Ren'Py A Family Venture [v0.09 v3 Alpha] [WillTylor]

[strenif]

would be nice if a single (not even complitly obvious) choice would not determine the entire playthrough of a main character. kind of takes away a lot of agensi from the MC. i mean. if this is rly all that it takes for jacky to stop giving a fu** about her own son who is trying his best to pay of the dept.. i dont know this just fells rly of. i mean i can get the ntr route in the club if mc does not pay money on time. but how much of a slut jacky becomes just couse you pick this one option "wrong" feels rly off puting as an old school incest fan. does she even see any of them as her children?

Jacky's NTR path was basically the first option put into the game back when WT was just starting out.
There's a couple of spots where you're given a chance to back out of the NTR option before you get locked into it.
(getting caught in Jacky's office for example)

That said, we do want to redo that section of the game and at a minimum, change the dialog to make it crystal clear that Matt is not your buddy.

In a perfect world we could spend more time on it and work out an actual system more akin to what happened in Lauren's story. But we'd have to pause making new content to go back and hash that out.

Might be something we talk about doing between Cami and Diaz's updates.

 

[strenif]

Yeah I kinda of agree - one choice that early on in the game that determines Incest or NTR - should be reversable as an option later in the game.

Will is going to put in a NTR redemption arch where Ryan can win the girls back. But that won't happen until Diaz's update.

 

[Simmons711]

Will is going to put in a NTR redemption arch where Ryan can win the girls back. But that won't happen until Diaz's update.

Oh! Now that's a fun turn! Love the concept of Ryan winning them back. Lotta fun possibilities with that. This game updates slow, but the developers seem to know what they are doing.

 

[lalarpzd]

The yard scene with Sidney will be added in the next update.

As for the NTR stuff, it sounds like you don't want to be on the NTR path?
All thous scenes with Matt or Joey only happen if you picked the NTR path with Jacky early on in the game.
If you were looking for more of a Harem route, you'd have needed to tell Matt to fuck off when he asks you about fucking Jacky.

There will be a redemption option for NTR players later down the road, but we haven't gotten there yet.

The backyard chores event with Mandy is bugged in the version you're playing. She starts watering the garden with Cami in the last update.
We released a fix to supporters that was never leaked here.

a small ammount of NTR is ok for the begining say when MC does not pay the dept Jacky has to go screw the mafia or something. but when MC is doing great all for the girls in the house and clearly working his arse off to please his mother Jacky becoming embodiment of worst slut that can ever be and not caring about the son in the game concept only one who can give her proper orgasm is kinda off the mark even for a game where NTR might be one of the main route of the game. there should have been many redemption choices for jacky to and the game hinted that in jackies thoughts but she never takes any action and continues to ignore her son and fks every other dude she stumbles on. and if i remember that matt suggesting to screw his mom and help MC to get into her pants is kinda very early on maybe players who had been playing the game 15-20 times may figure that out but average players wont even suspect that one simple choice to start MC's journey to get intimate with his lovely mother will only make him further away and make the game 100% NTR with no regards of any other action is kinda dull. Im not against NTR but kinda feels bit too much and game only going into 1 direction without any choice or chance to go into other direction is little bit sad. wish the game will add more redemption or turning point choices for the girls and reward the MC for his actions and start to truly appreciate who he is for them.

 

[strenif]

Dude. You've got to use paragraphs.

 

[doccop63]

Dude. You've got to use paragraphs.

And caps to start a new sentence. Sheesh.

 

[Daveiy]

Jacky's NTR path was basically the first option put into the game back when WT was just starting out.
There's a couple of spots where you're given a chance to back out of the NTR option before you get locked into it.
(getting caught in Jacky's office for example)

That said, we do want to redo that section of the game and at a minimum, change the dialog to make it crystal clear that Matt is not your buddy.

In a perfect world we could spend more time on it and work out an actual system more akin to what happened in Lauren's story. But we'd have to pause making new content to go back and hash that out.

Might be something we talk about doing between Cami and Diaz's updates.

is that really necessary?
i mean if people would read properly they would understand which action would lead to ntr and which not.
there is a reason to call it a PATH.

 

[Kolya4677]

the game is going too slowly, sex only happened with sydney, with jackie and lauren this is not expected, I am going along the path of loyalty, but it looks like I will have to go through an election campaign, sex with lauren is probably only there..

 

[lalarpzd]

is that really necessary?
i mean if people would read properly they would understand which action would lead to ntr and which not.
there is a reason to call it a PATH.

what people dont know is that one choice 50/50 will end up building a whole gameplay and story + plot evertything and forces MC to watch helplessly as his mother fks everymen around her except her son that she herself admits only one can give her proper orgasm. there should have been some choices midgame that can redirect the gameplay into loyal path or something. even after the dept payment is now no problem jacky is still going on her own free will to fk the mafia boss and any other customer she stumbles upon and during daytime she goes fks matt and possibly all male students except ofcuz her son again she happily admits the real man in her life. NTR is ok to be there since it is sadly a part of real life but its just the way game goes is kinda forcing the players into the theme that they might not want. and im pretty sure almost more than half the players out there are not happy with almost explicity NTR stuff in this game but still playing trying different paths. personally i dont mind jacky going around fking everyone but in return her character needs more scenes and choices where she and MC would go on lovey dovey and she truly cares and gives herself to him and gets the pleasure she seeks from him time to time but there are no such scenes or even repeatables

 

[strenif]

I'm really sorry man. But you've got to start using punctuation.

I can't read I giant wall of text like that.

 

[doccop63]

I'm really sorry man. But you've got to start using punctuation.

I can't read I giant wall of text like that.

Ikr??? It hurts both my eyes and my brain trying to decipher. Hadn't tried to do decription since my days in the military decades ago.

 

[Daveiy]

what people dont know is that one choice 50/50 will end up building a whole gameplay and story + plot evertything and forces MC to watch helplessly as his mother fks everymen around her except her son that she herself admits only one can give her proper orgasm. there should have been some choices midgame that can redirect the gameplay into loyal path or something. even after the dept payment is now no problem jacky is still going on her own free will to fk the mafia boss and any other customer she stumbles upon and during daytime she goes fks matt and possibly all male students except ofcuz her son again she happily admits the real man in her life. NTR is ok to be there since it is sadly a part of real life but its just the way game goes is kinda forcing the players into the theme that they might not want. and im pretty sure almost more than half the players out there are not happy with almost explicity NTR stuff in this game but still playing trying different paths. personally i dont mind jacky going around fking everyone but in return her character needs more scenes and choices where she and MC would go on lovey dovey and she truly cares and gives herself to him and gets the pleasure she seeks from him time to time but there are no such scenes or even repeatables

i understand what you mean and i choosed the loyality path and for a little fun the ntr path for lauren.
for me it was clear to see if i gave matt the chance i would loose jacky. didnt even know there was such a big ratt-tail behind.. for me it looks like a penalty if you choose to betray jacky and beeing not loyal to her.

you get what you choose. and if you're not happy with your decision well start over and think before choosing..
no front though just my opinion. this game is not for kids..

and to interfere with the active develpopment and instead redo stuff (which is clearly to understand) because some people dont understand the game is not necessary imho..

 

[JohnGlenn]

I recently restarted both because I seem to have been on the NTR route and I wanted to earn the cards I missed by completing the scenes that give them before they were added to the game. The first route I was using the in phone hints to figure out what to do and was all over the place with my tasks.

So for this one, I have been following a walkthrough and recently gotten to the first date with Jacky. It triggered the beach event and now she is avoiding me. While I know that is by design, I didn't think it would happen until after I finished all six of the dates. And because she is avoiding me, the other events that the walkthrough says are to happen, don't.

Is there a way to fix that, or do I just have to wait?

 

[strenif]

I recently restarted both because I seem to have been on the NTR route and I wanted to earn the cards I missed by completing the scenes that give them before they were added to the game. The first route I was using the in phone hints to figure out what to do and was all over the place with my tasks.

So for this one, I have been following a walkthrough and recently gotten to the first date with Jacky. It triggered the beach event and now she is avoiding me. While I know that is by design, I didn't think it would happen until after I finished all six of the dates. And because she is avoiding me, the other events that the walkthrough says are to happen, don't.

Is there a way to fix that, or do I just have to wait?

You've got to keep trying to find her.

I think it's four time you have to see her avoiding you before you can move that event to the next stage where you talk to Mandy at night.

You can look for her in her room early morning, breakfast early morning, her office in the afternoon, after paying Joey on the weekend.

The goal was to show the player that Jacky was avoiding the player, but we could have done a better job of presenting that to the player.

 

[lalarpzd]

i understand what you mean and i choosed the loyality path and for a little fun the ntr path for lauren.
for me it was clear to see if i gave matt the chance i would loose jacky. didnt even know there was such a big ratt-tail behind.. for me it looks like a penalty if you choose to betray jacky and beeing not loyal to her.

you get what you choose. and if you're not happy with your decision well start over and think before choosing..
no front though just my opinion. this game is not for kids..

and to interfere with the active develpopment and instead redo stuff (which is clearly to understand) because some people dont understand the game is not necessary imho..

yeah i understand that and if i did not like the game probably would not come to this thread posting my opinions. and i mentioned in my posts that i dont mind the NTR's its just the way they are going is kinda single road without any possibilities of diverting. and the mentioned early choice is that MC had clear thought if i remember that he would use matt to get to her mom then find a way to diss him. so that made the choice kinda blur in regards of NTR if the choice stated yeah let matt screw mom so that i can too would made the choice clear. and im not complaining just by reading the posts about this situation and the way my playthroughs ended with current version it was clear that NTRs were non reversable single choice path.

 

[Kolya4677]

You've got to keep trying to find her.

I think it's four time you have to see her avoiding you before you can move that event to the next stage where you talk to Mandy at night.

You can look for her in her room early morning, breakfast early morning, her office in the afternoon, after paying Joey on the weekend.

The goal was to show the player that Jacky was avoiding the player, but we could have done a better job of presenting that to the player.

why does she avoid the main character? by doing this she complicates life and the game...

 

[Kolya4677]

I don't quite agree with the walkthrough, if you keep the money for yourself, Lauren's subordination will increase, this is necessary for photo shoots...

 

[Kolya4677]

and if i don't want to start the christmas event...

 

[strenif]

why does she avoid the main character? by doing this she complicates life and the game...

Because she just had sex with her son.

She's unconformable with what happened and it's not till after Cami's big fuck up that she can finally accept what she and Ryan have done.

You can knock the event out in two days. Kicking of Cami's event the night of the second day.

 

[Kolya4677]

Because she just had sex with her son.

She's unconformable with what happened and it's not till after Cami's big fuck up that she can finally accept what she and Ryan have done.

You can knock the event out in two days. Kicking of Cami's event the night of the second day.

old fool, making life difficult for herself, she has 0 brains...