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To me it's kind of stupid, it doesn't make sense that Anna quickly forgot what the fake doctor Rob Kobra did to her. He hasn't seen him in so long and immediately kisses him. Weird and far-fetched for me.- Thread starter Mr_Palmer
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To me it's kind of stupid, it doesn't make sense that Anna quickly forgot what the fake doctor Rob Kobra did to her. He hasn't seen him in so long and immediately kisses him. Weird and far-fetched for me.
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The shower scene where she crosses all the lines would have been incredible if the husband had returned home and seen and observed from afar... would he get excited? he would get angry ? Would you confront your wife?
Would you propose an open relationship?
Would you propose an open relationship?
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Fantastic update, but I don't expect any serious Chris action for a while now. There is a poker night and 3 different away trips mentioned in the update. Chris isn't invited to any of them, plus she needs to get that A/C sorted whether she likes it or not. I love the pacing. No kitchen tits, no shower pussy rub, perfect!
Maybe we get a quick Chris action if/when she replies to the mystery text.
Maybe we get a quick Chris action if/when she replies to the mystery text.
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I've got to agree with some other users, the update was short for 5 months of waiting. Either this dev isn't time efficient at all or he likes to idle in between. Given the fact, that someone else is doing the art for him (including time consuming rendering), it makes me wonder even more.
Still it's a turning point and I really hope for the sake of this vn, that updates from now on will include optional escalations between Anna and one of the many pursuers/predators. It was possible to reject Chris in this update, which is fine, while all others could finally get a glimpse of some action after years of absurd teasing.
Anna's all natural very much realistic tits were absolutely gorgeous in my opinion. Great shape, tear drop, lovely areolas and nipples at the anatomically correct spot (lower third of the breast, so many other artists do that wrong or just recreate the ugly silicone/fake tits look). The very erotic slight sagging is also hyper realistic, if you take the cup size into consideration, her age (close to 30) and breastfeeding her child. I really loved her tits in this update.
Mr. Palmer's hired artist did a wonderful job with Anna's breasts. It was about time to finally show these beauties!
Although her hips and waist could have been a little bit wider, after having given birth.
I wasn't happy about her very artificial looking pubes. This very thin landing strip is maintenance heavy, because it needs to be trimmed regularly and the surroundings need to be shaved, causing itchiness sooner or later. (Trimming is quickly done, but a combination of trimming and shaving takes time, especially if you want it to look symmetric)
I had hoped for a trimmed triangle (easy to maintain with a long hair trimmer) or a more natural small "mommy's bush" or something like that, after all she's a career woman, has got a baby to take care of and on top of it marriage problems. But still she looks like a single woman between her legs... So having such care (and therefore time) intensive pubes doesn't make much sense for me in her situation. In fact having a baby alone is such a challenging and time consuming task, that most moms just have to cut corners somewhere.
It's very much astonishing, not to say unbelievable, how Kendra manages to control all people around her and makes them do exactly what she wants. Not only all the gym employees do exactly what she wants, now also the receptionist woman in the office... even Jake, Marvin and Anna dance after her pipe to some degree. Surely there are highly manipulative individuals in this world, but still Kendra seems to top them all. Even getting away with threatening people at gun point... I don’t consider this to be realistic, sorry.
Additionally there were some other issues concerning realism:
If Anna is breastfeeding, her nipples would be most likely sore. So Chris squeezing her sore nipples under the shower would have been a rather unpleasant experience for Anna, instead of being turned on. That's once again porn logic at work.
It's also very much unrealistic that their baby sleeps peacefully the whole night, never wakes up and doesn’t rob David & Anna of their sleep as it would be totally normal.
Also Anna doesn't seem to breastfeed her baby in the morning before going to work... She'll be away at work for the next 8+ hours (including travel time). Which mom would not want to at least breastfeed her baby in the morning and hold it in her arms, before she leaves for work?
Or that Anna drinks alcohol despite breastfeeding (not in this update, although Chis tried to convince her to drink during dinner, but during the one with Kendra, Jake and Marvin, where the latter groped her under the table). Drinking and breastfeeding is a no-go. Even if the mom pumps milk before, she'll have to wait like 2 days or so, to be able to give the baby the breast again, because alcohol breaks down slowly. So a mother has got to think ahead a lot, if she wants to drink. But Anna doesn't and is totally thoughtless concerning alcohol: in her inner mologue she just thinks about her next work day as a reason for not drinking, instead of her baby.
In her unfaithful route, she even has got time to give Chris a handjob under the shower, instead of spending precious time with her baby, before she needs to go to work.
So for all the porn brains out there who think, the writing of APM was so realistic, it's not!
Anyway I hope the just teasing and hiding behind the excuse of realism bullshit belongs to the past from now on! There is plenty of porn logic at work already. Some people just don't want to realize it or don't want their illusions about this vn destroyed.
This doesn't mean that Anna should just jump on everybody's cock from now on. Progress, build-up and escalations between characters should still be believable ofc. But each update from now on should have at least one optional erotic scene between characters.
Still it's a turning point and I really hope for the sake of this vn, that updates from now on will include optional escalations between Anna and one of the many pursuers/predators. It was possible to reject Chris in this update, which is fine, while all others could finally get a glimpse of some action after years of absurd teasing.
Anna's all natural very much realistic tits were absolutely gorgeous in my opinion. Great shape, tear drop, lovely areolas and nipples at the anatomically correct spot (lower third of the breast, so many other artists do that wrong or just recreate the ugly silicone/fake tits look). The very erotic slight sagging is also hyper realistic, if you take the cup size into consideration, her age (close to 30) and breastfeeding her child. I really loved her tits in this update.
Mr. Palmer's hired artist did a wonderful job with Anna's breasts. It was about time to finally show these beauties!
Although her hips and waist could have been a little bit wider, after having given birth.
I wasn't happy about her very artificial looking pubes. This very thin landing strip is maintenance heavy, because it needs to be trimmed regularly and the surroundings need to be shaved, causing itchiness sooner or later. (Trimming is quickly done, but a combination of trimming and shaving takes time, especially if you want it to look symmetric)
I had hoped for a trimmed triangle (easy to maintain with a long hair trimmer) or a more natural small "mommy's bush" or something like that, after all she's a career woman, has got a baby to take care of and on top of it marriage problems. But still she looks like a single woman between her legs... So having such care (and therefore time) intensive pubes doesn't make much sense for me in her situation. In fact having a baby alone is such a challenging and time consuming task, that most moms just have to cut corners somewhere.
Indeed, the story does have plot holes and ISN'T that much realistic as some people claim. This most recent update once again involuntarily spotlighted it.
It's very much astonishing, not to say unbelievable, how Kendra manages to control all people around her and makes them do exactly what she wants. Not only all the gym employees do exactly what she wants, now also the receptionist woman in the office... even Jake, Marvin and Anna dance after her pipe to some degree. Surely there are highly manipulative individuals in this world, but still Kendra seems to top them all. Even getting away with threatening people at gun point... I don’t consider this to be realistic, sorry.
True, that bothered me too. Rob and Anna were way too friendly with each other all of a sudden.
Additionally there were some other issues concerning realism:
If Anna is breastfeeding, her nipples would be most likely sore. So Chris squeezing her sore nipples under the shower would have been a rather unpleasant experience for Anna, instead of being turned on. That's once again porn logic at work.
It's also very much unrealistic that their baby sleeps peacefully the whole night, never wakes up and doesn’t rob David & Anna of their sleep as it would be totally normal.
Also Anna doesn't seem to breastfeed her baby in the morning before going to work... She'll be away at work for the next 8+ hours (including travel time). Which mom would not want to at least breastfeed her baby in the morning and hold it in her arms, before she leaves for work?
Or that Anna drinks alcohol despite breastfeeding (not in this update, although Chis tried to convince her to drink during dinner, but during the one with Kendra, Jake and Marvin, where the latter groped her under the table). Drinking and breastfeeding is a no-go. Even if the mom pumps milk before, she'll have to wait like 2 days or so, to be able to give the baby the breast again, because alcohol breaks down slowly. So a mother has got to think ahead a lot, if she wants to drink. But Anna doesn't and is totally thoughtless concerning alcohol: in her inner mologue she just thinks about her next work day as a reason for not drinking, instead of her baby.
In her unfaithful route, she even has got time to give Chris a handjob under the shower, instead of spending precious time with her baby, before she needs to go to work.
So for all the porn brains out there who think, the writing of APM was so realistic, it's not!
Anyway I hope the just teasing and hiding behind the excuse of realism bullshit belongs to the past from now on! There is plenty of porn logic at work already. Some people just don't want to realize it or don't want their illusions about this vn destroyed.
This doesn't mean that Anna should just jump on everybody's cock from now on. Progress, build-up and escalations between characters should still be believable ofc. But each update from now on should have at least one optional erotic scene between characters.
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Just a quick question - how many games have you developed yourself, doing everything apart from actually producing the artwork, whilst holding down a full-time job, with the responsibility of a wife and a young family to cope with at the same time?
I guess you must have, otherwise how would you come up with your opinion as to Mr_Palmer's total lack of effort in his apparent ... "idleness"... in the production of this game.
Perhaps you could let us know the titles so we can all play and enjoy them.
Yeah, that kitchen scene is the real moment they crossed over into something else. As the dev says, it's a noticeable shift.
If there was any ambiguity, what happened the next morning makes it clear. The dev cannot logically bring them back to a faithful woman dragging Chris along to get info from him. It's far beyond that now, she fully believes David cheated, she wants revenge (or at least is angry enough to not care to be faithful) and she is expressing blatant sexual feelings for Chris.
It's beyond the point of pulling a L&P and having Anna suddenly think "actually, no more". Her dynamic and relationship with Chris is now something totally different and, IMO, really good.
I hope there's an ending where Anna ends up with Chris and they get married!
That's the rub (intended, lol).
It will probably slow a bit but it can't go totally cold and Anna can't "suddenly regret it and back off". Their relationship changed too much between the kitchen and shower.
There are certainly other characters that will get more attention but just as bad as having Anna regret and back away from Chris at this point would be going multiple updates with no interaction between them. Chris disappearing for a few updates would be as illogical as Anna just changing her mind.
Having experience with cheating once (not proud of it), after two people cheat there is a slight distancing for a day or two in that you may only call or text twice a day instead of nearly constantly. Then the guilt and awkwardness fades and it takes off far beyond what was ever planned. It goes from a moment to doing it as much as you can.
As I mentioned in another reply, the horrible part of cheating is that the guilt and shame becomes part of the excitment. Due to that you start to do crazy shit like fuck in your own house or make excuses for having to leave for the 5th time that day or at odd times. You're in a mindset like a drug addict where you think your GF/BF/Spouse doesn't know something is weird or off. They do, you're just not in your right mind.
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This is a forum, people exchange their opinions about vns and also the behavior of devs. 5 months for a shower scene is too much, period!
Silly fanboys like you get all agitated when criticized. But that's your problem, not mine. I have a full time job and a family myself btw.
And if this dev really has got a family, I wonder why he is so absolutely clueless about mothers with babies in his writing?
Anyway TeamEquipe I don't think you're capable of criticism in general, which you already showed when I dared to criticize the plot holes in your original story, right here in this thread, but a long time ago. That's quite immature of you. Hence I'm not wasting my time with your agitated rant. You weren't able to counter even a single of my points of criticism.
Instead you come up with the typical reaction of pouting children.
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Next time don’t say such a well thought out retort. I think TeamEquipe only knows tactic of “nuh uh”.This is a forum, people exchange their opinions about vns and also the behavior of devs. 5 months for a shower scene is too much, period!
Silly fanboys like you get all agitated when criticized. But that's your problem, not mine. I have a full time job and a family myself btw.
And if this dev really has got a family, I wonder why he is so absolutely clueless about mothers with babies in his writing?
Anyway TeamEquipe I don't think you're capable of criticism in general, which you already showed when I dared to criticize the plot holes in your original story, right here in this thread, but a long time ago. That's quite immature of you. Hence I'm not wasting my time with your agitated rant. You weren't able to counter even a single of my points of criticism.
Instead you come up with the typical reaction of pouting children.
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gotta hand it to Janet aka Kendra aka Loonie Cunt. she sure has thought of everything so far. David can't even get an opportunity to see her at the office since he has to be allowed in at the front desk. and having the gym trainer call Anna with even more lies was a big blow to David's attempts to prove his innocence. the odds are stacking up against him. which is why it was a welcome sight to see David and Anna block Chris from gaining access to their bedroom again. seeing him all pissed off as he walks away there was sweet poetic justice to me.
haven't played the cheating path part of the update yet..but..it's on my to do list..
#DEATHTOCHRIS
haven't played the cheating path part of the update yet..but..it's on my to do list..
#DEATHTOCHRIS
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