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I cant imagine the business dude buying up all of the commercial real estate is directly behind the bomb/fire. It would be far too much of a risk (prison sentence for arson) for far too little gain, considering he already has the means to pose a threat by simply outspending his competition.

Now, i can see some over eager lackey, like the douche that accompanies Riley, going off script and trying to curry favor, being all like, "see what i did boss? I went above and beyond to get you what you wanted!"

But, if I had to guess without any other evidence, id say it was the stupid shit from the dance competition. Petty, insecure, sore loser, got publicly humiliated, he has all the hallmarks of motive and personality to do something like that.

Hell, he could have been the person in the bear, giving him access to the place without anyone suspicious of him being seen there.
 

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I cant imagine the business dude buying up all of the commercial real estate is directly behind the bomb/fire. It would be far too much of a risk (prison sentence for arson) for far too little gain, considering he already has the means to pose a threat by simply outspending his competition.

Now, i can see some over eager lackey, like the douche that accompanies Riley, going off script and trying to curry favor, being all like, "see what i did boss? I went above and beyond to get you what you wanted!"

But, if I had to guess without any other evidence, id say it was the stupid shit from the dance competition. Petty, insecure, sore loser, got publicly humiliated, he has all the hallmarks of motive and personality to do something like that.

Hell, he could have been the person in the bear, giving him access to the place without anyone suspicious of him being seen there.
Not to bring real world logic to the porn VN world, but where are the sprinklers? There's virtually nowhere in the western world that building codes, for that type of building, don't require fire suppression sprinkler systems which are inspected on a regular basis. I could also mention that for the fire to get that intense that quickly it didn't start in a closet.

So if you want to consider the event from a real world perspective, someone, who was unconcerned about it being identified as arson, disabled the sprinkler system and professionally set the fire. This wasn't the work of an amateur arsonist. So probably not some random lackey or the moron from the dance competition.
 
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Great update to one of my favorite VN's. Just glad you didn't kill off my darling Harlow <3
I noticed there was a black cat in the shot a few times during the party which I thought straight away was foreshadowing something bad was going to happen...and the first noticeable shot of it was when Marisa visited. I don't think she had anything to do with the fire but...hey, ya never know. That giant teddy bear was pretty sus too.

The ending to this update gave me serious ''Acting Lessons'' PTSD flashbacks though, don't do my girl Harlow like that ever again please! Thanks in advance.
 
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I think that if the goal of the arsonist was to serve the interests of the industrialist who is buying up the block, burning the place was the wrong way to go for 3 reasons. First, Billy was going to remodel the place anyway and had secured the funding to do it. Second, if Billy didn't have insurance as a renter of the property the owner of the building certainly does. It is usually payable at the same time as property insurance and/or a business license. Third, it seems more an attempt to kill MC, who lives there, than to compel Billy to accept an offer that would certainly be nullified by a force majeure like a fire. So it is my hypothesis that whoever set the fire did it because it was personal, not professional. If it was that guy's flying monkey, he did it out of an excess of spite and is sure not to have pleased his boss.
 

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Just replaying this from the beginning, to celebrate the recent update and I noticed that currently there does not seem to be a scene replay or picture gallery or something.
Any chance that this will be added? (I wouldn't say it is needed or anything but it sure is a nice bonus)
 
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Damn!!! Great update! Great game! The party was awesome, for me, the best scene so far. And that ending? Man! I wasn't expecting that. Excellent job, VenusWaltz ! Can't wait for next chapter.
 

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A scene gallery was added a few updates ago. I know a lot of people expect to have one in games these days, so I made it an early priority. It might be buggy but it should be there.

Reading all of the speculations on the end of the episode is interesting. I'm glad some of you found it compelling.
 

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Not to bring real world logic to the porn VN world, but where are the sprinklers? There's virtually nowhere in the western world that building codes, for that type of building, don't require fire suppression sprinkler systems which are inspected on a regular basis. I could also mention that for the fire to get that intense that quickly it didn't start in a closet.

So if you want to consider the event from a real world perspective, someone, who was unconcerned about it being identified as arson, disabled the sprinkler system and professionally set the fire. This wasn't the work of an amateur arsonist. So probably not some random lackey or the moron from the dance competition.
You do raise a good points about technical know how and the sprinklers and such, but most of that i can hand wave with "it's a renpy porn game. Suspension of disbelief is already set to max".

Sometimes, that is stretched to the point of "Oh, ffs, come on, that doesnt even remotely work like that." And ill bail on a VN, but in this case, as long as it's internally consistent with the world that the dev is building, then sure.
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Do choices matter in this game or they're just for flavor? For example, if I'm too much of a joker with a certain girl she'll hate it but will love a more "white knightly" personality.
 

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Do choices matter in this game or they're just for flavor? For example, if I'm too much of a joker with a certain girl she'll hate it but will love a more "white knightly" personality.
Yes and no. The pink/green/blue choices seem to be pretty much for flavor, as do the red/yellow choices. The white choices can be more significant; for example, some white choices are whether to sleep with someone or not. But there aren't really any choices that completely alter the story or anything.
 

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Everything you said regarding Erika scouting the best matchups is true, and i pointed out the "until recently", which means the last few weeks working with Cap. But that's only 3 weeks or so.

The previous 3 *years* have been him essentially shadowboxing alone with no one ever pointing out any mistakes in form or technique. So realistically, Cap probably spent those first 3 weeks trying to undo all of the bad habits he has developed over 3 years without any actual coaching.

And while shadowboxing (with good technique) is an important training tool, sure, i dont recall him ever doing any bag work during those first 3 years. Big difference hitting air and hitting a bag, making sure ol' one punch man isnt hitting at a bad angles and end up breaking his own hands, rolling his wrists, and all of the other unexpected things that can happen when someone isnt experienced at actually *hitting* things.

And he damn sure hasnt been sparring those last 3 years. Which means reading opponents, gauging distance, working off angles, knowing when to conserve energy and when to empty the gas tank, etc. None of that.

So he's basically a guy that is in decent shape that's been doing calisthenics and has ~3 weeks of boxing training.
 
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Everything you said regarding Erika scouting the best matchups is true, and i pointed out the "until recently", which means the last few weeks working with Cap. But that's only 3 weeks or so.

The previous 3 *years* have been him essentially shadowboxing alone with no one ever pointing out any mistakes in form or technique. So realistically, Cap probably spent those first 3 weeks trying to undo all of the bad habits he has developed over 3 years without any actual coaching.

And while shadowboxing (with good technique) is an important training tool, sure, i dont recall him ever doing any bag work during those first 3 years. Big difference hitting air and hitting a bag, making sure ol' one punch man isnt hitting at a bad angles and end up breaking his own hands, rolling his wrists, and all of the other unexpected things that can happen when someone isnt experienced at actually *hitting* things.

And he damn sure hasnt been sparring those last 3 years. Which means reading opponents, gauging distance, working off angles, knowing when to conserve energy and when to empty the gas tank, etc. None of that.

So he's basically a guy that is in decent shape that's been doing calisthenics and has ~3 weeks of boxing training.
But as you yourself agreed, she's been scouting for the best matchups. IF she has any flexibility in assigning fights — yes, that's a big "if" — she's not going to dump the MC into directly going against the best fighter there. There also will be a certain degree of luck to things. Depending on what system they use for competing, the actual #1 and #2 fighters (by skill level) could always face each other very early on. If they use a standard sports bracketing system, probably not, but who knows what they use? They could always pick balls out of a jar or something.

From what's been shown so far, the MC seems to be an extremely quick learner generally. Depending on his natural talent level, it's conceivable that he corrects flaws very quickly and doesn't need a lot of handholding. If Cap doesn't have to spend too much time fixing problems — because the MC corrects them immediately and doesn't make the mistakes again — there would be a decent amount of time learning new things instead of focusing so much on errors. And during the first experience seeing the MC demonstrate his fighting, Cap seemed to feel like the MC had potential. That says that at least some things the MC did were in the ballpark of correct. (That doesn't mean they don't need work, even a lot of it, of course.)

And again, we're assuming that every episode is a week. That seems right, but if we're wrong, there could be even more practice time under the MC's belt. Either way, it's not like the competition is the day after seeing the fighters, so there's still time. Erika even made it sound like he'll have sufficient time to practice with Cap.
 

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Do choices matter in this game or they're just for flavor? For example, if I'm too much of a joker with a certain girl she'll hate it but will love a more "white knightly" personality.
The dev has told us that the pink/green/blue choices are for flavor and have no impact on the reactions from the LIs.
 

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But as you yourself agreed, she's been scouting for the best matchups. IF she has any flexibility in assigning fights — yes, that's a big "if" — she's not going to dump the MC into directly going against the best fighter there. There also will be a certain degree of luck to things. Depending on what system they use for competing, the actual #1 and #2 fighters (by skill level) could always face each other very early on. If they use a standard sports bracketing system, probably not, but who knows what they use? They could always pick balls out of a jar or something.

From what's been shown so far, the MC seems to be an extremely quick learner generally. Depending on his natural talent level, it's conceivable that he corrects flaws very quickly and doesn't need a lot of handholding. If Cap doesn't have to spend too much time fixing problems — because the MC corrects them immediately and doesn't make the mistakes again — there would be a decent amount of time learning new things instead of focusing so much on errors. And during the first experience seeing the MC demonstrate his fighting, Cap seemed to feel like the MC had potential. That says that at least some things the MC did were in the ballpark of correct. (That doesn't mean they don't need work, even a lot of it, of course.)

And again, we're assuming that every episode is a week. That seems right, but if we're wrong, there could be even more practice time under the MC's belt. Either way, it's not like the competition is the day after seeing the fighters, so there's still time. Erika even made it sound like he'll have sufficient time to practice with Cap.
Erika was definitely doing her part scouting, no doubt, but her goal was two fold 1) getting him easy fights for easy wins, sure, but more importantly, 2) getting the best odds to maximize the bet payoffs. Erika always has her eye on the prize: getting paid.

I think that my biggest criticism is doing the one punch man so many times in a row. The first time was funny, sure. But the 2nd? Then a 3rd? It isnt because he is some world class fighter that should be in the UFC. (Yet, given time and training, sure)

It's because he has been matched up with bums that had no business stepping into the cage. So it just trivializes that whole part.

But at least he should be meeting actual competition soon, so then this will all be moot.
 
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At this point One Punch Man is gonna kiss Vanessa in chapter 20:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:. I really enjoy the game,one of my favourites.
 
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