VN Ren'Py A Perfect Marriage [v0.7.3] [Mr Palmer]

[Couto25]

Then you can always play the unfaithful path the second time you play the game, I do that in every game

I play all paths..I just feel sexual approach towards ana and intimacy is always missing ...I was hoping for better tease in the game where ana allow touches to marvin or not she can decide, whether she allow to go further or not ...i find those options missing in the game in first 2 parts...but anyways, it was just the story building path so I can understand like he want few characters to be forced to ana, its fine..just hoping for good scene on part 3 onwards of ANA and not david, chris, marvin, jake dik pick or their masturbation lol or kendra and some side character BJ scenes.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

While you are waiting.
Go play The Sims 4 with WickedWhims.
Make all the characters you want.
Make up all the stories you want.
It’s all animated, controllable, and 3D.
Make Anna fuck the whole town but her husband, if that’s what you wanted.
You are welcome.

 

[I-No]

We express our opinion based on the words of the dev!

Yeah... Right...

And I was a former supporter of this game but since he didn’t listen to me or my votes in his polls where old man character always wins over anyone else, I said screw this [...]

Well, that actually is a valid point and I perfectly understand your concern. But asking for an opinion does not automatically mean you have to adapt it. It's Mr_Palmer's game and in the end he makes the creative descisions.

But it’s unlikely that Mr. Palmer will answer us.

But he does, doesn't he?

However, I’m grateful we’re finally at the point in the story arc where things are taking a dark turn.

We all are.
I rest my case.

 

[podkop09]

That's where a lot of people want the game to be more realistic. But that can take the story down a dangerous path!
If Anna starts going to the gym, she won't be able to resist Marcel. And when they have sex, boom. She'll forget about her family, she'll forget about Marvin, Chris, she won't be interested in anything. We'll just watch endless scenes with Marcel and Anna.
Because everyone knows.
Once you go black, you never go back!

 

[Ragnar]

Sorry anon, Anna doesn't watch blacked porn. She's into older men for some reason

 

[Sadowdark]

I play all paths..I just feel sexual approach towards ana and intimacy is always missing ...I was hoping for better tease in the game where ana allow touches to marvin or not she can decide, whether she allow to go further or not ...i find those options missing in the game in first 2 parts...but anyways, it was just the story building path so I can understand like he want few characters to be forced to ana, its fine..just hoping for good scene on part 3 onwards of ANA and not david, chris, marvin, jake dik pick or their masturbation lol or kendra and some side character BJ scenes.

Don't forget that we are kinetic Ch2 so we have few choices

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

That's where a lot of people want the game to be more realistic. But that can take the story down a dangerous path!
If Anna starts going to the gym, she won't be able to resist Marcel. And when they have sex, boom. She'll forget about her family, she'll forget about Marvin, Chris, she won't be interested in anything. We'll just watch endless scenes with Marcel and Anna.
Because everyone knows.
Once you go black, you never go back!

And David will never find out, except if Marcel gets her pregnant

 

[DarthSpitz717]

Someone already hit the nail on the head a while back on this thread when they said the reader of this story is meant to be in the shoes of an antagonist (I.e. Chris) where there is a built up desire to see Anna nude and see her succumb to her darker urges. The story has an arc on purpose.

I once compared it to a Hallmark movie that turns dark. In order to capture the Hallmark essence, there has to be a prolonged period of PG content in order for viewer to have a strong desire to say, “damn, I wish this sexy bitch would get naked and fuck.” Watching a Hallmark movie is the ultimate blue ball since you know that will never happen. The good news is, in APM, it can happen.

This is my style… I want to have an arc where there’s some mounting desire because I believe that makes the payoff sweeter. And hopefully the story is fulfilling in itself.

It’s totally reasonable for people to hate this approach and not want to support it. That’s why I’ve given plenty of warning it’s not for everyone.

Admittedly it’s taken longer to get to this point than I ever thought (I think the pandemic gave me a false sense of time available).

However, I’m grateful we’re finally at the point in the story arc where things are taking a dark turn.

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Someone already hit the nail on the head a while back on this thread when they said the reader of this story is meant to be in the shoes of an antagonist (I.e. Chris) where there is a built up desire to see Anna nude and see her succumb to her darker urges. The story has an arc on purpose. Did I miss reading some of the content? It appears at time we are getting Anna's inner prospective of the events happening to her to justify her responses. Or are we looking at an 80/20 antagonist/protagonist? Or would some inner thoughts from Anna help explain her motivations walking down those dark paths?

I once compared it to a Hallmark movie that turns dark. In order to capture the Hallmark essence, there has to be a prolonged period of PG content in order for viewer to have a strong desire to say, “damn, I wish this sexy bitch would get naked and fuck.” Watching a Hallmark movie is the ultimate blue ball since you know that will never happen. The good news is, in APM, it can happen. Some paths are shorter ones then others. However that is up to you just what "dark" there is and who does what. Yes, again game tags. I think holding your cards close to your chest about those tags is an excellent ploy.

This is my style… I want to have an arc where there’s some mounting desire because I believe that makes the payoff sweeter. And hopefully the story is fulfilling in itself. All good story tellers have their style. Though some adaptability at times might yield a good return. It's a fine balance between what kind of hints as the story progress draws more attention to the game and those hints that ruin the "payoff."

It’s totally reasonable for people to hate this approach and not want to support it. That’s why I’ve given plenty of warning it’s not for everyone.

Admittedly it’s taken longer to get to this point than I ever thought (I think the pandemic gave me a false sense of time available). In an ideal world, I would have though any content creator would be better to release their project after full third is done to capture a following. However, I my 'solution' to introducing content, that is a lot of work, and gauge the response from responsive audiences in important. My guess time management and how to produce content that is effective at squaring all the circles but isn't overwhelmed is the real task that makes it seem overwhelming.

However, I’m grateful we’re finally at the point in the story arc where things are taking a dark turn. I agree... with certain paths. Some need more work to get there to get the biggest payoff.

Wish at times I can throw out 'technical' details to assist. The Anna/Grant reconciliation is going to be hard to get on track. Making Marvin more plausible avenue comes in a close second. At least with the rest it's pretty straight forward, though if Marcel really is an option, am looking forward to how you are going to reintroduce him and putting him and Anna on the same path.

 

[Sadowdark]

Sorry anon, Anna doesn't watch blacked porn. She's into older men for some reason



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I just need to focus

 

[Couto25]

Don't forget that we are kinetic Ch2 so we have few choices

What kinetic Ch2?? I dont understand. See if you are a supporter of tease it's fine..I am not that much fan of tease

 

[Sadowdark]

What kinetic Ch2?? I dont understand. See if you are a supporter of tease it's fine..I am not that much fan of tease

My point is that we are still at the end of Ch2 where the choices are kinetic and there are few of them. Only in Ch3 will there be sex and no more kinetic choices

 

[Couto25]

My point is that we are still at the end of Ch2 where the choices are kinetic and there are few of them. Only in Ch3 will there be sex and no more kinetic choices

i thought we are done with ch2 and next update is ch3...all kinetics done with already...see dr palmer last post where he mentioned that now he's done with all story and finally ch3 will start...rest kinetics can go on for 6 years like awam too lol...where even now few fans demand like its too soon for sophia to have sex...keep the tease up..so thats where i differ...like fine keep both options for fans those who like only tease and those who like sex part...with an option...so that those who want to play tease part can go for only where ana is forced to sex where she will be submissive like with her boss hank or her uncle...and for those who are playing naughty ana path they can play sex part.

 

[Couto25]

The thing is this story can fulfil both path..
1. Those who wanna play tease path..play faithful ana ..wait for the situation where she will get submisive from hank / neighbour / uncle or anyone. They can enjoy slow seduction and everything.
2. Those who wanna play naughty ana path and want ana to initiate tease and cheat.

The only thing I dont understand is people who like 1st path always want developer not to do any development on 2nd path and not make character go on 2nd path calling them names and all...there is no need for that. If an update has 400 renders ..make 200 renders for both path.....it's like people who dont enjoy sex, don't let others enjoy sex too lol. like i dont want ana to have sex so i will not let others to play content of naughty ana too lol

 

[Sadowdark]

i thought we are done with ch2 and next update is ch3...all kinetics done with already...see dr palmer last post where he mentioned that now he's done with all story and finally ch3 will start...rest kinetics can go on for 6 years like awam too lol...where even now few fans demand like its too soon for sophia to have sex...keep the tease up..so thats where i differ...like fine keep both options for fans those who like only tease and those who like sex part...with an option...so that those who want to play tease part can go for only where ana is forced to sex where she will be submissive like with her boss hank or her uncle...and for those who are playing naughty ana path they can play sex part.

The next new update will be Ch3

The creator said that he won't force you to do anything if you choose well, Anna won't have sex with anyone if you don't like certain characters. But choose well.

These are his original words

,,I'll certainly give you an obvious choice when that time comes. If you never want her to give into a character, fine, I won't force that, just make the right decisions when the time comes. In fact, if you do reject someone until the end, that may end up resulting in an ending for tha,,




Here is my question that I asked that we are at the end of Ch2 and the choices are kinetic and the creator answered yes.

But we are still at the end of Ch2, so these are still kinetic choices. You will see the consequences of these choices in Ch3.
,, Correct. So, if you reject Chris, Anna won’t send him a picture in this update. If you reject Marvin, she won’t let him grope her for more than a few seconds. Your choices are already making a difference. Granted, they may not be what you want her to ultimately do, but you can only influence her.,,

 

[Sadowdark]

The thing is this story can fulfil both path..
1. Those who wanna play tease path..play faithful ana ..wait for the situation where she will get submisive from hank / neighbour / uncle or anyone. They can enjoy slow seduction and everything.
2. Those who wanna play naughty ana path and want ana to initiate tease and cheat.

The only thing I dont understand is people who like 1st path always want developer not to do any development on 2nd path and not make character go on 2nd path calling them names and all...there is no need for that. If an update has 400 renders ..make 200 renders for both path.....it's like people who dont enjoy sex, don't let others enjoy sex too lol. like i dont want ana to have sex so i will not let others to play content of naughty ana too lol

1. faithful path (Loyalty) Anna can be naughty and if the player wants, can lead Anna to cheat or not
2. Cheat Path (Dominace)
3. The Way of (Submission) Anna may cheat, but she is not convinced


I will tell you what I think, why I like the first path, because it is more interesting for now than the others, which are painfully predictable and there is nothing original that I haven't seen in other games. And every failure of sexy predecessors is like honey to my heart. But the creator said that he wanted to develop all the paths at once so as not to waste time on creating each one separately. And work if possible on the same scenes but with different choices and dialogues. So as not to extend the update and the game unnecessarily.

 

[Couto25]

The next new update will be Ch3

The creator said that he won't force you to do anything if you choose well, Anna won't have sex with anyone if you don't like certain characters. But choose well.

These are his original words

,,I'll certainly give you an obvious choice when that time comes. If you never want her to give into a character, fine, I won't force that, just make the right decisions when the time comes. In fact, if you do reject someone until the end, that may end up resulting in an ending for tha,,




Here is my question that I asked that we are at the end of Ch2 and the choices are kinetic and the creator answered yes.

But we are still at the end of Ch2, so these are still kinetic choices. You will see the consequences of these choices in Ch3.
,, Correct. So, if you reject Chris, Anna won’t send him a picture in this update. If you reject Marvin, she won’t let him grope her for more than a few seconds. Your choices are already making a difference. Granted, they may not be what you want her to ultimately do, but you can only influence her.,,

Well you like it or not..marvin and especially Jake in ch1 bar scene is forced...even if you reject them all the time, that bar scene will come and jake will drop ana to home where ana like his smell and stuff....that's forced part. whether you like jake or not, he will be forced and ana is made to be attracted towards jake after he drop her at home. Same with her uncle...you cannot stop him from groping ana, thats forced..there is no option to stop him or her neighbour massage ...all those were forced. Hank ..idk yea you can show that you are not interested but i think Hank have power and authority and he knows about david's company....so he will take advantage of that for sure where ana has to be submissive or she will lose the job. Idk if developer wanna build the story that way or not in future...but if tease group will approach him requesting ohh no dont make Ana be the bitch of Hank, he will take Hank off too.

Finally the thing about kinetics...see kinetics means keep going on..its just how the story move forward....Just giving you an example..if I play ana as naughty where she give in to Chris..does it mean she will behave as a slut to whole office guys?? it depends on how developer wanna take the story with each character right...like next update you will see ana with Hank and jake storyline....so no matter even if ana fuck gym guy in chapter 2, his storyline will not effect Ana choices in the upcoming update. That's why I am saying...showing sex with any character will not ruin the story at all with upcoming updates....as there are so many story line with different characters.

My only issue is while playing as Ana naughty path and giving in ana to chris or marvin..the scene doesnt reach to sex part or even to the hot or intimate part. so idk if in ch3 there will be any intimate scene or not...i am just hoping for that there should be some really hot intimate scene from next update on naughty path of Ana and not like just a boobshow, dik touch etc. and that too on mobile lol (I dont even count it as a tease). The hot scene part should be playble like ana allowing touches and going further or something like that. But no option is there for that...something like Marvin's bar scene. Like if Ana allows marvin touches upto thighs and panty in bar in CH1...next scene with marvin should be more intimate...but all he did was he groped ass and thats it in Ch2 ..and that too there was no option where ana wants to take it further or not.

 

[Sadowdark]

Well you like it or not..marvin and especially Jake in ch1 bar scene is forced...even if you reject them all the time, that bar scene will come and jake will drop ana to home where ana like his smell and stuff....that's forced part. whether you like jake or not, he will be forced and ana is made to be attracted towards jake after he drop her at home. Same with her uncle...you cannot stop him from groping ana, thats forced..there is no option to stop him or her neighbour massage ...all those were forced. Hank ..idk yea you can show that you are not interested but i think Hank have power and authority and he knows about david's company....so he will take advantage of that for sure where ana has to be submissive or she will lose the job. Idk if developer wanna build the story that way or not in future...but if tease group will approach him requesting ohh no dont make Ana be the bitch of Hank, he will take Hank off too.

Finally the thing about kinetics...see kinetics means keep going on..its just how the story move forward....Just giving you an example..if I play ana as naughty where she give in to Chris..does it mean she will behave as a slut to whole office guys?? it depends on how developer wanna take the story with each character right...like next update you will see ana with Hank and jake storyline....so no matter even if ana fuck gym guy in chapter 2, his storyline will not effect Ana choices in the upcoming update. That's why I am saying...showing sex with any character will not ruin the story at all with upcoming updates....as there are so many story line with different characters.

thighs and panty in bar in CH1...next scene with marvin should be more intimate...but all he did was he groped ass and thats it in Ch2 ..and that too there was no option where ana wants to take it further or not.

Marvin wasn't there at all CH1 so you're wrong there. This scene was CH2 when he was groped Anne during a happy hour

If you were forced to do something, it would be hopeless and the choices you made in the previous chapters would be pointless. The creator would look like a liar and what he says and his posts, I don't think he needs it. He would piss off a lot of people in this thread.

, Correct. So, if you reject Chris, Anna won’t send him a picture in this update. If you reject Marvin, she won’t let him grope her for more than a few seconds. Your choices are already making a difference. Granted, they may not be what you want her to ultimately do, but you can only influence her.,,

Here is an example of a choice, there is nothing forced anywhere

Ch1 and Ch2 - kinetic choices

Ch1-Anna sends photos to Chris -
No choices for players

Ch2 - Anna reacts to sending photos -
The player has a choice

Ch2 - Chris asks again to send photos of Anne
The player has a choice


Ch2 - Marvin asks Anne to eat dinner with him
The player has a choice - - Change in relationship points from rejected to not sure

Ch2 - Anna is groped by Marvin at the pool
No choices for players, but if you go to dinner with Marvin
The player has a choice - Change in relationship points not sure to rejected

Ch3 - no more kinetic choices Will Anna go to the pool again with Marvin and Kendra?
The player has a choice

 

[Night Hacker]

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Sorry, i have a lot of beer.

LOL, sitting here, sippin' a beer as well.

 

[Couto25]

Marvin wasn't there at all CH1 so you're wrong there. This scene was CH2 when he was groped Anne during a happy hour

If you were forced to do something, it would be hopeless and the choices you made in the previous chapters would be pointless. The creator would look like a liar and what he says and his posts, I don't think he needs it. He would piss off a lot of people in this thread.

, Correct. So, if you reject Chris, Anna won’t send him a picture in this update. If you reject Marvin, she won’t let him grope her for more than a few seconds. Your choices are already making a difference. Granted, they may not be what you want her to ultimately do, but you can only influence her.,,

Here is an example of a choice, there is nothing forced anywhere



Ch1-Anna sends photos to Chris -
No choices for players

Ch2 - Anna reacts to sending photos -
The player has a choice

Ch2 - Chris asks again to send photos of Anne
The player has a choice


Ch2 - Marvin asks Anne to eat dinner with him
The player has a choice - - Change in relationship points from rejected to not sure

Ch2 - Anna is groped by Marvin at the pool
No choices for players, but if you go to dinner with Marvin
The player has a choice - Change in relationship points not sure to rejected

Ch3 - no more kinetic choices Will Anna go to the pool again with Marvin and Kendra?
The player has a choice

Yea ch2 scene with marvin sorry....the groping ass scene is on kinetics of Ch2 which should practically be ch3 but its fine..its just a transition of ch2 to ch3 ..I am talking about forced scene...be faithful and loyal...and try to stop Neighbour massage, uncle scene or Ana bar scene where she feel good for jake and it remind her of david...that attraction towards jake is forced...try not to meet jake on first hand itself..still jake will drop her from the car and Ana will feel attracted towards him. I am talking only about Jake,uncle and massage scene were forced...not talking about marvin or chris.
Do you have any option of Ana not to get seduced with neighbour massage?? or stopping ana from her uncle groping?

 

[Night Hacker]

Why is it that if someone expresses his subjective-constructive criticism, he is immediately offered:
a. create your own game
b. why do you ask questions and criticize, do you pay to the dev or play for free?
c. this is not a game for you, we don't do that here
d. you don’t understand it’s too early for sex, the plot is still being built up
e. get lost
...

Well, about the only one I have used out of this list is "a". Mainly for those who whine, moan and complain about how long it takes between episodes. I feel it is a valid reply. Try making your own short story, it will give you an idea of how long it takes. But even then it's not accurate as in more complex games with multiple paths, the difficulty is exponential, as you have to take into account ALL the possibilities.

I have been making my own game. Mainly to get the hang of doing it, I don't know if I will EVER release it, except for the odd person that has asked to see it. It's taught me a lot. Just coming up with a good story is difficult, then there's creating each scene and rendering them and hoping you didn't make a mistake.