VN Ren'Py A Life Worth Living [Ch. 5 P1] [FiTB_Games]

[bobob69]

NTR avoidable my ass. The fucking MC pressures her into doing shit with other dudes. Don't lie in the tags.

 

[simarimas]

NTR avoidable my ass. The fucking MC pressures her into doing shit with other dudes. Don't lie in the tags.

When and where did he pressure her to do stuff with other guys? And what choices did you make that led to this?

• Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

This is the site definition of Netorare (NTR).

 

[Dessolos]

NTR avoidable my ass. The fucking MC pressures her into doing shit with other dudes. Don't lie in the tags.

if you count swinging as NTR then yeah but straight up NTR is avoidable unless you cheat. Only thing that I experienced that was in the grey area was the gloryhole when she was drunk but I dont count it since you can stop it if you wish.

 

[slaifer99]

THE GAME DEVELOPER makes the games he wants and puts the TAGS for people to read and see what they like and what doesn't.

Didn't like it? Look for other Tags in other games, there is no shortage of different games out there. It's repetitive but we always have to remember the obvious.

 

[simarimas]

if you count swinging as NTR then yeah but straight up NTR is avoidable unless you cheat. Only thing that I experienced that was in the grey area was the gloryhole when she was drunk but I dont count it since you can stop it if you wish.

And, unless you cheated, this was not done to make Fred jealous, so no NTR.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Other man looks at LI => NTR!
Other man breathes near an LI => NTR!
Other man exists in same game as LI => NTR!

 

[simarimas]

Other man looks at LI => NTR! View attachment 3433622
Other man breathes near an LI => NTR! View attachment 3433622
Other man exists in same game as LI => NTR! View attachment 3433622

All too often, this is true, sadly. (And hilariously)

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Other man looks at LI => NTR! View attachment 3433622
Other man breathes near an LI => NTR! View attachment 3433622
Other man exists in same game as LI => NTR! View attachment 3433622

You forgot this is outdated. In addition to those, now it's

Other woman does anything with LI => NTR!

LI owns a dildo* => NTR!

*per recent Roommate thread

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

You forgot this is outdated. In addition to those, now it's

Other woman does anything with LI => NTR!

LI owns a dildo* => NTR!

*per recent Roommate thread

ok, the dildo one made me laugh. But the lesbian shit... it can be NTR depending on how it's done.

 

[simarimas]

ok, the dildo one made me laugh. But the lesbian shit... it can be NTR depending on how it's done.

So if the male jacks off, is that cheating?

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

So if the male jacks off, is that cheating?

of course, cheating on himself, the fuckin' cuck.

 

[alyssssssssss]

Sorry, but I really don't understand what you are saying in this run-on sentence. I get you aren't happy with the cheating path, but other than that I really can't make sense of the points you are trying to make. I would be happy to try to clarify anything, if I could tell what you are trying to say.

Forgive my English, I meant, I cheated with Zoe 2 times, and kissed Kkim, and I confessed them to Mary during therapy, Mary is left alone with the therapist, then she comes down and says everything is ok, but from that moment, Mary she behaves like a bitch and a slut by blaming Fred's betrayal, I could understand if Mary does it in a vengeful way, once, but instead, she makes him betray him several times, showing contempt for Fred, a real revenge, I don't think it's right, besides , initially they wanted children, now after cheating and conflicts, Mary decides that she wants to think about it, because things are not going well, at this point, if these are now the problems, and they are increasing, considering that Mary alone, has fucked more people than Fred, because you created such a weak MC in this path, and I think it is more right in this path, for the couple to break up.

 

[Dessolos]

dont forget female looks at porn or MC walks in / peeks on her masturbating that's NTR to now!

 

[alyssssssssss]

Then one thing makes you laugh, Mary does things with others, but is justified because she then tells it, and this is laughable, because first you talk to your partner, then you do the deed, here it's quite the opposite, but Mary is justified, Fred, on the other hand, has to suffer the consequences, Fred also forgives her for the glory hole, while Mary instead shows her selfish side even just when Fred touches Zoe's costume, double standards. Other than consequences, in the cheating Fred is stung with humiliation, in a bad way, but Fred has never done this.

 

[simarimas]

Forgive my English, I meant, I cheated with Zoe 2 times, and kissed Kkim, and I confessed them to Mary during therapy, Mary is left alone with the therapist, then she comes down and says everything is ok, but from that moment, Mary she behaves like a bitch and a slut by blaming Fred's betrayal, I could understand if Mary does it in a vengeful way, once, but instead, she makes him betray him several times, showing contempt for Fred, a real revenge, I don't think it's right, besides , initially they wanted children, now after cheating and conflicts, Mary decides that she wants to think about it, because things are not going well, at this point, if these are now the problems, and they are increasing, considering that Mary alone, has fucked more people than Fred, because you created such a weak MC in this path, and I think it is more right in this path, for the couple to break up.

Ok, thank you. I understand this much better. It wasn't your english, just the way the sentence was constructed.

If you only cheated with Zoe, and no one else, (This Kelly kiss was not a choice, and doesn't cause any issues) And were honest about these when you spoke with the therapist at the beginning of Ch5, then Mary would not have cheated on you with anyone but Bryce, in the shower. If you lied about Zoe and said you didn't cheat with her, then that changes.

If you got the scene with Derek, and the choice to watch the video call or disconnect, then you cheated with more than just Zoe. Either you fucked Kelly, or got at least a blowjob from Jazz, or fucked Lexi, etc. This is the only way the Derek scene happens without a phone call from Mary asking permission. (which is in hotwife path).

So if you had several, full revenge scenes, then MC has fucked several women, besides Zoe.

And her thinking, in the cheating path, is that if MC is cheating on her, and the marriage is disfunctional, then why would she be ready to bring a child into that relationship, at least until they get things worked out.

There is a counter in the game, for how many times the MC has fucked other women, cheated. And to this point in the game, Mary has not fucked as many as the MC in the cheating path. Now, in hotwife path, where MC allows her to do this, the count could be different. But that is your choice as the player, and it is not cheating. In this path, Mary also allows MC to have a fun night with a friend as well.

Yes, in the cheating path, to this point, MC may seem weak, as he is trying to save his marriage, and he has done wrong by Mary, so she is doing the same to him. Yes it is vindictive of her, but she also wants MC to know how it feels to be cheated on, so perhaps he will change his ways. In the future, perhaps he will have a chance to tell her to 'fuck off' and leave her, but not at that point yet.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

ok, the dildo one made me laugh. But the lesbian shit... it can be NTR depending on how it's done.

Oh absolutely, it's all context specific. And that's the case with all this stuff, is the other guy looking at LI and winking while LI smiles back then glares at mc? I've found 90% of the time it's totally innocuous stuff that only the perpetually insecure would take issue with...

 

[simarimas]

Then one thing makes you laugh, Mary does things with others, but is justified because she then tells it, and this is laughable, because first you talk to your partner, then you do the deed, here it's quite the opposite, but Mary is justified, Fred, on the other hand, has to suffer the consequences, Fred also forgives her for the glory hole, while Mary instead shows her selfish side even just when Fred touches Zoe's costume, double standards. Other than consequences, in the cheating Fred is stung with humiliation, in a bad way, but Fred has never done this.

In hotwife path, she always asks MC, or it is even his idea.

In cheating path, why would she ask? He didn't ask to cheat on her? And she explains herself about why she thinks it is better to show him, so he knows it is happening, or would he rather hear about it from someone else?

 

[alyssssssssss]

Ok, thank you. I understand this much better. It wasn't your english, just the way the sentence was constructed.

If you only cheated with Zoe, and no one else, (This Kelly kiss was not a choice, and doesn't cause any issues) And were honest about these when you spoke with the therapist at the beginning of Ch5, then Mary would not have cheated on you with anyone but Bryce, in the shower. If you lied about Zoe and said you didn't cheat with her, then that changes.

If you got the scene with Derek, and the choice to watch the video call or disconnect, then you cheated with more than just Zoe. Either you fucked Kelly, or got at least a blowjob from Jazz, or fucked Lexi, etc. This is the only way the Derek scene happens without a phone call from Mary asking permission. (which is in hotwife path).

So if you had several, full revenge scenes, then MC has fucked several women, besides Zoe.

And her thinking, in the cheating path, is that if MC is cheating on her, and the marriage is disfunctional, then why would she be ready to bring a child into that relationship, at least until they get things worked out.

There is a counter in the game, for how many times the MC has fucked other women, cheated. And to this point in the game, Mary has not fucked as many as the MC in the cheating path. Now, in hotwife path, where MC allows her to do this, the count could be different. But that is your choice as the player, and it is not cheating. In this path, Mary also allows MC to have a fun night with a friend as well.

Yes, in the cheating path, to this point, MC may seem weak, as he is trying to save his marriage, and he has done wrong by Mary, so she is doing the same to him. Yes it is vindictive of her, but she also wants MC to know how it feels to be cheated on, so perhaps he will change his ways. In the future, perhaps he will have a chance to tell her to 'fuck off' and leave her, but not at that point yet.
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Sorry, I forgot about the blowjob with Jazz, but besides Zoe and Jazz, he hasn't fucked anyone else, but I think it's the way in which Mary demands and wants to humiliate Fred that is bad, not the sexual act itself. Furthermore, I have mentioned this path in harsher ways, because at this point I see a distancing of the couple, especially the bad way that Mary uses revenge, and I was expecting a quarrel or a possible breakup of the couple, I hope I have given you an idea.

 

[simarimas]

Sorry, I forgot about the blowjob with Jazz, but besides Zoe and Jazz, he hasn't fucked anyone else, but I think it's the way in which Mary demands and wants to humiliate Fred that is bad, not the sexual act itself. Furthermore, I have mentioned this path in harsher ways, because at this point I see a distancing of the couple, especially the bad way that Mary uses revenge, and I was expecting a quarrel or a possible breakup of the couple, I hope I have given you an idea.

We have a story we are telling, and the story needs to get to a point, before we have the option of the couple breaking up. Once we get to that point, then there will be choices to make to see how the couple goes forward.

Yes, it is harsh at some points, but that is Netorare, which the cheating path is. It is done to make the MC jealous, and she is doing it for that reason.

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

We have a story we are telling, and the story needs to get to a point, before we have the option of the couple breaking up. Once we get to that point, then there will be choices to make to see how the couple goes forward.

Yes, it is harsh at some points, but that is Netorare, which the cheating path is. It is done to make the MC jealous, and she is doing it for that reason.

I'm sure you guys are aware that this place is populated with a predominant mindset that men can cheat all they want and there is nothing whatsoever wrong with it. But for their woman/women to even be in the same room with an unattached male is a sin punishable by quartering.

Is she going too far? Maybe so, maybe no. People do unpredictable things when emotionally wounded. I don't think most people would react as she does...most would just walk away. But some would and do. The question then becomes...is the effort to mend worth it?

Keep up the good work. There's way, WAY too many stories on this site with repetitive and predictable outcomes. Be different.