RPGM Abandoned A New Life in Submission [v0.03b] [Zenkuro]

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Please vote for the option the best describes your opinion.

  • I think the focus should remain on "A new life in submission" until it's finished.

    Votes: 676 58.1%
  • I think the focus should remain on "Black Rose Hotel" until it's finished.

    Votes: 195 16.8%
  • I don't mind development cycles that alternate between the two as long as there's more content.

    Votes: 199 17.1%
  • I don't mind either of the two games, as long as you focus on one at a time.

    Votes: 93 8.0%

  • Total voters
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olorex11

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Dude made a promise and even had the guts to put a fucking timer, he is getting shit for soft lying, his art is still top IMO and the writing is good/great but in my book doing a Koda = no support from me.
 

lnppo

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TL;DR: Here we have the usual "update when" because Zen runs multiple projects and RPG Maker totally isn't accessible to everyone so they can just mod the game to their liking in the meantime - if Zen isn't already pausing payments, just stop supporting, nobody forces you to support every month, Patreon isn't Fantia (unless this changed, then I apologize). Cue random wall of text from some equally random Internet old bitch not even interested in content involving males, only the art and effort that was put into the game.

Zen's a great artist and a decent developer who actually listens to feedback; they've been trying to please the community as much as possible by including multiple fetishes that obviously not everyone likes. As Zen stated themselves on another thread, the femdom community is already divisive enough as it is without the need for further issues over fetishes (this can also be mitigated with toggles, but that's the developer's choice since it can also easily be implemented by the user themselves - RPG Maker MV/MZ literally is open-source even if the content is obfuscated, unless the project core data - JavaScript and JSON files - is also passed through obfuscation to defend against modifications).

Yes, Zen has been doing commissions, doing art and has multiple projects up at the same time instead of sticking to one. It's usually a very bad choice and quite taxing, but that's still their decision. I can literally replay their games even though I am not even into this at all and still enjoy the art, scenes and dialogue instead of having to look at a plethora of gamebreaking bugs, rushed content and terrible grammar that most won't even notice - the usual RPG Maker stuff when it's pushed to production, many times without any kind of playtesting or looking at scripts 'borrowed' from RPG Maker Forums (nor crediting them, which takes a few seconds in a simple text file).Many already do and/or pause when they can't keep up so they don't feel like their audience is being 'milked' for supporting in the void, even though the principle of a tipjar is that you're supporting the creator for making stuff, not the content you're being promised as some kind of reward. People can thank paywalls for turning crowdfunding into heavy consumerism and corrupting creator passion into greed, laziness, depression or a mix of everything. Creators aren't obligated to deliver any content whatsoever and the only ToS section about this on some paywalls is they are required to be active at least once every 6 months lest their platform be closed. That's still pretty lax - shameless creators can still change tiers, delete own posts or restrict it all to one post every 6 months without any consequence. Not exactly what happened here, just the usual "game on hiatus, mod it, find another one or replay existing content if you have time/motivation" from the looks of it.

Don't want Patreonization to continue being a thing? Stop supporting financially and provide moral support instead. Can't speak for Zen but I'm almost sure the average content creator cares a lot more about people who think of the human side of the human being than people who pay for the sake of getting a reward or even just for the sake of paying, but without any thought for what might be going on (or even the work they are supposed to be encouraging to motivate the creator, including other works that aren't made available to them).

As for the game, last time I checked, it had enough replayable content to keep people busy for dozens of hours. If the players also want to help with playtesting or just enjoy exploring - talked to every NPC? Tried everything possible? Ran into every wall and corner to check for bugs or map changes that don't work as intended?

It's the same for every amateur game that isn't a finished product. If that's the case, I can see why Zen would rather stick to doing commissions or just draw art they like and share it on their preferred platform because this cycle is more than just tiresome, it's soul-rending; at least Zen doesn't have to deal with actual game critics - those can and will absolutely run you and your game into the ground at the slightest flaw especially if it was made with such a simple game engine compared to many others including company-made ones that are a nightmare to work on; the professional game industry is absolutely ruthless and game critics only consider the end product. Won't even mention F95 is a piracy forum; putting aside the "pirates never pay" stereotype along with "creators never pirate", many people have no intent of supporting a game financially whether they can, but moral support counts. Again, it counts a lot more than money.

Apologies for wasting everyone's time with a wall of text (removed half of it before posting it). It would be funny if that got me permabanned from the thread for defending Zenkuro, though; have yet to experience this one. (If I had to guess, the most plausible reason would be "paywall bashing is offtopic", which is fair enough, lol.)

PS: Zen, if you read this, stay strong. Take your time, do stuff you like so you don't end up going down the path of many other content creators losing all hope and passion and being corrupted into pushing industrial slop or treating their supportive audience like disposable wallets. It's just a game, there are tons of others around for people to play if they are dissatisfied with the way it is being made. And thanks for taking the effort to include as many fetishes and options as you can in your works, even if it's just subtle. Your fetish poll for ANLIS was a fun one, wish more creators did this and included so many options to choose from and potentially see; it's also an inspiration for modders who would appreciate the content but didn't think of it at the time. (Won't say which ones I went for because that would be bias and incite further bias, especially as someone who isn't even supposed to be part of your target audience.)
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You claim to be a lesbian, yet you're bouncing on Zenkuro's dick. :unsure:
Sexuality is a spectrum, I suppose. :)
 

CNR25

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You claim to be a lesbian, yet you're bouncing on Zenkuro's dick. :unsure:
Sexuality is a spectrum, I suppose. :)
You got me laughing

Aside from that I think i remember this user being banned from Katalist thread... Or maybe i'm confusing them with someone

EDIT : Been checking that. Almost every posts of this user have been deleted from the Katalist thread. Maybe on other threads as well, weird
 
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smellyz44

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Many developers make the mistake of starting several games at the same time, and they quickly regret it. They realize too late that the story line is taking too long to progress, and complain that they can't release regular content for their main game. If ANLIS is going to remain the main game, it's better to finish Black Rose Hotel first and then continue with ANLIS in its entirety. In any case, this applies to those who release regular content, so in our case, any content release would already be a huge improvement.
 
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I added a poll to the thread, I would like to include as many people in it as possible, please take a moment to vote if you can.
Personally, I love the whole concept of a school full of super power dominant females. As much as I would like to se that progress, before I vote, I have questions for you. What would be more productive for you. If black rose hotel is still intended to be a smaller project. Is it something that you use that to keep us preoccupied until you can push Anlis further. Is it more fun for you to bounce between projects? Is it easier to focus on one thing at a time? Or would you like to have 2 projects running where when you get burnt out on one you can move to the next. I would like you to pick something that would give you your best life. Because for me, content is content. And whether it’s brh or anlis, you have a good base of characters where it doesn’t matter which mc is getting violated. I just want you to stay inspired and happy and not drain yourself.

The thing with anlis, it seems that there are intentions that it will be a very in depth game. Not even just the side quests and sexual content/scenes, but also the equipment and food items. There are a lot more elements, buffs, moves to include as well. If it’s easier to focus on one thing at a time I feel like brh is the quickest to finish and then you can hit all the crevices that anlis requires.
 

Gicoo

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I added a poll to the thread, I would like to include as many people in it as possible, please take a moment to vote if you can.
Personally I care for ANLIS, but if you are more interested in BRH, then do that.

Generally, I'd reduce the number of girls in ANLIS to like 6, so that the game is much more feasible. It's absurd to retain the original number, when you are still stuck on the first girl. In hindsight, I would rewrite library and bully girl to make them regular candidates, but that likely takes too much time rewriting.

The game just went to overambitious and should've been much smaller (no sidequests, no mini-games, no large school) and just focus on 5-8 girls with their progressing events and challenges. Then you may actually finish it over some years instead of being stuck at 5% and adding a few 0,1% progress every few months (if at all). Way too much focus on side-content as well, there are so many side girls that would be better suited to be the main challengers in the main story.
 
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Samistarkill

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I added a poll to the thread, I would like to include as many people in it as possible, please take a moment to vote if you can.
Whatever happens, I hope you Consider somewhat of a happy ending for Adrian and Leah relationship. I always assumed there has to be some affection route planned for them(not necessarily super vanilla , just to see Leah cares about him regardless of dynamic)
 
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Jardani1

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I added a poll to the thread, I would like to include as many people in it as possible, please take a moment to vote if you can.
Please focus on completing ANLIS and reduce some girls to ease your development workload. When ANLIS is finished, it will be the greatest femdom RPG ever. You can release it on Steam and some other platforms, and then you’ll have the funds to hire help or even develop games full-time.
 

Zenkuro

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Just to clarify, the storylines for the main girls will mostly be self contained. So when I say “finish the project,” I don’t necessarily mean wrapping up all 12 of them. It could just mean fully fleshing out Leah’s story and giving it a proper conclusion with multiple endings.

A common criticism I see is that the game still feels like it's in its infancy stages, but the truth is, it has around 12 hours of content already, and if I add another 15–20 hours, that should be enough to complete Leah’s arc. And the overall game length would add up to what I would consider a respectable 25-30 hours long experience.

The only things left hanging would be the side characters, but their stories can be expanded later on with the introduction of new girls in future updates.
 
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I do not know how valuable our opinions are here. In the end only Zenkuro himself knows what way of doing things is more comfortable for him and works best. Whether he focuses on 1 game more or alternates between the 2 should matter little if he himself has a different preference from ours that works better for him.
 
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