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Quite right, many are waiting.
L&P has laid the foundation for a vast and exciting story. One sadness is that without a team of developers, the development of the game will not only be delayed in time, but will certainly lose in the quality of content and completeness of disclosure of potentially interesting events. One person is physically unable to cope with such a volume of work.
A little higher, the guys discussed the plot associated with the role of Patricia. We can bring up a variety of subjects for discussion regarding various fetishes. But the understanding that the time when we will become witnesses of these events is so far from today, greatly saddens many of us.
After all, we come here in order to receive positive emotions, but a long wait creates an extremely negative background. Here is the dilemma.
- Aug 23, 2020
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That's why I'm worried that the only outcome for this game is that it will be abandoned. This five month wait is bad enough, but the real problem is that this five month wait portends disaster in the future. I fear that one day L&P is going to start work on a new update and it's just going to be too big, too complicated, too overwhelming, and he'll walk away from the game. This update grew to 1,000 renders, but what happens when an update grows to 1,200 or 1,500, or 2,000 renders? What happens when L&P anticipates needing 1,000 renders, only to realize that he needs 50% more renders, and months more of work to complete an update?Quite right, many are waiting.
L&P has laid the foundation for a vast and exciting story. One sadness is that without a team of developers, the development of the game will not only be delayed in time, but will certainly lose in the quality of content and completeness of disclosure of potentially interesting events. One person is physically unable to cope with such a volume of work.
At some point the game is going to become a boondoggle. There will be too many storylines, needing too many renders, all requiring too much time, for an update that will advance the game too little to justify all of the investment. This is exactly the point of diminishing returns I've been screaming about for months.
This is why I've become so vocal in my frustration. It isn't just that this update is taking too long, the real problem is that it's only going to get worse. Without significant changes to the development process, this game won't survive to 2024.
- Sep 23, 2020
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Agree with you. The thing going completely off track is the number of renders. Each successive day is getting bigger than the previous one. His pace has been more or less the same from the Start till now. This day is already 1463 renders with the next release. Plus the Sam update is expected around 800 again taking it to 2000+ renders in one day. Day 17,18,19 alone are more than 50% of the game.
From what I think other than PD day 15 everyday will follow this pattern. And once the cheating aspect starts the days are going to get even bigger
If we tell him this his answer will be that some days are just busier than the others and that's end of argument. He does not realize that since days are getting so big he needs help to deliver them. 5-6 renders per day will never be able to finish this game.
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Couple of things here are worth unpacking a bit more:
The tortured logic L&P employs to justify this self-congratulatory exercise is actually, and somewhat ironically, a masturbatory excess and not much more.
I believe you are correct in using the word "when" rather than if. However, he doesn't "realize he needs 50% more renders" - he just makes a bunch more renders and then decides they are needed because, well, he wanted them, and they're here, and obviously he wouldn't have made them if they weren't needed, cuz that would be mad loco en la cabeza, so the fact that they exist must mean they are needed. So having made them they are now needed. Because no one would invest so much time on things that are not needed.
The tortured logic L&P employs to justify this self-congratulatory exercise is actually, and somewhat ironically, a masturbatory excess and not much more.
Uh, breaking news everyone: we're already there. If this update blowing up to more than double its planned render count wasn't enough evidence, the fact that there is something called a "Dylan/Emma" coming up should be all the confirmation we need.
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- We can't even guess at how many renders the next update will take. It could be 800, but it could be 1,200. I could also see him pulling an audible and splitting it up if he feels the Sam event + Natalie + Dylan/Ellie will be too big and require too long to develop. We're in uncharted waters at this point.
- You're 100% right about the days getting longer once the cheating begins. IF we ever get that far, the number of renders required in the buildup for the cheating, and then the sex itself, is going to explode the total number of renders required. It could be that 1,000 renders because the average. But I also imagine that the complexity of the renders is going to grow as well.
- There's always an excuse, he isn't seeing the same problems we are. I can't help but think that L&P is too close to the game to see the problems. He's brushed aside all of our concerns and recommendations. He probably does think we just want to get faster updates because we're impatient. And yeah, the idea that days with fewer events will be developed more quickly is highly questionable: until he can prove that he can stick to a plan I have no confidence that he won't just pad days with few events with extra renders.
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I'm holding out until I play this update before I declare that the game is a boondoggle. I'm really trying hard not to prejudge this update because that feels really crappy to both L&P and to the other posters here who are less disgruntled than I am. I will admit that I can't really envision a scenario where I do a 180 on this update and think the five month wait was justified; but I do want to try my best to be fair.
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Does anyone know why L&P doesn't seek external help? If it's because of privacy concerns, he can definitely get an NDA signed. There are much bigger and more confidential projects going on in which external help is sought. So, what really is the problem here?
I don't think money is a problem as you can find freelancers for really cheap nowadays. And since external help will speed up the development, which will lead to more releases and more patreons, it seems like a logical investment.
So I'm not really able to figure out why he doesn't take external help.
I don't think money is a problem as you can find freelancers for really cheap nowadays. And since external help will speed up the development, which will lead to more releases and more patreons, it seems like a logical investment.
So I'm not really able to figure out why he doesn't take external help.
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This has been covered extensively here. In short, L&P's stated reason is this: He's "open" to the idea but the standards by which he would measure anyone are impossibly high. L&P is convinced that the time it would take to either train the person and/or to tweak the images to his standards would negate any benefits. Basically, L&P wants full control over the game's development and he hasn't figured out a way to outsource anything. It's a complete dead end at this point to even suggest outside help, he isn't interested.
very ironic !! Do you think that all the fans of the game have the time and the. opportunity to enter the forum every day and be informed about its progress;
- Oct 13, 2019
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I understand you but if you made the effort to read a few pages of the thread, you would see that there is progress info almost every 2-3 pages.
- Apr 21, 2020
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Let me disagree with you. I spoke with L&P and I dare say that he is interested in helping. But the fact is that those willing to help are really not qualified enough.
The question of keeping the script secret, as far as I was able to understand, is in second place for him. First, the task is to find competent help and then they will find ways to solve the issue of secrecy.
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I'm pretty sure some of these people are excellent at what they do, as they've been doing it for longer than L&P. I'm not undermining L&P but there's a lot of talent out there if you know how to look for it.
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Without a doubt, there are many talents! But, as far as I understand, L&P is not looking for them, I know for sure that he is considering candidates who have contacted him.
So, of those who turned to him, there are no qualified enough yet.
And with all due respect to the visitors of this forum, I cannot agree with the opinion that L&P should definitely use the farm for rendering.
He considered this option, but the quality that the farm gives out does not satisfy him.
So we have no choice but to hope that someone skilled enough will turn to L&P to help them.
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I think the only thing that will satisfy L&P finding or looking for help is an actual clone of himself. Then he would meet his own qualification... Maybe...
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Potamu that moron .. thinks that he will have time, but in fact the drawdown is delayed time ((((