Ren'Py 30 Year Old Virgin [v0.31.DV] [Black Star Games]

[Games & Games]

No NTR (ok, let me post my dissertation on what I mean by that)
- NTR has a very fluid definition, you ask five people and you will get five different answers of what NTR is. The way I am defining it is: A humanoid male taking the mc's (player's) love interest.

Yes, your description of NTR is correct, but you should include, in addition to human, Aliens, as the villain is an Alien and there are many characters like that, so as not to have any doubts as to what will not be there.

As I always said, you are the creator of the game and you decide what is best for the game, but I'm just giving tips, because I really liked the game and I want it to go very far.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I've been getting a lot of dm's about it so I figured I'd put out a statement to clarify.

No, I will not change scenes because someone complains about something. But I will change one if it's unintentionally controversial or accidently sends an incorrect message that I didn't intend it to.

Things that will not be in the game:
No scat (Just no never, not gona happen)
No M/M (MMF = no. MFF = yes. ect)
No vore (I'm personally not against some vore but it is the wrong vibe for the game. The game is meant to be stupid and campy, touching on dark topics is tonally off)
No NTR (ok, let me post my dissertation on what I mean by that)
- NTR has a very fluid definition, you ask five people and you will get five different answers of what NTR is. The way I am defining it is: A humanoid male taking the mc's (player's) love interest.
- In some occasions there will be other males having sex throughout the game but it won't be with a players love interest. There might be tension/drama and competition for a player love interest but it will not happen.
- The player may take another characters love interest.
- There might be another character who's love interest is taken by another whom of all are not related to the main character (the player) or their own love interests.
- I say humanoid, so things like: machines, animals, tentacles ect.. Not sure the best way to say it but they can't emotionally take your girl. Maybe I have brain rot from too much hentai but they are closer to objects imo. Now not to say that every character will get vaginally fucked by a horses but there will be some 'playful exploring'. Which will be easily avoidable by disabling the option at game start or admin menu in the game.
- I only changed the Krryie scene because I had a paradigm shift once I had a better understanding of the nuance with NTR. For back when I was a mere hermit climbing the highest mountain seeking enlightenment, standing atop the summit looking over the pearly white clouds, I beseeched the gods to share with me their most profound knowledge. Their divine message resonated throughout the brisk mountain air saying "I got you bro, here's everything you need to know about cuckolding.". So anyway, that was a fun experience to learn.

If it is not listed in the above, it's probably on the table that will be included in the game (or I consider it a sub category of something listed above).

Now obviously people will respond with:
- "Well *akshully* you are wrong because this is my definition of things."
or
- "The mere thought of such [degeneracy] in my porn game?! Unacceptable! You sir have lost a paying pirating customer of this free game!".

Like sure boo, you do you. Join in on my ride and enjoy it for what it is or don't hop on. It's totally fine with me.

Hopefully this clears up a few concerns/questions people had.

Personally as long as I can make it so that the only one who has sex with the LIs is the MC, is perfect enough (despite all my "innocence and purity"). The truth is that the sex scenes where neither the MC nor the LIs participate are of little importance to me (whatever they are, they don't affect the "innocence and purity"), I will surely skip them using CTRL because, as I said, they don't interest me, but I don't rule out seeing them.

 

[Black Star Games]

Well, have fun with that kind of rebrand. I thought your doing this to avoid controversy and not to start a new one.

But I'm all for it as the last threat I lurked got nuked by mods recently.

so don't mind me.
View attachment 3416787

Yeah man, feel free to do whatever you want. I'm not sure what you are expecting to happen though?

 

[Juerhullycin]

Yeah man, feel free to do whatever you want. I'm not sure what you are expecting to happen though?

 

[harem.king]

Yeah man, feel free to do whatever you want. I'm not sure what you are expecting to happen though?

He is expecting a shitstorm because you are explicitly telling people that there will be no NTR and then having other males either fuck or rape the MC's lovers.

Defending it with "ackshually legally I think it does not count because they are being fucked by a horse/tentacle monster/dog/whatever and horses have no soul therefore it is no different than using a dildo"

You are literally the only one that thinks that having your wife fuck a horse is "no different than her using a dildo".

 

[Black Star Games]

He is expecting a shitstorm because you are explicitly telling people that there will be no NTR and then having other males either fuck or rape the MC's lovers.

This is exactly what I typed that will not happen, so hopefully this clears up the confusion you may have had.

 

[Juerhullycin]

This is exactly what I typed that will not happen, so hopefully this clears up the confusion you may have had.

come on, do the same for his second paragraph.

 

[harem.king]

This is exactly what I typed that will not happen, so hopefully this clears up the confusion you may have had.

Finish reading the post you are replying to

Defending it with "ackshually legally I think it does not count because they are being fucked by a horse/tentacle monster/dog/whatever and horses have no soul therefore it is no different than using a dildo"

You are literally the only one that thinks that having your wife fuck a horse is "no different than her using a dildo".

I specifically used the word "male" and not "man".
You are explicitly saying we will still have animals raping or fucking the MC's women.
But it does not count because in your mind you view a horse raping your mother when she is accidentally stuck in a pillory to be no different than her using a dildo to masturbate.

 

[Black Star Games]

Finish reading the post you are replying to

I specifically used the word "male" and not "man".
You are explicitly saying we will still have animals raping or fucking the MC's women.
But it does not count because in your mind you view a horse raping your mother when she is accidentally stuck in a pillory to be no different than her using a dildo to masturbate.

Oh you two silly gooses. So if you read I specifically state it does not mean that there will be rampant horse fucking of all the love interests. One or two will 'explore' at most, which will be avoidable at game start or in the admin menu.

That being said, my game does have a very mild degeneracy bar to play. If you don't got it then the game is simply not for you.

There are plenty of other great porn games that are exceptionally vanilla and more for your tastes, if you would like some recommendations I would be happy to share a few.

 

[Slick Bean]

Just a few images for one of the next scenes coming in 0.27. This time it continues with Nemf visiting our mc's home once again. Advancing hers and Rapun'Zeal's story with the main story. Quite the treat to get you over the weekend. Enjoy!


In other news ... 0.26 is out :

Spoiler: What goes inside ...

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

 

[Games & Games]

Oh you two silly gooses. So if you read I specifically state it does not mean that there will be rampant horse fucking of all the love interests. One or two will 'explore' at most, which will be avoidable at game start or in the admin menu.

That being said, my game does have a very mild degeneracy bar to play. If you don't got it then the game is simply not for you.

There are plenty of other great porn games that are exceptionally vanilla and more for your tastes, if you would like some recommendations I would be happy to share a few.

If in this "exploitation" of people who have sex with animals and machines, the MC is there and enjoys it as a fetish or participants in it, then nothing happens behind their back, because it's one thing to have this happen behind his back, it's another to have fun with him. together watching and letting it happen or participating. When this happens, it should be a joint decision between him and the LI that is going to happen and not a blocking of everything that happens in the administrator's menu.

I say this because I saw a game in which an MC LI had sex with a dog and here on the forum it received the ntr tag, because they were doing it behind the back of the game's MC

 

[harem.king]

If in this "exploitation" of people who have sex with animals and machines, the MC is there and enjoys it as a fetish or participants in it, then nothing happens behind their back,

So far I came across a scene where you lock your mom in a pillory to test it out and then get a phone call.
While you are away on the phone a horse approach to rape her.
You choose between ending the call early to come check on mom and rescue her, preventing her from being raped by a horse.
Or you can continue talking on the phone... which, presumably based on the scenario set up, would not have involved any consent from the MC... or his mother for that matter. Just horse raping waifu while his back is turned.

 

[harem.king]

Oh you two silly gooses. So if you read I specifically state it does not mean that there will be rampant horse fucking of all the love interests. One or two will 'explore' at most, which will be avoidable at game start or in the admin menu.

That being said, my game does have a very mild degeneracy bar to play. If you don't got it then the game is simply not for you.

There are plenty of other great porn games that are exceptionally vanilla and more for your tastes, if you would like some recommendations I would be happy to share a few.

Did you forget what the argument is about?
It is about you claiming that you are removing ALL the cuckoldry content in the reboot.
Yet are basing that figure on your own made up term definitions.

You specifically argue that a horse raping your waifu is equivalent to said waifu masturbating with a dildo.
And therefore not cucked / NTR.

You specifically argue that putting a few leaves on what is clearly an animal makes it a plant, and therefore it growing a human penis, chasing down, capturing and then raping your waifu is no different than her masturbating with a cucumber as if it was a dildo.

And now you are explicitly arguing that "only one or two characters will do it".
1 or 2 is NOT zero.

You can make whatever game you please.
But please do not try to gaslight me about what kind of tags it has.

You also seem to think that just because I am pointing out you are making up definition or trying to mislead people about what content is in the game that I am not the target audience.

If the cuck content is 100% avoidable I do not mind.
I played through your game and just chose to avoid all the cuckoldry content.
I play some other games that contain OPTIONAL cuck content, and avoid it there too.
So long as it is optional I am fine with it.

I am not arguing with you here to tell you to remove content from your game.
I am arguing with you about the WORDS you are typing here in the thread.
Specifically, the words where you are making up the most bizarre unique definitions for existing well known terms.

You do not need to mislead people about the content of your game.
You do not need to go "it does not count as cuckoldry content because only one or two women do it"
You do not need to go "it does not count as cuckoldry content because bestiality is akin to using a dildo".
Just honestly and accurately describe what is in the game, and tell people that this content is optional...

 

[MrFatCat]

Saves, anyone?

 

[Black Star Games]

Did you forget what the argument is about?
It is about you claiming that you are removing ALL the cuckoldry content in the reboot.
Yet are basing that figure on your own made up term definitions.

You specifically argue that a horse raping your waifu is equivalent to said waifu masturbating with a dildo.
And therefore not cucked / NTR.

You specifically argue that putting a few leaves on what is clearly an animal makes it a plant, and therefore it growing a human penis, chasing down, capturing and then raping your waifu is no different than her masturbating with a cucumber as if it was a dildo.

And now you are explicitly arguing that "only one or two characters will do it".
1 or 2 is NOT zero.

You can make whatever game you please.
But please do not try to gaslight me about what kind of tags it has.

You also seem to think that just because I am pointing out you are making up definition or trying to mislead people about what content is in the game that I am not the target audience.

If the cuck content is 100% avoidable I do not mind.
I played through your game and just chose to avoid all the cuckoldry content.
I play some other games that contain OPTIONAL cuck content, and avoid it there too.
So long as it is optional I am fine with it.

I am not arguing with you here to tell you to remove content from your game.
I am arguing with you about the WORDS you are typing here in the thread.
Specifically, the words where you are making up the most bizarre unique definitions for existing well known terms.

You do not need to mislead people about the content of your game.
You do not need to go "it does not count as cuckoldry content because only one or two women do it"
You do not need to go "it does not count as cuckoldry content because bestiality is akin to using a dildo".
Just honestly and accurately describe what is in the game, and tell people that this content is optional...

This is the reason why I put out the statement. I want to let everyone know upfront what kind of content to expect in my game. If they read it and say "This is not for me." then simply put, my game is not for them. I am not here to force people to play my game if they dont want to.

There is no gaslighting or hidden messages to decipher from the statement. At game start, and in the admin menu inside the game (accessible any time), I have two questions asking what content the player wishes to avoid all together. Cause I know it is sensitive content for some, this content if avoided will have no consequence on the game story or progression at all, they are merely sexual fantasies. One is bestiality, the other is the 'ntr lite'. The traditional sense of ntr in regards to the player character is not in my game *buuuuut* in the cases where people have their own expanded definition of what ntr is, the second option covers that so they can avoid that content if they so wish.

I put my definition of how I see things are in the statement so that even if people disagree with those terms, they can at least understand of what content is and will not be are. Arguing semantics is kinda pointless, its like playing MtG and saying "Well in Yugioh the rules are this.".

The bare bones, strict definition of NTR will never affect the player character.
Bestiality is optional and avoidable.
Adjacent definitions of NTR are optional and avoidable.

 

[Games & Games]

This is the reason why I put out the statement. I want to let everyone know upfront what kind of content to expect in my game. If they read it and say "This is not for me." then simply put, my game is not for them. I am not here to force people to play my game if they dont want to.

There is no gaslighting or hidden messages to decipher from the statement. At game start, and in the admin menu inside the game (accessible any time), I have two questions asking what content the player wishes to avoid all together. Cause I know it is sensitive content for some, this content if avoided will have no consequence on the game story or progression at all, they are merely sexual fantasies. One is bestiality, the other is the 'ntr lite'. The traditional sense of ntr in regards to the player character is not in my game *buuuuut* in the cases where people have their own expanded definition of what ntr is, the second option covers that so they can avoid that content if they so wish.

I put my definition of how I see things are in the statement so that even if people disagree with those terms, they can at least understand of what content is and will not be are. Arguing semantics is kinda pointless, its like playing MtG and saying "Well in Yugioh the rules are this.".

The bare bones, strict definition of NTR will never affect the player character.
Bestiality is optional and avoidable.
Adjacent definitions of NTR are optional and avoidable.

Did you forget what the argument is about?
It is about you claiming that you are removing ALL the cuckoldry content in the reboot.
Yet are basing that figure on your own made up term definitions.

You specifically argue that a horse raping your waifu is equivalent to said waifu masturbating with a dildo.
And therefore not cucked / NTR.

You specifically argue that putting a few leaves on what is clearly an animal makes it a plant, and therefore it growing a human penis, chasing down, capturing and then raping your waifu is no different than her masturbating with a cucumber as if it was a dildo.

And now you are explicitly arguing that "only one or two characters will do it".
1 or 2 is NOT zero.

You can make whatever game you please.
But please do not try to gaslight me about what kind of tags it has.

You also seem to think that just because I am pointing out you are making up definition or trying to mislead people about what content is in the game that I am not the target audience.

If the cuck content is 100% avoidable I do not mind.
I played through your game and just chose to avoid all the cuckoldry content.
I play some other games that contain OPTIONAL cuck content, and avoid it there too.
So long as it is optional I am fine with it.

I am not arguing with you here to tell you to remove content from your game.
I am arguing with you about the WORDS you are typing here in the thread.
Specifically, the words where you are making up the most bizarre unique definitions for existing well known terms.

You do not need to mislead people about the content of your game.
You do not need to go "it does not count as cuckoldry content because only one or two women do it"
You do not need to go "it does not count as cuckoldry content because bestiality is akin to using a dildo".
Just honestly and accurately describe what is in the game, and tell people that this content is optional...

No NTR (ok, let me post my dissertation on what I mean by that)
- NTR has a very fluid definition, you ask five people and you will get five different answers of what NTR is.

The bare bones, strict definition of NTR will never affect the player character.
Bestiality is optional and avoidable.
Adjacent definitions of NTR are optional and avoidable.

NTR for me the definition is simple or it is Netorare (which is when the MC is betrayed or cuckolded, whatever by his lover or passion and the "being" (I put it in quotes because it could be anything) has sex with her without consent of the MC, either in fantasy or in general, of course less in dreams or of course also having your LI stolen by another guy (whether Human or not)

Let's think about real life, yes I know it's a game, but imagine a person who is dating two girls and they have the fantasy of being eaten by a "being" (dog, horse, whatever) and doing it for the your back and you find out, how would you feel?

That to me is NTR, in other words he was betrayed by the person, and from what I heard from the beginning there would be no NTR in this game, when this scene appears you can be sure that the netorare tag will appear, as it will be something without the consent of the MC, I wouldn't like to avoid any content, I actually think this type of fantasy is cool, but as the MC would like the LIs who were going to do this to come and talk to him about this fantasy and invite him, then whether he accepts or not, if he accepts the scene happens, if it doesn't, it doesn't happen and the problem with this NTR shit that only serves to get in the way of good games is resolved.

And yes, I know, everyone has their own taste and we have to respect them.

 

[mikel8519]

Great another game where MC is a meak weak bitch ...while all other characters have their fun ...I wonder why we cant play them though it would be more interesting for sure....

 

[Games & Games]

Great another game where MC is a meak weak bitch ...while all other characters have their fun ...I wonder why we cant play them though it would be more interesting for sure....

I think the MC is weak at the beginning, then with time in the game he learns and gets stronger, otherwise it wouldn't be funny, but he's cucks because of animals and machines , Am I kidding or not

 

[Black Star Games]

Great another game where MC is a meak weak bitch ...while all other characters have their fun ...I wonder why we cant play them though it would be more interesting for sure....

Well, a few reasons for that.

One: The game is called 30 Year Old Virgin. What kind of virgin would the main character be if he was some super chad slamming bitches every where he walks?

Two: The game is stupid and campy, it would be less interesting if he was some cool badass, imo.

Three: The main character I intend to have character development as the game goes on. He wont always be meek. How well I pull that off would be another question but it is the plan.

 

[MrFatCat]

Ha ha. We get it, dev thinks they're funny 4D chess whatever and y'all trolling them. Now can someone post saves? I will not play this thing all over again.