two were people from the previous game until I came on here. I have to say that I’d much rather not have this game have anything to do with that game, mostly because I like just having everything be “new” and not knowing that this MC is fucking the rejects of a previous MC.
However, I can completely understand wanting to have a connected “universe” - it’s hot these days - and I’m not that upset about it. My main issues were all the voyeurism shots from the previous release which seem to be mostly gone. Still don’t like Anne or Summer, Ms Honey is hot and needs a lot of lotion spread all over her, and I think the story is going to be interesting. I chafe at the lack of choice but that’s to be expected with a Mr Knobb’s story. Kind of delighted we’ve been able to make the decisions we’ve made. Just need to curtail my impulse to rail against the confinement and go play other games to satisfy that need.
This is exactly how I'm feeling.
I think this game would of been been better had it a bit more of a separation from RtP.

Overall, I am okay with characters Jensen didn't plow showing up if there is a plot reason for it.
But anyone who Werner has a shot with needs to have some separation from Jensen. If you just get Jensen's castoffs and hand-me-downs why the fuck are we even playing Werner? Seems like we should be playing Jensen again at that point.
Let Werner have his OWN story and his own girls!
 

Heavy Sleeper

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This is exactly how I'm feeling.
I think this game would of been been better had it a bit more of a separation from RtP.

Overall, I am okay with characters Jensen didn't plow showing up if there is a plot reason for it.
But anyone who Werner has a shot with needs to have some separation from Jensen. If you just get Jensen's castoffs and hand-me-downs why the fuck are we even playing Werner? Seems like we should be playing Jensen again at that point.
Let Werner have his OWN story and his own girls!
isn't one girl though? I haven't played RtP, but the cast is big and so far the only connection I've read is the cameo of him in one scene and 1(optimal gf) from the last game. Being the cast as big as it is, I do feel like Werner does have his "own girls".
 

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I truly hope you guys stick around to see the story unfold as the story is the biggest asset of the games I make.

So what ill do as you asked so nicely... I'll clear up who is who in the zoo taht are currently in the game.

Li's / Gf will be between Tania and Andrea
Harem we've met them in the city, all i can say here
Sidefucks and i guess a bit romantic part to them will be Anne, Summer, Asami.
Straight up sidefucks Honey, Gabi and Charmane.
Samara... let's wait and see seeing as having a boyfriend is a problem to lots of folks, so for now ....?

Hope this helps.
Thanks for the clear up. I firmly believe it would've been much more frustrating for people being kept in the dark, then getting a nasty surprise towards to the end when things doesn't go the way they'd expect. At least this way, those who aren't interested anymore can leave, and eventually the air's going to clear up around the game regarding this issue. I for one amongst those who won't stick around, although my decision comes because the direction and style of the writing, given the comments you gave so far. Whether you read them or not, is up to you of course, but instead of just blurting it out that "yo, this shit is wack", I like to explain such reasons detailed (not in every case of course, but for example here I do think I should).

One of the problems I see already is the format you choose. You don't make a TV show, or a movie or a book, with several focus characters in the story, or where the people are only watching the events unfolding. You're making a game, where interaction from the player is an absolute must to progress for the story, other than just clicking. I mentioned it an earlier comment, that the game won't play itself. As for such, you decided to make the game with a singular main character, and from that point, the story should be told from his point of view, events should be witnessed like that, and even the scenes that don't include him should tie in as an important aspect to the story he plays the main role in, be that a scene in the past, present or future. Anything else than that will be seen as a needless scene that only serves for the purpose of derailing the story. To me, the scene where Amara and her bf is screwing is kind of like that, it seems to serve the purpose to show that this is a sex game and expect sex in it, but more importantly, the last scenes at episode two, the conversation between the prostitues is a prime example of this. As of now at least, I don't see a scenario where the point of view of two escorts that only connection was just cut, or that conversation betwen them will become a super important scene which will help the plot in a way that couldn't be done in any other way. The part where Anne called her and told her that their meetings are off is where it should've ended. Honestly, I dropped your previous game entirely around the beginning of part three, because by that point it became way too jumpy and often all over the place with all the unnecessary side scenes that I eventually found myself just clicking through. As I said above, it doesn't fit the format. As of now, I only saw one game that managed to pull showing side scenes here and there without them becoming irrelevant for the plot, and actually helping the players to understand the story better as a whole and giving a better insight. It's something many had tried, but failed with because they missed this aspect to them.

The other problem I have is what seems to be your definition of harem. Having one or two definitive main girls, then a bunch of side pieces that occasionally join on the action, is not a harem. There is of course the old school definition of a harem from 1001 Nights, where the Sultan uses slaves without a choice and shit, which I don't agree with as well. A true harem in my eyes is something where in the center there stands one person, the MC in this case, but with every member of the harem, there's an equal terms of feelings vice versa, as far as how they percieve each other. XY at times jumping in the bed with MC and Taina for example, to be part of the relationship for a short amount of time period isn't one, but if XY and MC has a relationship that mirrors the one he has with Taina for example, as far as how they feel about each other and define their relationship, that's a harem scenario. From the description you gave, it seems that the actual harem will happen between Taina MC and Andrea, if that three way relationship is a possibility.

As a side note, I do think that presenting as an incest one and including harem as well, leaving out the relatives (I don't mind Anne that much, her characters is straight trash, Summer is another case though) from that, is penalty without a goalkeeper kind of chance to miss, but maybe that's just me.

This became much longer than I intented it to be, and of course, you're free to ignore the entireity that I wrote, but at least I gave an actual feedback rather than a "fuck this I'm out" type of comment.
 

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The other problem I have is what seems to be your definition of harem. Having one or two definitive main girls, then a bunch of side pieces that occasionally join on the action, is not a harem. There is of course the old school definition of a harem from 1001 Nights, where the Sultan uses slaves without a choice and shit, which I don't agree with as well. A true harem in my eyes is something where in the center there stands one person, the MC in this case, but with every member of the harem, there's an equal terms of feelings vice versa, as far as how they percieve each other. XY at times jumping in the bed with MC and Taina for example, to be part of the relationship for a short amount of time period isn't one, but if XY and MC has a relationship that mirrors the one he has with Taina for example, as far as how they feel about each other and define their relationship, that's a harem scenario. From the description you gave, it seems that the actual harem will happen between Taina MC and Andrea, if that three way relationship is a possibility.

As a side note, I do think that presenting as an incest one and including harem as well, leaving out the relatives (I don't mind Anne that much, her characters is straight trash, Summer is another case though) from that, is penalty without a goalkeeper kind of chance to miss, but maybe that's just me.
Nice to see another one showing why he doesnt like something or why something makes a game not interesting for him and actually explaining in detail why that is.

Sadly, you misinterpreted MrKnobb's description of the actual harem-members. Tania and Andrea are the two people he will be either with as GF. There are more girls that will be in his harem and from what I know it will be like you defined the harem you think is "right". Not just a "I wanna fuck you now, come in bed with me and my gf" (did I interpret you right in that regard? feel free to correct me if I missunderstood)

I will try a bad comparsion:

I can't really compare this game with WVM as they work on very different bases (as far as I know in WVM you CAN get almost every girl sooner or later which is not true for AE), but Tania and Andrea are like the Main-GF of WVM's MC in regard to the GF-status. (They are not like said Main-GF the driving factor for getting an harem, but they will accept it) and the other girls that will join MC's harem will/can receive equal love and care. Its a very bad comparsion in my eye and I take it only to try to explain how the GF and Harem gonna coexist. at least as far as I know of the overall story behind AE and can interpret it.. Feel free to believe me or not.

And after the GF and Harem Girls, there are these "side-pieces" that will geht action but not join the harem for different reasons.

As for your side note:
Initally I wanted to clarify some things, but even that would be too much of a spoiler at the moment. I can just say, if you stuck around you would get your answer if you are right or not with that. And even that could be seen as a indirect spoiler now ;) perhaps take another look in a few months and see for yourself.
 
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