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strenif

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I didn't see these. I'm at the acquaintance level, is this friend or best friend level? It didn't even tell me there was something to miss.
The previews work like this

$1 SFW preview
$5 NSFW preview
$10 animation preview

These are some of the NFSW previews posted for this update.
 
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WillTylor

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The previews work like this

$1 SFW preview
$5 NSFW preview
$10 animation preview

These are some of the NFSW previews posted for this update.
That's how they work on SubscribeStar.
I've been trying to encourage Patreon supporters to move their support to SS for a while now by bumping up the tier for the same amount of money. So for example, on Patreon $1 get's you in the Acquaintance tier, but on SS $1 will get you into the friend tier. For $5 on Patreon you get into the Friend tier, but on SS $5 will get you into the Best Friend tier and so on...

On Patreon:
$5 SFW preveiw
$10 NSFW preview
$20 animation preview

On SubscribeStar
$1 SFW preview
$5 NSFW preview
$10 animation preview
 

Dogorti

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That's how they work on SubscribeStar.
I've been trying to encourage Patreon supporters to move their support to SS for a while now by bumping up the tier for the same amount of money. So for example, on Patreon $1 get's you in the Acquaintance tier, but on SS $1 will get you into the friend tier. For $5 on Patreon you get into the Friend tier, but on SS $5 will get you into the Best Friend tier and so on...

On Patreon:
$5 SFW preveiw
$10 NSFW preview
$20 animation preview

On SubscribeStar
$1 SFW preview
$5 NSFW preview
$10 animation preview
Well, support in SS has grown a bit lately or not?
 

doccop63

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That's how they work on SubscribeStar.
I've been trying to encourage Patreon supporters to move their support to SS for a while now by bumping up the tier for the same amount of money. So for example, on Patreon $1 get's you in the Acquaintance tier, but on SS $1 will get you into the friend tier. For $5 on Patreon you get into the Friend tier, but on SS $5 will get you into the Best Friend tier and so on...

On Patreon:
$5 SFW preveiw
$10 NSFW preview
$20 animation preview

On SubscribeStar
$1 SFW preview
$5 NSFW preview
$10 animation preview
It seems that you and SS are more practical than Patreon with supporters' money.
 

WillTylor

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Well, support in SS has grown a bit lately or not?
Yeah, actually we're just a few hundred dollars away from SS catching up to what we're making on Patreon.
It seems that you and SS are more practical than Patreon with supporters' money.
I really like Patreon as a platform. They've really done a ton to make the user and artists experience as intuitive and helpful as possible, but trying to jump through all their safety and standards hoops gives me so much extra work, and I'm limited from creating the game exactly how I want it. Their standards are so arbitrary between creators and so it ends up being really frustrating for any creator that's trying to operate on the very edge of their standards like I do. For this reason, I really appreciate Subscribestar and making the effort to make their creators more important to them than their payment processors. On Subscribestar I can post my game exactly as I intend it to be, and so I'm trying to move the majority of my support over there so that if one day Patreon shuts me down for good, it won't be a big deal.
 

doccop63

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Yeah, actually we're just a few hundred dollars away from SS catching up to what we're making on Patreon.

I really like Patreon as a platform. They've really done a ton to make the user and artists experience as intuitive and helpful as possible, but trying to jump through all their safety and standards hoops gives me so much extra work, and I'm limited from creating the game exactly how I want it. Their standards are so arbitrary between creators and so it ends up being really frustrating for any creator that's trying to operate on the very edge of their standards like I do. For this reason, I really appreciate Subscribestar and making the effort to make their creators more important to them than their payment processors. On Subscribestar I can post my game exactly as I intend it to be, and so I'm trying to move the majority of my support over there so that if one day Patreon shuts me down for good, it won't be a big deal.
And, trust me, many of us appreciate that. At least those of us who actually care about the details it takes to make the game and have some semblance of patience.
 

Darthy85

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Is there a gallery unlocker, as every time i start again, i always go loyalty route, i just cant share Jackie lol, went to the gallery and saw all those scene`s closed
 

strenif

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Is there a gallery unlocker, as every time i start again, i always go loyalty route, i just cant share Jackie lol, went to the gallery and saw all those scene`s closed
There is. Open Ryan's phone and click on the icon in the top right. You'll see it in the list.
 
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reidanota

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NTR is not fun, but loyal mode is fine.
Looking into this game for the first time, I read about the loyalty and the NTR paths and how there's much more content for the loyalty path than for the NTR path. How exactly does this work - will the NTR path add its NTR scenes, but also block content from the loyalty path, so that you end up getting less content overall? Or does it mean that there is simply more non NTR content than NTR content in the game, but if you select NTR you just get extra scenes, or a variant of those scenes, but the amount of content you get overall is pretty much the same?

I guess what I mean to ask is whether the game branches into two independent paths, mainly without shared scenes, or if the NTR toggle (also read there's a button on the phone to toggle paths) just changes some scenes, without having a different story or leading towards different endings?

One of the most frustrating thing about the way people leave reviews.... a lot of the reviews aren't reviews at all but rather tantrums about someone not getting their preferences.
I'm looking for games where NTR is "just a feature" that can happen in the game, that doesn't necessarily come out as a punishment for obviously bad player choices and the LI doesn't lose interest in the player afterwards (player wins them back, forgives cheating and moves on, etc)
 
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Handifap

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Looking into this game for the first time, I read about the loyalty and the NTR paths and how there's much more content for the loyalty path than for the NTR path. How exactly does this work - will the NTR path add its NTR scenes, but also block content from the loyalty path, so that you end up getting less content overall? Or does it mean that there is simply more non NTR content than NTR content in the game, but if you select NTR you just get extra scenes, or a variant of those scenes, but the amount of content you get overall is pretty much the same?

I guess what I mean to ask is whether the game branches into two independent paths, mainly without shared scenes, or if the NTR toggle (also read there's a button on the phone to toggle paths) just changes some scenes, without having a different story or leading towards different endings?



I'm looking for games where NTR is "just a feature" that can happen in the game, that doesn't necessarily come out as a punishment for obviously bad player choices and the LI doesn't lose interest in the player afterwards (player wins them back, forgives cheating and moves on, etc)
To clarify Modsarenotvirgins' reply, the NTR path is largely dependent on how well you take care of the LI's, and has almost nothing to do with where else you happen to be schlicking you schtick. The MC can be as morally corrupt as you would like as long as you don't make choices that negatively affect the LI's, and you'll avoid the NTR content. At no point (after far more playthroughs than I care to admit) have I encountered a situation where the LI's "lose interest" in the MC (possibly on account of his egregiously enormous erections [I apparently alliterate after a few drinks]).
I would say that the "extra" amount of NTR content is purely due to having more participating characters in those scenarios. The primary story, itself, doesn't diverge dependent on whether or not Matt (fuck Matt) bangs your sister. There is still a linear core to the story. As the game so far does not (and hopefully almost never will) have an "ending," I would say that the NTR/Loyalty paths are fairly equal, and largely play more of a role in the individual players' satisfaction with the sequence of events and who puts whose oversized Tab A into whose shockingly tight Slot B.
 
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reidanota

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To clarify Modsarenotvirgins' reply, the NTR path is largely dependent on how well you take care of the LI's, and has almost nothing to do with where else you happen to be schlicking you schtick. The MC can be as morally corrupt as you would like as long as you don't make choices that negatively affect the LI's, and you'll avoid the NTR content. At no point (after far more playthroughs than I care to admit) have I encountered a situation where the LI's "lose interest" in the MC (possibly on account of his egregiously enormous erections [I apparently alliterate after a few drinks]).
I would say that the "extra" amount of NTR content is purely due to having more participating characters in those scenarios. The primary story, itself, doesn't diverge dependent on whether or not Matt (fuck Matt) bangs your sister. There is still a linear core to the story. As the game so far does not (and hopefully almost never will) have an "ending," I would say that the NTR/Loyalty paths are fairly equal, and largely play more of a role in the individual players' satisfaction with the sequence of events and who puts whose oversized Tab A into whose shockingly tight Slot B.
That's pretty thorough, thanks. I wish you could have a more neutral path, that is, not really being a dick to your LIs but perhaps neglecting to give them as much attention as they want? Which is easy if the game allows you to pursue multiple LIs, right? Relationships rolling more or less like: you're attempting to woo every girl in the game, but simply can't be everywhere at any time and you end up being NTR'd. If this is sort of what the game lets you do, I wouldn't say its NTR is all punishment. And since you mention that the game doesn't have an ending (and hopefully never will?) would it be possible to still fuck the LIs that cheat on you, by managing relationship levels if needed? And whether Matt banging sister, and other NTR arcs that there may be, can be reversed/exited later on, if you start giving your LIs what they want/deserve.
 

doccop63

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That's pretty thorough, thanks. I wish you could have a more neutral path, that is, not really being a dick to your LIs but perhaps neglecting to give them as much attention as they want? Which is easy if the game allows you to pursue multiple LIs, right? Relationships rolling more or less like: you're attempting to woo every girl in the game, but simply can't be everywhere at any time and you end up being NTR'd. If this is sort of what the game lets you do, I wouldn't say its NTR is all punishment. And since you mention that the game doesn't have an ending (and hopefully never will?) would it be possible to still fuck the LIs that cheat on you, by managing relationship levels if needed? And whether Matt banging sister, and other NTR arcs that there may be, can be reversed/exited later on, if you start giving your LIs what they want/deserve.
Will Tylor can answer that btter than anyone
 

Handifap

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That's pretty thorough, thanks. I wish you could have a more neutral path, that is, not really being a dick to your LIs but perhaps neglecting to give them as much attention as they want? Which is easy if the game allows you to pursue multiple LIs, right? Relationships rolling more or less like: you're attempting to woo every girl in the game, but simply can't be everywhere at any time and you end up being NTR'd. If this is sort of what the game lets you do, I wouldn't say its NTR is all punishment. And since you mention that the game doesn't have an ending (and hopefully never will?) would it be possible to still fuck the LIs that cheat on you, by managing relationship levels if needed? And whether Matt banging sister, and other NTR arcs that there may be, can be reversed/exited later on, if you start giving your LIs what they want/deserve.
In many ways, I absolutely agree with the desire to have a game with that level of nuanced relationship possibilities, but from a development standpoint, that would be an absolute nightmare to attempt. Put (very) simply, every time a choice was made (or not made), two new story paths would have to branch off, including two sets of unique scene renders (with some crossover, of course), and then if a certain choice is only available on one of those paths, two new sets of everything would need to be done there, ad nauseum, until the story paths merged back together, but the variables would still need to be tracked and interactions and choice possibilities would constantly need to be checked throughout the primary storyline.
It's kind of a two-sided coin. On the one hand, sandbox games are awesome for the players, because it gives them agency in how the story is told, which lends to immersion where we become part of the story instead of just having it told to us. On the other hand, every choice the developer decides to put into the hands of the player has the chance of geometrically increasing the complexity of what needs to go into the game.
As an aside, I just say that I hope AFV never has an ending, because it is, in my personal opinion, one of the best sandbox AVNs out there and I would love to see it grow and expand for years to come, because there is still so much untapped story potential just waiting to find its sexy time in the sun ;)
 
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