VN Ren'Py A Life Worth Living [Ch. 5.5 Fix Public] [FiTB_Games]

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sagerock820

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NTR is a misused tag on this site. People use it for netorare, netori, netorase, cheating, sharing, swinging, etc. They are not all the same. Yes, there are cheating, sharing and swinging tags besides the NTR tag. But all too often devs and sometimes the admins, just throw on the NTR tag for any of those. It is not consistent. And makes it confusing for people looking for something specific.
 
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"Swinging is, by definition, not netorare. it is not intended to cause jealousy. " they started experiencing together but like all ntr games you're not given any chance to choose like the cuck always liking it, here you're forced to like swinging, not even jealous the first time you wife gets fucked, still nothing aften dozens did so. It could occur and one can dislike it ( why not the mc since we're supposed to play as male mc) but here like in every ntr game where you're a cuck and suddenly suprising your wife you're grabing your cock to fap because deep inside you're totally liking it then you end up eating sperm etc , it's the same with swinging in this game.
Honestly she has taken so much dicks, she has no reason to be upset, she should high five her husband and tell him man we're totally on the same page, 2 whores
 
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simarimas said:
Swinging is, by definition, not netorare. it is not intended to cause jealousy.

And if we used your definition of NTR being based on what the people playing it feel, then any game with a second male in the game would be required to have the NTR tag, because someone, on these forums, will feel they are being NTR'd.
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Nope. Using your example, you would not be able to define anything in the world, because at least one person would object. That's why I said "MOST" people. Most people would be pretty fucking jealous if they saw their wife having sex with another guy. Most people therefor would feel NTR'ed if they unwittingly downloaded and played as a guy whose wife has sex with other men. It doesn't matter what arbitrary motives the dev assigns to the characters. Tags are there to inform people of what they will be experiencing, not what the characters experience.
 
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gedads said:
"Swinging is, by definition, not netorare. it is not intended to cause jealousy. " they started experiencing together but like all ntr games you're not given any chance to choose like the cuck always liking it, here you're forced to like swinging, not even jealous the first time you wife gets fucked, still nothing aften dozens did so. It could occur and one can dislike it ( why not the mc since we're supposed to play as male mc) but here like in every ntr game where you're a cuck and suddenly suprising your wife you're grabing your cock to fap because deep inside you're totally liking it then you end up eating sperm etc , it's the same with swinging in this game.
Honestly she has taken so much dicks, she has no reason to be upset, she should high five her husband and tell him man we're totally on the same page, 2 whores
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Then why in the FUCK are you playing a game with the tag swinging? That states, CLEAR AS DAY, that swinging is not avoidable? And if you aren't playing it, then what in the hell are you bitching about?
 
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simarimas

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sandwichpuncher said:
Nope. Using your example, you would not be able to define anything in the world, because at least one person would object. That's why I said "MOST" people. Most people would be pretty fucking jealous if they saw their wife having sex with another guy. Most people therefor would feel NTR'ed if they unwittingly downloaded and played as a guy whose wife has sex with other men. It doesn't matter what arbitrary motives the dev assigns to the characters. Tags are there to inform people of what they will be experiencing, not what the characters experience.
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It states in multiple places, that swinging is not avoidable. That the characters will have sex with people who are not their spouse. So at what point would someone download our game, not knowing that they were going to get fucked by other people. And if they did, that is on them. Not us.
 
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Because the topic can be inside, it's how it's done that is important. there can be swingers , can both dislike, one can dislike not the other etc. I don't know before playing what choices are given, now i know : none
 
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gedads said:
Because the topic can be inside, it's how it's done that is important. there can be swingers , can both dislike, one can dislike not the other etc. I don't know before playing what choices are given, now i know : none
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None? You get to select out of 3 couples to choose from in most of the swingers club scenes. Also, what part of UNAVOIDABLE went over your head?
 
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Ummmm....What? the game can include swinging, i don't know how it's treated inside the game before playing neither how the mc will react to it. but i don't see any difference in that kind of open relationship and a freepass. Wife is crazy, they choosed a lifestyle where they have no bond or exclusivity toward each other. Her reactions are just totally crazy. They should take the fun and split once they're done.

also being unavoidable doesn't mean you have to like it
 
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gedads said:
Ummmm....What? the game can include swinging, i don't know how it's treated inside the game before playing neither how the mc will react to it. but i don't see any difference in that kind of open relationship and a freepass. Wife is crazy, they choosed a lifestyle where they have no bond or exclusivity toward each other. Her reactions are just totally crazy. They should take the fun and split once they're done.
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I look forward to playing your swinging game when you make it.

And again. What part of 'main path, which is swinging' goes over your head.

We went out of our way to define exactly what would be in this VN. That swinging was the focus of it. If you don't bother reading what is written in the OP, or in the forums, then I can't help you there.
 
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sure but i'm adventurous, one day i launched a straight game with the tag 'gay' , i was quite pleased i didn't encountered such scene
 
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gedads said:
Ummmm....What? the game can include swinging, i don't know how it's treated inside the game before playing neither how the mc will react to it. but i don't see any difference in that kind of open relationship and a freepass. Wife is crazy, they choosed a lifestyle where they have no bond or exclusivity toward each other. Her reactions are just totally crazy. They should take the fun and split once they're done.

also being unavoidable doesn't mean you have to like it
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I remember you were posting some illogical stuff after our last release (Chapter 5 part 1). Do you have an issue with remembering stuff? You have been sticking around for the last few months in this thread, probably years and now you say you don't know what "Swinging" is?

Man, you got to be kidding me. Like seriously, why are you still here for all these months when you found out what's 'inside' the game? It's not like we added swinging from this chapter.

gedads said:
also being unavoidable doesn't mean you have to like it
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That is why we have a big message in red in OP, if you don't like what we are doing, you can move on from this thread. No one is stopping you. Please stop arguing about stuff that is not even a point of discussion.
 
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gedads

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"Man, you got to be kidding me. Like seriously, why are you still here for all these months when you found out what's 'inside' the game? It's not like we added swinging from this chapter. "
i know what's inside, i would have enjoyed a clean path for the mc to get rid of that crazy wife that's all. That's that drama part which is actually fun in my opinion. But cheating on her is really fun in this game.
 
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