A gay element in netorare

[desmosome]

My obsession with NTR is to see the woman I love, who has made vows and promises to love me, be faithful and share a life with me, throw it all away for pleasure, see her succumb to depravity and corruption, see her take dominant role and exploiting my true love for her for her own benefit.
It's not about another man in the relationship, it's about her bringing another man into her life because she can, because she wants to, because she knows I don't have the strength to fight everything she does.
It's about my heart and mind being broken in the madness of her actions. The acceptance of everything she does wrong to me as a form of love. The misrepresentation of what true love should be, the abuse on it.
And if there is a homosexual element, it is for the humiliation that she wants me to go through, as proof that she has all the power in her hands and that I will obey her no matter what.

This is how I feel about Netorare.

The rare self inserting NTR fan. You should go on Dr. Phil.

 

[slightchance]

But it is also possible to be consumed by them, and go all the way down the rabbit hole, searching for ever more depraved things. And at some point you may find that ordinary IRL sex doesn't excite you anymore, compared to the fetish of your choice in porn games.

I still like vanilla sex though and cuddling is even more important. I more into netrorase actually but f95 doesn't make the distinction with its labels. Corruption, rape, bimbofication and all those other extreme kinks are more rewarding to me when all the participants come to enjoy it in the end one way or the other.

The thought of a woman becoming the sex driven animal we men are is exciting to me (loss of her princess status). The male partner is just a proxy who's unlocking her libido in ways we, as the player, aren't able to. That's why the homosexual element in NTR (netorare/netorase) games is negligible I think. Unless you want to take your partners place instead. Then it gets a bit more complicated.

 

[Deleted member 4438703]

The thought of a woman becoming the sex driven animal we men are is exciting to me (loss of her princess status). The male partner is just a proxy who's unlocking her libido in ways we, as the player, aren't able to.

I can't agree more.

 

[yihman1]

I always wanted to see a cuck game that goes like this:

Normal cuck game, and the female fucks half the guys in town... One day one leaves some money one her side table and she is like "What is that for?" Turns out her "Cuck" was her "Pimp".

I can respect a Pimp more than a Cuck.

 

[Icarus Media]

I always wanted to see a cuck game that goes like this:

Normal cuck game, and the female fucks half the guys in town... One day one leaves some money one her side table and she is like "What is that for?" Turns out her "Cuck" was her "Pimp".

I can respect a Pimp more than a Cuck.

I always wanted to make a harem game, the prologue shows a thin, twinky looking guy with glasses, pens in his shirt pocket, type of guy who can't open a Soy milk bottle but he has a 10/10 smoking hot girlfriend somehow. You name this character and play through the prologue as this character. At the end of the prologue, you catch this muscle Zyzz looking guy fucking the girl, it fades to black and then the game reveals that this Zyzz looking guy is actually the main character and the person you will be playing to amass a complete harem.

it would be interesting to see whether the change of perspective would make any difference to the harem guys, because they hate being cucked but they don't mind cuckolding others so....

 

[Yngling]

I always wanted to make a harem game, the prologue shows a thin, twinky looking guy with glasses, pens in his shirt pocket, type of guy who can't open a Soy milk bottle but he has a 10/10 smoking hot girlfriend somehow. You name this character and play through the prologue as this character. At the end of the prologue, you catch this muscle Zyzz looking guy fucking the girl, it fades to black and then the game reveals that this Zyzz looking guy is actually the main character and the person you will be playing to amass a complete harem.

it would be interesting to see whether the change of perspective would make any difference to the harem guys, because they hate being cucked but they don't mind cuckolding others so....

The Last Sovereign kind of does that, but the other way around.
At first, you play the stereotypical hero, who gets killed to reveal that the real MC is an older mentor type. The real MC, at first glance, can't hold a candle to the initial hero, but turns out to be way more powerful.

 

[Deleted member 4438703]

I always wanted to see a cuck game that goes like this:

Normal cuck game, and the female fucks half the guys in town... One day one leaves some money one her side table and she is like "What is that for?" Turns out her "Cuck" was her "Pimp".

I can respect a Pimp more than a Cuck.

He is more cuck than Pimp. I would love to play this game too, even better if you could buy her clothes, make ups, rubbers, etc, without her knowing you know her to fuck around, and then tailing her and taking photos of her cheating.
You gave me a great idea to make a game, maybe I can turn it into reality.

 

[Chinel]

Regarding NTR?
I will tell some impressions I got from a game.

"Thrash...Lotia...we were already over it! I give you two my blessings...now...CAN YOU STOP CHASING ME!?"
"No, I need to tie you down so you can see me fucking Lotia!"
"And you need to see how dirty I am, Imos!"
"Look...there is other people who would do that, people who get paid to do that! I sent you two 1000 proposals and you still come to nag on me!"
"I need you to see me NUDE fucking LOTIA! I must ASSERT MY DOMINANCE on you!"
"...dude, I am not even dating her, what are you talking about?"
"...s-shut up! I-I need you twink cute ass to see me having sex with her, fuck!"
"Ah...got it. You are BI."

Summarizing? I think there is also an desire to have a couple, it is just not demonstrated.
But the obsession NTR Antags have with the protags is quite weird, why would you want a man watch you nude...if it is not you showing him your goods?

 

[zilkin]

Regarding NTR?
I will tell some impressions I got from a game.

"Thrash...Lotia...we were already over it! I give you two my blessings...now...CAN YOU STOP CHASING ME!?"
"No, I need to tie you down so you can see me fucking Lotia!"
"And you need to see how dirty I am, Imos!"
"Look...there is other people who would do that, people who get paid to do that! I sent you two 1000 proposals and you still come to nag on me!"
"I need you to see me NUDE fucking LOTIA! I must ASSERT MY DOMINANCE on you!"
"...dude, I am not even dating her, what are you talking about?"
"...s-shut up! I-I need you twink cute ass to see me having sex with her, fuck!"
"Ah...got it. You are BI."

Summarizing? I think there is also an desire to have a couple, it is just not demonstrated.
But the obsession NTR Antags have with the protags is quite weird, why would you want a man watch you nude...if it is not you showing him your goods?

Yea its fuckin gay lol. I love NTR tho so what does that say about me? I'm subconsciously gay.

 

[EvilLadyKitten]

I have been thinking about this when I was writing my netorare game, that there is an underlying gay element to netorare (or could be just me). I was writing from the point of the view of the fat ugly bastard who is about to steal the girl and he was commenting on how sexy she is and how the cute boy she is with doesn't deserve her. How he is gonna make him cry and so on... I don't remember the exact details but the point was it was as much about the boy almost as it was about the girl.
That is when I realised there is a gay element to netorare which is making yourself submissive if you are a cuck or making the other guy submissive if you are a bull. There doesn't have to be direct sex involved but it is still pretty gay psychologically.
What are your opinions?
Similar to gay sex in prisons to assert dominance, in netorare the villain is not directly fucking the guy but indirectly through his girl as the extension of the guy who is being cucked. So there is a homoerotic dimension here, in my opinion.

Pretty much as a bull I get turned on for both partners and I would like to be able to fuck both but not many cucks have understand yet that they are bi so it's is what it is

 

[Chinel]

Yea its fuckin gay lol. I love NTR tho so what does that say about me? I'm subconsciously gay.

Honestly I would read a NTR where it starts as one...then it ends in full blow threesome, where dunno, people are not keen on who gets fucked. I say that as a joke, but hey, why not? Sounds less boring and it breaks the norm.

 

[JoleenStar]

I feel like some people look for 'justification' in porn too much, or need to let others know a certain kink is unliked going so far as to go into a game thread to let everyone else know their stance on it. (I've even done this sometimes, so I understand I'm a hypocrite.)

I don't particularly care to play armchair therapist and try to dig into the whys or whatever. This is some weird entitlement that a lot of you would be happier if you just let go of.

No one needs to justify to anyone why they like something (the something being unharmful to others) and they certainly do not need to cater to anyone's tastes either.

Gay, not gay, all homo, no homo. In the end we're all masturbating to pixels.

We're all going to hell.

 

[EvilLadyKitten]

I feel like some people look for 'justification' in porn too much, or need to let others know a certain kink is unliked going so far as to go into a game thread to let everyone else know their stance on it. (I've even done this sometimes, so I understand I'm a hypocrite.)

I don't particularly care to play armchair therapist and try to dig into the whys or whatever. This is some weird entitlement that a lot of you would be happier if you just let go of.

No one needs to justify to anyone why they like something (the something being unharmful to others) and they certainly do not need to cater to anyone's tastes either.

Gay, not gay, all homo, no homo. In the end we're all masturbating to pixels.

We're all going to hell.

Yes but at least I am a defender that you need to be true to your emotions and admitting that Netorare fans are bisexual that don't admit they want to be dominated by a man it's very harmful for them , at least they should be honest with their feelings and accept that they want their asses filled too and enjoy it

 

[ChadChan3D]

I have been thinking about this when I was writing my netorare game, that there is an underlying gay element to netorare (or could be just me). I was writing from the point of the view of the fat ugly bastard who is about to steal the girl and he was commenting on how sexy she is and how the cute boy she is with doesn't deserve her. How he is gonna make him cry and so on... I don't remember the exact details but the point was it was as much about the boy almost as it was about the girl.
That is when I realised there is a gay element to netorare which is making yourself submissive if you are a cuck or making the other guy submissive if you are a bull. There doesn't have to be direct sex involved but it is still pretty gay psychologically.
What are your opinions?
Similar to gay sex in prisons to assert dominance, in netorare the villain is not directly fucking the guy but indirectly through his girl as the extension of the guy who is being cucked. So there is a homoerotic dimension here, in my opinion.

It's less gay and more about pain and pleasure:

• Gloating as a conquerer over another man = Pleasurable.
• Suffering indignity and humiliation = Pain.

Being gay is about having an attraction to the same sex, and neither male wants to fuck the other male in these scenarios.

They seek to cause pain or to feel pleasure; NTR is sadomasochism, not homosexuality.

 

[fregreger]

I like this. Fat man cucks MC's girlfriend, only for MC to cuck fat man from his girlfriend when she starts enjoying it and then the girlfriend cucks the MC from the fat man only for the fat man to cuck him back, leaving everyone incredibly confused

 

[EvilLadyKitten]

It's less gay and more about pain and pleasure:

• Gloating as a conquerer over another man = Pleasurable.
• Suffering indignity and humiliation = Pain.

Being gay is about having an attraction to the same sex, and neither male wants to fuck the other male in these scenarios.

They seek to cause pain or to feel pleasure; NTR is sadomasochism, not homosexuality.

Is homosexual sadomasochism then

 

[Rafster]

Is homosexual sadomasochism then

If anyone is into that, I can recommend my game, it has many scenes about that [End of shameless self advertising]

Are you guys still arguing about this? If you like dick, don't be ashamed. you add more games to play here!

 

[whizwart]

As a general concept, I think NTR is usually more about the power of taking something so precious from someone else, but that doesn't mean there can't be gay elements. Plenty of stuff out there has NTR combined with sissification and bi/gay dominance sex.

 

[EvilLadyKitten]

If anyone is into that, I can recommend my game, it has many scenes about that [End of shameless self advertising]

Are you guys still arguing about this? If you like dick, don't be ashamed. you add more games to play here!

See? I agree they need to losen up and admit it just so they can enjoy it

 

[JoleenStar]

Yes but at least I am a defender that you need to be true to your emotions and admitting that Netorare fans are bisexual that don't admit they want to be dominated by a man it's very harmful for them , at least they should be honest with their feelings and accept that they want their asses filled too and enjoy it

Entitlement. No one here has to admit anything to YOU about anything.