RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.8.0] [Chyos]

[Wolf Larsen]

Your saying is not the fact... Not only Tia, you could see the other girls who are not sluts will be loyal to you if you don't corrupt them. Kate for instance, Kate will even not allow Rick to touch her butt secritively if you don't corrupt her.

Man, we're going in circles here, I already addressed that in my first response to you, right?

You did not see me question the Dasan's route for instance.

Or any of the NTR routes where the MC fails

In Penny's case, to achieve this you have to leave her at Lucius's mercy (similar to both situations with Frisha)
Or don't tell her about Henry's bs.

The MC is a loser, he puts his girls in harm's way

The orc scenario you mentioned fits the bill.

My problem in this particular situation is because of the simple fact that the MC is too tired to have sex with Tia.
That's it, that's the only information I got.
This is enough to make Tia want to cheat on him?
And to revert this I have to stop her giggling with Dasan?

In the non-ntr universe that mrttao mentioned, the MC never fails. The girls do not have any interest in cheating on him because he doesn't let them get violated by orcs, douchebags, while fucking demons, and the like. Not because he's too tired to have sex while in a relationship with them.

Only denying sex is enough to trigger her wanting to commit NTR here, just that, not getting her violated by orcs or whatever.

You keep bringing up Kate.

Kate & Rick only happens if you encourage Rick to have a relationship with her.

If Kate is only in a relationship with the MC, meaning if you didn't encourage Rick and told Thomas to fuck off, does she cheat on the MC with high corruption?

No. Kate is a playable character even, you decide her choices during the minigame. With high corruption, you can make her motivated to be the loyal bitch to the MC no matter what.

Corruption = unavoidable to unlock content
So we should raise with fear of possible NTR and girls not giving a fuck about the MC anymore?

pls no

 

[mercytea]

Man, we're going in circles here, I already addressed that in my first response to you, right?



Only denying sex is enough to trigger her wanting to commit NTR here, just that, not getting her violated by orcs or whatever.

You keep bringing up Kate.

Kate & Rick only happens if you encourage Rick to have a relationship with her.

If Kate is only in a relationship with the MC, meaning if you didn't encourage Rick and told Thomas to fuck off, does she cheat on the MC with high corruption?

No. Kate is a playable character even, you decide her choices during the minigame. With high corruption, you can make her motivated to be the loyal bitch to the MC no matter what.

Corruption = unavoidable to unlock content
So we should raise with fear of possible NTR and girls not giving a fuck about the MC anymore?

pls no

In my playthrough I encouraged Rick to chase after Kate but I still make Kate to be my girlfriend first. Then I talk to Rick about Kate being my girlfriend already. That's his problem he still want to touch Kate's butt without my knowledge. Even you play the serving game of Kate doesn't mean Kate will allow others touch her butt if you don't corrupt her. You're the one theorize on the corruption of this game without evidence.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

In my playthrough I encouraged Rick to chase after Kate but

Then I talk to Rick about Kate being my girlfriend already.

lol what, is your mc bipolar?

You're right though, I've been defending this game saying that "don't worry about corruption guys, do that to unlock scenes as is required, the girl still loves you, it doesn't mean they will want to cheat on you"

If this Tia bonus scene is as bad as I'm speculating, the whole thing about "corruption doesn't deny the love they feel for the MC" is wrong.

And thus we have a game with a horrible, crap mechanic.

Unless you're a sucker for NTR, of course.

Edit: Of course, I'm not ignoring the fact that NTR off switch exists and the game should be praised for that.
But some people play with NTR on, because the premise is the punishing aspect and the game even tells you that's the way to play "as intended".
If people are getting punished to do what is necessary to unlock scenes, so yeah... crap

 

[mercytea]

lol what, is your mc bipolar?

You're right though, I've been defending this game saying that "don't worry about corruption guys, do that to unlock scenes as is required, the girl still loves you, it doesn't mean they will want to cheat on you"

If this Tia bonus scene is as bad as I'm speculating, the whole thing about "corruption doesn't deny the love they feel for the MC" is wrong.

And thus we have a game with a horrible, crap mechanic.

Unless you're a sucker for NTR, of course.

Really? You can only humiliate me when you can't talk with facts. I just want to play fair when I earn Kate's love because I want to try if there's other possibility in this game. Pathetic!

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Really? You can only humiliate me when you can't talk with facts. I just want to play fair when I earn Kate's love because I want to try if there's other possibility in this game. Pathetic!

I'm so confused. I will just back away, really slowly...

 

[mrttao]

I'm so confused. I will just back away, really slowly...

I believe I understand what he is saying so I will translate

1. He is saying that told rick to pursue kate not because he wanted rick to get her. but because he wanted to roleplay a friend of rick going "may the best man win" and then do his best to be the one who wins. When he won, he told rick to back off because he does not want rick to touch his girl.

2. He is offended that you said his MC is bipolar.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

I believe I understand what he is saying so I will translate

1. He is saying that told rick to pursue kate not because he wanted rick to get her. but because he wanted to roleplay a friend of rick going "may the best man win" and then do his best to be the one who wins. When he won, he told rick to back off because he does not want rick to touch his girl.

2. He is offended that you said his MC is bipolar.

Oh sorry, I just thought it was a weird roleplaying...

I mean, the whole situation is triggered because of a "bad choice" (NTR choice: telling another man to pursue your girl) earlier. So I don't know how to feel about that. Maybe it shouldn't be like this.

 

[mrttao]

Oh sorry, I just thought it was a weird roleplaying...

I mean, the whole situation is triggered because of a "bad choice" (NTR choice: telling another man to pursue your girl) earlier. So I don't know how to feel about that. Maybe it shouldn't be like this.

Yea. It is a bit of a clash between meta thinking and his roleplaying style.
I think his roleplaying can be counted as a form of emergent game-play where he manages to reproduce a fairly realistic scenario using tools that were clearly meant to be switches of "NTR YES/NO" from a meta perspective, but work for what he used them for.

Maybe even one worth formalizing by giving it a proper clear choice (eg: "encourage him to pursue her and step back" vs "encourage him as a rival and may the best man win")

Although thinking about it. I feel it is only realistic in the sense of too many people read too much fiction and try to reenact it in real life even though it shouldn't work. When realistically it would be more of "all is fair in love and war"

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Yea. It is a bit of a clash between meta thinking and his roleplaying style.
I think his roleplaying can be counted as a form of emergent game-play where he manages to reproduce a fairly realistic scenario using tools that were clearly meant to be switches of "NTR YES/NO" from a meta perspective, but work for what he used them for.

Maybe even one worth formalizing by giving it a proper clear choice (eg: "encourage him to pursue her and step back" vs "encourage him as a rival and may the best man win")

Although thinking about it. I feel it is only realistic in the sense of too many people read too much fiction and try to reenact it in real life even though it shouldn't work. When realistically it would be more of "all is fair in love and war"

Welp, now he's blocked from raising Kate's corruption unless he wants to get cucked.

Maybe it shouldn't be like this, since the dev did include an option to tell Rick to never touch Kate again.


Edit: But then again, this never happens in the universe that the MC never encouraged Rick and Kate to be intimate. Kate, high or low corruption, doesn't seem to give a fuck about Rick there, some people even feel guilty about it.
So yeah, I don't know how to feel about it

Edit²: Encouraging a guy to fuck a girl you also like and she's getting closer to him is a bit different from neglecting sex with your already girlfriend

 

[mercytea]

Welp, now he's blocked from raising Kate's corruption unless he wants to get cucked.

Maybe it shouldn't be like this, since the dev did include an option to tell Rick to never touch Kate again.

Edit: But then again, this never happens in the universe that the MC never encouraged Rick and Kate to be intimate. Kate, high or low corruption, doesn't seem to give a fuck about Rick there, some people even feel guilty about it.
So yeah, I don't know how to feel about it

Soldiers still touch Kate's butt after you corrupt Kate... Is you saying based on your imagination now?

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Soldiers still touch Kate's butt after you corrupt Kate... Is you saying based on your imagination now?

???

They grope her against her will no matter the corruption. And the MC rescues her.

My Kate is high corruption dude... there are options for her to do stuff with the soldiers, but you can choose to not do that. So Kate is "I'm loyal to the MC".

 

[mercytea]

???

They grope her against her will no matter the corruption. And the MC rescues her.

My Kate is high corruption dude... there are options for her to do stuff with the soldiers, but you can choose to not do that. So Kate is "I'm loyal to the MC".

Your knowing is wrong... If you corrupt Kate, she would accept soldiers touch her butt... There is no option in this scene.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

If you don't corrupt her, there isn't any option existed. Maybe you just want a game could make decisions from any girls' perspective...

Erhm... no. High corruption with Kate doesn't mean her cheating on the MC or her wanting to, so the MC has to do something about it.

This is exactly what happens with Mira however, with no corruption.
If you hurt her feelings really bad.
If something like that is with Tia, then it's better.

Edit: Fake news! She's wearing the slutty outfit like in the NTR route, your MC made her like this.
High corruption, no NTR choices with Kate = loyal bitch

 

[mercytea]

Erhm... no. High corruption with Kate doesn't mean her cheating on the MC or her wanting to, so the MC has to do something about it.

This is exactly what happens with Mira however, with no corruption.
If you hurt her feelings really bad.
If something like that is with Tia, then it's better.

Yeah... I edited my post. You're knowing is wrong. We don't have options in some scenario.

 

[lol360]

GAME keep crashing every 5 mins

 

[mrttao]

Your knowing is wrong... If you corrupt Kate, she would accept soldiers touch her butt... There is no option in this scene.
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This is not just because you corrupted her, but after corrupting her you went and made her a slut for all men.
you specifically chose to make her that way. And via active choices not something as minor as trying to skip a long sex scene and thus "neglecting" her

 

[zARRR]

Good lord what is happening here, and no it‘s not an aurora borealis

 

[zARRR]

I asked him about these thoughts, showed him the conversation here, dont know if he is going to answer, but I hope so.

Tell us if he responds Yotetar, so our worries can disappear like clouds during a tornado

 

[zARRR]

GAME keep crashing every 5 mins

Give us other hints, like are you playing compressed, a mod, on android…

 

[lol360]

Give us other hints, like are you playing compressed, a mod, on android…

the normal one on pc..previous version was running well..this version crashes all the time.