- Jun 21, 2018
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This game was going for more than four years!
Thank you for your great work - ZanithOne
The only wish I have - more Lyriel in every update!
Thank you for your great work - ZanithOne
The only wish I have - more Lyriel in every update!
- Sep 10, 2020
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Yep, when I play the game and this game is good enough to be immersive so I am the MC, which, sometimes is not a very pleasant thing due to the stupidity level of ....well, mc so myself...
- Dec 1, 2019
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Yeah, I feel you. Also I have that pain when MC/me does something stupid and has to suffer for it when I didn't have a choice, even though I would have chosen the same thing. But then it would be on me and getting flak for my own mistakes is okay, getting flak for "other peoples'" mistakes not so much.
What are people talking here??
since 2019 no one good screenshot from this game. Just standard models in small rooms with bad lighting.
since 2019 no one good screenshot from this game. Just standard models in small rooms with bad lighting.
- Jun 17, 2018
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- Jun 8, 2021
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There is certainly more to this game than the "standard models in small rooms with bad lighting".
The reason I like this game so much is because of the writing, mystery, comedy, characters, and the world building. If you haven't played this game, which I assume you haven't based on your message, then you wouldn't really understand why so many people like it.
I implore you to try this before you knock it, its well written, funny and overall very smart.
Also, to be fair to you, the renders in the OP post aren't the nicest ones from the game, it gets better over time.
This game feels like one of the most "overrated" on the site because the majority of 5 star reviews get 1 or 2 likes while one that gave it 3 stars got x10 that amount 
clearly more people looking at the reviews agree with the idea that this game is more middle of the road than the beacon of borderline perfection some claim (for whats its worth i tried this game but never got very far into it because it was constantly just talking to someone in the kitchen until the game decided it was time to do something else) thankfully i dont think I triggered any out of order events that are so common in sandbox games so that is a small plus I guess
clearly more people looking at the reviews agree with the idea that this game is more middle of the road than the beacon of borderline perfection some claim (for whats its worth i tried this game but never got very far into it because it was constantly just talking to someone in the kitchen until the game decided it was time to do something else) thankfully i dont think I triggered any out of order events that are so common in sandbox games so that is a small plus I guess
- Sep 19, 2022
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Couple hundred people gave it 5 stars, but the 20 or so in the "this is mid" circle-jerk are the one's to listen to. Right.This game feels like one of the most "overrated" on the site because the majority of 5 star reviews get 1 or 2 likes while one that gave it 3 stars got x10 that amount
The most important part of a 5 star review are the stars itself. I don't think many people read the review as it's mostly just praise. The 5-star rating is enough to cover that - no need to actually read "good renders, good story, etc. etc."
The people who 'like' 1-3 star reviews are looking for common thinkers in their rationale to dislike this game. There are some, yes, in a sea of people who love this game. It's probably a lot of the same people looking for like-minded people who dislike certain aspects of the game, and look for validation that they're not alone in dislike what they dislike. Or maybe it's people who read the review, saw something they wouldn't like without playing the game, and liked that review as a way to save that person from something they wouldn't want to see. A "like" in this case being a "thanks for saving me from this thing that I don't like" without ever having played the game.
It's rated by people who thought it was worth their time to give it a rating. It is appropriately rated based on a consensus. It's okay to not like something. Obviously, most people who decided to review this game like it. They don't need to look for validation in the reviews, the overwhelming amount of 5 star reviews is enough to do that for them.
Yeah and dozens of dozens of those reviews are for the most recent version right? (the verison a user would be playing) not for any updates that came in the last 4 years right?
If people can dislike it for saving them time/validating their opinions why are people clearly not liking the positive reviews for proving that they have good taste in the same amount? clearly more people who like the game are in the review section right?
- Jun 8, 2021
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you haven't played the game and yet you think its overrated? I understand different people like different things, but how can you even know you wont like it without giving it a try? I know free roam style games aren't for everyone (myself included) but I think this game does a pretty good job implementing it.This game feels like one of the most "overrated" on the site because the majority of 5 star reviews get 1 or 2 likes while one that gave it 3 stars got x10 that amount
To address your point about the rating systems I will posit my theory why the reviews who say the game is mid get more likes. someone (you for instance) say the game is middle of the road, so you go to the reviews section to validate your opinion, then when you see a review that validates your opinion, you like it. whereas someone who thinks the game is great, goes to the review section and sees tons of 5 star reviews and says "ok looks like a lot of people agree with me".
not necessarily, I like this game and I don't spend time in the review section at all. I would say that a lot of people are like this, when you have an unpopular opinion, you tend to seek others out with the same opinion. When you have a popular opinion, most of the time, you dont feel the need to
"(for whats its worth i tried this game but never got very far into it because it was constantly just talking to someone in the kitchen until the game decided it was time to do something else)"
I got far enough in to see how the game would function and the overall writing quality (which at the part i played to I had no issue with), I know that the game progresses by introducing new people from their own worlds or whatever to the titualr "house in the rift" and I dont think any game has really implemented an actual sandbox well (name a single game that truly does not gate any events behind others) but going any further on this is more an issue with that type of game design and not this game in particular.
But people who are already in the review section and who leave high reviews dont like other reviews even if they are clearly well thought out and more than a paraphrase in length? I dont find that to be the case at all that people only like "unpopular opinion" reviews and you can go to many others games on the front page (by ranking) and see many reviews that are in line with the general consensus of that game that get more than 0-2 likes.
I guess its just pure happenstance that this specifics game review section ended up in such a way that you are correct no matter what right?
- Dec 1, 2019
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The same (not recent ratings) goes for 1-3 star ratings and their likes, too.Yeah and dozens of dozens of those reviews are for the most recent version right? (the verison a user would be playing) not for any updates that came in the last 4 years right?
I don't put much credit in the rating system here at all - tastes differ and this may be more important than the perceived quality of a major rating, as you say many ratings are outdated and may or may not have changed for the people giving them, people rate games for things they are not attempting to be or other stuff that they shouldn't rate it for like update frequency (not only my opinion but site rules say this shouldn't happen), and so forth. Thus unlike another poster I actually read ratings - some better ones, some worse ones, as long as they deliver detailed aspects and coherent arguments past "everything is great" or "everything sucks" to see how this would apply to me.
So we are in agreement that the plain average score cannot be the one to end all metric. However, some random derivation of them, not even properly executed I would guess, cannot be any better than the original data. Or did you comb through all ratings, added the absolute amount of likes for all 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 star ratings, calculated an average, corrected for people only liking 1 or 5 star ratings regardless of arguments? You compared it to the data from other games with similar ratings to ensure it isn't just a general thing of the review section? My guess is, and apologies if I am wrong: Nope, you are trying to apply some pseudo-mathematic gut rating to justify your position on this game as "middle of the road" - which it may be for you, no doubt about it, no problem with that - without even giving a proper reasoning by objective facts about the game itself which would make it worse than 5 stars.
In the end, ratings are an expression of taste. When I like a game, I like it, no matter what others think, and vice versa. There are some objectively bad things that can happen - bugs, missing renders - but that's it. There is no real way to say "this is objectively not a good but a middling game" whatsoever, and your method about "likes of ratings" certainly isn't in any way applicable to even remotely show popularity or lack thereof.