Big Rooster

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It's not a character trait. It's easier to make a sex scene where ethan is not included and his involvement is largely away from the scene. Its consistent in most scenes even from their first time cucking. She gets fucked, camera turns to him to show that he is "involved". Otherwise you need to separately render scenes for just one route(this is why Peter route never gets anything its hyper specific from a point of rendering). Not cost or time effecient. Ethan being more into the mix is inefficient from a production perspective unless a majority of patreon voters demand it.

I noticed similar trends happening in movies where writing or choices were made of all sorts wasn't a plot point or made for artistic reason so much as it was the behind the scenes drama forcing writers to adapt the story. So is the character doing it because the writer thinks it fits the character and story or because the writing needs to adapt to somereal world circumstance demanding it? Even king b said his patrons dictate the story because he needs to cut a profit. Its effecient but not artistic. So the story becomes less coherent over time and more porny.

Watch with the "I would have stayed the night" update the story progress to her doing that with no choice on players part. It's bad writing, it's not my cup of tea story wise, but it is effecient for rendering a scene you can use in multiple routes including whether they are together or not.
Really though, when you're setting up the poses for a render with multiple figures, it takes more time for every additional figure, but not so much, maybe 30 minutes more per person, as long as you're planning on more figures from the start. The rendering process will take more time also. It's challenging but doable. But over 4 figures in one render will degrade DAZ's render quality. Adding a line of code for an additional scene takes more time, but not much.
When I make a group sex scene, I plan it out as a whole scene with the option of cutting figures later. And while I can render it out in stages and compile it all in a photo editor later if it is necessary, i.e. the figures and a floor/bedspread/etc., in one render and the background in another.
I'm not complaining at all, IMHO this game is the shit. But there's always room for improvement going forward.
 

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Having Ethan join the DP would be great...but I hope for his sake there is another man there ready to take his place since he will probably cum in about 20 seconds. Nat might really consider getting that cock-sleeve for Ethan if that happens. Could be a funny anniversary gift from Nat. :ROFLMAO:

Too toxic? C'mon it's funny ;)
If she really wanted to be toxic she would get him a chastity cage. :ROFLMAO: :oops:
I think the best gift Nat could give Ethan for his anniversary would be some glasses with a large prescription so that when he sees his cock he thinks he has a big one or a vagina reduction, the size of a smurfette's vagina. Will it be the right one? :unsure: o_O:love::LOL:
 
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I liked TACO's, played it some years ago, when it was still was The Adventurous Couple. But it got boring fast as the the story centered on how big of a whore Anne could become. At least the dev. didn't cross over into inter-species sex!... yet :LOL:

IMHO NTR is all about provoking an emotional response when your love interest is threatened, coerced, courted, tempted etc. etc. It's about the our feelings that we experience when confronted by such situtions, and not some strict textbook definition..
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Don't lose hope, remember that there is no drug label and Nat used them, maybe that during the game's story the pregnancy option appears for Nat and maybe Riya, about Peter it is possible that we will be old by the time Nat is enough corrupted by him, maybe you can tell your grandchildren? :unsure: :LOL: :LOL:
Deym. Must be a horror story for the ages, huh. :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
 

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I just want to see a spicy story with drama and a pinch of humiliation. I don't much care for how realistic it is as long as we are still within the bounds of this universe. Seeing aliens fly down and have their way with Nat would be an example of straying a bit too far away from realism. :ROFLMAO:

But then again, I am looking at this from the lens of someone who enjoys a wide range of erotica, and not someone who constantly need to self-insert and be the main character. Not saying there is anything wrong with doing that, it's just not how I consume literature in general, whether it's erotic literature or not. I am just a fly on the wall.
 

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I just want to see a spicy story with drama and a pinch of humiliation. I don't much care for how realistic it is as long as we are still within the bounds of this universe. Seeing aliens fly down and have their way with Nat would be an example of straying a bit too far away from realism. :ROFLMAO:

But then again, I am looking at this from the lens of someone who enjoys a wide range of erotica, and not someone who constantly need to self-insert and be the main character. Not saying there is anything wrong with doing that, it's just not how I consume literature in general, whether it's erotic literature or not. I am just a fly on the wall.
your not gonna get drama, he only wants to make it look like its always peachy and rosie where nothing goes wrong,
he done said that on his patron page
 
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your not gonna get drama, he only wants to make it look like its always peachy and rosie where nothing goes wrong,
he done said that on him patron page
Well, I suppose this depends on what path you are talking about. Cause some paths have plenty of drama, but I wouldn't mind seeing drama where the end result isn't divorce or zero chance at redemption in some form. A couple of bumps along the way type deal. Usually a good way of establishing character development.
 

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Well, I suppose this depends on what path you are talking about. Cause some paths have plenty of drama, but I wouldn't mind seeing drama where the end result isn't divorce or zero chance at redemption in some form. A couple of bumps along the way type deal. Usually a good way of establishing character development.
I guess you're right, I love creating drama in couples to find a way to reconcile them and see how much their relationship changes between them, what would a reconciliation be like on the bad ntr route, maybe a polyamory of Nat, Darrel and Ethan as a pet and would sleep on the floor waiting for your turn to clean the cream? :unsure: o_O:love::ROFLMAO:
Should I blame the Brazilian soap operas that I like so much?:unsure::unsure:
 

Big Rooster

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what if
Not much more effort is still more effort. Most profit for least effort is the name of the game. Hes not gonna work on this like a full time job for 20k a year. Sounds like a fuck ton of work that could be spent playing skyrim instead. Why bother? Not saying his product is shit, I'm saying hes human. This is definitely a top game on the site. Just the holes in it are transparent to me as not likely to be a mistake. A pure passion project has complete vision without requiring paid input and the diluted influence of sponsors is clearly showing.

Do you make animated renders? I only seen you making snapshots on your fan page while he is making scenes and animations, as well as coding and writing. No way it doesn't come out to hours of your day gone each month all to make a non supporter stfu about being able to see the sleight of hand. The magician is there for the rest of the audience to dazzle them, and they're don't care how the trick is done.



Guess I'm just too narcissistic to want her performance not to be all about me. Anyone can get themselves off, takes something more to do a "this is for you, enjoy". Means she cares enough not to just be up in her feels to be able to focus on what you're feeling and not herself.

Funny u mentioned tacos cuz that game was hogwash to me. They may as well have made it female mc pov who was single and made it a pornstar simulator.

Girl asks why u last so long I'm like cuz I'm waiting for you to have enough cuz this is for you, if it were all about me I'd blow in minutes and move on and you'd be dissatisfied, or I'd just have you blow me for an hour while I watch tv or read. Being on the receiving end of that feels really good knowing it's all about you. on the giving end the satisfaction is from you were the one getting the responses, you were the source of pleasure. Why Ethan for me just becoming passive beta cuck while his wife fucks without his knowledge or consent is lame, bystander in his own marriage and shes just a slut with a chump husband aka jenna. Even if he does go full cuck he should still be the center of her focus and not that weird shit that goes on where she needs to cry on darryl shoulder to feel like life is gonna be ok.

The hottest porn is the star breaking the 4th wall and being fully self aware that her goal and ultimately her satisfaction comes from knowing she pleased the viewer if not got them off. Most porn is trash cuz its neither her enjoying it nor her properly putting on a performance for the viewer, shes just working an office job she hate putting on fake moans. Having her actually enjoy it is a step above that but the sex is gonna look a lot more basic so less appeal to the eye and its not you doing fucking and the viewer is not the focal point. it's about her indulging herself which is like who cares, she just fucked and posted it anyone can do that.

having her get off on knowing exactly how to fuck you through the camera and consciously doing it looking right at you making you the focal point of her focus and connection, fully aware and embracing being a pure object of desire, that's a real artist and professional. Then the sandwich thing is having that object then reveal there was no 4th wall, the perfect object of desire is not out of reach but actually a part of your reality, whatever scene or performance was to tease you to remind you how great you've got it to actually have her for real. Her goal should be seducing you more than anything else, even if she knows you don't need to be. That seduction can look like anything but the focus is on the viewers response and satisfaction. The viewer is the object of her desire ultimately, not her pet dildo and not her cheap orgasm.

The reason most people hate porn stars is cuz they are prostitutes and not exhibitionists. They have no connection with the lens viewing, the lens is just there to feed her wallet. That makes for an unappealing object of desire not only unattainable but also parasitic in nature. She's not seducing you, rather shes finessing you. Hence porn scenes almost universally have the woman do something degrading to remind the viewer shes here to take nut on her forehead then walk with her 1500 dollars.

Sigh life goal discovered start a porn studio.
I've done some animations before, but my render rig is kind of weak (3rd gen i7), even with the RTX4060ti that I added a couple of months ago. Plus, they are not my passion, I suppose I could revisit making them when I upgrade the rig to i9 13/14xxx
 

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someone can share the Matt route save please? I cant play the route, idk how to get the route. Please share, thank you.
 

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I'm on the cuck route, but I can't seem to get past the scene where Riya flirts with Ethan at work, Ethan mentions his wife Nat, and Riya leaves. I see from the walkthrough that there is stuff after that, but for a couple of versions I can't get past that. Is it because I am loading saves from a preceding game? Do I have to start over? Or is there some other solution?
 
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