Ren'Py A House in the Rift [v0.7.17] [Zanith]

[segaegae]

one of the girls had experience before meeting MC and considered that NTR because it was not only implied but also mentioned in dialogue. If that does disturb you as well, that would indeed be a problem, but as somebody who generally dislikes NTR I would say I have no problem with this. Especially because it is not NTR at all in my book that characters existed before game start.

I believe she has already made this point very clear in the very beginning, the second day to be precise:

And more than once in fact:

 

[sillyrobot]

OMG did I miss some juicy drama? Who said what I wanna read. Unless they/the mods deleted everything in which case it's a bummer.

Nonetheless what led people to believe Rae's arc has anything to do with NTR? I just finished the last update and it's pretty much going the same way it's been going for a while now.

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Like the cliche line goes: "She started the healing process"

But from that to "We're getting NTR'D BOYYYYYZ!" is a long way. She has an (presumably) Ex-Lover that meant more to her than most of the other Ex-Lovers? Ok? We're literally boning the entire house and some of the friends of said people. Hell if anyone felt NTRed is Cait when she saw us with her friend back at the academy.

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On another note we need more Goth Lyriel and Noir Cait because that Mascara is probably haunted by some very fine ladies that could teach those 2 the truth about the universe.

Much of the conversation was deleted. My paraphrase of the other side goes something like this:

"The dev shouldn't tell us anything about Rae's previous escapades! I may know Rae has a past, but I don't want to have my face rubbed in it! That's tantamount to the kink that may not be mentioned!"

 

[segaegae]

Much of the conversation was deleted. My paraphrase of the other side goes something like this:

"The dev shouldn't tell us anything about Rae's previous escapades! I may know Rae has a past, but I don't want to have my face rubbed in it! That's tantamount to the kink that may not be mentioned!"

I believe it is probably someone think the succubus rae tried to contact was her lesbian ex and she wants to start again...

In any case, it seems that it is okay for MC to run a harem right under rae's nose, but it is too much for rae to contact some of her old friend/sister/coworker. Now where is the feminist when you need one...

Though I personally prefer rae's previous story line. Lady Sirenia is in many way just like rae's mother, if that actually means anything for a succubus. I don't know why dev drops it, and rae never ever talk about her lady again...

 

[Dunner]

Much of the conversation was deleted. My paraphrase of the other side goes something like this:

"The dev shouldn't tell us anything about Rae's previous escapades! I may know Rae has a past, but I don't want to have my face rubbed in it! That's tantamount to the kink that may not be mentioned!"

I see. So I'm assuming the conversation went from the simply "I don't like that aspect of the story" comment to going back and forth vehemently defending one's POV until it became offtopic xD

Thanks for the catch-up (Is that how you'd say it? I hope it is.).

I believe it is probably someone think the succubus rae tried to contact was her lesbian ex and she wants to start again...

In any case, it seems that it is okay for MC to run a harem right under rae's nose, but it is too much for rae to contact some of her old friend/sister/coworker. Now where is the feminist when you need one...

Though I personally prefer rae's previous story line. Lady Sirenia is in many way just like rae's mother, if that actually means anything for a succubus. I don't know why dev drops it, and rae never ever talk about her lady again...

I don't believe the story was dropped it's just at the point where Rae chooses to ignore what her Teacher said (aka "I'm OK Rae so don't meddle in my business") and is trying to find a way to help her in some way. This is how it all started after all. She was sad that her Teacher doesn't want her help and after we talk with her she comes to the conclusion that even if her Teacher said she want's no help she'll help her anyway.

 

[segaegae]

I see. So I'm assuming the conversation went from the simply "I don't like that aspect of the story" comment to going back and forth vehemently defending one's POV until it became offtopic xD

Thanks for the catch-up (Is that how you'd say it? I hope it is.).


I don't believe the story was dropped it's just at the point where Rae chooses to ignore what her Teacher said (aka "I'm OK Rae so don't meddle in my business") and is trying to find a way to help her in some way. This is how it all started after all. She was sad that her Teacher doesn't want her help and after we talk with her she comes to the conclusion that even if her Teacher said she want's no help she'll help her anyway.

So you mean rae is actually trying to find out something from some other source? that makes sense, especially rae raraly makes her intention clear. But she could have choose someone with less history?

 

[sillyrobot]

I see. So I'm assuming the conversation went from the simply "I don't like that aspect of the story" comment to going back and forth vehemently defending one's POV until it became offtopic xD

Thanks for the catch-up (Is that how you'd say it? I hope it is.).

I thought it was mostly respectful dialogue though positions were somewhat hardened. I lost one reply and second makes absolutely no sense in isolation, but a bunch of ancillary discussions remained.

I don't believe the story was dropped it's just at the point where Rae chooses to ignore what her Teacher said (aka "I'm OK Rae so don't meddle in my business") and is trying to find a way to help her in some way. This is how it all started after all. She was sad that her Teacher doesn't want her help and after we talk with her she comes to the conclusion that even if her Teacher said she want's no help she'll help her anyway.

I suspect Rae is trying to discover what is going on to begin with. One cannot provide help if one doesn't know what help might be valuable. If Sirenia doesn't want to provide information and Rae is trapped in the house, Rae needs to find a contact she can work with.

 

[sillyrobot]

So you mean rae is actually trying to find out something from some other source? that makes sense, especially rae raraly makes her intention clear. But she could have choose someone with less history?

A contact needs several things: a latent desire to help you, a position where relevant information can be collected, and being generally allied with the same side/tribe/what-have-you.

I haven't played this update (and probably won't until at least one more drops), but the contact probably has all three.

Additionally, Rae may be trying to build fences/make amends to someone from her past she fears she treated poorly.

 

[Biscardone]

Short version: Somebody threw a fit because one of the girls had experience before meeting MC and considered that NTR because it was not only implied but also mentioned in dialogue. If that does disturb you as well, that would indeed be a problem, but as somebody who generally dislikes NTR I would say I have no problem with this. Especially because it is not NTR at all in my book that characters existed before game start.

NTR, due to overuse, over-sensitivity and over-polarization, has become one of those words that has completely lost its meaning, and became a free-for-all void of significance. It can span from bonafide cuckoldry, to cheating, to mere jealousy, all depending on the speaker. It's both infuriating and extenuating.

 

[TigerWolfe]

NTR, due to overuse, over-sensitivity and over-polarization, has become one of those words that has completely lost its meaning, and became a free-for-all void of significance. It can span from bonafide cuckoldry, to cheating, to mere jealousy, all depending on the speaker. It's both infuriating and extenuating.

Shit for some of the goobs here just the existence of a non-MC man equals NTR.

 

[Evil13]

Additionally, Rae may be trying to build fences/make amends to someone from her past she fears she treated poorly.

That is a likely scenario. Though it might also be a case that what happened with Lady Sirenia has give Rae something to reflect upon, or it might have put a previous action with another person in a different light.

Anyway, going back to the discussion about Rae's past, it was never rammed down our throats, it was brought up when appropriate. Yes, Rae has a past and it would be idiotic to believe otherwise. Nor does her past change that she is falling for the MC and pretty damn hard. It might be an escape from her life and her past, but its more than likely genuine for her. She seems happier in the house and in the MC's world. Rae's past is important, but so is her future with the MC, a fact the people who hate NTR seem to forget.

 

[Dunner]

So you mean rae is actually trying to find out something from some other source? that makes sense, especially rae raraly makes her intention clear. But she could have choose someone with less history?

In this case I don't believe so. It's explained that Rie is (or was) one of Rae's most competent and trusted allies/confidants/lovers. It's obvious that this journey of hers is about closure as well but even without this need for closure it makes sense that she would look for the most capable person to solve her problem as fast as possible.

1. I thought it was mostly respectful dialogue though positions were somewhat hardened. I lost one reply and second makes absolutely no sense in isolation, but a bunch of ancillary discussions remained.

2. I suspect Rae is trying to discover what is going on to begin with. One cannot provide help if one doesn't know what help might be valuable. If Sirenia doesn't want to provide information and Rae is trapped in the house, Rae needs to find a contact she can work with.

1. Then color me surprised. Most times you see deleted messages someone goes down the deep end just to defend their point and ends up acting like a toddler.
Hmmm, then I'm assuming that the discussions continued for 2-3 pages since that's the only other reason I saw a mod delete a chain of messages like that. Either that or the user deleted them for some reason.

2. My thoughts exactly. And what better contact than your long estranged sister/ex that is close (if not equal) to you in knowledge and skill. This point is explained even better with the new content but I won't spoil anything for you.
(Sorry for already spoiling stuff)

NTR, due to overuse, over-sensitivity and over-polarization, has become one of those words that has completely lost its meaning, and became a free-for-all void of significance. It can span from bonafide cuckoldry, to cheating, to mere jealousy, all depending on the speaker. It's both infuriating and extenuating.

Yeah that's the problem with tagging terms like that. It's used in a very liberal way on many sites so some people started to assume that everything not involving the MC is NTR.

Remember that dream Naomi had where we saw how she banged someone in the past? NTR.
This is why I like having this image handy to explain ALL the things that are NTR (If anyone needs it to explain stuff save it like I did):

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[Cartageno]

I thought it was mostly respectful dialogue though positions were somewhat hardened. I lost one reply and second makes absolutely no sense in isolation, but a bunch of ancillary discussions remained.

Well, unfortunately I am not under that impression since one side repeatedly told others he blocked them because he only communicates with what they called "intelligent people". Of course since I was part of the other side (and possibly blocked) I am somewhat partisan in my assessment.

 

[uavxxx]

Made a Gallery Unlocker Mod
**Will work on every version**
(Mention me if Dev adds a new girl. Only have to update then.)
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Didn't work in the new release

 

[sillyrobot]

Well, unfortunately I am not under that impression since one side repeatedly told others he blocked them because he only communicates with what they called "intelligent people". Of course since I was part of the other side (and possibly blocked) I am somewhat partisan in my assessment.

Yeah.

I forgot that part.

 

[SupaChill]

The make up kit turning the girls into different version of themselves are definitely the best skit in the entire game imo. I was grinning or chuckling along the whole time. Can't wait to see Azraesha, Naomi and Blair scene.

Would be so funny if Naomi just turn into a timid and soft spoken girl.

 

[Skeltom]

The make up kit turning the girls into different version of themselves are definitely the best skit in the entire game imo. I was grinning or chuckling along the whole time. Can't wait to see Azraesha, Naomi and Blair scene.

Would be so funny if Naomi just turn into a timid and soft spoken girl.

Unless I missed something there will most likely not be a scene with the others. The MC had the kit at the end and unless he does something stupid with a seemingly cursed artifact the event seems like it's over.

 

[Evil13]

Unless I missed something there will most likely not be a scene with the others. The MC had the kit at the end and unless he does something stupid with a seemingly cursed artifact the event seems like it's over.

Well, that and the fact that Naomi also knows it's ether-charged and dangerous, means its going to be difficult for anyone falling victim to it. Only one I could see trying it is Blair and even then, it would be likely she's trying it because she still doesn't quite believe in magic.

 

[Erebus1]

Anyone else totally want more Goth Lyriel... my first impression was she was cosplaying something from the manga she and Cait were reading... totally need more makeup case content.

 

[BrockLanders]

Anyone else totally want more Goth Lyriel... my first impression was she was cosplaying something from the manga she and Cait were reading... totally need more makeup case content.

Cait looks dummy hot flappin' with her makeup on. OMG

I assume Lyriel was thinking about wearing makeup and playing dress up to feel like someone else and opened up the bathroom medicine cabinet just like MC does with the refrigerator... and voila! Out came what she wanted genie-style.

 

[Evil13]

Cait looks dummy hot flappin' with her makeup on. OMG

Appropriate, as her dress reminded me of the era of the flappers.