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Pdr602

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does it take a year, or more, to see some action ?
Yep, or more is correct. This is slow burn game. The developer has been upfront about that. That said, some "action" should start to happen in this next update, but I wouldn't expect a fuck fest. I think we're a few updates away from that kind of thing. Updates are usually every 3 months or so..
 

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Anna turns to the bottle to help her cope with her anxiety. Is this a good idea?

As for people asking for when the next update will be ready, I’m not sure, there’s some writing and artwork that still needs to be produced. It’s coming along though. I plan to post something soon about the upcoming update to manage expectations.
 

Ilcoriglianese forte

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Anna turns to the bottle to help her cope with her anxiety. Is this a good idea?

As for people asking for when the next update will be ready, I’m not sure, there’s some writing and artwork that still needs to be produced. It’s coming along though. I plan to post something soon about the upcoming update to manage expectations.​







In the end it's always the alcohol producers who profit in these stories, hahahaahahah
 

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Ugh... I'm all for more corrupted wifey, but is alcohol, blackmail or God forbid some kind of hypnosis involved the right call? I'm sure most people would enjoy it most if wifey WANTS to be lewd not wallow in regret afterwards about whatever "influenced" her. Just my opinion of course, will see what happens.
 

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most men are weak, they need help to get into the panties of women like Anna, therefore, alcohol, very delicate moments with lowered guard, drugs etc. someone like Anna would never give up except in these situations. Too easy to win games like this, hahahaahaaha,
 
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Anna turns to the bottle to help her cope with her anxiety. Is this a good idea?

As for people asking for when the next update will be ready, I’m not sure, there’s some writing and artwork that still needs to be produced. It’s coming along though. I plan to post something soon about the upcoming update to manage expectations.​

I can tell that Anna is going to have a very good time with Chris. Chris is going to give it to Anna and she is going to enjoy it. Especially with alcohol involved.
 
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Ugh... I'm all for more corrupted wifey, but is alcohol, blackmail or God forbid some kind of hypnosis involved the right call? I'm sure most people would enjoy it most if wifey WANTS to be lewd not wallow in regret afterwards about whatever "influenced" her. Just my opinion of course, will see what happens.
I also hate the hypnosis trope. It's boring because it takes an otherwise uncorrupted person and temporarily instantly corrupts them. All the work done in the game pushing them to become corrupt is totally trivialized. However, I also hate the "wifey just wants to be lewd" trope, because at that point there is no corruption to be done. I want to believe she's a good and faithful person to begin with and that it will be difficult to manipulate her to fall. Lots of games do the "she's just got this absolutely crazy sex drive" trope where the second the macho guy touches her nipples she goes into uncontrollable orgasm after orgasm and can't help her lewd instincts. It's as bad as the hypnosis to me. An initial step with blackmail or alcohol gets you from A to C narratively, providing that middle step that makes the corruption believable. I'd be fine with some other method too, but I don't like "she was just horny to begin with".
 

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I find it frustrating that game after game uses alcohol as a crutch to advance a woman's corruption. It's cliche and boring at this point.
It depends how much she drinks.
IRL, both men and women turn to alcohol when life throws them a curveball.
So why shouldn't the game show this? Mr_Palmer has said that he wants the game to be realistic and this is.
Of course, as we all know, booze is never the answer.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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I also hate the hypnosis trope. It's boring because it takes an otherwise uncorrupted person and temporarily instantly corrupts them. All the work done in the game pushing them to become corrupt is totally trivialized. However, I also hate the "wifey just wants to be lewd" trope, because at that point there is no corruption to be done. I want to believe she's a good and faithful person to begin with and that it will be difficult to manipulate her to fall. Lots of games do the "she's just got this absolutely crazy sex drive" trope where the second the macho guy touches her nipples she goes into uncontrollable orgasm after orgasm and can't help her lewd instincts. It's as bad as the hypnosis to me. An initial step with blackmail or alcohol gets you from A to C narratively, providing that middle step that makes the corruption believable. I'd be fine with some other method too, but I don't like "she was just horny to begin with".
I'd say the "horny wife" trope is bad, but still better than the hypnosis or alcohol tropes. What kills me about the horny wife trope is when the dev pairs it with the "prude wife" trope. You end up with a wife that is both a prude, seemingly completely inexperienced in every aspect of sex, but has a couple of kids, and is horny for every cock she can find. I think it's good to have women characters that embrace their sexuality, but it's completely idiotic to pair it with a women who doesn't know how to spell "sex". These characters want sex, but don't know how to give a blowjob, don't enjoy dirty thoughts, don't know how to flirt or accept a compliment, and are just generally a buzz kill.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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It depends how much she drinks.
IRL, both men and women turn to alcohol when life throws them a curveball.
So why shouldn't the game show this? Mr_Palmer has said that he wants the game to be realistic and this is.
Of course, as we all know, booze is never the answer.
Because APM doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's surrounded by other games that have overused the trope. At this point it's a lazy trope to rely on, and a good writer like Palmer can do better.

To be fair, we don't know that Palmer is actually going to fall into the trap, all we know is that Anna is going to drink and there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't want to see her drink and pull a 180 and do something out of character that she then blames on the alcohol.
 
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I'd say the "horny wife" trope is bad, but still better than the hypnosis or alcohol tropes. What kills me about the horny wife trope is when the dev pairs it with the "prude wife" trope. You end up with a wife that is both a prude, seemingly completely inexperienced in every aspect of sex, but has a couple of kids, and is horny for every cock she can find. I think it's good to have women characters that embrace their sexuality, but it's completely idiotic to pair it with a women who doesn't know how to spell "sex". These characters want sex, but don't know how to give a blowjob, don't enjoy dirty thoughts, don't know how to flirt or accept a compliment, and are just generally a buzz kill.
I agree that "horny wife" is better than hypnosis, but I'd still prefer the alcohol trope. Though the "aphrodisiac" trope is, in my opinion, exactly the same trope as hypnosis. And if the alcohol trope is used similarly to the aphrodisiac trope than it's just as bad. But my big problem with "horny wife" is if it's a corruption story the corruption has already taken place. I want the corruptible character to start more pure, not necessarily the "prude" trope where they don't know a single thing about sex, but not fantasizing about anal all day either. I want them to have taboos they feel uncomfortable violating to give them room to be corrupted. That's the point of the game in my eyes. So the horny wife trope might be slightly better than hypnosis but they both basically kill the game for me if you lean into them too hard.

Hypnosis is hard to use in moderation. The only way I've seen that done is "she was only willing to go so far in the first hypnosis session and then next time she goes farther, etc". Horny wife can be moderated by just having her have a totally normal sex drive, but I've seen very few examples of it used this way. It's almost always "I am so turned on and willing to upturn my whole life because his cock is bigger and that's secretly all I think about". Alcohol seems to be the easiest to work into a story without totally derailing it, though to your point I frequently see it used carelessly also. The best case of alcohol is the heroine is beginning to falter internally but won't let herself make a mistake sober, and then she drinks and goes JUST A LITTLE too far while drunk. Then she has to deal with the consequences later and it just sets up a believable circumstance for her to have taken that obviously inappropriate step. Blackmail can be used similarly. That's my two cents anyway. So far I've really liked Mr Palmer's writing, especially compared to his contemporaries, so I feel like he'll do ok with whatever trope he tries to use.
 

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Why renounce any method that brings you closer to your goal? The end justifies the means after all. And in the end I guess we all want the same: We want Anna see giving in to the termptations around her. The harder (and the sooner) the better...
Well, there may be very few players keeping her faithful and demure. But IMHO they might be more successful to satisfy their honorable kinks on Disney+...
 
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GingerSweetGirl

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I agree that "horny wife" is better than hypnosis, but I'd still prefer the alcohol trope. Though the "aphrodisiac" trope is, in my opinion, exactly the same trope as hypnosis. And if the alcohol trope is used similarly to the aphrodisiac trope than it's just as bad. But my big problem with "horny wife" is if it's a corruption story the corruption has already taken place. I want the corruptible character to start more pure, not necessarily the "prude" trope where they don't know a single thing about sex, but not fantasizing about anal all day either. I want them to have taboos they feel uncomfortable violating to give them room to be corrupted. That's the point of the game in my eyes. So the horny wife trope might be slightly better than hypnosis but they both basically kill the game for me if you lean into them too hard.

Hypnosis is hard to use in moderation. The only way I've seen that done is "she was only willing to go so far in the first hypnosis session and then next time she goes farther, etc". Horny wife can be moderated by just having her have a totally normal sex drive, but I've seen very few examples of it used this way. It's almost always "I am so turned on and willing to upturn my whole life because his cock is bigger and that's secretly all I think about". Alcohol seems to be the easiest to work into a story without totally derailing it, though to your point I frequently see it used carelessly also. The best case of alcohol is the heroine is beginning to falter internally but won't let herself make a mistake sober, and then she drinks and goes JUST A LITTLE too far while drunk. Then she has to deal with the consequences later and it just sets up a believable circumstance for her to have taken that obviously inappropriate step. Blackmail can be used similarly. That's my two cents anyway. So far I've really liked Mr Palmer's writing, especially compared to his contemporaries, so I feel like he'll do ok with whatever trope he tries to use.
What you're basically describing is a well written woman with a normal/healthy sex drive. And I can tell you, again as a woman, this is incredibly rare to find. Let's put aside APM for a minute, most devs don't seem to have a clue how to write for a woman and it drives me nuts. Look, I understand where I am, I know 99% of devs are amateurs doing their very best, and I know that writing for the opposite gender isn't easy; but some of these games make me question if the dev has even spoken to a woman in real life. Very few games have a character like you describe, someone with a normal sex drive with a healthy understanding of their limits.

In fact I think devs make it too hard on themselves. The corruption genre really isn't an easy one to write, but it's incredibly popular. I get why, but it requires a really good writer to make the corruption believable. It also requires a slow-burn, and as we all know slow-burn games have a bad habit of being abandoned. So I think devs would make it easier on themselves, while maintaining the core of the corruption, if they started a game with a woman with a normal sex drive and a healthy sexuality. Then when you use a trope like alcohol it isn't such a jarring change in her character, it just pushes her where she already wanted to go.
 
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