- Nov 14, 2017
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been for a long time.
- Thread starter UncleVT
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- Feb 19, 2021
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I just don't want John to die I want him to suffer for all the shit he's done and all the people he's cheated out of having a decent life.
- Feb 11, 2018
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One questions why was the Doctor reluctant to say she was pregnant?.
He's supossed to be a professional Doctor so unless it's actually his baby he shouldn't have any issue telling them.
Oh and by the way if the MC graduated then doesn't that mean he's old enough to go or stay where he want's.
And not have to do what his parent's tell him.
But then since he already suppossedly works for John himself.
What possible real reason would there be for his mother to need to work for John instead.
The MC could just as easly work to pay back the debt and he already knows the Job.
Plus his Aunt's own sister would be far better to look after her than her clueless nephew would be.
None of this frankly weak plot makes sence other than from a threat of an NTR drama veiw point.
But then after the MC's feeble Beeman fight this new plot from the Dev will just make him more of a loser.
And what with the MC not only not bothering to argue the point.
But the MC's own thoughts apparently allready having him go along with this bullshit Idea.
The Mc's just looks more and more the loser each update.
Is a little disappointing but no real suprise nope infact the only real suprise in this game.
Is both how and why Nicole is still with him.
That said she married John so we already know she's not of sound mind or judgment.
Just sayin.
He's supossed to be a professional Doctor so unless it's actually his baby he shouldn't have any issue telling them.
Oh and by the way if the MC graduated then doesn't that mean he's old enough to go or stay where he want's.
And not have to do what his parent's tell him.
But then since he already suppossedly works for John himself.
What possible real reason would there be for his mother to need to work for John instead.
The MC could just as easly work to pay back the debt and he already knows the Job.
Plus his Aunt's own sister would be far better to look after her than her clueless nephew would be.
None of this frankly weak plot makes sence other than from a threat of an NTR drama veiw point.
But then after the MC's feeble Beeman fight this new plot from the Dev will just make him more of a loser.
And what with the MC not only not bothering to argue the point.
But the MC's own thoughts apparently allready having him go along with this bullshit Idea.
The Mc's just looks more and more the loser each update.
Is a little disappointing but no real suprise nope infact the only real suprise in this game.
Is both how and why Nicole is still with him.
That said she married John so we already know she's not of sound mind or judgment.
Just sayin.
- Aug 30, 2020
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Just sayin ... The MC will find away he said it a lot in this ep so we were given a short ep that gave lots of what ifs but no true direction given. just she is having a baby and her daughter is in shock from Beeman.
So far nothing the mc has done affects John anyway in terms of bringing him down. He's going up against a corporation that owns the town but still think he can do this with only Sylvia and Marilyn. Sylvia is still screwed with the blackmail material. Marilyn is too arrogant. I'm surprised she isn't worried that she'll be next in John's sights.
- Feb 19, 2020
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since none dares, I'll be 'that guy today'.
- Ok folks skip it.
-this is fucking booooring
-wasted renders on nonsensical banter
-one boring sex scene (animations seemed like were done in the 90's)
- I loved this game before but the dev got lost on this one....i hope he'll be able to save it.
- this turned into a 'bad' Hallmark love story.
- and that ending
- Ok folks skip it.
-this is fucking booooring
-wasted renders on nonsensical banter
-one boring sex scene (animations seemed like were done in the 90's)
- I loved this game before but the dev got lost on this one....i hope he'll be able to save it.
- this turned into a 'bad' Hallmark love story.
- and that ending
- Mar 3, 2020
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MC is still a little kid. He is still busy hanging out with Nico. I think the developer should teach him a serious lesson so that he can be firm, find John's weakness, make a plan, and punish John step by step. May Nico and the unborn child give him courage, God bless them.
- Dec 26, 2021
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to start i can't speak about the long period of this AVN been onhold for more than two years because i'm relatively new to it (started since the dev came back) otherwise i would have something to say about it
in terms of romance in AVNs i think this's the 2nd best written scenario between an MC and LI only behind LOF Cece from all the AVNs that i viewed so far
now i want to go about couple of plot points:
without reading anything here i suspected first that John is MC's father but that theory quickly put to rest by well informed members here that dev has no intentions of that whatsoever
since NTR is my favorite genre in AVNs i started my first readthrough with it in mind but due to my surprise of how strong the romantic element and writings for it is in this i resorted to it only for viewing Chloe scenes or to test what's best for Nicole focused love path, but i appreciated all the Chloe's NTR action nonetheless
other thing i wished the dev put a little more time to creating additional renders for John exploits rather than only few for each of his scenes with Silvia and others since he's the main antagonist of the story
now then let's get serious:
since the introduction of Hal & Jenny i always questioned their existence since up until the final scene in the latest update they served no purpose whatsoever but thankfully dev finally remedied that, now the way i would've gone about it is revolve around John power trip over MC and a little lesson for him which is what the dev is hopefully finally will be heading the story in that direction
the way dev going about it tells me we're miles behind of this AVN completion and that's fine, because up until the ending of the camping trip the romance been perfect and without high stakes the romance will turn stale and will be derailed and toned down so that's why i thought it's about time to separate MC and Nicole unwillingly
And since John is depicted as this menacing villain type he didn't do shit yet to MC, he knows about Mc affair with his wife and the child she's with isn't his and you think he's ok with it!!!!!??????
for the people that complaining about what's to come hopefully the dev is with me on this and this AVN isn't for the faints of hearts, get the fuck outta here with your vanilla suggestions, no romance story is compelling without grave suffering first
this was my original scenario for Jenny and John: upon the first meeting when you introduce the parents at first family gathering suddenly Jenny becomes nervous when she sees John at the doorstep & at the dinner table i wish there was a scene where Jenny has to use the bathroom upstairs and John follows her without rousing suspicion and mc follow after to catch them arguing in the upstairs corridor and we later found out that they have history together when she worked for him in the past, dev now chose to activate that storyline and explore it from the beginning, hopefully John will turn Jenny into a submissive whore and we see it with enough renders
like i said anymore with Nicole for now and it'll turn stale and it'll feel like it become repetitive, it needs a breather, so it feels like this AVN just received a second life, i liked Abi and Silvia interactions and scripts, in any other AVN their stories will make great romance, but in this we'll never have the choice to romance them i think, so in the new city that MC will move to it'll be a great opportunity to meet new characters like these two and the Aunt and form new bonds while still communicating with Nicole and figure out solutions to be together
also John must teach MC a lesson, there's always consequences to your actions: first with Jenny, and something more hardcore later, nothing is good about vanilla story with no consequences: no romance is good without tragic first, and if dev don't start to show John true sadistic and sinister nature then why hyping him up slowly to be the antagonist and villain!???
if you can believe it due to the blue file that Hal has and the inactions of John so far i thought MC is a clone of John to harvest organs from him later type shit
hopefully this AVN keep delivering and continue its good story so far
in terms of romance in AVNs i think this's the 2nd best written scenario between an MC and LI only behind LOF Cece from all the AVNs that i viewed so far
now i want to go about couple of plot points:
without reading anything here i suspected first that John is MC's father but that theory quickly put to rest by well informed members here that dev has no intentions of that whatsoever
since NTR is my favorite genre in AVNs i started my first readthrough with it in mind but due to my surprise of how strong the romantic element and writings for it is in this i resorted to it only for viewing Chloe scenes or to test what's best for Nicole focused love path, but i appreciated all the Chloe's NTR action nonetheless
other thing i wished the dev put a little more time to creating additional renders for John exploits rather than only few for each of his scenes with Silvia and others since he's the main antagonist of the story
now then let's get serious:
since the introduction of Hal & Jenny i always questioned their existence since up until the final scene in the latest update they served no purpose whatsoever but thankfully dev finally remedied that, now the way i would've gone about it is revolve around John power trip over MC and a little lesson for him which is what the dev is hopefully finally will be heading the story in that direction
the way dev going about it tells me we're miles behind of this AVN completion and that's fine, because up until the ending of the camping trip the romance been perfect and without high stakes the romance will turn stale and will be derailed and toned down so that's why i thought it's about time to separate MC and Nicole unwillingly
And since John is depicted as this menacing villain type he didn't do shit yet to MC, he knows about Mc affair with his wife and the child she's with isn't his and you think he's ok with it!!!!!??????
for the people that complaining about what's to come hopefully the dev is with me on this and this AVN isn't for the faints of hearts, get the fuck outta here with your vanilla suggestions, no romance story is compelling without grave suffering first
this was my original scenario for Jenny and John: upon the first meeting when you introduce the parents at first family gathering suddenly Jenny becomes nervous when she sees John at the doorstep & at the dinner table i wish there was a scene where Jenny has to use the bathroom upstairs and John follows her without rousing suspicion and mc follow after to catch them arguing in the upstairs corridor and we later found out that they have history together when she worked for him in the past, dev now chose to activate that storyline and explore it from the beginning, hopefully John will turn Jenny into a submissive whore and we see it with enough renders
like i said anymore with Nicole for now and it'll turn stale and it'll feel like it become repetitive, it needs a breather, so it feels like this AVN just received a second life, i liked Abi and Silvia interactions and scripts, in any other AVN their stories will make great romance, but in this we'll never have the choice to romance them i think, so in the new city that MC will move to it'll be a great opportunity to meet new characters like these two and the Aunt and form new bonds while still communicating with Nicole and figure out solutions to be together
also John must teach MC a lesson, there's always consequences to your actions: first with Jenny, and something more hardcore later, nothing is good about vanilla story with no consequences: no romance is good without tragic first, and if dev don't start to show John true sadistic and sinister nature then why hyping him up slowly to be the antagonist and villain!???
if you can believe it due to the blue file that Hal has and the inactions of John so far i thought MC is a clone of John to harvest organs from him later type shit
hopefully this AVN keep delivering and continue its good story so far
I skipped some dialogs in this game but as far as i understand the current ending should be the Point where John gets to Mcs Mom. I dont know if you can call it NTR, since MC doesnt have incestius feeelings towards her but as a NTR Fan i would like to see that. The Chloe Tom NTR Connection wasnt really "painfull" enough for the MC, he bangs her mom why would i care about Chloe? This one could be interesting.
- Mar 22, 2023
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After this last update. Now im certain that this game needs more Headpats and Handholding with Nicole.
- Jan 17, 2021
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Can’t put this game down since starting and its for the story. Want to see John gets his comeuppance. Speaking of John, wished we got full scenes of his dalliances. And I hope there is a harem end for the MC.
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- Mar 7, 2018
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- Sep 30, 2017
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Ello!
Well written! I believe ever since the late release on Part 13, something in Dev mind decide go with a different story going forward and we see it in Part 14. I hate to think it but I think the Dev is desperate and that usually mean the Dev is not Earning enough and therefore looking for the easy fetish to pull people in. NTR. Why the reason I wrote in my past posts how all this doesn't fit the story at all.
From Nicole memory of her past with Mr Heaven, I like to believe he was different. I wonder if we will learn how Mr Heaven came to be how he is in the current story. After all Nicole have been kept in the dark about Mr Heaven business and how he been cheating on Nicole long before the game started. Don't see how our MC will win against Mr Heaven when the Dev giving Mr Heaven every advantage over the MC. Thanks.
- May 1, 2020
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What does Marilyn really want out of all this??
- Jun 11, 2017
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I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Abigail.