like your post.No sex sound, moaning. What a waste...
This theory is very interesting. We discussed it before, and I misinterpreted it at the time as Marilyn using her spell to get Nicole all for herself. It's my fault, and my brain processes things slowly.About this comment, I don't know if you know that there is an interesting fan theory about it. In this theory, Chloe has been affected in all the major routes by the spell performed by Marilyn whose final intention was to make Nicole fall madly in love with MC (she took advantage of the morning of Day 4, when she sneaked into MC's bedroom to rummage through his mind, an event that occurs in all possible routes of the game), but its outcome varies in each major route of the game:
What do you think of the theory?
- In the routes where Chloe cheats on MC with their disgusting History teacher (the routes titled "Chloe is Strange" and "Chloe is no longer MC's girlfriend"), MC has neglected and/or lied to Chloe enough for her to fall into this affair with Beeman. This would be because when the spell MC carried inside him was unleashed on the person closest to MC, it was not Nicole but Chloe, and since her feelings towards MC were of a negative nature, the spell remained hibernating inside her waiting for someone to provoke positive feelings of that type, something that only happened when she was with Beeman. That would explain the obsessive fanaticism with which Chloe accepts her forbidden affair with Beeman. The crucial difference between the two routes is based on the player's choice after MC discovers on Day 6 the affair between his girlfriend and his History teacher, during a talk with Marilyn:
- If the player chooses the option of not forgetting Chloe, MC will maintain the relationship with her and during Day 10 he will notice the differences in how she treats him and Beeman sexually, which will generate doubts that he will raise with Marilyn, who will try to dismiss them until Day 13 when MC discovers a magic circle under Chloe's bed and questions Marilyn about it, who confesses her twisted secret plan and how it must have backfired. This is the route known as Chloe is Strange.
- If the player chooses to forget Chloe once and for all, MC will accept the facts and decides to focus exclusively on Nicole, as Marilyn has recommended to him. As a result, Chloe will break up with him after her family dinner at the steakhouse on Day 7 and they will each go their separate ways, except when Chloe wants to give the impression to her parents that they are still together in order to hide her true relationship with Beeman. Since MC is no longer in a relationship with Chloe, he won't notice Chloe's differences in sexual treatment when it comes to him versus Beeman. This is the route known as Chloe is no longer MC's girlfriend, and neither MC nor Marilyn should suspect that there is a badly done spell by Marilyn because MC would not know anything and Marilyn would believe that it has gone well, given the progress of the relationship between MC and Nicole, and that the progress of the affair between Chloe and Beeman is due to the fact that she must be resentful of MC and for that reason she has become entangled with the man that MC hates the most.
- In the route where Chloe remains MC's faithful girlfriend, Marilyn's spell would have been triggered when MC was near Chloe, and since she had positive feelings of that kind towards MC, the spell worked perfectly on her, directing all her affection towards him despite the various future moments where he cuts short their moments together to be with his beloved Nicole. Therefore, he would not know about the existence of a spell cast on Chloe as he would believe that the lovestruck Chloe is still in love with him, without anything strange driving her to do so. Meanwhile, in Marilyn's case, she would not believe that her spell backfired because she does know about the continued progress of the forbidden relationship between MC and Nicole and Chloe's behavior would seem to her to be that of a girl in love with her boyfriend, without knowing or catching a glimpse of the closeness between him and her mother.
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I never played through the Chloe is Strange path so I never knew about the magic spell. This theory is very credible and infact I think this is what Orb wanted to convey if what you said about the magic circle under Chloe's bed is true on Chloe is Strange path.What do you think of the theory?
This is most probably how Orb will proceed with the game but I wish we had the luxury of baby belly renders T_TI highly doubt that we will see Nicole Heavens with a noticeable baby belly.
It is quite possible that Marilyn did not have enough confidence that MC, a young man who has just come of age and is the boyfriend of her only daughter, will succeed in corrupting Nicole, an adult housewife apparently completely happy with her married and family life.This theory is very interesting. We discussed it before, and I misinterpreted it at the time as Marilyn using her spell to get Nicole all for herself. It's my fault, and my brain processes things slowly.
My only question is why would Marilyn go to the trouble of making a spell to make Nicole fall in love with the MC (Us)? Does she have no confidence in MC (Us) that MC (Us) couldn't court Nicole?
In my previous post I forgot to put a detail: if that fan theory is true, it would explain much better why Chloe Heavens is still in that coma, since perhaps it is the product of the strong clash within her psyche, between her survival instinct and the feelings generated and enhanced by the spell (if Chloe has that affair with Beeman, those feelings would be towards Beeman; if Chloe remains faithful to her boyfriend, she feels that way towards MC and as long as Beeman would leave the badly injured MC alone, she was agreeing to run away with their disgusting History teacher for the sake of her young boyfriend).I never played through the Chloe is Strange path so I never knew about the magic spell. This theory is very credible and infact I think this is what Orb wanted to convey if what you said about the magic circle under Chloe's bed is true on Chloe is Strange path.
This is most probably how Orb will proceed with the game but I wish we had the luxury of baby belly renders T_T
Yeah, I guess you're right. Knowing Marilyn's character, she would have no confidence in MC (US) if MC (US) could make Nicole fall in love with him the natural way. Well, it's a good thing her spell backfired. If the spell were to succeed, in my opinion, it would've ruined the love story between MC (US) and Nicole.It is quite possible that Marilyn did not have enough confidence that MC, a young man who has just come of age and is the boyfriend of her only daughter, will succeed in corrupting Nicole, an adult housewife apparently completely happy with her married and family life.
Perhaps Marilyn believed that Nicole Heavens would sooner rather than later completely shut down MC's attempts to make progress with her once her daughter Chloe received her final grades, but both MC and Nicole pleasantly surprised her.
Furthermore, we must not forget that Marilyn has her own romantic interest in Nicole and perhaps that spell not only made the final target of the spell fall madly in love with the one who unconsciously carried the spell, but also to reach further levels of corruption and submission (for example, making it possible in the near future that, if the bearer of the spell (MC) suggested a threesome, an orgy or a lesbian relationship to the final target (Nicole), the final target would accept it without any hesitation).
I really like this theory too and I hope it comes true. But it would be somewhat weird since I remember we had a couple of scenes where Marilyn showed her feelings toward Nicole to MC (US) by reading her erotic story and Marilyn smelling Nicole's panties. Or this could be another layer of decoy to hide Marilyn's true intentions. I guess we'll just have to wait and see for future updates for 'A Mother's Love'.However, we shouldn't dismiss the various fan theories that have been appearing about the possibility that Marilyn's interest in Nicole is just a decoy to hide her true interest in the Heavens family, probably to get revenge on John for something the latter might have done in the past to her family (after all, we've only heard about Marilyn's family from the grandmother she currently lives with, and the mother, who was the first woman MC noticed when he was a kid, after playing a prank on her by soaking her with the hose; If I recall correctly, Marilyn's father has never been mentioned and the few mentions of her mother seem to be in the past tense, implying that she is dead).
Wait till you see the guy you're cucking he looks like a vampirefirst glance the cg actually looks good compared to the other games with scary 3d characters
I am Also waitingSix months and still no release date, the wait is too long
Now that you mentioned that, I was reminded of a small detail from that morning on Day 4: When MC goes to visit Nicole’s house to see her and not her daughter (the latter only happens when the player’s choices cause MC to want to study with his girlfriend or when the latter discovers that MC has deceived her regarding his talk with her mother, increasing her suspicions about him), Chloe unexpectedly returns to her house (causing the initial intimate moment between MC and Nicole to be delayed to the couch scene where he finds her asleep after her masturbation session), apparently because she received an anonymous message asking her to come back.Yeah, I guess you're right. Knowing Marilyn's character, she would have no confidence in MC (US) if MC (US) could make Nicole fall in love with him the natural way. Well, it's a good thing her spell backfired. If the spell were to succeed, in my opinion, it would've ruined the love story between MC (US) and Nicole.
I think we can safely say that we can expect anything from Marilyn. However, I think that Marilyn's attraction to Nicole is true, but this does not invalidate the fact that her recent closeness to MC (let's not forget that before Day 1, MC seems to have had very little contact with her recently) is the result of her having a grand plan involving MC and the Heavens in order to get revenge on John.I really like this theory too and I hope it comes true. But it would be somewhat weird since I remember we had a couple of scenes where Marilyn showed her feelings toward Nicole to MC (US) by reading her erotic story and Marilyn smelling Nicole's panties. Or this could be another layer of decoy to hide Marilyn's true intentions. I guess we'll just have to wait and see for future updates for 'A Mother's Love'.
Perhaps Marilyn's spell only works if the significant other has strong feelings for the MC (US). So during that moment the only person who has strong feelings is Chloe and Nicole only had a mindset of disgust towards MC (US). I will continue to say this, I'm still glad that the spell backfired because if the spell worked it would ruined the love feelings between MC (US) & Nicole.Now that you mentioned that, I was reminded of a small detail from that morning on Day 4: When MC goes to visit Nicole’s house to see her and not her daughter (the latter only happens when the player’s choices cause MC to want to study with his girlfriend or when the latter discovers that MC has deceived her regarding his talk with her mother, increasing her suspicions about him), Chloe unexpectedly returns to her house (causing the initial intimate moment between MC and Nicole to be delayed to the couch scene where he finds her asleep after her masturbation session), apparently because she received an anonymous message asking her to come back.
Given what we know about the story, it's almost 100% certain that the person who sent that anonymous text to Chloe was MC's nosy camgirl friend named Marilyn (who has woken MC up that morning in every possible route in the game and knows that he's going to visit that house).
With all this, I wonder what Marilyn's true intentions were in this regard, since the interaction with Chloe was where the spell should have acted on her. Maybe Marilyn realized beforehand that the spell went wrong or she regretted it at the last moment and intended to prevent it from affecting Nicole? Or perhaps the spell had no time limit and should have acted on someone with strong feelings towards the host (MC), but since at that moment Nicole had them but they were from two different extremes (on one hand she hated the corruption that MC was doing, but on the other, that same corruption was giving her something that she had longed for for a long time: to be truly desired by a man), that caused Nicole not to be the one affected, Chloe being the one affected because her strong feelings towards MC were mostly from one extreme?
It would be a real shock if MC (US) found out Marilyn's true intention. I have a feeling we'll get angry at Marilyn if MC (US) found out she's using us.I think we can safely say that we can expect anything from Marilyn. However, I think that Marilyn's attraction to Nicole is true, but this does not invalidate the fact that her recent closeness to MC (let's not forget that before Day 1, MC seems to have had very little contact with her recently) is the result of her having a grand plan involving MC and the Heavens in order to get revenge on John.
Remember what Marilyn tells MC about it in the Chloe is Strange route:Perhaps Marilyn's spell only works if the significant other has strong feelings for the MC (US). So during that moment the only person who has strong feelings is Chloe and Nicole only had a mindset of disgust towards MC (US). I will continue to say this, I'm still glad that the spell backfired because if the spell worked it would ruined the love feelings between MC (US) & Nicole.
Well, I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of AML fans are already pissed off at her, at least to some degree.It would be a real shock if MC (US) found out Marilyn's true intention. I have a feeling we'll get angry at Marilyn if MC (US) found out she's using us.
I did not even played that path but mere existence of it makes me disgust. I've seen fair share of disgusting things but this is whole another level."It wasn't until when Beeman was there to offer comfort to Chloe, the bonding spell senses the positive emotions between the two, thus created the bond between Chloe and Beeman that we're aware today."
Firstly, I have no clue about rendering and the time it takes.I think that number might be even worse in 2025 if Nicole stays pregnant for a few updates since it will practically double rendering time. But if we don't see her pregnant body until the ending then it'll be the same I guess.
We all hope for more then two in 2025, but we will take them as we get them.....
Personally, I think that this new 2025 will bring at least three updates, as it seems that Orb will no longer be burdened by the stress of finding a housing solution and after a period of adaptation to be able to normally work on his NSFW work in a place where he must be more cautious about it, I think he will get the hang of it. Also, as the timeline of AML's story progresses, I highly doubt that we will see Nicole Heavens with a noticeable baby belly.
Happy New Year to everyone.
Yes this is why I said it would take double time IF dev decides to add a baby belly soon.there has to be renders for pregnant Nicole and not pregnant Nicole and that's why double the time?
I haven't played through the 'Chloe is Strange" route but this is very interesting.Remember what Marilyn tells MC about it in the Chloe is Strange route:
- "I placed something in your body hoping to benefit from it."
- "If things had turned out the way I intended, your sweet Nicole would've been under your influence."
- "Tell her to go North, she'll go. Tell her to go South, she'll go South."
- "And tell her to become your undying love interest, she might even consider dumping her family to be with you."
- "But of course, that's just too good to be true."
- "A simple miscalculation and it went down the drain, heading down a completely different path."
- "This bonding spell needed time to mature, and I was completely unaware of it when I casted it on you."
- "When the spell matured inside you, it needed another person full of emotions to act as its next host."
- "Unfortunately, when it matured, you weren't with Nicole."
- "However, I do have a theory about what happened."
- "By default, the spell had transfer itself onto Chloe when it was matured."
- "The link between you and Chloe existed then, however, the spell I cast is a positive spell."
- "An positive spell must use a positive energy."
- "Affectionate emotion was needed to be a source of its positive energy."
- "But the emotions between you and Chloe at the time were negative, causing the spell to deny to you, its main host."
- "The spell then stayed within Chloe and without a positive energy it remained inactive." (this dialogue line is said by MC, but I think it's a code typo).
- "It wasn't until when Beeman was there to offer comfort to Chloe, the bonding spell senses the positive emotions between the two, thus created the bond between Chloe and Beeman that we're aware today."
So from the dialogue and what you're trying to say, the reasons why the spell didn't work on Nicole are because:Taking into account this data (although given by Marilyn, who we could call an unreliable character), the spell could have affected Nicole Heavens (although taking into account the true bond between she and MC at the time of their story, we do not know if it would be to bond them or distance them since the corruption that MC was doing to Nicole at that time awakened mixed feelings in her, both positive and negative) if it had not been for that (supposed) maturation time that the spell needed.
That's a very HOT and high-level of corruption for Nicole if Chloe ever discovered them red-handed if the spell worked on Nicole.So if we were to fully believe what Marilyn is telling MC, perhaps her goal in sending that anonymous text message to Chloe was to test how quickly the spell could affect Nicole, because perhaps she thought that the spell would act immediately with all its force and she imagined a situation where Chloe would catch them red-handed and Nicole, instead of trying to solve the mess what would form after that, would show that she didn't give a damn about it, letting MC continue fucking her as if Chloe hadn't discovered them.
That's true. I guess I would be angry too if the theory turns out to be true. But I'll think something positive at the same time and that is, Marilyn's spell backfired and Nicole does truly love MC (US).Well, I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of AML fans are already pissed off at her, at least to some degree.
Imagine the uproar among the AML fandom if this theory turns out to be true...
That's true and Marilyn has been helping out MC (US) a lot throughout the game. Do you think the 'Marilyn friendship' points will have an impact if we find out the theory is true? Also, I just thought if this, how will it impact MC's (US) relationship with Nicole?However, even though MC will be very very very upset with her if this theory is correct, I think in the end he will see the positive side of her, especially when she wanted to accompany him on the mission to save Chloe from Beeman.
This is also true. I guess we just have to wait and see who's Marilyn's true target of her revenge plot.However, even though MC will be very very very upset with her if this theory is correct, I think in the end he will see the positive side of her, especially when she wanted to accompany him on the mission to save Chloe from Beeman. It would also depend on her hypothetical reasons for wanting revenge on John Heavens... and/or Chloe Heavens (throughout the game, especially in the routes where Chloe has sex with Beeman, we can see a certain animosity between the two girls. And what better way to destroy the stability of a know-it-all girl like Chloe than to make her suffer because of her parents' divorce caused by the affair between her mother and her boyfriend? Perhaps Chloe bullied her in the past and Marilyn, using her psychic powers that she now seems to have mastered to a certain degree, wants to get revenge on her).