Vladalius

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Time to go check to see if it is updated on steam ;)

EDIT: As of 20:18 EST it is not :'(

SaliaCoel , when will a steam update be pushed?
It will probably still take some time. It will only release on Steam when the update is completely finished. What you get on Patreon is basically access to an unstable build. Playable, but always with some bugs. Once these are fixed it will release on Steam. Just try to be patient.
 
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triplebrc

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Tempted to throw some money at this again, but honestly the fact that there is still no gallery or replay for the scenes is incredibly annoying. Not having something like that is a cardinal sin for any 18+ game in my book, especially if it has been around for years and there are different encounters with each character that can't all be naturally repeated. This one made it worse by not even allowing us an easy way to access them via saves that were created for that purpose.

Generally I gotta say that I am somewhat more interested in the other games. Having started and stopped this one so many times kinda made it lose some of its appeal given that there was still not that much new stuff to do in the last one.
 

triplebrc

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From what you just said it sound like you've never fully played the game or haven't played it in a long time.. You can totally repeat the absolute majority the scenes, the game is on sandbox mode.. you can repeat pretty much anything just by walking to certain places or talking to people around. Also now you can be enslaved by multiple girls.. (Im not sure if you are aware but Salia has changed that, you dont need to pic one mistress only as it used to be before) and on top of that there is also the quickmatch mode on the menu that lets you fight with the girls right away. (It would be cool to have that worked on tho, adding options for them to finish you off and stuff)
You can repeat the enslavement scenes yes, these are far from all of them though. Quite a few scenes can't be repeated at all, some can be but it is not easy or quick to do so, which happened to be some of the more interesting ones since they are longer and have some actual plot behind it rather than the mindless repetition of small animations.
Sandbox mode is a poor substitute for a proper recollection room, for several reasons. It takes time to move around in a sandbox, you can easily forget where everyone is after you haven't played for a while, the repeatable scenes are not all scenes, and without a recollection room you have a hard time telling how many more scenes are left to find. Quickmatch lets you only see the fight animations, which is nice, but hardly a full experience.

Dont get me wrong, I'm not opposed to the gallery idea, I think it could be nice too.. but I'm just really trying to understand why that's such a big deal for you.. since pretty much everything in this game is repeatable (with the exception of very few scenes)
Because as I said, not everything is repeatable, some of the more interesting scenes are not. Adding to that is the fact that it is super easy, so there is no reason to not include one aside from laziness, as this dev specifically already has included a refight option, but not a rewatch or replay one. Let's be honest here for a minute, this game, like 95% of all games in the genre, are objectively terrible when it comes to the pure quality of pretty much everything, from gameplay to graphics over story all the way to world building, a game like this would make every top 10 worst games list if it were measured against normal games. Basically no one would even play it without the 18+ content in it, this is what makes it good, as it delivers something most games don't, so not making that easily available in its entirety for a rewatch after you played through it simply rubs me the wrong way, as I feel like this should be something basic, and most games do indeed have this.

Also I definitely can't agree with this.. Like really, how can you say that especially after we got the bowsette and skullgirls enslavment update??? That was sooo much new content dude.. I spent hours and hours on it... It makes me think that you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about... either that or you are just one of those people who are just impossible to please... =p
You know how many hours I spend on a few lewd scenes? A few minutes, then I usually move on, maybe I come back to it once or twice. Nice for you that it keeps you happy for dozens of hours, you are easy to please then. Not like I was intentionally shitting on the game as a whole either, aside from the lack of a recollection room, though it is undeniable that starting anew in this game means doing the same few things in the same small area for the 10th time, and that is simply something people can deem tiresome, which is a known problem for games that stay in early access for long.
 

neocube117

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Time to go check to see if it is updated on steam ;)

EDIT: As of 20:18 EST it is not :'(

SaliaCoel , when will a steam update be pushed?
My guess since think she mentioned it on one of the steam discussions a few days or a week from the patron release think it’s to work out the bugs and what not.
 

SaliaCoel

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Because as I said, not everything is repeatable, some of the more interesting scenes are not. Adding to that is the fact that it is super easy, so there is no reason to not include one aside from laziness, as this dev specifically already has included a refight option, but not a rewatch or replay one.

The game itself doesn't look that good, and the animations are only "okay-ish", so a gallery would not be as fun.

There is for example this NPC, she offers you to you kiss her ass for reputation. And then if you agree she takes a selfie and blackmails you to share the picture if you don't give her 100 coins. It's actually just 2 poses and and only 1 single kiss animation.

A replay of this scene in a gallery would hardly make sense. You would see one character kissing another characters ass.

The fun lies in the fact that you permanently lose your reputation. You're being tricked. The girl lied to you. You've been humiliated.
And now you've lost reputation and gold, permanently, on your only safe file.

And the game is full of situations like this. I want to put the player in REALLY desperate situations.
How else could I cause a "fear-boner"?


You said:
"It's super easy " to make a gallery.

Well... It's not "complicated". But the amount of work is quite high, as there are over 4000 animations.
That's a good month of work.

And then the result wouldn't be "that" great. I would need a serious 2-3 months to polish it.
And I have players, excited and waiting to spend some time with their favourite NPC. An update that only adds a gallery would be a disappointment.

Also I think the fact that every other game has a gallery doesn't mean that my game desperately needs one. What my game really needs is clear from all the negative steam reviews. Most of them are about the graphics and the models. (Which will improve in FemU2, but thats another topic)

Let's be honest here for a minute, this game, like 95% of all games in the genre, are objectively terrible when it comes to the pure quality of pretty much everything, from gameplay to graphics over story all the way to world building, a game like this would make every top 10 worst games list if it were measured against normal games.
PS:
The fact that you compare this game to what you call a "normal game" is hilarious.

Please go to Pornhub, open any porn and write in the comments:
"This video sucks, I watched Avengers Endgame from Marvel and that's way better!"

I think you should understand that porn-game-devs are not a 40 + people development teams.
Most of them (like me) have started game swith almost zero budget.
I for example am building things from cheap assets as best I can, and even like that I have to spend every penny and pretty much all my free time on the development.

Besides for (non-hentai) indie-game standards this game is awesome.
 
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SaliaCoel

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One more reason why these games suck in quality:

Simply lack of funds
People simply don't want pay for porn games.

The "average customer" who has money rather spends 110$ on a 2400.000 Gem package on their smartphone game, to open 20 Diamond-Chests which contain 0.1% chance for some legendary item, where the money goes into some billionaires pocket..

..while also seeing the 5$ on a hentai game as a "waste of money", where the developer is struggling to pay the next rent.

I'm not complaining, these are just marketing facts.

Luckily I am very blessed to have ~20 VIP-Patrons that fund 70% of the game. These are like the "main pillars" of this project.

If like... 10 of those would have stopped pledging a year ago for example, because... corona or something, then the game as you see it right now would not be here, I could have been forced to cancel this project.

Thanks to these few VIP-Patrons that this game is how it is.
 

MrDreamZz

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One more reason why these games suck in quality:

Simply lack of funds
People simply don't want pay for porn games.

The "average customer" who has money rather spends 110$ on a 2400.000 Gem package on their smartphone game, to open 20 Diamond-Chests which contain 0.1% chance for some legendary item, where the money goes into some billionaires pocket..

..while also seeing the 5$ on a hentai game as a "waste of money", where the developer is struggling to pay the next rent.

I'm not complaining, these are just marketing facts.

Luckily I am very blessed to have ~20 VIP-Patrons that fund 70% of the game. These are like the "main pillars" of this project.

If like... 10 of those would have stopped pledging a year ago for example, because... corona or something, then the game as you see it right now would not be here, I could have been forced to cancel this project.

Thanks to these few VIP-Patrons that this game is how it is.
And therefore thank u for you work. I can't pay 5$ right now, becouse i am from poor country. But sometime i do this :)
 

nice666

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Jun 23, 2020
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One more reason why these games suck in quality:

Simply lack of funds
People simply don't want pay for porn games.

The "average customer" who has money rather spends 110$ on a 2400.000 Gem package on their smartphone game, to open 20 Diamond-Chests which contain 0.1% chance for some legendary item, where the money goes into some billionaires pocket..

..while also seeing the 5$ on a hentai game as a "waste of money", where the developer is struggling to pay the next rent.

I'm not complaining, these are just marketing facts.

Luckily I am very blessed to have ~20 VIP-Patrons that fund 70% of the game. These are like the "main pillars" of this project.

If like... 10 of those would have stopped pledging a year ago for example, because... corona or something, then the game as you see it right now would not be here, I could have been forced to cancel this project.

Thanks to these few VIP-Patrons that this game is how it is.
is it possible to have an unlocked battle girl mode where we dont have to collect coins everytime we start the game?Just asking,no bad intent here xD
 

Bacace124

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Ms. Viola content soon? YES! I swear all the teachers have such big potential for content so I am glad to see that it's happening :)
 

Gigalomaniac

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SaliaCoel
1.- THIS I THINK TO BE TRUE.
There are a lot of porn games out there being propperly funded. In some cases absurdly funded. The problem is not graphics nor mechanics or story since I have seen worse with more income than this game. The problem is the thematic. Not only is femdom public scarce but also sparse- in what we seek or like. To make things worse being into femdom is the kind of shit you want to keep a secret.
2.- THIS I THINK MIGHT BE TRUE.
I think most of us aren't sissies or sexual slaves, just normal dudes who want to jerk off feeling free of responsabilities and decission making situation. We just get very tired of not only having to lead every sexual intercourse but also being evaluated while at It. At least that's how I got into It- and then the perversion grew in size and colors. *1
With this in mind- being actually normal dudes, I think femdom can get sick very fast and very easily. So even if your product is great the potential client might refuse to pay due to an after-nut guilt or regret.
3.- THIS I THINK COULD BE THE SOLUTION.
Even tho your content is femdom focused I think It would be wise to adapt it to normal guys. Make sure they are not gonna feel less of a man or too dirty after the nut. In the end the aftertaste is the most important part if you want to attract supporters. It's been a while since I played this game but I do not recall any scene in which the MC could deliver some payback. If there is no way this could fit the narrative with the principal girls maybe add one or two characters that are even more sub than the MC. Idk, I think it would be interesting to steam off against others from time to time.
Three off the top of my head: a nympho skinny flatchested futa who is down for anything- something like the girl in this hentai: "Asa kara Zusshiri Milk Pot", a short girl, thin but decent sized boobs and ass, with shaven hair-dontask- who really likes to be used as you are by the other girls; and the typical awkward thick brunette, curvy and stacked, with paste glasses who can be taken advantage off.

With any of those the game gets some balance, gains some genre reach and procures self-esteem restoration- might not be the right wording but i dont know how to express it better, bear with me on this one.


*** I hope no one feels offended. I know many will disagree. I just think you cannot feel good as a man or even as an adult after nutting by watching your character being treated like a baby, anal raped or used as a toilet. I strongly believe that for this kind of fiction It is best to procure a propper way out. Saving the game after any of that knowing next time will be even more humilliating somehow tares down.


pd. I know C++ and Python. Mostly for microcontrollers, 3d motion and vision but I also did basic algorithm/data structure. Is any of that close to your projects? Could I learn in my free time to create content in your games? I read in some post of yours that mods could be added. I would very much like to make those three characters xDDDDD




1* So in porn I almost exclusively consume femdom but I would never engage in some of that myself. I was wondering if that's the case for any of you. Like chastity or balls-pain. I watch it and like it but there's no fucking way I would allow It on me.
TL;DR stop making your game and start being appealing to the mainstream crowd of "normal people"...you know, not those degenerates you call your supporters.
 

Aseratrix

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Dec 16, 2019
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1.- THIS I THINK TO BE TRUE.
There are a lot of porn games out there being propperly funded. In some cases absurdly funded. The problem is not graphics nor mechanics or story since I have seen worse with more income than this game. The problem is the thematic. Not only is femdom public scarce but also sparse- in what we seek or like. To make things worse being into femdom is the kind of shit you want to keep a secret.
2.- THIS I THINK MIGHT BE TRUE.
I think most of us aren't sissies or sexual slaves, just normal dudes who want to jerk off feeling free of responsabilities and decission making situation. We just get very tired of not only having to lead every sexual intercourse but also being evaluated while at It. At least that's how I got into It- and then the perversion grew in size and colors. *1
With this in mind- being actually normal dudes, I think femdom can get sick very fast and very easily. So even if your product is great the potential client might refuse to pay due to an after-nut guilt or regret.
3.- THIS I THINK COULD BE THE SOLUTION.
Even tho your content is femdom focused I think It would be wise to adapt it to normal guys. Make sure they are not gonna feel less of a man or too dirty after the nut. In the end the aftertaste is the most important part if you want to attract supporters. It's been a while since I played this game but I do not recall any scene in which the MC could deliver some payback. If there is no way this could fit the narrative with the principal girls maybe add one or two characters that are even more sub than the MC. Idk, I think it would be interesting to steam off against others from time to time.
Three off the top of my head: a nympho skinny flatchested futa who is down for anything- something like the girl in this hentai: "Asa kara Zusshiri Milk Pot", a short girl, thin but decent sized boobs and ass, with shaven hair-dontask- who really likes to be used as you are by the other girls; and the typical awkward thick brunette, curvy and stacked, with paste glasses who can be taken advantage off.

With any of those the game gets some balance, gains some genre reach and procures self-esteem restoration- might not be the right wording but i dont know how to express it better, bear with me on this one.


*** I hope no one feels offended. I know many will disagree. I just think you cannot feel good as a man or even as an adult after nutting by watching your character being treated like a baby, anal raped or used as a toilet. I strongly believe that for this kind of fiction It is best to procure a propper way out. Saving the game after any of that knowing next time will be even more humilliating somehow tares down.


pd. I know C++ and Python. Mostly for microcontrollers, 3d motion and vision but I also did basic algorithm/data structure. Is any of that close to your projects? Could I learn in my free time to create content in your games? I read in some post of yours that mods could be added. I would very much like to make those three characters xDDDDD




1* So in porn I almost exclusively consume femdom but I would never engage in some of that myself. I was wondering if that's the case for any of you. Like chastity or balls-pain. I watch it and like it but there's no fucking way I would allow It on me.
So, basically take away the game from those into femdom to make it more palatable for you normies with adding stuff for your taste...I really hope that doesn't happen with every game on this site. There are very few games with unabashed femdom content like this one, so I really, really hope the dev won't cave in to the likes of you, it would completely kill the game for those of us who like it so far.

How much you are embarrassed by what you consume on an adult site is your problem, to then use that, project it on everyone else, and use it as a rationale to try and push the dev in the direction of mainstream taste is a really nasty tactic for which I hope the dev doesn't fall. It is not at all hard to deduce what kinds of games sell better, if that was the goal of the dev, to make money on exploiting the most lucrative porn genres, she would have done so. I believe the best games are those made based on the dev's own passions, even if its only recognized as such in the targeted niche.

You say your intention is not to offend, but what you did here contains a great deal of baseless, negative assumptions, thinly veiled kinkshaming. I feel no shame for liking this or similar games, and have no guilt issues after enjoying it, and I don't think I am alone. I adore this game specifically for what you complain about. There are hundreds of games catering for individuals not into more extreme content [even in this game many of that is optional], there is no reason outside of monetary gain to make all games to please those who struggle with enjoying femdom. And your assumption about how shameful and "sick" femdom is, its not as universally shared as you seem to think. Many of us like it as "sick" as possible. Deal with that!
 
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