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"There are plenty of games where the entire story is about the MC using any woman he comes in contact with as a disposable toilet. And in this game Ethan is not that guy. Maybe peter is that guy? :ROFLMAO: Nah, probably not. "
Exactly, i don't like those games as well, i just don't get why you're always presented mentally sick MC shall it be female or male. Some games have good stories even really good, extreme don't fall in that category (harem and ntr , rape stuff) but in that case, don't bullshit people with false tags or lying description of the game you're planing to make ...

the description isn't vague at all...

" You can challenge yourself to steer the couple towards a path that strengthens their love and overcome the challenges as either a conventional couple or a more adventurous one. Or you can choose to push them down the path of ruin and debauchery. " and
" "Yes, ntr or any non-conventional relationships are avoidable."

that's probably a trick to get support from people at start of the game then deviates to the fetish the authors like but that's still lying ... and that should be changed accordingly as the games evolves because people discovering that forum might be tricked too.
Friend, if you got tricked by me into an imaginary trap, I'm sorry. It's beyond my abilities or qualifications to help you with that. I'll just give an apology. You can use it in any way you see fit. And please be very mindful of traps in the future. Those scummy devs are out there to trick you into playing their games for free. The worst kind.
 

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"Friend, if you got tricked by me into an imaginary trap, I'm sorry. It's beyond my abilities or qualifications to help you with that. I'll just give an apology. You can use it in any way you see fit. And please be very mindful of traps in the future. Those scummy devs are out there to trick you into playing their games for free. The worst kind. "
I'm not tricked at all and it's possibly not the right term for that behaviour .You created a project a few years ago and needed money , you used a large fake description probably to gather suscribers. That's ok i can even understand that, probably you got some months with more suscribers you have now (testing your work i like it / i don't like it), with an extra income then now you have a regular income with your core supporter. But some years after you took the direction you wanted being in total contradiction with what you stated at first (let's say i'm reading your description and suscribe , of course it's just one month and i doubt anyone is giving a fuck about losing that bit of money I have myself dozens of shitty economics suscribptions that i don't even read/listen but still, maybe with actual honest content description people wouldn't suscribe at the first place) . your core suscribers are already here, maybe you should change your description now accordingly to what you're doing to let people know what they will find in your game now and not what they were supposed to find years ago.
 
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"Friend, if you got tricked by me into an imaginary trap, I'm sorry. It's beyond my abilities or qualifications to help you with that. I'll just give an apology. You can use it in any way you see fit. And please be very mindful of traps in the future. Those scummy devs are out there to trick you into playing their games for free. The worst kind. "
I'm not tricked at all and it's possibly not the right term for that behaviour .You created a project a few years ago and needed money , you used a large fake description probably to gather suscribers. That's ok i can even understand that, probably you got some months with more suscribers you have now (testing your work i like it / i don't like it), with an extra income then now you have a regular income with your core supporter. But some years after you took the direction you wanted being in total contradiction with what you stated at first (let's say i'm reading your description and suscribe , of course it's just one month and i doubt anyone is giving a fuck about losing that bit of money I have myself dozens of shitty economics suscribptions that i don't even read/listen but still, maybe with actual honest content description people wouldn't suscribe at the first place) . your core suscribers are already here, maybe you should change your description now accordingly to what you're doing to let people know what they will find in your game now and not what they were supposed to find years ago.
It gets worse than that to.
 

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WTF are you about?



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Overview:
This is the story of a young married couple moving into a new neighborhood after selling their home due to an unexpected financial crisis. In a new environment with new problems and encounters, the couple faces new challenges and opportunities that could redefine, transform or even threaten their relationship.
SPOILER: MORE
In this game, you make the decisions as both the male and female protagonists, affecting the plot in a realistic, organic, and complex manner. The storyline adapts according to the developing personality traits of the two main characters, and there are no clear-cut paths to many and different storylines you could follow.
You can challenge yourself to steer the couple towards a path that strengthens their love and overcome the challenges as either a conventional couple or a more adventurous one. Or you can choose to push them down the path of ruin and debauchery. It's all up to your decision, but reaching the end you want will be a challenge and a game itself.
Updates happen once a month and there's a Patreon only week before the full public release.
Yes, ntr or any non-conventional relationships are avoidable.
 

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You are describing a character that just doesn't exist in this story. Even the Ethan that kicks her out probably wouldn't do this. And the reason they are even on this path ( in the mutual path ) is because Ethan likes it and Nat started to indulge him. Obviously she now likes it too, she likes being a slut. But for Ethan to suddenly change on a dime and do what you suggest would be so out of character...it just wouldn't make sense at all. Ethan having doubts? Sure. Ethan feeling worried or shocked by Nat's behavior? Sure. Ethan feeling a bit sick at what is happening at times? Sure. And we've already seen that within his own monologue/thoughts, he just hasn't confronted Nat about it because when all is said and done the lust he feels is stronger than his worry/doubt/disappointment.

And making an ending, like the one you suggested, just to placate the audience that wants to see the roles reversed in a game where such a scenario would just make for a different game with different characters is just a waste of time. There are plenty of games where the entire story is about the MC using any woman he comes in contact with as a disposable toilet. And in this game Ethan is not that guy. Maybe peter is that guy? :ROFLMAO: Nah, probably not.




what does it feel like to play where throughout the story your wife collects dicks and the husband is only the driver, what differentiates these games from the harem ones in the long run, if in the story or game there is no dynamic of contrasts, no emotion exists , let's reduce these games to a simple, point and sweep, naaa, a story must have its ups and downs, but in these there is only one fact, exactly like harems, when you play a game about couples, everyone ends up on the same track , are not even close to a grain of truth, in harems we have the Alpha male, in these, we have passive beta males and alpha wives. with a difference, in these games we have the wickedness with which the wife humiliates her husband, even further from real open couples. you enjoy seeing other men being trampled without a minimum of pride, they are games, ok, but if I compare it to PacMan, I can assure you that I have more emotions in it than in NTR games
 

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" You can challenge yourself to steer the couple towards a path that strengthens their love and overcome the challenges as either a conventional couple or a more adventurous one. Or you can choose to push them down the path of ruin and debauchery. " and
" "Yes, ntr or any non-conventional relationships are avoidable."
In terms of what focus the game will have it's absolutely vague, it basically says nothing about kinks or fetishes. In essence it says you can have vanilla sex or spicy sex. I almost feel like I'm arguing your point since you feel like you were cheated in the description. But one of the reason why the description has to remain vague is because there are so many different paths you can take, which can drastically change the player experience.

But I'll tell you one thing though, if I myself didn't enjoy NTR (which you said yourself that you don't) I probably would have stopped playing this game a long time ago. But I can understand if you went into this game expecting a vanilla couple doing vanilla things where the challenge for them will be Ethan trying to convince Nat to attempt anal sex. Don't get me wrong, that can be a good story too. I enjoy many different types of genres and kinks, but it's just not what this game was ever meant to be from my understanding. But I rest my case.

what does it feel like to play where throughout the story your wife collects dicks and the husband is only the driver, what differentiates these games from the harem ones in the long run, if in the story or game there is no dynamic of contrasts, no emotion exists , let's reduce these games to a simple, point and sweep, naaa, a story must have its ups and downs, but in these there is only one fact, exactly like harems, when you play a game about couples, everyone ends up on the same track , are not even close to a grain of truth, in harems we have the Alpha male, in these, we have passive beta males and alpha wives. with a difference, in these games we have the wickedness with which the wife humiliates her husband, even further from real open couples. you enjoy seeing other men being trampled without a minimum of pride, they are games, ok, but if I compare it to PacMan, I can assure you that I have more emotions in it than in NTR games
I have been a big proponent of showing more drama/emotions, (inner conflicts and thoughts) from the characters since I first discovered this game, so I'm with you there. But still, everything you are talking about here is highly dependant on what path you are playing, and I'm getting tired of saying it. It sounds to me like the path you want is one where both Ethan and Nat goes out and have sex with different people and then come home and kiss eachother good night, and I don't think that path exist.
 
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King B

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that's probably a trick to get support from people at start of the game then deviates to the fetish the authors like but that's still lying ... and that should be changed accordingly as the games evolves because people discovering that forum might be tricked too.
I'm not tricked at all and it's possibly not the right term for that behaviour .
You are confused and confuse me too.
In terms of what focus the game will have it's absolutely vague, it basically says nothing about kinks or fetishes. In essence it says you can have vanilla sex or spicy sex. I almost feel like I'm arguing your point since you feel like you were cheated in the description. But one of the reason why the description has to remain vague is because there are so many different paths you can take, which can drastically change the player experience.
Now you confuse me even more.

Do you even realize that this is an unfinished game and story? This is the same as some person reading a book halfway and then complaining to the author that the villain took over the country, but the book description said the hero prevailed. Do you see how most people will find that confusing and crazy?

As I said, this is not something I can help you with. I write the story as I see fit, and I'm not a professional writer or even a game maker. Please don't expect that level from a porn game running on donations, just like I don't expect professional-level critics in a place like this.

I can't waste time to deceive people into playing a game. I didn't even update the description or tags here after the first posting. I'll update it when I'm near to finishing the game. I realized it's better to let people play and decide if this is for them or not because even I can't put an accurate description for an unfinished game. Most people are mature enough to find it out for themselves and not get personally attacked by what they find.

I guess this might be an outlet for you to let out some frustration from your real-life situations. I get it; life sucks; banging on some internet stranger about some mundane things is therapeutic. But as I said, I'm not a professional in that field too.

If you say my game sucks and I suck, you are free to think that. You do you, friend. ;)
 

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You are confused and confuse me too.


Now you confuse me even more.

Do you even realize that this is an unfinished game and story? This is the same as some person reading a book halfway and then complaining to the author that the villain took over the country, but the book description said the hero prevailed. Do you see how most people will find that confusing and crazy?

As I said, this is not something I can help you with. I write the story as I see fit, and I'm not a professional writer or even a game maker. Please don't expect that level from a porn game running on donations, just like I don't expect professional-level critics in a place like this.

I can't waste time to deceive people into playing a game. I didn't even update the description or tags here after the first posting. I'll update it when I'm near to finishing the game. I realized it's better to let people play and decide if this is for them or not because even I can't put an accurate description for an unfinished game. Most people are mature enough to find it out for themselves and not get personally attacked by what they find.

I guess this might be an outlet for you to let out some frustration from your real-life situations. I get it; life sucks; banging on some internet stranger about some mundane things is therapeutic. But as I said, I'm not a professional in that field too.

If you say my game sucks and I suck, you are free to think that. You do you, friend. ;)
I have a question. Maybe you want to answer or maybe not.
Is the frat scene just a setup to fulfill Nat's sexaul fantasy or are there plans for more content for college kids?:unsure::unsure:
I would like to have the option of Nat being a sexy teacher who makes guys horny and some girls envious, there could be a lot of hot scenarios, maybe Ethan's horns would be the same color as the university emblem and they could confuse him with the university mascot?:unsure::LOL::LOL:
 

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Kingb ...you do you. Just for your information... As for me this is one of the more fun / interesting games out there. I really enjoy the adventures Nat and Etan are seeing. Yes, there is a darker path. I play that to ...but by far most are interesting and full of sex enjoyed by all. Keep it up. Do you... let all the naysayers roll off the back.
 

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I have a question. Maybe you want to answer or maybe not.
Is the frat scene just a setup to fulfill Nat's sexaul fantasy or are there plans for more content for college kids?:unsure::unsure:
I would like to have the option of Nat being a sexy teacher who makes guys horny and some girls envious, there could be a lot of hot scenarios, maybe Ethan's horns would be the same color as the university emblem and they could confuse him with the university mascot?:unsure::LOL::LOL:
Although I have plans for Nat to be involved the college kids more, I haven't planned for her to become a teacher. I cut that out early in the planning due to many games have already done that better than I could.
 

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"I can't waste time to deceive people into playing a game. I didn't even update the description or tags here after the first posting. I'll update it when I'm near to finishing the game. I realised it's better to let people play and decide if this is for them or not because even I can't put an accurate description for an unfinished game. Most people are mature enough to find it out for themselves and not get personally attacked by what they find. "

that's what i did and why i'll not play it anymore and won't post anymore don't worry. but anyway accurate description is important for me, might not be for everyone but porn games aside i like to know what i'm buying or what i am about to play. but who knows maybe in a few years you'll even see me supporting your work once you finish and actually pay for it because it will be appealing to me from what i read about it from the description and comments.
You're not a target for me no one is, it's just after looking for some games that would contains that kind of slice of life content and the same turn it always take with ntr content, i posted about your game because while some other might be vague in their description i found yours quite precise.
 
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Kingb ...you do you. Just for your information... As for me this is one of the more fun / interesting games out there. I really enjoy the adventures Nat and Etan are seeing. Yes, there is a darker path. I play that to ...but by far most are interesting and full of sex enjoyed by all. Keep it up. Do you... let all the naysayers roll off the back.
Thanks. I know there are trolls, which I completely ignore. However, some are very passionate and need closure to their frustrations. If I notice one like that, I give a few words and try to sympathize with them a bit. Some need a reminder that this isn't a completed work. Also, seeing some views and personalities different from the norm is exciting and amusing. I guess it's my way of having a little fun, too. :)
 

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Thanks. I know there are trolls, which I completely ignore. However, some are very passionate and need closure to their frustrations. If I notice one like that, I give a few words and try to sympathize with them a bit. Some need a reminder that this isn't a completed work. Also, seeing some views and personalities different from the norm is exciting and amusing. I guess it's my way of having a little fun, too. :)
Something else to consider... not all people in this forum are not native English speakers.;)
 

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you can find that LAST render on 3 different paths, one of the ntr paths, 2)Nat pure cheat behind Ethan back,
3) Nat leaves and lives with Jenn
I finally had time to play the NTR path were the sex scene at the frat partu seems to be incomplete.
it's probably cut like that because the scene is not finished yet and there will be more students joining Nat's fuckfest ???? :devilish:
... I'm not sure of course
in any case what you were saying about the unexpected cut is true (y) ...

it seems that the cuckolding path is the one that has the most content and with more coherent storyline
while the NTR path becomes a husbandless game ...basically it becomes a very selfish female protagonist

I can't wait for the next update--
 
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