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Ranting Old Man

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NTR paths often come with a 180 degree turn in terms of personality/behavior.
Like basically every NTR path in almost every single game.

Beeman is an unbelievable character as well. There is no good story reason why Chole could go from prudish and in love with MC to banging Beeman Whore Style in only a few hours and no one in her fucking family not notice and destroy Beeman. I mean ensuring Choles future is how Nicole path started for fuck sake. And yeah I get that MC has her busy but still she would have noticed strange changes in her behavior, like idk her being out with new friends she doesn't talk about all the time. Yeah sorry not buying it.
Nor is it believable that MC, whom HATES Beeman wouldn't report this to both Nicole and John just to see Beeman removed completely.

Bullshit NTR story that lacks immersion for quick NTR bucks. Simply put, if something or a fetish was added to a VN for the intent of gaining more subs you can always count on it's Defenders to lack seeing clearly and the story to be half assed and make no sense. It isn't added to enrich the story, it's added for sponsors and that changes how a dev will handle it dramatically.
I'm not saying NTR is bad, I'm saying bad NTR is bad.

End Rant *awaits mob*
 
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RC-1138 Boss

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Author already said no. I will never understand why do people keep begging for something that won't happen... :FacePalm: :FacePalm:
 

Spfjolietjake

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Like basically every NTR path in almost every single game.

Beeman is an unbelievable character as well. There is no good story reason why Chole could go from prudish and in love with MC to banging Beeman Whore Style in only a few hours and no one in her fucking family not notice and destroy Beeman. I mean ensuring Choles future is how Nicole path started for fuck sake. And yeah I get that MC has her busy but still she would have noticed strange changes in her behavior, like idk her being out with new friends she doesn't talk about all the time. Yeah sorry not buying it.
Nor is it believable that MC, whom HATES Beeman wouldn't report this to both Nicole and John just to see Beeman removed completely.

Bullshit NTR story that lacks immersion for quick NTR bucks. Simply put, if something or a fetish was added to a VN for the intent of gaining more subs you can always count on it's Defenders to lack seeing clearly and the story to be half assed and make no sense. It isn't added to enrich the story, it's added for sponsors and that changes how a dev will handle it dramatically.
I'm not saying NTR is bad, I'm saying bad NTR is bad.

End Rant *awaits mob*
Yeah women never do 180s. All are totally rational and stable creatures. :p

Seriously it takes all kinds there are no absolutes when it comes to humans they always can surprise you especially in and out of relationships. :)
 

Mormont

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Like basically every NTR path in almost every single game.

Beeman is an unbelievable character as well. There is no good story reason why Chole could go from prudish and in love with MC to banging Beeman Whore Style in only a few hours and no one in her fucking family not notice and destroy Beeman. I mean ensuring Choles future is how Nicole path started for fuck sake. And yeah I get that MC has her busy but still she would have noticed strange changes in her behavior, like idk her being out with new friends she doesn't talk about all the time. Yeah sorry not buying it.
Nor is it believable that MC, whom HATES Beeman wouldn't report this to both Nicole and John just to see Beeman removed completely.

Bullshit NTR story that lacks immersion for quick NTR bucks. Simply put, if something or a fetish was added to a VN for the intent of gaining more subs you can always count on it's Defenders to lack seeing clearly and the story to be half assed and make no sense. It isn't added to enrich the story, it's added for sponsors and that changes how a dev will handle it dramatically.
I'm not saying NTR is bad, I'm saying bad NTR is bad.

End Rant *awaits mob*
Very well put and I couldn't agree more with what you said I've always thought from the start that it's one angle of the game that wasn't done very well, wasn't a fan of this whole magic shit show either influencing Chloe it just feels so out there and out of place.
 

roam;)

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Can anybody tell me what's update frequency of this game? I actually joined after part 8 so do not know when will the next update be
 
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Like basically every NTR path in almost every single game.

Beeman is an unbelievable character as well. There is no good story reason why Chole could go from prudish and in love with MC to banging Beeman Whore Style in only a few hours and no one in her fucking family not notice and destroy Beeman. I mean ensuring Choles future is how Nicole path started for fuck sake. And yeah I get that MC has her busy but still she would have noticed strange changes in her behavior, like idk her being out with new friends she doesn't talk about all the time. Yeah sorry not buying it.
Nor is it believable that MC, whom HATES Beeman wouldn't report this to both Nicole and John just to see Beeman removed completely.

Bullshit NTR story that lacks immersion for quick NTR bucks. Simply put, if something or a fetish was added to a VN for the intent of gaining more subs you can always count on it's Defenders to lack seeing clearly and the story to be half assed and make no sense. It isn't added to enrich the story, it's added for sponsors and that changes how a dev will handle it dramatically.
I'm not saying NTR is bad, I'm saying bad NTR is bad.

End Rant *awaits mob*
Wait, what!? When do we find out that Chole is fucking beeman? I Might've skipped skimmed past it because some of the dialogues are fucking tedious to read
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jamdan

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Like basically every NTR path in almost every single game.

Beeman is an unbelievable character as well. There is no good story reason why Chole could go from prudish and in love with MC to banging Beeman Whore Style in only a few hours and no one in her fucking family not notice and destroy Beeman. I mean ensuring Choles future is how Nicole path started for fuck sake. And yeah I get that MC has her busy but still she would have noticed strange changes in her behavior, like idk her being out with new friends she doesn't talk about all the time. Yeah sorry not buying it.
Nor is it believable that MC, whom HATES Beeman wouldn't report this to both Nicole and John just to see Beeman removed completely.

Bullshit NTR story that lacks immersion for quick NTR bucks. Simply put, if something or a fetish was added to a VN for the intent of gaining more subs you can always count on it's Defenders to lack seeing clearly and the story to be half assed and make no sense. It isn't added to enrich the story, it's added for sponsors and that changes how a dev will handle it dramatically.
I'm not saying NTR is bad, I'm saying bad NTR is bad.

End Rant *awaits mob*
The Beeman route is the only bad thing about this game.

Part of me thinks the only reason it exists is to get Chloe away from MC so he can have Nicole only.

Eventually, something will have to happen with MC being with both of them. It isn't going to be kept secret forever. Chloe being with Beeman fixes that problem, sort of. It's why I mentioned in my last post the potential of somehow managing to get both of them with their consent.

There are only a few options to resolve the issue of both Nicole and Chloe being with MC, behind Chloe's back.

- It's kept secret forever. Unlikely if not impossible.
- One of the girls leaves MC. Semi-Likely, either Nicole out of shame or Chloe because she is pissed at MC for banging her mom.
- Somehow, Chloe agrees to share him. Would need to convince Chloe to allow it. Unknown probability as of now.

I think John's shenanigan's will have a large role in the 3rd option. Perhaps Marilyn too.
 

WShatn

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Wait, what!? When do we find out that Chole is fucking beeman? I Might've skipped skimmed past it because some of the dialogues are fucking tedious to read
If you keep skipping text in visual novels, you're going to lose a lot of content, I suggest you try other types of games.
 

Holy Bacchus

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The Beeman route is the only bad thing about this game.

Part of me thinks the only reason it exists is to get Chloe away from MC so he can have Nicole only.

Eventually, something will have to happen with MC being with both of them. It isn't going to be kept secret forever. Chloe being with Beeman fixes that problem, sort of. It's why I mentioned in my last post the potential of somehow managing to get both of them with their consent.

There are only a few options to resolve the issue of both Nicole and Chloe being with MC, behind Chloe's back.

- It's kept secret forever. Unlikely if not impossible.
- One of the girls leaves MC. Semi-Likely, either Nicole out of shame or Chloe because she is pissed at MC for banging her mom.
- Somehow, Chloe agrees to share him. Would need to convince Chloe to allow it. Unknown probability as of now.

I think John's shenanigan's will have a large role in the 3rd option. Perhaps Marilyn too.
Considering the fact that this game is entirely centred on the MC and Nicole developing a loving relationship, whether you treat her well or corrupt her, Beeman feels almost superfluous.

The general point of NTR is to instill jealousy and general hurt feelings in the player/reader/viewer to see a LI have sex and/or be "stolen" by someone else, but that's predicated on caring for that character and the way this game has gone so far it doesn't feel like we've been made to care as much for Chloe and we have for Nicole since Nicole is, essentially, the main goal of this game. So it does, at times, make you think, "what's the point?", when it comes to keeping Chloe when you have the Nicole and it seems to mostly come down to just keeping her away from the disgusting Beeman, which isn't really NTR and feels more like trying to protect her.

If you do keep her though, I highly doubt we'll see any kind of acceptance from her of the MC and Nicole's relationship such that there would be a sharing arrangement. Most likely I think we'd see it implode with Chloe screaming at the pair of them and bursting into tears, or something will happen with the MC and Nicole that will mean they don't end up together, but I imagine the latter would not go down well with pretty much everybody.
 
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