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I do adore this game. Cannot wait for pt15.

My question is, how do you unlock freely calling Nicole by her name. Played game from start to finish of ch14 dozens of times, still says you haven't unlocked to freely call her Nicole.
 

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I havent played this in quite a while but i remember being an unofficial walkthrough focusing on the love route for nicole in the OP; its gone now from what i see, anyone remembers it?
 

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I do adore this game. Cannot wait for pt15.

My question is, how do you unlock freely calling Nicole by her name. Played game from start to finish of ch14 dozens of times, still says you haven't unlocked to freely call her Nicole.
From what i remember you had to call her by her name exactly 12 or 13 times (dont remember exactly) by the chapter where you can have sex with her in the bathroom but i think you could call her by her name more than that and it wouldnt work which makes no sense so i just used the cheat mod.
 
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I havent played this in quite a while but i remember being an unofficial walkthrough focusing on the love route for nicole in the OP; its gone now from what i see, anyone remembers it?
The mod only focuses on the corruption route but the written one, the first walkthrough on the extras, it says which option gives love or corruption points.
 

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Thank you so much for sharing again Aiden619! :love: :love: :love:

These are very interesting teaser screenshot dialogues. As usual, I'll be adding my own theories here.

1st WIP dialogue picture: This teaser surprised me. It appears Marilyn won't and is refusing to help MC (Us) on another adventure perhaps investigating John. I thought this was going to be on a specific route but according to J0K3RXXX it's going to be in all routes for us and that is a surprise. Why Marilyn is behaving like this? The most logical reason it has something to do with her being injured and hospitalized by our climatic fight with Beeman and rescue of Chloe. Which is reasonable.

2nd WIP dialogue picture: I'm surprised with this picture too and it looks like Nicole's development to have suspicions towards John is increasing and I love that. But I have a feeling if MC (Us) brings Nicole to investigate with MC (Us) something bad or intense will happen.

Can someone message dev Orb about this grammatical error in the line "Everything we've done to keep what have a secret may just be exposed." It should be, "Everything we've done to keep what we have a secret may just be exposed."

I'm confused about Nicole's last line, "I'm not..." Does this mean Nicole isn't going to promise MC (Us) that we're not going to lose her if the possibility we're going to be exposed may be a trap? Or is Nicole hesitating again about her true feelings towards MC (Us) because after she says, "I'm not..." we pause. Indicating or hinting Nicole is hesitating on what she truly wants to say to us.

On where both of these scenes take place I'm going to say most likely it's after Nicole and MC's (Us) "fight" and where we make up. Because bringing Nicole with MC (Us) to investigate John is like the climatic part of Part 15.

Just from the previous teasers and this one makes me more excited about the release of Part 15! I can't wait!:love::love::love:
Wht do u think optimus...when do we get NXT update
 
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I really love this game and I'm looking forward to the next update, I just find it a shame that there aren't many scenes with the other women but hey ^^
 
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I do adore this game. Cannot wait for pt15.

My question is, how do you unlock freely calling Nicole by her name. Played game from start to finish of ch14 dozens of times, still says you haven't unlocked to freely call her Nicole.
According to the walkthrough you have to call Nicole by her name 12 times EXACTLY and not more. I don't know why it has to be exactly 12 times but someone needs to message OrbOrigin about this. I don't know if this is a glitch but the game should allow you to call Nicole by her first name more than 12 times before the bathroom sex scene at Part 9.


Wht do u think optimus...when do we get NXT update
For me, hopefully by December. But I don't like to rush dev Orb so I have to agree with J0K3RXXX prediction that most likely we'll get Part 15 in January or February 2025.
 

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After a long time, just finished the game once again. Having some thoughts about the future story and set up, so I try to share about them and maybe in the future something would be true?


I highly doubt that MC is actually John's kid, and more precisely, MC is Nicole's son. So you can explain that John is interested in MC and having a weird but patient attitude towards MC. And a very good setting for why this game is called "A Mother's Love".

Remember Nicole's flashback about discussing about baby's name with John? John didn't give out the answer, and I think one day the answer would be MC's name in John's answer.

This is to say, Jenny, is actually not the real mother of MC, there might be some story like baby exchange while birth, so MC is taken to Jenny and Hal's family. (If this is the case then John's possible NTR try on Jenny would be less bitter, at least for me lol, not a fan of unpredictable NTR)

I actually have a bolder guess on what happened in the past:

Chole, looks exactly like Nanci, we should easily guess that she is mostly likely the daughter of Nanci, or somehow it should have some connection with Nanci(Since Nanci is very close with Abi and the friends group so if she was ever pregnant then Abi and the friends group should know, but however this setting can be easily explained by adding later that Nanci went somewhere for a year). As for the motivation, it is still reasonable because we know Nanci loves a weak ill guy, so be blackmailed by John is possible.

So MC and Chole were exchanged while birth right? But why would MC go to Jenny and Hal's family instead of Nanci's? Let's imagine.

We know Jenny had a sister, who is sick, and Jenny loves her very much. And this aunt lives in another city, a far place.

If Nanci were blackmailed to have John's baby, she should go to some far place right? So maybe MC's aunt city?

Nanci would surely not want to keep the baby, she devoted her heart to someone else. So, the baby should be given to somebody else to keep.

Poor Chole or MC was given to someone(the exchange may happened in any phrase). And I would guess, MC's aunt, for any reason.

MC's aunt then gave or entrusted the baby to Jenny and Hal, maybe Jenny and Hal can't have kids or something like that, depends on how the creator choose the setting.

So in this way MC and Chole were exchanged, and MC was raised by Jenny and Hal, and Chole was raised by Nicole.



I believe the storyline goes smooth with this setting, some detailed settings might be different depends on how the creator choose to write.


After all, it would be damn exciting for me to see a son fall in love with his real mom and impregnant her, and in the end they decided to stay together and have a new lovely life.:love:
 

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After a long time, just finished the game once again. Having some thoughts about the future story and set up, so I try to share about them and maybe in the future something would be true?


I highly doubt that MC is actually John's kid, and more precisely, MC is Nicole's son. So you can explain that John is interested in MC and having a weird but patient attitude towards MC. And a very good setting for why this game is called "A Mother's Love".

Remember Nicole's flashback about discussing about baby's name with John? John didn't give out the answer, and I think one day the answer would be MC's name in John's answer.

This is to say, Jenny, is actually not the real mother of MC, there might be some story like baby exchange while birth, so MC is taken to Jenny and Hal's family. (If this is the case then John's possible NTR try on Jenny would be less bitter, at least for me lol, not a fan of unpredictable NTR)

I actually have a bolder guess on what happened in the past:

Chole, looks exactly like Nanci, we should easily guess that she is mostly likely the daughter of Nanci, or somehow it should have some connection with Nanci(Since Nanci is very close with Abi and the friends group so if she was ever pregnant then Abi and the friends group should know, but however this setting can be easily explained by adding later that Nanci went somewhere for a year). As for the motivation, it is still reasonable because we know Nanci loves a weak ill guy, so be blackmailed by John is possible.

So MC and Chole were exchanged while birth right? But why would MC go to Jenny and Hal's family instead of Nanci's? Let's imagine.

We know Jenny had a sister, who is sick, and Jenny loves her very much. And this aunt lives in another city, a far place.

If Nanci were blackmailed to have John's baby, she should go to some far place right? So maybe MC's aunt city?

Nanci would surely not want to keep the baby, she devoted her heart to someone else. So, the baby should be given to somebody else to keep.

Poor Chole or MC was given to someone(the exchange may happened in any phrase). And I would guess, MC's aunt, for any reason.

MC's aunt then gave or entrusted the baby to Jenny and Hal, maybe Jenny and Hal can't have kids or something like that, depends on how the creator choose the setting.

So in this way MC and Chole were exchanged, and MC was raised by Jenny and Hal, and Chole was raised by Nicole.



I believe the storyline goes smooth with this setting, some detailed settings might be different depends on how the creator choose to write.


After all, it would be damn exciting for me to see a son fall in love with his real mom and impregnant her, and in the end they decided to stay together and have a new lovely life.:love:
This was interesting to read and I always love to read fan theories about AML in this thread.

I'm not a big fan of MC (Us) being Nicole's son/child theory because it will be incest and that goes against Patreon guidelines. And I remember dev Orb has said in the past (anyone can correct me if I'm wrong here) that there will be no incest in AML. So I highly doubt the whole MC (Us) is truly Nicole's son/child theory will be true. And in my opinion, if this theory becomes true it will ruin the game.

Your theory about Chloe being potentially Nanci's daughter is interesting and it's a possibility. But we'll just have to wait and see if dev Orb will go in that direction. So far, Chloe is not related to Nanci and Abi hasn't given any hints or marks to MC (Us) that Chloe's true mother is Nanci but let's wait and see. If we do find this out with or without Abi telling us, I'm sure we'll have a short argument with her when we find out that Chloe's real mother is Nanci. Like the argument we had in Part 13.
 
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This was interesting to read and I always love to read fan theories about AML in this thread.

I'm not a big fan of MC (Us) being Nicole's son/child theory because it will be incest and that goes against Patreon guidelines. And I remember dev Orb has said in the past (anyone can correct me if I'm wrong here) that there will be no incest in AML. So I highly doubt the whole MC (Us) is truly Nicole's son/child theory will be true. And in my opinion, if this theory becomes true it will ruin the game.

Your theory about Chloe being potentially Nanci's daughter is interesting and it's a possibility. But we'll just have to wait and see if dev Orb will go in that direction. So far, Chloe is not related to Nanci and Abi hasn't given any hints or marks to MC (Us) that Chloe's true mother is Nanci but let's wait and see. If we do find this out with or without Abi telling us, I'm sure we'll have a short argument with her when we find out that Chloe's real mother is Nanci. Like the argument we had in Part 13.
Oh you are right I forgot about the Patreon rules, and what Orb mentioned in the past that there won't be incest in the game (I'm new to the game so I don't know about that). In this case then I also think MC should not be Nicole's kid, but I still believe that MC is John's kid.

Jenny and Hal are just too suspicious and for me they don't like the real parent to MC, and the aunt is also very sus, so I believe the that's why MC would be sent to his aunt's city to discover about the story.

What I thought is that Chole, who is very unlikely to be Nicole's kid and surely has some relation with Nanci, should be a exchange baby. So on the other hand this means that there should be a real Nicole's baby, so I thought about that out of all the chars in the game, very few choices, MC or maybe Mayline? Or maybe Orb will just add new chars to the game? However, I think that would be a bad choice since the story is likely near the end and adding new chars would affect the aura, and if there's a new char that is Nicole's kid then it's going to be one more concern for Nicole and the relation between her and MC.

Gosh, I wish Orb wouldn't do that. Setting MC or Mayline to be Nicole's kid is indeed incest though, at least there're quiet some fans for mom fetish and the game story would be more exciting. And as I know there's still some way to bypass the Patreon rules.

Anyhow, great game and just can't wait for the new chapter, let's see how the story goes:LOL:
 

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According to the walkthrough you have to call Nicole by her name 12 times EXACTLY and not more. I don't know why it has to be exactly 12 times but someone needs to message OrbOrigin about this. I don't know if this is a glitch but the game should allow you to call Nicole by her first name more than 12 times before the bathroom sex scene at Part 9.
I mentioned it to Orb a couple weeks back in a patreon comment(public post, I'm not a sub), he said he thought he fixed it already, but will look into it and fix it.
So hopefully it will be fixed in the next release, we shall see.
 
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Oh you are right I forgot about the Patreon rules, and what Orb mentioned in the past that there won't be incest in the game (I'm new to the game so I don't know about that). In this case then I also think MC should not be Nicole's kid, but I still believe that MC is John's kid.

Jenny and Hal are just too suspicious and for me they don't like the real parent to MC, and the aunt is also very sus, so I believe the that's why MC would be sent to his aunt's city to discover about the story.

What I thought is that Chole, who is very unlikely to be Nicole's kid and surely has some relation with Nanci, should be a exchange baby. So on the other hand this means that there should be a real Nicole's baby, so I thought about that out of all the chars in the game, very few choices, MC or maybe Mayline? Or maybe Orb will just add new chars to the game? However, I think that would be a bad choice since the story is likely near the end and adding new chars would affect the aura, and if there's a new char that is Nicole's kid then it's going to be one more concern for Nicole and the relation between her and MC.

Gosh, I wish Orb wouldn't do that. Setting MC or Mayline to be Nicole's kid is indeed incest though, at least there're quiet some fans for mom fetish and the game story would be more exciting. And as I know there's still some way to bypass the Patreon rules.

Anyhow, great game and just can't wait for the new chapter, let's see how the story goes:LOL:
Another interesting read.

John being MC (Us) kid theory is interesting but it would still classify as incest when it comes to Chloe.

When you mention Jenny and Hal possible not being MC (Us) parents can happen. A user here (I forgot the name of the user here) has shared a theory about it before. The theory is MC's (Us) potential/true parent is his Aunt (I forgot her name).

Are you referring Mayline as Maryline? If you are, because it took me a while to figure it out because there is no character in the named Mayline. :LOL: J0K3RXXX has mentioned a theory here that Marilyn could potentially be John's daughter. And her secret crush on Nicole is her facade for her revenge against John.

When it comes to Chloe not being Nicole's true child/daughter. And a quest for MC (Us) to find Nicole's long lost child will add more story. Dev Orb can potentially add a new character to be Nicole's long-lost child but I agree that we're at a point in the game where adding a new major character is late and we're towards the end of the game. Vicky and Mimi (the sisters) one of them or both could possibly be Nicole's child. If both of them are Nicole's child then John lied to his wife that she gave birth to twins.

I came up with this theory while reading your post. One of the theories may be controversial or a lot of people might not like it but it will provide that there will be no incest in the game and an explanation of Chloe is potentially Nanci's daughter. Here it goes:

Nicole had a miscarriage or her baby died during childbirth:

1.) Nicole had a miscarriage: This is the most controversial theory and I've read before in this thread that some fans and games who have gone this route may not like it. Once Nicole had her miscarriage this affected her and caused her to go into shock and puts her into a coma. While Nicole is in the hospital recovering, Nanci gives birth to Chloe. For whatever on why Nanci can't keep Chloe. Perhaps this is where Nanci and John affair theory kicks in. John sees this as an opportunity. He and Nanci negotiate. John will keep Chloe and Nanci will be free from John and perhaps all the trauma she faced with John and leaving her baby will result in her committing suicide like the game told us.

Once John gets Chloe. He convinced the doctors, nurse, and the hospital to set everything up in Nicole's room as she gave birth to a new baby. Once Nicole's wakes up she doesn't recall anything about her miscarriage. The reason for that is her shock is extravagant this causes her memory to be faulty. With her room as a setting as she gave birth and with John's plans she is convinced that she gave birth to Chloe.

I'm not 100 percent confident that this theory will come true because it's controversial. I'm just saying it's a possibility.

2.) Nicole's baby died during childbirth: This has a possibility to happen in real life. Once Nicole gives birth to her baby the baby isn't crying or something is wrong with the baby. The doctors and nurses try everything but no luck the baby dies and Nicole goes into shock and goes into a coma. While Nicole is recovering the events I explained in "Nicole had a miscarriage theory" will exactly play out. The only difference I will change in this scenario is Nanci's. She could give birth at the same time as Nicole but another scenario is she has already given birth to Chloe. Then John starts his diabolical switch plan I mentioned in my "Nicole had a miscarriage theory". The only difference is the aftermath.

Nicole wakes up and sees John carrying Chloe. Seeing this convinces her that her true baby dying at childbirth was a bad dream but in reality, her true baby died.

I have more confidence in this theory and like this theory more. Not because it's less controversial but makes more sense.

What do you guys think? Which theory do you like the most?


I mentioned it to Orb a couple weeks back in a patreon comment(public post, I'm not a sub), he said he thought he fixed it already, but will look into it and fix it.
So hopefully it will be fixed in the next release, we shall see.
Thank you MagicMan753!:love:

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Thank you for sharing again Raminita!:love::love::love:
 
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Thank you very much for this new share, Raminita.

After a long time, just finished the game once again. Having some thoughts about the future story and set up, so I try to share about them and maybe in the future something would be true?


I highly doubt that MC is actually John's kid, and more precisely, MC is Nicole's son. So you can explain that John is interested in MC and having a weird but patient attitude towards MC. And a very good setting for why this game is called "A Mother's Love".

Remember Nicole's flashback about discussing about baby's name with John? John didn't give out the answer, and I think one day the answer would be MC's name in John's answer.

This is to say, Jenny, is actually not the real mother of MC, there might be some story like baby exchange while birth, so MC is taken to Jenny and Hal's family. (If this is the case then John's possible NTR try on Jenny would be less bitter, at least for me lol, not a fan of unpredictable NTR)

I actually have a bolder guess on what happened in the past:

Chole, looks exactly like Nanci, we should easily guess that she is mostly likely the daughter of Nanci, or somehow it should have some connection with Nanci(Since Nanci is very close with Abi and the friends group so if she was ever pregnant then Abi and the friends group should know, but however this setting can be easily explained by adding later that Nanci went somewhere for a year). As for the motivation, it is still reasonable because we know Nanci loves a weak ill guy, so be blackmailed by John is possible.

So MC and Chole were exchanged while birth right? But why would MC go to Jenny and Hal's family instead of Nanci's? Let's imagine.

We know Jenny had a sister, who is sick, and Jenny loves her very much. And this aunt lives in another city, a far place.

If Nanci were blackmailed to have John's baby, she should go to some far place right? So maybe MC's aunt city?

Nanci would surely not want to keep the baby, she devoted her heart to someone else. So, the baby should be given to somebody else to keep.

Poor Chole or MC was given to someone(the exchange may happened in any phrase). And I would guess, MC's aunt, for any reason.

MC's aunt then gave or entrusted the baby to Jenny and Hal, maybe Jenny and Hal can't have kids or something like that, depends on how the creator choose the setting.

So in this way MC and Chole were exchanged, and MC was raised by Jenny and Hal, and Chole was raised by Nicole.



I believe the storyline goes smooth with this setting, some detailed settings might be different depends on how the creator choose to write.


After all, it would be damn exciting for me to see a son fall in love with his real mom and impregnant her, and in the end they decided to stay together and have a new lovely life.:love:
This was interesting to read and I always love to read fan theories about AML in this thread.

I'm not a big fan of MC (Us) being Nicole's son/child theory because it will be incest and that goes against Patreon guidelines. And I remember dev Orb has said in the past (anyone can correct me if I'm wrong here) that there will be no incest in AML. So I highly doubt the whole MC (Us) is truly Nicole's son/child theory will be true. And in my opinion, if this theory becomes true it will ruin the game.

Your theory about Chloe being potentially Nanci's daughter is interesting and it's a possibility. But we'll just have to wait and see if dev Orb will go in that direction. So far, Chloe is not related to Nanci and Abi hasn't given any hints or marks to MC (Us) that Chloe's true mother is Nanci but let's wait and see. If we do find this out with or without Abi telling us, I'm sure we'll have a short argument with her when we find out that Chloe's real mother is Nanci. Like the argument we had in Part 13.
Oh you are right I forgot about the Patreon rules, and what Orb mentioned in the past that there won't be incest in the game (I'm new to the game so I don't know about that). In this case then I also think MC should not be Nicole's kid, but I still believe that MC is John's kid.

Jenny and Hal are just too suspicious and for me they don't like the real parent to MC, and the aunt is also very sus, so I believe the that's why MC would be sent to his aunt's city to discover about the story.

What I thought is that Chole, who is very unlikely to be Nicole's kid and surely has some relation with Nanci, should be a exchange baby. So on the other hand this means that there should be a real Nicole's baby, so I thought about that out of all the chars in the game, very few choices, MC or maybe Mayline? Or maybe Orb will just add new chars to the game? However, I think that would be a bad choice since the story is likely near the end and adding new chars would affect the aura, and if there's a new char that is Nicole's kid then it's going to be one more concern for Nicole and the relation between her and MC.

Gosh, I wish Orb wouldn't do that. Setting MC or Mayline to be Nicole's kid is indeed incest though, at least there're quiet some fans for mom fetish and the game story would be more exciting. And as I know there's still some way to bypass the Patreon rules.

Anyhow, great game and just can't wait for the new chapter, let's see how the story goes:LOL:
Another interesting read.

John being MC (Us) kid theory is interesting but it would still classify as incest when it comes to Chloe.

When you mention Jenny and Hal possible not being MC (Us) parents can happen. A user here (I forgot the name of the user here) has shared a theory about it before. The theory is MC's (Us) potential/true parent is his Aunt (I forgot her name).

Are you referring Mayline as Maryline? If you are, because it took me a while to figure it out because there is no character in the named Mayline. :LOL: J0K3RXXX has mentioned a theory here that Marilyn could potentially be John's daughter. And her secret crush on Nicole is her facade for her revenge against John.

When it comes to Chloe not being Nicole's true child/daughter. And a quest for MC (Us) to find Nicole's long lost child will add more story. Dev Orb can potentially add a new character to be Nicole's long-lost child but I agree that we're at a point in the game where adding a new major character is late and we're towards the end of the game. Vicky and Mimi (the sisters) one of them or both could possibly be Nicole's child. If both of them are Nicole's child then John lied to his wife that she gave birth to twins.

I came up with this theory while reading your post. One of the theories may be controversial or a lot of people might not like it but it will provide that there will be no incest in the game and an explanation of Chloe is potentially Nanci's daughter. Here it goes:

Nicole had a miscarriage or her baby died during childbirth:

1.) Nicole had a miscarriage: This is the most controversial theory and I've read before in this thread that some fans and games who have gone this route may not like it. Once Nicole had her miscarriage this affected her and caused her to go into shock and puts her into a coma. While Nicole is in the hospital recovering, Nanci gives birth to Chloe. For whatever on why Nanci can't keep Chloe. Perhaps this is where Nanci and John affair theory kicks in. John sees this as an opportunity. He and Nanci negotiate. John will keep Chloe and Nanci will be free from John and perhaps all the trauma she faced with John and leaving her baby will result in her committing suicide like the game told us.

Once John gets Chloe. He convinced the doctors, nurse, and the hospital to set everything up in Nicole's room as she gave birth to a new baby. Once Nicole's wakes up she doesn't recall anything about her miscarriage. The reason for that is her shock is extravagant this causes her memory to be faulty. With her room as a setting as she gave birth and with John's plans she is convinced that she gave birth to Chloe.

I'm not 100 percent confident that this theory will come true because it's controversial. I'm just saying it's a possibility.

2.) Nicole's baby died during childbirth: This has a possibility to happen in real life. Once Nicole gives birth to her baby the baby isn't crying or something is wrong with the baby. The doctors and nurses try everything but no luck the baby dies and Nicole goes into shock and goes into a coma. While Nicole is recovering the events I explained in "Nicole had a miscarriage theory" will exactly play out. The only difference I will change in this scenario is Nanci's. She could give birth at the same time as Nicole but another scenario is she has already given birth to Chloe. Then John starts his diabolical switch plan I mentioned in my "Nicole had a miscarriage theory". The only difference is the aftermath.

Nicole wakes up and sees John carrying Chloe. Seeing this convinces her that her true baby dying at childbirth was a bad dream but in reality, her true baby died.

I have more confidence in this theory and like this theory more. Not because it's less controversial but makes more sense.

What do you guys think? Which theory do you like the most?



Thank you MagicMan753!:love:


Thank you for sharing again Raminita!:love::love::love:
Interesting theories, Optimus69420 and Noviceh. Personally, I came up with a somewhat similar theory when we discovered the extraordinary resemblance between Chloe and Nanci, Abi's deceased sister:

Nicole was pregnant but lost the child during childbirth and was left unconscious without knowing the fateful outcome. At the same time, a depressed Nanci (either because of Gavin's disappearance or because his body was discovered some six months after his death) gives birth to her and Gavin's biological daughter. While John receives the bad news and, perhaps after seeing his stillborn child's corpse, he wanders around the hospital without really knowing where he is going, reflecting on how to break the bad news to his wife.

It is at that moment that he finds out that a woman who has just given birth does not want her newborn daughter, intending to give her up for adoption. He then considers that it is a divine solution where he could save his wife from suffering and manages to convince that woman to give him that newborn girl and pays the doctors so that they never divulge that that girl is his by adoption. In that way, by the time Nicole wakes up, she believes that she has given birth to that girl that she and her husband name Chloe.

Nevertheless, John Heavens can't stop thinking that Nanci might regret her decision at any time in the future, and if that happens, Nicole will discover that her real biological child died in childbirth and that her husband has hidden it from her, so he decides to take matters into his own hands: He kills Nanci, making it look like a suicide (somewhat realistic if John knows about the recent discovery of Gavin's body and Nanci's relationship with the deceased young man, since the suicide can be attributed to the depression caused by Gavin's death) and destroys all evidence that there was an adoption and the probable financial payment to keep Nanci quiet about it.

However, Abi was about to catch him (if I remember correctly, Abi confesses that she became a nurse because when she discovered her sister, she still had a chance of being saved, but her lack of knowledge of how to do so prevented her from achieving it) but she didn't find any foul play, but John doesn't trust it at all, so he begins to have more frequent and closer contact with Tom Beeman, an acquaintance of his whom he met a long time ago by chance due to their shared passion for History and who he knows Beeman is someone close to the sisters Abi and Nanci, in order to ensure that he has gone unpunished for his crime.

Nonetheless, despite all the sacrifices and risks he made to try to prevent his wife from finding out the truth, John could no longer see her as his beloved wife of before (perhaps he subconsciously held her responsible for the death of the stillborn child, and it didn't help that she never got pregnant again) and they gradually grew apart, although Nicole didn't realize it, blaming it on his all-consuming job. It would be then when John began his affairs and subsequently lost all sexual appetite when it came to his wife (remember the night of Day 8, when Nicole really tries to have sex with her husband, trying to give him a boner through a blowjob and getting on top of his manhood, without any success despite the fact that it would be an automatic physiological reaction with a simple physical stimulation like the one she does, so I think John, consciously or unconsciously, feels genuine disgust and physical repulsion for his wife's body, something that has only subsided when he has realized the physical changes of Nicole or because he has found indications of what is really going on between her and MC).

On the other hand, regarding the possibility of MC being Nicole and John's lost son for unknown reasons, I completely rule it out as it would not only go against Patreon's increasingly censorious policies (something that Orb has always tried to avoid), but it could irreparably damage the game's plot, as it is progressing.

What would indeed be possible is that MC was the product of an affair between John and Aunt Martha, who gave the child to her sister and brother-in-law since they wanted to have children of their own but could not. That would explain the reasons why John would want to keep MC close while MC's parents would want to break up MC and Chloe's relationship. However, I believe more in another similar theory:

I rather believe that MC is indeed Aunt Martha's biological son, but not John's, but rather the result of a relationship with someone unknown that went wrong and she gave the child to her infertile sister so that she and her husband could be parents.

Finally, let's hope there's some new preview of Part 15 today. For the past few weeks, Orb has been publishing a preview of its WIP content every Sunday, except for last Sunday, although that might have been because he published those Halloween screenshots shortly before.
 
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Thank you very much for this new share, Raminita.





Interesting theories, Optimus69420 and Noviceh. Personally, I came up with a somewhat similar theory when we discovered the extraordinary resemblance between Chloe and Nanci, Abi's deceased sister:

Nicole was pregnant but lost the child during childbirth and was left unconscious without knowing the fateful outcome. At the same time, a depressed Nanci (either because of Gavin's disappearance or because his body was discovered some six months after his death) gives birth to her and Gavin's biological daughter. While John receives the bad news and, perhaps after seeing his stillborn child's corpse, he wanders around the hospital without really knowing where he is going, reflecting on how to break the bad news to his wife.

It is at that moment that he finds out that a woman who has just given birth does not want her newborn daughter, intending to give her up for adoption. He then considers that it is a divine solution where he could save his wife from suffering and manages to convince that woman to give him that newborn girl and pays the doctors so that they never divulge that that girl is his by adoption. In that way, by the time Nicole wakes up, she believes that she has given birth to that girl that she and her husband name Chloe.

Nevertheless, John Heavens can't stop thinking that Nanci might regret her decision at any time in the future, and if that happens, Nicole will discover that her real biological child died in childbirth and that her husband has hidden it from her, so he decides to take matters into his own hands: He kills Nanci, making it look like a suicide (somewhat realistic if John knows about the recent discovery of Gavin's body and Nanci's relationship with the deceased young man, since the suicide can be attributed to the depression caused by Gavin's death) and destroys all evidence that there was an adoption and the probable financial payment to keep Nanci quiet about it.

However, Abi was about to catch him (if I remember correctly, Abi confesses that she became a nurse because when she discovered her sister, she still had a chance of being saved, but her lack of knowledge of how to do so prevented her from achieving it) but she didn't find any foul play, but John doesn't trust it at all, so he begins to have more frequent and closer contact with Tom Beeman, an acquaintance of his whom he met a long time ago by chance due to their shared passion for History and who he knows Beeman is someone close to the sisters Abi and Nanci, in order to ensure that he has gone unpunished for his crime.

Nonetheless, despite all the sacrifices and risks he made to try to prevent his wife from finding out the truth, John could no longer see her as his beloved wife of before (perhaps he subconsciously held her responsible for the death of the stillborn child, and it didn't help that she never got pregnant again) and they gradually grew apart, although Nicole didn't realize it, blaming it on his all-consuming job. It would be then when John began his affairs and subsequently lost all sexual appetite when it came to his wife (remember the night of Day 8, when Nicole really tries to have sex with her husband, trying to give him a boner through a blowjob and getting on top of his manhood, without any success despite the fact that it would be an automatic physiological reaction with a simple physical stimulation like the one she does, so I think John, consciously or unconsciously, feels genuine disgust and physical repulsion for his wife's body, something that has only subsided when he has realized the physical changes of Nicole or because he has found indications of what is really going on between her and MC).

On the other hand, regarding the possibility of MC being Nicole and John's lost son for unknown reasons, I completely rule it out as it would not only go against Patreon's increasingly censorious policies (something that Orb has always tried to avoid), but it could irreparably damage the game's plot, as it is progressing.

What would indeed be possible is that MC was the product of an affair between John and Aunt Martha, who gave the child to her sister and brother-in-law since they wanted to have children of their own but could not. That would explain the reasons why John would want to keep MC close while MC's parents would want to break up MC and Chloe's relationship. However, I believe more in another similar theory:

I rather believe that MC is indeed Aunt Martha's biological son, but not John's, but rather the result of a relationship with someone unknown that went wrong and he gave the child to his infertile sister so that she and her husband could be parents.

Finally, let's hope there's some new preview of Part 15 today. For the past few weeks, Orb has been publishing a preview of its WIP content every Sunday, except for last Sunday, although that might have been because he published those Halloween screenshots shortly before.
Thank you J0K3RXXX for liking my theory! :love: :love: :love: And I really love the extra details you added to the "Nicole's baby died at childbirth" theory. Which makes me want this theory to come true and it does make more sense. If this theory becomes true in the future parts of AML and in MC (Us) investigation of John's secrets it would make MC (Us) & Nicole's child really special, especially towards Nicole & John.

MC (Us) & Nicole's baby special perspective theory:
  • Nicole's perspective: If Nicole finds out that her real baby died during childbirth if she discovers the news by herself (possibly in Part 15 dialogue teaser that was shared here) or MC (Us) tells her the news. I'm sure Nicole will be both angry at John and at the same time sad on how she lost her firstborn which MC (Us) will comfort her. After taking in this shocking news, hopefully, this will lead Nicole to lose all faith in John and leave him.

    This will also help develop her feelings towards MC (Us) more. In addition, carrying MC (Our) baby more special because Nicole is pregnant again. I'm going to assume and most likely this will lead to both MC (Us) and Nicole having sex.

  • John's perspective: All I can say is it's about finding a rightful heir for him. He finally has the opportunity that the wife he has despised all over the years who lost his firstborn and couldn't get pregnant is finally pregnant again. And starts his plan to get rid of MC (Us).
My only question is when you mentioned Beeman. So what you're trying to say is, that John orchestrated or made a deal with Beeman so that Beeman can be with Chloe?

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As for the whole MC (Us) being Nicole and John's lost son. I agree with you and I completely rule it out too. Besides it being against Patreon guidelines and dev Orb has said mulitple times that there will be no incest in the game. I agree with you that it will ruin the game and it will ruin MC (Us) and Nicole's relationship. Especially for players who are in the love path with Nicole such as myself.

For the theory with MC (Us) being John and Aunt Martha's son. If this will follow the "Nicole's baby died at childbirth" theory it's a possibility that it can happen. But it somewhat contradicts on how John wants to send MC (Us) to live with his Aunt Martha. But I'm more inclined to believe your other theory.

And that is MC (Us) is indeed Aunt Martha's biological son but not John's theory. This can happen alongside the "Nicole's baby died at childbirth" theory.

I really hope the "Nicole's baby died at childbirth" & "MC (Us) is only Aunt Martha's biological son" will both happen at the same time later in the game. If these two theories were to come true, which means both MC (Us) and Nicole will face very emotional news and it brings a great opportunity for them to comfort each other and increase their feelings towards each other.
 

J0K3RXXX

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My only question is when you mentioned Beeman. So what you're trying to say is, that John orchestrated or made a deal with Beeman so that Beeman can be with Chloe?
When I was referring to Beeman in that theory, I wasn't referring to John even imagining Beeman's obsessive attraction to Chloe. John Heavens may be a heartless man, but I highly doubt he would knowingly hand over the child he raised with Nicole to the filthy Beeman.

I was just referring to the fact that John would try to make sure he wasn't discovered by anyone, always according to that theory. To do this, I would try to maintain close contact with someone close to Nanci's family for a realistic reason (their common passion for History). Also, if this theory were to come true and Beeman found out the truth, I wouldn't be surprised if he would kill John if the latter went to jail (or maybe Beeman would go into such a state of madness that he managed to escape from jail to kill John with his own hands).
 
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