VN Ren'Py A Perfect Marriage [v0.7.3b] [Mr Palmer]

[jimmyjambles]

The whole reluctance angle… here’s my thought process.

I’ve played a number of VNs, and still do when I have some time. What I hate is when I want the female to have some standards and I reject advances because I want the female to show faithfulness, but when doing that, options are taken away and it’s assumed I want the faithful/happy route. That’s the worst. Therefore, I want people who play this VN to have a path where Anna can reject advances but still fall in the end.

Yeah, I don't necessarily want a female protagonist to make the sluttiest decisions possible. A swift descent might be fun for a while, but it quickly gives her nowhere interesting to go. If anything, I'm more drawn in by the few games where options are taken away if advances are accepted. I think it can create some interesting tension. If it's going to be an actual game with an actual story instead of just the exploration of a fantasy, maybe present the player with conflicts and decisions that they have to weigh. Since they are playing the role of a protagonist in a story, where conflicts and potentially difficult decisions are central to the experience.

 

[Mike@]

oh boy another male char show up, rather focusing on the stories already have

 

[LynxLinks]

oh boy another male char show up, rather focusing on the stories already have

It's the dev equivalent of moving a pan of simmering water onto a new electric stove that's yet to be turned on, and now we wait.

 

[daibilhsy]

next time give Marvin a handjob or blowjob plz！！！！all we want see it happen

 

[el diablo rojo]

Mr. Palmer,

3 things

One, thank you for being a native English speaker or at least being fluent in the language. So many of these visual novels just have some strange dialogue that in many cases is just awkward and in others is just dumb - i.e. no one talks like that.

Two, your story is great. This is a silly porn game and all of these incels going on and on like this is some great literary work of art are just idiots. Criticizing the ability to make choices, Anna as a woman, the plot, old men jacking off, denying Chris, etc. Your life has to be pretty empty to write dissertations about your problems with a PORN GAME. Losers.

Three, You released this game in May of 2022 so we are coming up on 2 YEARS! I just want to see Anna have sexual acts with someone besides her husband. Blowjobs, vaginal, anal, DP, with Marvin, Senstromber, Chris, Jake - I don't care who just something, anything. My only criticism is that you took way too much time to lay the ground work in the story, the next update will at least be months away and there are no guarantees that Anna will have some sort of sex in that update. Please begin moving forward with the sex.

Thanks

 

[mulerider]

Mr. Palmer,

3 things

One, thank you for being a native English speaker or at least being fluent in the language. So many of these visual novels just have some strange dialogue that in many cases is just awkward and in others is just dumb - i.e. no one talks like that.

Two, your story is great. This is a silly porn game and all of these incels going on and on like this is some great literary work of art are just idiots. Criticizing the ability to make choices, Anna as a woman, the plot, old men jacking off, denying Chris, etc. Your life has to be pretty empty to write dissertations about your problems with a PORN GAME. Losers.

Three, You released this game in May of 2022 so we are coming up on 2 YEARS! I just want to see Anna have sexual acts with someone besides her husband. Blowjobs, vaginal, anal, DP, with Marvin, Senstromber, Chris, Jake - I don't care who just something, anything. My only criticism is that you took way too much time to lay the ground work in the story, the next update will at least be months away and there are no guarantees that Anna will have some sort of sex in that update. Please begin moving forward with the sex.

Thanks

good luck on that, you have about another two years for that

 

[eos_eos]

 

[AceMan07]

The most useless update idk what's wrong with these devs now days too little to nothing in months is absolutely milking and fooling patreons people should stop paying to this kind of slow milking games it's the people fault that these kind of devs are taking advantage of an making money without doing absolutely nothing at all.

 

[sandstone7734]

this is just getting sadder and sadder. it was hot for a long time. it's too one-sided

Seams like it lacks someone outside of her marriage that actually likes Anna, rather than sees her as a piece of meat to devour.

 

[mrobviouspsudonym]

Seams like it lacks someone outside of her marriage that actually likes Anna, rather than sees her as a piece of meat to devour.

I mean, maybe if she was an interesting character who had redeeming/good qualities and was in an actual story we could hope for that. But realistically, the best that can be hoped for in this particular ntr game is that she doesn't default to pretending she has no idea what's happening when they stick their dick in her the way she does about damn near every other aspect of her life.

 

[sanchotx]

Seams like it lacks someone outside of her marriage that actually likes Anna, rather than sees her as a piece of meat to devour.

hard to explain. i can handle the cheating if that's what she wanted. like in her desire where the wife is openly experimenting behind the husband's back. its hard to feel any sympathy for the wife here. she's an idiot and she's guilty of the shit she's accusing her husband of. just not likeable.

 

[Rockpaper345]

Every time I come to this site there is a person complaining how the game is.

FFS. If I was a developer I would have dropped this game long time ago.
Ungrateful people who cannot appreciate the quality of the work.

Mr Palmer is not holed up in the room all day, he clearly has a job and a family and a life.

I will say this again, if u re such an expert in VN games why don't u create one. Let's see u do it.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I'm not as harsh as many of you, I think Mr. Palmer has overall done a good job and I try to appreciate how challenging the creative process is. But this update is hard to swallow. Like many of you have said, Anna's character development feels really uneven and nonsensical. It's one thing for a character to be confused or in denial, but Anna is frustrating because her justification doesn't feel natural. I can't tell if she's actually just oblivious, awful, dumb, or genuinely confused and mixed up. It also bothers me that the plot against David is getting so absurdly out of control, like it's breaking my suspension of disbelief.

But more immediately, I can't believe that we just got an update with virtually no lewd content. After 18+ months, we just got an update where the only scene that was remotely lewd included a butt grab and voyeurism via hidden cam. I actually can't believe that happened. I know it wasn't super long since 0.7.0a, but this update wasn't lacking in story content. And while we all know this game isn't strictly a porn game, I think this update still sorely under-delivered in sexual content. I've supported this game in the past, and I've considered supporting this game again in the future, but after an update like this I don't think I could justify it. This game isn't much fun right now, in fact it's kinda turning into a slog.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Every time I come to this site there is a person complaining how the game is.

FFS. If I was a developer I would have dropped this game long time ago.
Ungrateful people who cannot appreciate the quality of the work.

Mr Palmer is not holed up in the room all day, he clearly has a job and a family and a life.

I will say this again, if u re such an expert in VN games why don't u create one. Let's see u do it.

Development a game is so incredibly hard, I give Mr. Palmer a lot of credit for what he's created and for his success. He's definitely created a game that has a great foundation. I have no doubt that he's doing the best he can and I don't see him as a "milker". But I do think that there are some creative decisions being made that aren't helping to maximize this game's potential, and I think that's worth discussion.

APM also doesn't exist in a vacuum. I think many people here have been burned too many times by other games and are jaded for it. In a vacuum I don't think APM would get 90% of the criticism it gets. But because there are countless examples of games just like it that have flamed out, I think people are quick to see red flags.

 

[JASipa]

I already saw the update and I understand why most people are a little disappointed, I can't blame them, but for my opinion it was acceptable, at least marvin is moving forward so I'm happy.

 

[VrVic]

I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this. But damn a lot of bitching and moaning about a free game on a pirate site. Just move along if it's not your thing.

we'll do exactly that, but before I take myself and my blue balls someplace else... I didn't enjoyed the last couple updates, All I got to see was Dicks...dudes jerking off their geriatric penises. This game smells a bit like AWAM and I'm not falling for it ever again. peace out!!

 

[luxilfer666]

"You can save or destroy their marriage. We have multipe choice options but you can't choose. Anna will still get molested–even get fucked by every men you don't prefer in that choices. No, no, no, she won't get raped because somehow she's gonna like it, too. Huh? You don't like Anna because we write her as an egomaniac narcisstic mentally unstable woman that you can't change her decisions throughout the choices in the game? Fuck off then, find another games!"

Literally.

 

[Rodrigo Tannuri]

MC loves old men

 

[Newguy1]

I don't get how people can compare this game to AWAM, which is probably the only game i've removed from my watchlist and would even block, just to never see it ever again. AWAM dev produces 0.1 to 0.5% of an update in literally every 1 and half year. That game is so inhumanly frustrating, to the point where I feel he's testing his contributor's/community intelligence.

Another developer going by the name Dr Bones, resurfaces one in a decade to present an absolute 0.0000000000001% of this game and then goes into hibernation again. Jessica o'neil Hard News dev makes 1 freaking update per year. What a legend developer (Magicnuts) posted their last update in July 2022, and the infamous dev ICSTOR who dragged Milfy City for a decade, with the game being tagged as abandoned multiple times, with him coming back each time it got tagged.

you want stats, there you have it, some of the best examples... APM does not even compare to them or their devs from any angle.
Imagine if J.K Rowling wrote Harry Potter by public opinion, harry waves a magical dildo and saves Hogwarts, and every girl spreads their legs to harry. Imagine if Lee Child wrote Reacher where the villains would surrender cuz Jack would threaten to turn their wives or gfs into cum sluts. Comparing an active game to a dying or dormant one which you are already disappointed with and then bitching in this forum about some other dev game, makes zero sense and no1 cares, as also directing their narrative to what you want or you'll be disappointed.

Also to further point out, the same griefs and disappointments were presented in all the above mentioned game forums, did it change anything? no!, Did the devs suddenly turn super active and squeezed out an update every day/week/month? no!, Instead they just stopped communicating and clearly didn't give a rats ass about what people want or think, to the point they would just not update until they felt like doing so. If you can't get them to push out proper updates, why demotivate and cry on this forum that's actually making positive progress?

 

[luxilfer666]

Correct, the flashback scenes pre-date the story and are meant to show that Anna has had weaknesses when it comes to deviously aggressive men in the past. She’s always skated by without trouble, so that’s why she thinks it isn’t a big deal when she’s currently pursued by other men. She believes she’s in control. Unfortunately, she’s finding out she’s not always in control. Ultimately since she’s been married she’s always escaped to David being her reason for not going any further with other men. Now? Well… she can no longer rely on that defense like she used to. She may even do things in spite of that. We’ll see.

One thing I can add is a shortcut to skip the Stenstromber flashbacks, similar to what I did with Robinson’s massage flashback. It’s not hard to insert that.

You don't get my point, smh. Anna's response to Marvin in the changing room scenes is very weak after I made her reject all his approaches. Given the experience she had to deal with the same kind of old pervert in the form of Stormsborg, she should've done better at that moment. Only a warning isn't enough and you confirm it a few seconds later in Marvin's inner monologue. If Marvin still has the ball to mess with her in next updates after all these rejection and Anna just simply reacts to give him–God know how many–another warning, then what's the point of those choices I made? If your excuse because Anna has "high tolerance of men trying to use her as sexual gratification", then I'm not going to make a fair critism anymore because apparently you just offer the players two doors but both will still end up in the same shithole.