VN Ren'Py A Mother's Love [Part 1-15 Plus] [OrbOrigin]

[Garrettino]

I don’t remember how I completed the game because 2 years have passed... that’s all I can remember, I was on the path 50%50 romance and corruption, although I can’t remember exactly... do you mean that they didn’t have sex, purely theoretically? It’s just strange for me no matter what path we chose, because the Dev promised that Nicole belongs only to Mc...

Well this is the fallacy from the get-go, from many NTR-hater/fearers here, delusional types, or purely just romantic (I get it tho). If you're in a NETORI themed game (let's be real, that's what this game is) you're stealing her, from HIM, not the other way around. Essentially you're playing the "Bad Guy" by monogamous traditional standards...

{Reality Check}: They've had sex before, Chloe is proof of that, and they're still married, even if he neglects her. Sure you probably don't want to show that, for this fan-base, which he mostly didn't... but that's why he reserved it for the Corrupt path, fans, who are more inclined to NTR, niche kinks, other fetishes and won't be as easily offended, nor turned off.
Both cases, THEY HAD SEX, last night, that's been established in unspoken reaction by Nicole and follow up dialogue by John. This isn't up for debate . But people saying it was NEVER SHOWN is the only part I'm disproving. Again, as I've explained, it's MC's personal interpretation of how it went down, he wasn't there obviously... but it's still a visual aide, that I'm sure most of you on "That Half" will not be happy to see. So it was also serving as a warning/disclaimer, to avoid that path if you were curious.

I do agree, it was kinda unfair to NOT have any lewds for the Romance guys... but that's the breaks, for most of these games honestly. The payoff typically is, less lewd scenes early on, but the payoff is at the end. Maybe with marriage, and honeymoon sex scenes, or more intimate scenes, but overall, of the 800+ games on this site I have tried, Corruption is King if you're talking a [SCENE REPLAY] tally. So my suggestion is keep a LOVE path for yourself, as "canon" and main saves, then either use a [Gallery Unlocker], or Alt Saves, to see all the content.

*Shut Up and Dance is a similar example; for now, you get almost twice as many scenes in the corrupt path with Megan, and I imagine by the end it will still be skewed in that way, but hopefully it's worth the delayed gratification, for those Romance fans. I'm rootin' for ya.

 

[MrDavies97]

didnt this game have a WT mod ?

 

[Garrettino]

didnt this game have a WT mod ?

It did, but the creator said it was "too much" essentially.
Released the update as just a Cheats+Music Mod now.
Verbatim:
"Since the old game parts are again heavily reworked/changed I had to remove the
walkthrough part from my Mod since I would have to restart that from scratch again."

Perhaps he's working on it, and will add it back in later, I do not know.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Well this is the fallacy from the get-go, from many NTR-hater/fearers here, delusional types, or purely just romantic (I get it tho). If you're in a NETORI themed game (let's be real, that's what this game is) you're stealing her, from HIM, not the other way around. Essentially you're playing the "Bad Guy" by monogamous traditional standards...

{Reality Check}: They've had sex before, Chloe is proof of that, and they're still married, even if he neglects her. Sure you probably don't want to show that, for this fan-base, which he mostly didn't... but that's why he reserved it for the Corrupt path, fans, who are more inclined to NTR, niche kinks, other fetishes and won't be as easily offended, nor turned off.
Both cases, THEY HAD SEX, last night, that's been established in unspoken reaction by Nicole and follow up dialogue by John. This isn't up for debate . But people saying it was NEVER SHOWN is the only part I'm disproving. Again, as I've explained, it's MC's personal interpretation of how it went down, he wasn't there obviously... but it's still a visual aide, that I'm sure most of you on "That Half" will not be happy to see. So it was also serving as a warning/disclaimer, to avoid that path if you were curious.

I do agree, it was kinda unfair to NOT have any lewds for the Romance guys... but that's the breaks, for most of these games honestly. The payoff typically is, less lewd scenes early on, but the payoff is at the end. Maybe with marriage, and honeymoon sex scenes, or more intimate scenes, but overall, of the 800+ games on this site I have tried, Corruption is King if you're talking a [SCENE REPLAY] tally. So my suggestion is keep a LOVE path for yourself, as "canon" and main saves, then either use a [Gallery Unlocker], or Alt Saves, to see all the content.

*Shut Up and Dance is a similar example; for now, you get almost twice as many scenes in the corrupt path with Megan, and I imagine by the end it will still be skewed in that way, but hopefully it's worth the delayed gratification, for those Romance fans. I'm rootin' for ya.

I understand you and everything you wrote. just taking into account the fact that John is connected with Sylvia, then he fucked another whore (who knows, maybe there are others), then Nicole suspected her husband of cheating a little... and now she just forgot everything and slept with him husband as if it were all his attention that he didn’t give her before and she forgot ... I don’t argue, he’s her husband and has the right to fuck his wife, but this is a difficult situation

 

[TheOneWhoKnocksUp]

He's back ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Takao Kinomiya]

Marilyn I think I'm the only one who loves you why couldn't we fuck you for 12 episodes

 

[Garrettino]

I understand you and everything you wrote. just taking into account the fact that John is connected with Sylvia, then he fucked another whore (who knows, maybe there are others), then Nicole suspected her husband of cheating a little... and now she just forgot everything and slept with him husband as if it were all his attention that he didn’t give her before and she forgot ... I don’t argue, he’s her husband and has the right to fuck his wife, but this is a difficult situation

Yea, but who says it was even consensual? Obviously, her heart wasn't in it, and not to get too controversial, but in some countries, that's a "marital duty" too, right. Then you get the more modern, and currently heated topic of "Can you even rape your wife?" which is only now days (in America) legally coming to light and being disputed...

My point is, this incident shouldn't lessen your feelings towards Mrs. Heavens, nor her feelings towards the loving (path) MC, nor should you consider it the start of plot holes to come or anything... I personally think it adds a thought provoking layer of complexity, that many daydreaming fans of this Netori fantasy, never consider... what if she keeps fucking the husband?

Tough pill to swallow for some, but I think he hasn't crossed the line yet, and again, he kept it on the Corruption route...
Did he break his promise? I don't think so, because he never said he would never show these kinda scenes, I'm honestly surprised he didn't show more already: look at most married leading ladies like Linda from MILFY CITY; sure Momcest is far different than what's done here, but you still SEE her and Bob in the act. Many other examples of this as precedent, but you get the idea. This is one of the devs that really gets his fanbase, I feel like, and has cultivated a loyal one. I'd keep the faith, and not worry too much about Netorare, even in the corrupt path, I doubt he'd do that to any of us lol

But NETORI is already one of the 3 pillars of NTR, so just keep that in mind, the window of opportunity is right there, and it wouldn't even break the paradigm.

 

[SlapE]

which is only now days (in America) legally coming to light and being disputed...

Well... I think it's more than just being disputed here in the United States. IIRC martial rape is illegal in all 50 states at this point. (probably to varying degrees, but still illegal)

I'm surprised martial rape was legal in a lot of states for as long as it was, rape is rape. Nowhere in marriage vows do people say, "You're free to use my body as you please, with or without my consent".

 

[Garrettino]

Well... I think it's more than just being disputed here in the United States. IIRC martial rape is illegal in all 50 states at this point. (probably to varying degrees, but still illegal)

I'm surprised martial rape was legal in a lot of states for as long as it was, rape is rape. Nowhere in marriage vows do people say, "You're free to use my body as you please, with or without my consent".

Right, that's not what I meant, yes you're right.
I meant where they're drawing that line, and how they distinguish rape, is what's being discussed. It's very hard to convict in marriage situations, especially cuz she "still loves him" and most get withdrawn/forgiven. But I mean in recent years, more are starting to realize "No does mean No" and even as the wife, you can actually say no.
It's wild right? who knew.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Did he break his promise? I don't think so, because he never said he would never show these kinda scenes

Did he not? Because the screenshot I keep seeing around more than implies Nicole will never have sex with anyone other than the MC during the game. If the sex didn't happen and its just dragging the cliffhanger from last episode, again I've seen a post of the dev saying he is sorry for leaving the game on that cliffhanger and then having to go on hiatus and then next update drops and he just prolongs the agony of finding out? It feels like going on his word no matter which scenarios is true, he wrote himself into corner and people will, imo deservedly, be pissed.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Did he not? Because the screenshot I keep seeing around more than implies Nicole will never have sex with anyone other than the MC during the game. If the sex didn't happen and its just dragging the cliffhanger from last episode, again I've seen a post of the dev saying he is sorry for leaving the game on that cliffhanger and then having to go on hiatus and then next update drops and he just prolongs the agony of finding out? It feels like going on his word no matter which scenarios is true, he wrote himself into corner and people will, imo deservedly, be pissed.

Finally, besides me, someone else remembers what Dev said earlier! That's what I've been thinking about for 2 days now, since the developer said something earlier that he left an end 11 episode to a difficult situation, then shouldn't he have fixed it somehow? We hope that something will turn out well))))

 

[P0iSON]

Does the game have sound? I don't have any sound at all.

 

[Garrettino]

Did he not? Because the screenshot I keep seeing around more than implies Nicole will never have sex with anyone other than the MC during the game. If the sex didn't happen and its just dragging the cliffhanger from last episode, again I've seen a post of the dev saying he is sorry for leaving the game on that cliffhanger and then having to go on hiatus and then next update drops and he just prolongs the agony of finding out? It feels like going on his word no matter which scenarios is true, he wrote himself into corner and people will, imo deservedly, be pissed.

I may have missed that then. I'm more than fine being wrong. *shrug*

But I just assumed he meant, never in an NTR capacity. Showing marital sex, that you assumed has happened many times, feels par for the course. So you guys are literally demanding that the DEV write that Nicole and John cease having sex entirely from the inception of game, (or at least the start of the affair?) and just accept that to be realistic? IDK man... I also think he used it as fuel/device for the Hate-Sex angle, that was kinda different, and welcomed. But my "canon" save is the normal one.

For me, I'm actually only a mild fan of Netori, and dislike both Netorare and Netorase, for reference. And showing that John scene, hasn't triggered me yet. But I'm also not gonna run from NTR, if it's there but I understand both sides of the divide. I'll never truly understand Netorare, myself, and Netorase is essentially just swinging, but yea. I'm more on your side bros , I get it... I came to this game for the lewds, but stayed for the 1 on 1 quasi-romance. I rarely gravitate towards singular love interests, Harems are just more fun, but OrbOrigin wrote a pretty good one here!
...The corruption side, just yields more fap material lol

Hopefully, there's another twist here, and Nicole did NOT have sex with John at all, and it was purely in the MC's head... then many of you can simply rest easy. I'm just playing devil's advocate for this great dev. I truly hope that it doesn't have to come to this binary ultimatum of "If she fucked her husband on screen, I'm gone!" and you support his vision regardless. It'll never be 100% what you design in your own private fantasy, that's why so many throw their hat in the ring, and make one of these themselves...
But I still think he hasn't strayed too far from his original intent, and "promise" to you all/us... but I'm just one voice here.

 

[dkatryl]

Marilyn I think I'm the only one who loves you why couldn't we fuck you for 12 episodes

Not the only one.

As I've said before, I want Marilyn to jump on the MC's dick while she relives his latest session with Nicole, so she can get twice the pleasure.

Because I'm a giver!

 

[ripportier]

Does the game have sound? I don't have any sound at all.

there is a mod for that

 

[lerolerdo]

Very good game. I'm still here after a year and a half, waiting for more!

 

[Insomnia_z]

At this point I just prey to orb that at the end of the game John ends up being killed, in a very painful way.... by MC's hands

 

[MAGO-DAG]

I may have missed that then. I'm more than fine being wrong. *shrug*

But I just assumed he meant, never in an NTR capacity. Showing marital sex, that you assumed has happened many times, feels par for the course. So you guys are literally demanding that the DEV write that Nicole and John cease having sex entirely from the inception of game, (or at least the start of the affair?) and just accept that to be realistic? IDK man... I also think he used it as fuel/device for the Hate-Sex angle, that was kinda different, and welcomed. But my "canon" save is the normal one.

For me, I'm actually only a mild fan of Netori, and dislike both Netorare and Netorase, for reference. And showing that John scene, hasn't triggered me yet. But I'm also not gonna run from NTR, if it's there but I understand both sides of the divide. I'll never truly understand Netorare, myself, and Netorase is essentially just swinging, but yea. I'm more on your side bros , I get it... I came to this game for the lewds, but stayed for the 1 on 1 quasi-romance. I rarely gravitate towards singular love interests, Harems are just more fun, but OrbOrigin wrote a pretty good one here!
...The corruption side, just yields more fap material lol

Hopefully, there's another twist here, and Nicole did NOT have sex with John at all, and it was purely in the MC's head... then many of you can simply rest easy. I'm just playing devil's advocate for this great dev. I truly hope that it doesn't have to come to this binary ultimatum of "If she fucked her husband on screen, I'm gone!" and you support his vision regardless. It'll never be 100% what you design in your own private fantasy, that's why so many throw their hat in the ring, and make one of these themselves...
But I still think he hasn't strayed too far from his original intent, and "promise" to you all/us... but I'm just one voice here.

I remember when I first started this game 2 years ago, and there was a lot of scene where Nicole was trying to have sex with her husband and I kind of reacted to it completely CALM! no problems and tension, because the wife wanted more sexual attention from her husband and I understood her at that moment and understand now too, I even remember John reproached her for being a housewife and not a sex girl (which really hurt her) as soon as Mc appeared she has a chance to reveal herself (even if it’s cheating) next to him she feels something like cozy and at the same time she likes the attention that she did not receive from her husband... it’s another thing to fuck with her husband in a calm atmosphere where there is mutual respect attraction, but on the other hand, having sex with a husband who treated her disrespectfully? she has a feeling for Mc and somehow she agree to sleep with her husband... I even remember how her husband behaved with her when Mc, Sylvia and Nicole and her husband went to dinner. remember this moment? then Mc almost went wild with anger... Everyone has their own opinion, I can’t blame anyone or argue... in theory, I’m pleased that the developer finally returned to work, then we’ll see how the story turns out.

 

[albul]

I may have missed that then. I'm more than fine being wrong. *shrug*

But I just assumed he meant, never in an NTR capacity. Showing marital sex, that you assumed has happened many times, feels par for the course. So you guys are literally demanding that the DEV write that Nicole and John cease having sex entirely from the inception of game, (or at least the start of the affair?) and just accept that to be realistic? IDK man... I also think he used it as fuel/device for the Hate-Sex angle, that was kinda different, and welcomed. But my "canon" save is the normal one.

For me, I'm actually only a mild fan of Netori, and dislike both Netorare and Netorase, for reference. And showing that John scene, hasn't triggered me yet. But I'm also not gonna run from NTR, if it's there but I understand both sides of the divide. I'll never truly understand Netorare, myself, and Netorase is essentially just swinging, but yea. I'm more on your side bros , I get it... I came to this game for the lewds, but stayed for the 1 on 1 quasi-romance. I rarely gravitate towards singular love interests, Harems are just more fun, but OrbOrigin wrote a pretty good one here!
...The corruption side, just yields more fap material lol

Hopefully, there's another twist here, and Nicole did NOT have sex with John at all, and it was purely in the MC's head... then many of you can simply rest easy. I'm just playing devil's advocate for this great dev. I truly hope that it doesn't have to come to this binary ultimatum of "If she fucked her husband on screen, I'm gone!" and you support his vision regardless. It'll never be 100% what you design in your own private fantasy, that's why so many throw their hat in the ring, and make one of these themselves...
But I still think he hasn't strayed too far from his original intent, and "promise" to you all/us... but I'm just one voice here.

My dude, you can rationalize it however you like, it doesn't change what he promised:


It doesn't get any clearer than that.

 

[REGUser]

Helpful Tips

So I see a lot of people complaining about their saves not working. AFAIK this used to be an issue with the NORMAL version vs the PLUS version but Orb has previously stated he had changed the code so that these 2 versions don't conflict with save files and should no longer be an issue.

However this doesn't seem to be the case lol, so best thing to do is use the Chapter Select and start from Chapter 12.

"But what about all my STATS?!..."

Well I've take the pleasure of finding out what you need to do. Part 12 is heavily focused on Nicole's Corruption route, Love routers don't see much action in this update, but oh boy if you are a Corruption router...you have a saucey ending!

The best way to see this ending (which I ended up doing) is to download UnRen (UnRen-Powershell-forall) from here and then run it to unlock the Developer Console:



Once you've done that you can close UnRen and open up the game. Press Shift + O to open up the Developer Console.

We need to change Nicole's Corruption Points to 72 (or above) to trigger the sex scene, this is impossible to achieve with the Chapter Select and majority of these Corruption Points are earned in previous chapters that for some reason are not in the quick fire questions so you will always be short of these points coming into this new Chapter and there's no way to earn enough in Part 12 to trigger it.

I've combed the script and found the variable to increase Nicole's "lust":

>> With the console open type: NicoleCorruptPoints = 72

This variable will increase her Corruption Points high enough to trigger the event.

That's it, hope you enjoy it. I am glad to see OrbOrigin is back and is delivering that high quality we expect of him.

The dialogue is very saucey and I am excited to see what's installed in the next episode!