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Not bad.. Same usual spelling issues but overall I like the M.H.A. plot parody. Looking forward to more.

Though would wish that you'd gone with day by day rather than week by week, as that would allow for better continuity with the school setting etc.

Also maybe add a home button on the map for content at home with Kate, or for relaxation etc.
 
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Wait the game doesn't include NTR yet the girls will be forced/rape by others and monster.
Idk how you see it but that's NTR
At the start of the game, there is literally a filter for that. While the tags should be updated, you can play the game, i believe, without ever seeing it.

I also like the starting premise of the game, clearly MHA inspired but like the mechanics and systems in place. Early days but the game holds promise, fav character will have to be Jennika and whatever her Genex is seems suspicious AF but looking forward further content with her!
 

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Loving the models so far and the storyline looks fine. Glad to hear that if there is NTR that it'll be able to be toggled on/off. While sandbox is not always my favorite, some games that are designed just aren't the same as a VN. As long as there's an in-game hint/walkthrough system it's generally fine.

Glad to see another Harem? Incest game with a good diversity of model types. Personally I also enjoy Pregnancy or at least the illusion that it might be possible. Curious if that is something that may be possible in the future?

I also saw that Finisterrex plans on implementing Customizable roles/nicknames in the game. Will the LI's also be customizable as to their ages or year of school?

Overall, I'd have to say that the game looks really good for the stage that it's in. The developer also seems to be active, supportive, and professional so far. I'll definitely keep my eye on this game.

Thanks for all your hard work Dev!
 

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Wait the game doesn't include NTR yet the girls will be forced/rape by others and monster.
Idk how you see it but that's NTR
Game has NO NTR

Forced sex choice is about the MC.

Hard Themed scenes is more about NPCs/random girls (who will not be player to love or date), *IF EVER* any of the girl for the player may be subject to that, it will have some options:
- To be stoppable by you or someone
- Happen before you even get to know the girl.
- Some other option preventing the issue.
- Because you specifically wanted to.



Loving the models so far and the storyline looks fine. Glad to hear that if there is NTR that it'll be able to be toggled on/off. While sandbox is not always my favorite, some games that are designed just aren't the same as a VN. As long as there's an in-game hint/walkthrough system it's generally fine.

Glad to see another Harem? Incest game with a good diversity of model types. Personally I also enjoy Pregnancy or at least the illusion that it might be possible. Curious if that is something that may be possible in the future?

I also saw that Finisterrex plans on implementing Customizable roles/nicknames in the game. Will the LI's also be customizable as to their ages or year of school?

Overall, I'd have to say that the game looks really good for the stage that it's in. The developer also seems to be active, supportive, and professional so far. I'll definitely keep my eye on this game.

Thanks for all your hard work Dev!
I'm not sure I'm ever adding NTR officially, since I don't want that TAG on my games. If ever, it will be a patch or a separate download.
The sandbox part will be really "low", as you can see in the demo, you won't be needing to navigate maps, or go search for most events. I'd like to keep it "story driven" but this is not written on stone yet.

Pregnancy is a big yes for me
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. But it will show up later in the game for various reasons.

Age thing, for a patron thing states all must be adult... But yet, they are in school, that's for the user to think... If SENEKO is an adult, then she must have some growing issues.

Thanks for your words, I'm nothing pro, I've just started to learn and do 7 months ago with basically zero knowledge, trying to learn and improve as time goes by!!
 
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If i'm right, NTR is when someone tries to steal "your girl", or when "your girl" cheats on you... Or when the story tries to make the player sad with those issues. In my game, that's not the idea at all. If there's another male in the game, it will have another purpose than "bothering you or your girls".


About hard themed scenes being skipped or hidden:
You won't see that in the game, it won't happen in the side if for some reason you skip it.

If it where to happen, you will have the choice to stop, prevent it. If choose no hard themed scenes, it won't happen. You may miss events, but it won't happen.

Example:

Let's say you are with Lisha, and she is about to get raped when being your girlfriend...Even when it wouldn't be NTR since she's not doing it, but it's happening to her forced by some reason. You will be there to stop it, or prevent it (And you will probably be advised of your choices, specially if you are on easy mode). If your choice is to avoid it, then it won't happen, which may lead into you missing some events (Like the after saving her of the situation or if you decided to let it happen, the "healing process or consequences".)

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
 
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If i'm right, NTR is when someone tries to steal "your girl", or when "your girl" cheats on you...

You won't see that in the game, it won't happen in the side if for some reason you skip it.

If it were to happen, you will have the choice to stop, prevent it. If choose no hard themed scenes, it won't happen. You may miss events, but it won't happen.

Example:

Let's say you are with Lisha, and she is about to get raped when being your girlfriend...Even when it wouldn't be NTR since she's not doing it, but it's happening to her forced by some reason. You will be there to stop it or prevent it (And you will probably be advised of your choices, especially if you are on easy mode). If your choice is to avoid it, then it won't happen, which may lead into you missing some events (Like the after saving her of the situation or if you decided to let it happen, the "healing process or consequences".)

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
I hope this can help a little to avoid any debates or arguments in your games thread moving forward.

According to this website's tag system NTR is this:
  • NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the Main Character.]
Some key things to remember about this are:
1. A Romantic Interest does not mean they are already with the Main Character but that the main character is interested in being romantic with them even if he isn't yet. They may not be the Main Character's girl yet, but if they could be then they are a Romantic Interest.
2. The reason for the Romantic Interest being with someone else doesn't matter if the design was to cause jealousy (or other negative emotions) in either the main character or player. So, if a girl is raped it is still, based on the site tag, NTR.
3. Most players will assume any girl is a Romantic Interest unless you make it very clear they are not. This can be done easily by having the Main Character think to himself that he is not interested in them. A thought I have had about several blind dates in my life.
4. Also, be sure and be clear about if something is Avoidable or Skippable. Avoidable means it never happens if we avoid it. Skippable means the event happens we just don't have to see it. Skippable is worse than something being forced, as it removes the players ability to do anything about it and makes the player still feel the bad emotions because it still happened, and they will see the consequences afterwards.

If I could offer a little advice. Remember that every hour you spend making a sex scene with a girl and someone other than the Main Character you are:
1. Making a scene that most player will not see. Most people who enjoy harem and incest game will select to never see those scenes from the beginning if you give that option. Often your time would be better spend making content that more players will see. Content of the girls with the Main Character.
2. Each scene without the Main Character is also not advancing the relationship between the girl and the Main Character. It may advance the plot, but you can almost always find other ways to advance the plot without resorting to showing other characters having sex.
3. If it is a random girl then many players will skip or avoid it as well. Remember that most players are here to play a game with sex scenes of the Main Character and his girls, not watch sex scene between random people. If people only wanted sex scenes, they would just watch porn. Most players want to see scenes with characters they care about being together in meaningful ways.
4. Lastly, I would advise you to decide the type of game you want to make now, don't leave it up to your players. You will always get players who want different things and the more you try and make every group happy the less you make anyone happy, including yourself. If you add a bunch of rape and NTR and sharing, then the harem lovers will leave the game. If you only add a little bit of NTR or sharing or other people having sex besides the Main Character, then NTR players will always demand more and will accuse you of misleading them by pretending to make a game for them when you don't want to.

Everything above was just to, hopefully, add some clarity to some player's thoughts and to help you see some things from other points of view. It is just advice, and you are free to take it or not. Make a game you will enjoy making, a game you would enjoy playing. You will always get people wanting other things from you, but you should make the game you want to make. Players will come and go, they will make demands, but you are the one who has to spend hours and days and weeks making the game. You are the one who has to look back at it as something you are happy to make. So, while it is good to listen to your players wants and take them in, they must come second to the story you want to tell.

A final thought from me about my personal preferences. I'd like to ask for a little clarity. I'm actually more worried about rape potentially being such a big part of the game. I work with college students and a big part of what I do is aiding trauma victims. So, for me rape is not a fetish it is a real event I have to deal with the real aftermath of on a regular basis, so it is the last thing I want in a game I am using to escape from the world for a few hours. I was intrigued by the game but then I read some of the comments and now I am a bit worried. I don't play games with rape that is not 100% avoidable once I take over playing the Main Character. If it happened in a character's backstory, then I can deal with it as long as it is never shown. If rape can happen to any character off screen or in the background that cannot be avoid, I would like to know that as this game will not be for me. There is a lot of stuff I don't care for but will play a game with it if something else makes the game enjoyable. Unavoidable rape is the one thing I will never play a game with. So, based off the following quote I can set to never have "hard themed scenes" happen at all right? So, if I were to, for example, lose a fight, or show up late to an event by accident then I would not need to worry about a girl being raped? Or could a girl still be raped but I just didn't have to see it?

If it were to happen, you will have the choice to stop, prevent it. If choose no hard themed scenes, it won't happen. You may miss events, but it won't happen.
I hope my question makes sense and, again, either way I wish you the best of luck and hope you have joy in making your game the way you want. Also, sorry for my long post, I often start out wanting to write something short and end up writing an essay. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I hope this can help a little to avoid any debates or arguments in your games thread moving forward.

According to this website's tag system NTR is this:
  • NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the Main Character.]
Some key things to remember about this are:
1. A Romantic Interest does not mean they are already with the Main Character but that the main character is interested in being romantic with them even if he isn't yet. They may not be the Main Character's girl yet, but if they could be then they are a Romantic Interest.
2. The reason for the Romantic Interest being with someone else doesn't matter if the design was to cause jealousy (or other negative emotions) in either the main character or player. So, if a girl is raped it is still, based on the site tag, NTR.
3. Most players will assume any girl is a Romantic Interest unless you make it very clear they are not. This can be done easily by having the Main Character think to himself that he is not interested in them. A thought I have had about several blind dates in my life.
4. Also, be sure and be clear about if something is Avoidable or Skippable. Avoidable means it never happens if we avoid it. Skippable means the event happens we just don't have to see it. Skippable is worse than something being forced, as it removes the players ability to do anything about it and makes the player still feel the bad emotions because it still happened, and they will see the consequences afterwards.

If I could offer a little advice. Remember that every hour you spend making a sex scene with a girl and someone other than the Main Character you are:
1. Making a scene that most player will not see. Most people who enjoy harem and incest game will select to never see those scenes from the beginning if you give that option. Often your time would be better spend making content that more players will see. Content of the girls with the Main Character.
2. Each scene without the Main Character is also not advancing the relationship between the girl and the Main Character. It may advance the plot, but you can almost always find other ways to advance the plot without resorting to showing other characters having sex.
3. If it is a random girl then many players will skip or avoid it as well. Remember that most players are here to play a game with sex scenes of the Main Character and his girls, not watch sex scene between random people. If people only wanted sex scenes, they would just watch porn. Most players want to see scenes with characters they care about being together in meaningful ways.
4. Lastly, I would advise you to decide the type of game you want to make now, don't leave it up to your players. You will always get players who want different things and the more you try and make every group happy the less you make anyone happy, including yourself. If you add a bunch of rape and NTR and sharing, then the harem lovers will leave the game. If you only add a little bit of NTR or sharing or other people having sex besides the Main Character, then NTR players will always demand more and will accuse you of misleading them by pretending to make a game for them when you don't want to.

Everything above was just to, hopefully, add some clarity to some player's thoughts and to help you see some things from other points of view. It is just advice, and you are free to take it or not. Make a game you will enjoy making, a game you would enjoy playing. You will always get people wanting other things from you, but you should make the game you want to make. Players will come and go, they will make demands, but you are the one who has to spend hours and days and weeks making the game. You are the one who has to look back at it as something you are happy to make. So, while it is good to listen to your players wants and take them in, they must come second to the story you want to tell.

A final thought from me about my personal preferences. I'd like to ask for a little clarity. I'm actually more worried about rape potentially being such a big part of the game. I work with college students and a big part of what I do is aiding trauma victims. So, for me rape is not a fetish it is a real event I have to deal with the real aftermath of on a regular basis, so it is the last thing I want in a game I am using to escape from the world for a few hours. I was intrigued by the game but then I read some of the comments and now I am a bit worried. I don't play games with rape that is not 100% avoidable once I take over playing the Main Character. If it happened in a character's backstory, then I can deal with it as long as it is never shown. If rape can happen to any character off screen or in the background that cannot be avoid, I would like to know that as this game will not be for me. There is a lot of stuff I don't care for but will play a game with it if something else makes the game enjoyable. Unavoidable rape is the one thing I will never play a game with. So, based off the following quote I can set to never have "hard themed scenes" happen at all right? So, if I were to, for example, lose a fight, or show up late to an event by accident then I would not need to worry about a girl being raped? Or could a girl still be raped but I just didn't have to see it?



I hope my question makes sense and, again, either way I wish you the best of luck and hope you have joy in making your game the way you want. Also, sorry for my long post, I often start out wanting to write something short and end up writing an essay. :ROFLMAO:
Thanks for this, this helps a lot!

According to the NTR topic:
I understand what you say, and to clarify, hard themed scenes refers mostly to random scenes with npcs (only a few images, not planning into making the player see how a monster fucks a random woman in the world if not really necessary. With Hard themed scenes for the mc/mc girls, I refer to some villain trying to rape one or something like that to one of your girls. Which, as I said, will be avoidable or stoppable. It's a hero game, player will have to save the girls from different problems (not every time, but, probably more than once for each girl). If the player choose not to have hard themed scenes, that won't happen, as said before, player may miss some events (Like the scene per-se, and the consequences, since it won't happen) It will not stop the story or the progress of a girl obviously. Another example of the game gameplay is Jennika (the teacher) She will try to femdom the player (also the player will have the choice to turn the table). If player choose femdom off, then Jennika won't just happen.

I'm positive, that most ppl hates NTR, that's why I'll try to avoid it every time. I guess some situations will ever lead to is it or not discussions.

About random girls sex scenes:
I'm not sure if you played RBL1 (my first game). In some moment, a monster will be raping and policewoman, If I'm right, the scene has 5 pics (1 seeing the raping, and 3 for the girls running away). 1 Before the battle start. If that were to happen at Genex, it would probably be the same, not making any real focus on that, just showing it up, if necessary.

About doing what players ask for:
Yes, I always listen to players, since they are the ones supporting me, but that doesn't mean I'll do whatever they ask for. I like to read their thoughts to learn and maybe get some ideas. Las week a player asked for a certain girl, and I said, why not? And there you have SENEKO as a heroine based on Senko-San. But if ppl comes asking for something I don't like or want for the game like idk... Sissification or ABDL, it won't happen. I have ppl asking for NTR, but I always say, if it where to happen, itwill probably be a outside patch, to avoid getting the tag. (If it ever happens).

About the Rape/Hard themed scenes:

Don't worry, as I said, IF rape where to happen to one of the girls, or random NPCs, player will have the option to prevent/stop/avoid. If you play on easy mode, each choice (if I don't forget) will tell you what did your choice did. (advance a girl, stop a girl, advance you as a good hero o villain). I'd recommend no one disables hard themed scenes, If he wants to "save the girl".

In the example you mention "Lose a fight" or "making the wrong choice" or "Not making there on time".

If Hard themed scenes on: Much probably, someone else will save her, or help you save her.
If hard themed scenes off: It just won't happen. Won't exist, won't affect the game.

PS: Hanah, will start with a hard themed scene... If want to know more....
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Ok, I'm sorry about my bad english, I know this can be hard to read, but I hope it clarifies your doubts!

Once again, I love big comments, really helps me learn!
 

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Thanks for this, this helps a lot!

Ok, I'm sorry about my bad english, I know this can be hard to read, but I hope it clarifies your doubts!

Once again, I love big comments, really helps me learn!
Thank you for the information. Don't worry about the English, I was able to understand what you are saying just fine.
 

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I am not too sure of your logic there.

NTR probably happens in every game with a statement like that. Despite the narrative, there is a wider world in many games where NTR takes place.

If you are so disgusted by it and the fact 'it happened', I can't imagine you willing to play many games here.

I will say it is positively moronic some people who want fantasies where only the male MC, they play as, has sex. How did all those characters get born then?

And since the tag is so damn interpretative, that you only consider it on the LI's in the game, then guess what? Miss Jennika an older woman probably had it plenty before the game setting started.

Just don't play the game and move to greener pastures, than getting annoyed at the fact 'NTR happened'.
The human mind is an interesting piece of tech. Alot of people are something else and you shouldn't stress yourself over that shit regardless of how much sense you make.

While I agree with you and share your same sentiment, I would just say keep it moving and let them have those echo chamber thoughts. It's what gets them off in the first place.
 

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Just reporting some bugs or strange things. Not sure it will useful but one never knows.

Bugs / Similar:
render problem on 1st Vellanie hug scene (after 1st pool combat): during hug, a blue jacket is worn, just after it disappears
 
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Just reporting some bugs or strange things. Not sure it will useful but one never knows.

Bugs / Similar:
render problem on 1st Vellanie hug scene (after 1st pool combat): during hug, a blue jacket is worn, just after it disappears
Fixed, also the fight at the pool has now the correct outfit. Thanks for reporting this.
 

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Well... I gave this a spin, so I suppose I'll leave some comments.

First of all, I like the plot so far. I feel like I've seen a million games with MHA characters, but here we have one that instead borrows its general plot idea, which is good. If it was just that, as a simple VN, I would read the crap out of it.

The sandbox element (if you wanna call it that) of picking your two actions for the week, can so far be ignored by clicking Skip, which makes me so happy. I would imagine, though, that that will likely cause trouble later...

So far, there are 2 opportunities for combat, I think. The second one, where you pick a difficulty on the map, can be skipped by clicking the big red HELP button, which is not what I expected the button to do. But that's fine because as I've noticed on the first opportunity (the mandatory fight at the pool), the combat involves entirely too much clicking and is just a mindless slugfest. I imagine it will become more interesting as the MC gains more abilities, but for the time being, taking down one enemy just takes one turn where you activate strength 5 times and then OHKO. It's not even remotely fun.
I'm not a big fan of this kind of RPG combat system in adult games. If I wanna play an RPG, there's a ton of professionally-made, award-winning ones I could play instead. But if I were to suggest one improvement, it's to cut down on the necessary clicks to get through these sequences. Using the Super Strength currently requires you to pick yourself as a target, which is unnecessary, since there's only one: yourself. And when fighting only one enemy, I would think it's obvious enough who I want to punch.

Moving on. This wouldn't be one of my overly long feedback comments if I didn't mention the grammar. The brief introduction at the beginning warns us that this would contain "a lame grammar", which sums it up quite nicely. It's distractingly bad, but since the dev is clearly aware of it, I won't go into much detail. Though even ignoring all the grammar issues, people just say things in really weird ways. I imagine this is what can happen if you translate somewhat badly from Spanish. Since I don't speak that, I can only guess. Still recognized it though, because of those upside-down question marks. Though I wonder what happened to the language selection in the options menu. It doesn't seem to work.

Speaking of things that don't work. This is one of those rare Ren'Py games where I can't figure out how to edit the script. Or rather, the game ignores my changes... You see, when I find something annoying that I should be able to fix with a small change to the script, I usually do that. But not only does UnRen give me some error messages about missing files, but my edit is ignored after relaunching the game.
Guess I went on a bit of a tangent there... What I wanted to change in the script was the coloration of character names in the dialogue. Maybe it's just me, but it throws me off when the names are colored like that. Makes me put the emphasis on the name when reading, which is usually not right, so I have to read it again, purposely ignoring the different color.
 

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Well... I gave this a spin, so I suppose I'll leave some comments.

First of all, I like the plot so far. I feel like I've seen a million games with MHA characters, but here we have one that instead borrows its general plot idea, which is good. If it was just that, as a simple VN, I would read the crap out of it.
Hi, happy to read you! Thanks for taking the time to write this.

The sandbox element (if you wanna call it that) of picking your two actions for the week, can so far be ignored by clicking Skip, which makes me so happy. I would imagine, though, that that will likely cause trouble later...
Yes, I tried to make the sandbox part easy and fast, I don't want ppl navigating through maps wasting time, or getting lose or having to talk to a same character 50 times to get something. It's just a background thing, but you should not really skip it, because as you said, will probably get you in trouble in the future.
Though, I now thanks to you added a skip fight option!

So far, there are 2 opportunities for combat, I think. The second one, where you pick a difficulty on the map, can be skipped by clicking the big red HELP button, which is not what I expected the button to do. But that's fine because as I've noticed on the first opportunity (the mandatory fight at the pool), the combat involves entirely too much clicking and is just a mindless slugfest. I imagine it will become more interesting as the MC gains more abilities, but for the time being, taking down one enemy just takes one turn where you activate strength 5 times and then OHKO. It's not even remotely fun.
I'm not a big fan of this kind of RPG combat system in adult games. If I wanna play an RPG, there's a ton of professionally-made, award-winning ones I could play instead. But if I were to suggest one improvement, it's to cut down on the necessary clicks to get through these sequences. Using the Super Strength currently requires you to pick yourself as a target, which is unnecessary, since there's only one: yourself. And when fighting only one enemy, I would think it's obvious enough who I want to punch.
Yeah, the help button I've noticed that it wasn't working, but it's already fixed... (Though is not red but yellow xD). About the clicks, sadly that's there because if you missclick or something, that gives you the choice to cancel the skill. But I'll look into the SuperStrength thing, since, it doesn't end the turn, and it's cancelable, I will try to remove that click.
- SuperStrength will now activate in one click.

Moving on. This wouldn't be one of my overly long feedback comments if I didn't mention the grammar. The brief introduction at the beginning warns us that this would contain "a lame grammar", which sums it up quite nicely. It's distractingly bad, but since the dev is clearly aware of it, I won't go into much detail. Though even ignoring all the grammar issues, people just say things in really weird ways. I imagine this is what can happen if you translate somewhat badly from Spanish. Since I don't speak that, I can only guess. Still recognized it though, because of those upside-down question marks. Though I wonder what happened to the language selection in the options menu. It doesn't seem to work.
Yes, sadly English is not may main language, and even if ppl can understand what's been told, I can imagine that's not pretty to read. That will get fixed when the proofreading reaches Genex. The language option is disabled, since the game is only in English for the moment.

Speaking of things that don't work. This is one of those rare Ren'Py games where I can't figure out how to edit the script. Or rather, the game ignores my changes... You see, when I find something annoying that I should be able to fix with a small change to the script, I usually do that. But not only does UnRen give me some error messages about missing files, but my edit is ignored after relaunching the game.
I can't help you here, I never got into that editing part, so I'm not sure how it works and why are you getting errors/being ignored.

Guess I went on a bit of a tangent there... What I wanted to change in the script was the coloration of character names in the dialogue. Maybe it's just me, but it throws me off when the names are colored like that. Makes me put the emphasis on the name when reading, which is usually not right, so I have to read it again, purposely ignoring the different color.
I'll keep this in mind, maybe adding something to remove the color of the names, I thought it was a nice touch, but if it can be annoying then I'll try to bring an option to change it.
- Option to disable colors added.
I'm thinking also into adding something to skip the fights, like an autofight thing so you just click on it, and you get the fight exp and rewards without seeing/playing the fight.
- Option to disable fights added.

Thanks for the feedback!
 
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