VN Ren'Py A Perfect Marriage [v0.7.3b] [Mr Palmer]

[Mark2000]

I personally think all of those should be options. If it is only that she wants to be a slut then I for one am not interested. Being a whore because you want to be a whore when you are married or have a boyfriend or girlfriend makes you a horrible person. Being a whore because you are forced into it is much more sympathetic.

Anna reminisced with Kendra about her "wild" time in college, where she was quite promiscuous. So she has that bitch background, except that when she finished college she decided to go back to being the "good girl" that dad wanted and focus on a job, a husband, a family,... but I think she has that bitch background . antecedents and it will be what tips the balance towards infidelity. Of course, if her father were alive, she wouldn't even consider cheating on him or flirting with Chris, since she would be divorcing David and she would be a single, working mother. The way she interacts with Chris tells it because she, although she doesn't want to admit it, is already cheating on David by flirting with him and almost sending him sexting messages.

 

[luxilfer666]

You can say “gotcha” scenes but Anna will just put it in the vault and as long as she pretends nothing happened to her in the land of make believe then her narcissistic unstable brain will think everything is just peachy and A ok

Palmer said all of that, not me.
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-perfect-marriage-v0-7b-mr-palmer.118449/post-12914729

 

[Mark2000]

I hope the developer shows us a self-sacrificing side of Anna, where she still loves David more than anything but circumstances force her to be physically unfaithful for a limited time.

Otherwise Anna degenerates into a cum slut with no morals and every player rightly gets upset about how naive she is because the developer wants to do a balancing act of showing her innocent for a long time.

Anna is not a girl. She is an adult woman with a past behind her. At University she was no saint and she maintained several relationships. She escaped Dad's gaze and the brothers' control and began to spread her legs. When she finished that wild period she decided to be a responsible woman and looked for a good option for a husband, a provider, loving and faithful man. She basically knew very well what she wanted to have a happy and secure marriage. So now it is not worth thinking that she is a naive girl that anyone can fool, she will do what deep down she wants to do, even if she believes that she is honest with herself and what she does is in response to what she receives from others.

 

[garret64]

Anna is not a girl. She is an adult woman with a past behind her. At University she was no saint and she maintained several relationships. She escaped Dad's gaze and the brothers' control and began to spread her legs. When she finished that wild period she decided to be a responsible woman and looked for a good option for a husband, a provider, loving and faithful man. She basically knew very well what she wanted to have a happy and secure marriage. So now it is not worth thinking that she is a naive girl that anyone can fool, she will do what deep down she wants to do, even if she believes that she is honest with herself and what she does is in response to what she receives from others.

Precisely because she is not a girl, voluntary sexual acts with Marvin, Hank and, in the future, Strenstomber seem very forced to many players, which is why many are upset about Anna's naivety.

I just wanted to point out a way to make it more realistic and avoid the shitstorm for the developer.

It's just bullshit that Anna spreads her legs for Marvin, the guy has nothing to offer, no status and no attractiveness.

 

[jackdiddley]

I'm not as harsh as many of you, I think Mr. Palmer has overall done a good job and I try to appreciate how challenging the creative process is. But this update is hard to swallow. Like many of you have said, Anna's character development feels really uneven and nonsensical. It's one thing for a character to be confused or in denial, but Anna is frustrating because her justification doesn't feel natural. I can't tell if she's actually just oblivious, awful, dumb, or genuinely confused and mixed up. It also bothers me that the plot against David is getting so absurdly out of control, like it's breaking my suspension of disbelief.

But more immediately, I can't believe that we just got an update with virtually no lewd content. After 18+ months, we just got an update where the only scene that was remotely lewd included a butt grab and voyeurism via hidden cam. I actually can't believe that happened. I know it wasn't super long since 0.7.0a, but this update wasn't lacking in story content. And while we all know this game isn't strictly a porn game, I think this update still sorely under-delivered in sexual content. I've supported this game in the past, and I've considered supporting this game again in the future, but after an update like this I don't think I could justify it. This game isn't much fun right now, in fact it's kinda turning into a slog.

I think he compensates by letting the user choose her response. There are usually 3 optons (sometimes 2):
1) she shuts things down (GW route)
2) she is oblivious to what's really going one (DW route)
3) she goes along with it or is coerced (SW route)

But, that also means he has to make 3 paths for each character trying to nail Anna, which leads to long/slow development. (as we see in AWAM but, L&P is deliberately milking at this point).

 

[jackdiddley]

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If you're talking about this option, it would never exist if you continually reject Marvin:
1. Office break room scene: "Anna is uncomfortable"
2. Lunch date invitation: "I have no interest..."
3. Breastfeeding room: "Don't tease him."
4. Lunch date invitation (again): "Reject his invitation."
5. Bar scene (1st attempt): "Deny him."
In the other hand, we immediately get a scene where Marvin spanked her ass, then Anna elbowed and warned him, which in my opinion, the proper Anna's response should've slapped the shit out of him. Right now, I will let it slide as Palmer's excuse of why Anna didn't do that because she has "high tolerance bla bla". But, if we get a similar situation between Marvin and Anna in this particular route option in future updates and Anna's reaction is exactly like what happened in the changing room scene, then I'm convinced that the "naive" traits that Palmer writes on Anna is simply misused. Pity sex (which Palmer explained in his latest comments) with Marvin won't make sense either in this route. The only possible way Marvin could further sexually exploit Anna in this route is through blackmail but it also depends whether Anna is also "naive" enough as a lawyer or not.

Stopping/Slapping him would probably change his path to the route of blackmail to get what he wants.

 

[luxilfer666]

Stopping/Slapping him would probably change his path to the route of blackmail to get what he wants.

If Marvin's blackmail scheme is concinving enough and Anna doesn't have any other choices even with her capabilty as a lawyer, then it would make sense. But as far as we get now, with what kind of evidence will Marvin blackmail her? Posting the video of her breastfeeding her baby online? A capable lawyer would easily argue that. I have one possible scenario where Marvin could successfully blackmail her into having sex, but I won't share the idea as I want to see how the Dev play this one out. So, we'll see.

 

[Firebless]

Most infuriating/useless/pathetic fluff characters in the history of fiction:

5. Ross Gellar - Friends


4. Jared Leto's Joker


3. Will Wheaton - Star Trek


2. Jar Jar Binks - Star Wars


1. Leonard and Rob - A Perfect Marriage... and a waste of time

 

[Pollux]

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Hello Patrons, Now that the update has been released to everyone, I'd like to take the opportunity to give some thoughts on it before I go full gear into the next update. As I've said before, this update felt like a necessary bridge to set up the rest of Part 3. Part 2 ended with the "blowup"... the story needed to decompress before having Anna and David come to grips with the situation. The update ends with David moving back home. There was a chance Anna and David would live separately, but I feel like it's more interesting to see the dynamic between husband and wife as this story unfolds living under the same roof. A side benefit is - I won't have to spend more time using two separate residences. It's also practical that unhappy spouses choose to remain living at the same house, which isn't uncommon for financial reasons and child custody reasons. Monday, Anna and David will go back to work under their new reality. Both still aren't exactly sure what's going on, but based on the choices you made in Parts 1 and 2, Anna is more or less skeptical, and we could see this come into play down the road as to how convinced Anna is that David cheated on her. An interesting thing to note is how lacking in communication the two of them are when it comes to Anna's mom and David's father. They hope this all disappears before having to break the news. It could be costly that they haven't involved the parents, being that both of them need allies right now. Instead, they have people putting poison into their ears (not literally). As for the influx of character involvement (Marcel, Leonard, Robinson, and Stenstromber)... Some feel it's getting crowded. There's several reasons for including these characters, but one thing I'll say is that some of these characters have a purpose beyond being another cock wanting to get inside Anna. For example, Marcel is a tool to link the gym to David and Anna, being that the gym is the only known place that Alexia frequented. And we know that Kendra and Alexia has corrupted him, so his interactions with Anna could make a difference in the story. Another example, Leonard. He's not a feature character, but he witnessed Kendra's setup being executed. That's an important piece of information. The problem is that Leonard is a complicated individual. He's been through a lot in life and is jaded by his failure to be successful. He doesn't care much for David, and he lusts after Anna. Can we expect that he'll be responsible with this information? Probably not. I'll just say that some characters are featured more than others, but I want each of them to have a purpose in the story... not just some extra dude cluttering the picture. I don't have plans to add more that would make any significant impact. You may see a new character here and there (i.e. the gym receptionist), but I don't have plans to add anything significant since I'm wanting to focus on concluding, not expanding. As for the paths... Nothing's really changed here. You probably notice that the story seems linear. Part of that is because in order to push the story along, you can't have branches that extend far out and expect to do things timely. For example, the pool scene was a very large scene. Some people would say "I rejected Marvin; Anna would never go to a pool with him or be caught alone in locker room with him!" Okay, I understand that, but either a) the update would be short for the marvin rejecter, or b) production would be delayed a week or two for us to craft another large scene with Anna going shopping or somewhere else instead of the pool scene with Marvin. Generally speaking, I'm trying to craft a story with multiple variations largely using the same renders. If you've influenced Anna to have a hidden pleasure teasing Marvin, she'll let him grope her. If you've influenced Anna to not like Marvin, she'll stop him quickly. You'll notice the dialogue is different throughout the scene depending on that too. But in the end, I'm using the same setting of Anna and Marvin at the pool because I want to push the story forward and not have the branches go crazy. Sure, there may be instances in the future where two separate settings are needed for paths, but I'm trying to minimize that. And I've mentioned this many times about the paths, but I'll remind you, I want people - if they so desire - to play a path where Anna is reluctant but still might cave in eventually to a pursuer or decide to give in for some other reason. This is why Marvin and Chris are still around perving on Anna even though you may have advised her to reject them at all times.... because, at some point, she could given in to their advances reluctantly, which can be hot in its own way. I'll certainly give you an obvious choice when that time comes. If you never want her to give into a character, fine, I won't force that, just make the right decisions when the time comes. In fact, if you do reject someone until the end, that may end up resulting in an ending for that character that satisfies you. I'm not promising it, but I HOPE to make you happy if you hate a particular character(s). As for sex/nudity - I'll explain this again because this is a common complaint. Obviously, we are moving closer to that point in time. I've said before that this isn't your standard corruption story where you need a lot of time to corrupt a woman realistically. This is a story about a woman who has urges and emotional conflicts beneath the surface, and she hides them behind a thick wall of a faithful marriage. It takes a confluence of events to tear the wall down quickly. There will still be a progression with the levels of lewdness, but this isn't something where it will take a week for her to touch a penis with a gloved hand, and another week before she takes the glove off when she touches said penis. I won't lay out a timeline for everything, but I hope it's obvious that I fully intend to make progress with Anna's seductions over the course of the coming week... all while she'll be living in the same house as David. (Yikes!) Expectations on timing of next update - I'm not going to give a timeline as usual. In looking at the outline I've built and have been tinkering with, Monday will be packed with content, and I will likely feature some of Tuesday as well. It's going to take time, I can guarantee it. I'm going to try to limit things that have buildup as much as my brain allows for. I will do my best in the amount of free time I have. I'm not exaggerating to say that it always takes more time than I anticipate, and I'm sure other developers can attest to that. I'll just keep chugging along and do the best I can while not sacrificing quality! One thing I want to add is a character bio feature, but we'll see. The top priority with my time on this is always to progress the story. Character bios are nice, but everyone would rather see the next update. Thanks everyone for your support. I'm humbled by it, and whether you enjoy the story or not, I wish you the best. More to come soon.​

 

[atrebor68]

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Hello Patrons, Now that the update has been released to everyone, I'd like to take the opportunity to give some thoughts on it before I go full gear into the next update. As I've said before, this update felt like a necessary bridge to set up the rest of Part 3. Part 2 ended with the "blowup"... the story needed to decompress before having Anna and David come to grips with the situation. The update ends with David moving back home. There was a chance Anna and David would live separately, but I feel like it's more interesting to see the dynamic between husband and wife as this story unfolds living under the same roof. A side benefit is - I won't have to spend more time using two separate residences. It's also practical that unhappy spouses choose to remain living at the same house, which isn't uncommon for financial reasons and child custody reasons. Monday, Anna and David will go back to work under their new reality. Both still aren't exactly sure what's going on, but based on the choices you made in Parts 1 and 2, Anna is more or less skeptical, and we could see this come into play down the road as to how convinced Anna is that David cheated on her. An interesting thing to note is how lacking in communication the two of them are when it comes to Anna's mom and David's father. They hope this all disappears before having to break the news. It could be costly that they haven't involved the parents, being that both of them need allies right now. Instead, they have people putting poison into their ears (not literally). As for the influx of character involvement (Marcel, Leonard, Robinson, and Stenstromber)... Some feel it's getting crowded. There's several reasons for including these characters, but one thing I'll say is that some of these characters have a purpose beyond being another cock wanting to get inside Anna. For example, Marcel is a tool to link the gym to David and Anna, being that the gym is the only known place that Alexia frequented. And we know that Kendra and Alexia has corrupted him, so his interactions with Anna could make a difference in the story. Another example, Leonard. He's not a feature character, but he witnessed Kendra's setup being executed. That's an important piece of information. The problem is that Leonard is a complicated individual. He's been through a lot in life and is jaded by his failure to be successful. He doesn't care much for David, and he lusts after Anna. Can we expect that he'll be responsible with this information? Probably not. I'll just say that some characters are featured more than others, but I want each of them to have a purpose in the story... not just some extra dude cluttering the picture. I don't have plans to add more that would make any significant impact. You may see a new character here and there (i.e. the gym receptionist), but I don't have plans to add anything significant since I'm wanting to focus on concluding, not expanding. As for the paths... Nothing's really changed here. You probably notice that the story seems linear. Part of that is because in order to push the story along, you can't have branches that extend far out and expect to do things timely. For example, the pool scene was a very large scene. Some people would say "I rejected Marvin; Anna would never go to a pool with him or be caught alone in locker room with him!" Okay, I understand that, but either a) the update would be short for the marvin rejecter, or b) production would be delayed a week or two for us to craft another large scene with Anna going shopping or somewhere else instead of the pool scene with Marvin. Generally speaking, I'm trying to craft a story with multiple variations largely using the same renders. If you've influenced Anna to have a hidden pleasure teasing Marvin, she'll let him grope her. If you've influenced Anna to not like Marvin, she'll stop him quickly. You'll notice the dialogue is different throughout the scene depending on that too. But in the end, I'm using the same setting of Anna and Marvin at the pool because I want to push the story forward and not have the branches go crazy. Sure, there may be instances in the future where two separate settings are needed for paths, but I'm trying to minimize that. And I've mentioned this many times about the paths, but I'll remind you, I want people - if they so desire - to play a path where Anna is reluctant but still might cave in eventually to a pursuer or decide to give in for some other reason. This is why Marvin and Chris are still around perving on Anna even though you may have advised her to reject them at all times.... because, at some point, she could given in to their advances reluctantly, which can be hot in its own way. I'll certainly give you an obvious choice when that time comes. If you never want her to give into a character, fine, I won't force that, just make the right decisions when the time comes. In fact, if you do reject someone until the end, that may end up resulting in an ending for that character that satisfies you. I'm not promising it, but I HOPE to make you happy if you hate a particular character(s). As for sex/nudity - I'll explain this again because this is a common complaint. Obviously, we are moving closer to that point in time. I've said before that this isn't your standard corruption story where you need a lot of time to corrupt a woman realistically. This is a story about a woman who has urges and emotional conflicts beneath the surface, and she hides them behind a thick wall of a faithful marriage. It takes a confluence of events to tear the wall down quickly. There will still be a progression with the levels of lewdness, but this isn't something where it will take a week for her to touch a penis with a gloved hand, and another week before she takes the glove off when she touches said penis. I won't lay out a timeline for everything, but I hope it's obvious that I fully intend to make progress with Anna's seductions over the course of the coming week... all while she'll be living in the same house as David. (Yikes!) Expectations on timing of next update - I'm not going to give a timeline as usual. In looking at the outline I've built and have been tinkering with, Monday will be packed with content, and I will likely feature some of Tuesday as well. It's going to take time, I can guarantee it. I'm going to try to limit things that have buildup as much as my brain allows for. I will do my best in the amount of free time I have. I'm not exaggerating to say that it always takes more time than I anticipate, and I'm sure other developers can attest to that. I'll just keep chugging along and do the best I can while not sacrificing quality! One thing I want to add is a character bio feature, but we'll see. The top priority with my time on this is always to progress the story. Character bios are nice, but everyone would rather see the next update. Thanks everyone for your support. I'm humbled by it, and whether you enjoy the story or not, I wish you the best. More to come soon.​

”In this episode finally the wife will watch Netflix for 8 hours”

 

[Sadowdark]

If Marvin's blackmail scheme is concinving enough and Anna doesn't have any other choices even with her capabilty as a lawyer, then it would make sense. But as far as we get now, with what kind of evidence will Marvin blackmail her? Posting the video of her breastfeeding her baby online? A capable lawyer would easily argue that. I have one possible scenario where Marvin could successfully blackmail her into having sex, but I won't share the idea as I want to see how the Dev play this one out. So, we'll see.

Old fish Marvin won't blackmail her with the photos he took because they're weak. He would have to take better compromising photos.

 

[FookU2]

So, what's the difference between 7a and 7b?

 

[luxilfer666]

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Hello Patrons, Now that the update has been released to everyone, I'd like to take the opportunity to give some thoughts on it before I go full gear into the next update. As I've said before, this update felt like a necessary bridge to set up the rest of Part 3. Part 2 ended with the "blowup"... the story needed to decompress before having Anna and David come to grips with the situation. The update ends with David moving back home. There was a chance Anna and David would live separately, but I feel like it's more interesting to see the dynamic between husband and wife as this story unfolds living under the same roof. A side benefit is - I won't have to spend more time using two separate residences. It's also practical that unhappy spouses choose to remain living at the same house, which isn't uncommon for financial reasons and child custody reasons. Monday, Anna and David will go back to work under their new reality. Both still aren't exactly sure what's going on, but based on the choices you made in Parts 1 and 2, Anna is more or less skeptical, and we could see this come into play down the road as to how convinced Anna is that David cheated on her. An interesting thing to note is how lacking in communication the two of them are when it comes to Anna's mom and David's father. They hope this all disappears before having to break the news. It could be costly that they haven't involved the parents, being that both of them need allies right now. Instead, they have people putting poison into their ears (not literally). As for the influx of character involvement (Marcel, Leonard, Robinson, and Stenstromber)... Some feel it's getting crowded. There's several reasons for including these characters, but one thing I'll say is that some of these characters have a purpose beyond being another cock wanting to get inside Anna. For example, Marcel is a tool to link the gym to David and Anna, being that the gym is the only known place that Alexia frequented. And we know that Kendra and Alexia has corrupted him, so his interactions with Anna could make a difference in the story. Another example, Leonard. He's not a feature character, but he witnessed Kendra's setup being executed. That's an important piece of information. The problem is that Leonard is a complicated individual. He's been through a lot in life and is jaded by his failure to be successful. He doesn't care much for David, and he lusts after Anna. Can we expect that he'll be responsible with this information? Probably not. I'll just say that some characters are featured more than others, but I want each of them to have a purpose in the story... not just some extra dude cluttering the picture. I don't have plans to add more that would make any significant impact. You may see a new character here and there (i.e. the gym receptionist), but I don't have plans to add anything significant since I'm wanting to focus on concluding, not expanding. As for the paths... Nothing's really changed here. You probably notice that the story seems linear. Part of that is because in order to push the story along, you can't have branches that extend far out and expect to do things timely. For example, the pool scene was a very large scene. Some people would say "I rejected Marvin; Anna would never go to a pool with him or be caught alone in locker room with him!" Okay, I understand that, but either a) the update would be short for the marvin rejecter, or b) production would be delayed a week or two for us to craft another large scene with Anna going shopping or somewhere else instead of the pool scene with Marvin. Generally speaking, I'm trying to craft a story with multiple variations largely using the same renders. If you've influenced Anna to have a hidden pleasure teasing Marvin, she'll let him grope her. If you've influenced Anna to not like Marvin, she'll stop him quickly. You'll notice the dialogue is different throughout the scene depending on that too. But in the end, I'm using the same setting of Anna and Marvin at the pool because I want to push the story forward and not have the branches go crazy. Sure, there may be instances in the future where two separate settings are needed for paths, but I'm trying to minimize that. And I've mentioned this many times about the paths, but I'll remind you, I want people - if they so desire - to play a path where Anna is reluctant but still might cave in eventually to a pursuer or decide to give in for some other reason. This is why Marvin and Chris are still around perving on Anna even though you may have advised her to reject them at all times.... because, at some point, she could given in to their advances reluctantly, which can be hot in its own way. I'll certainly give you an obvious choice when that time comes. If you never want her to give into a character, fine, I won't force that, just make the right decisions when the time comes. In fact, if you do reject someone until the end, that may end up resulting in an ending for that character that satisfies you. I'm not promising it, but I HOPE to make you happy if you hate a particular character(s). As for sex/nudity - I'll explain this again because this is a common complaint. Obviously, we are moving closer to that point in time. I've said before that this isn't your standard corruption story where you need a lot of time to corrupt a woman realistically. This is a story about a woman who has urges and emotional conflicts beneath the surface, and she hides them behind a thick wall of a faithful marriage. It takes a confluence of events to tear the wall down quickly. There will still be a progression with the levels of lewdness, but this isn't something where it will take a week for her to touch a penis with a gloved hand, and another week before she takes the glove off when she touches said penis. I won't lay out a timeline for everything, but I hope it's obvious that I fully intend to make progress with Anna's seductions over the course of the coming week... all while she'll be living in the same house as David. (Yikes!) Expectations on timing of next update - I'm not going to give a timeline as usual. In looking at the outline I've built and have been tinkering with, Monday will be packed with content, and I will likely feature some of Tuesday as well. It's going to take time, I can guarantee it. I'm going to try to limit things that have buildup as much as my brain allows for. I will do my best in the amount of free time I have. I'm not exaggerating to say that it always takes more time than I anticipate, and I'm sure other developers can attest to that. I'll just keep chugging along and do the best I can while not sacrificing quality! One thing I want to add is a character bio feature, but we'll see. The top priority with my time on this is always to progress the story. Character bios are nice, but everyone would rather see the next update. Thanks everyone for your support. I'm humbled by it, and whether you enjoy the story or not, I wish you the best. More to come soon.​

That 10-15 minutes of adding character bios feature could've spent making or, at least, brainstorming a scene worth watching. I'm assumming that the dev realize that most people isn't pleased with Marvin and Grant jerking off scenes. So, personally, no, I'm against the idea.

 

[garret64]

Photos that show intimacy between Hank and Anna would be much more shocking to Anna.

It would give the impression that Anna slept her way up.

Combined with her narcissistic personality, Anna can't risk this becoming public in the company and giving in to Marvin.

 

[sonne1999]

So, what's the difference between 7a and 7b?

It's basically Sunday and Anna spends time at the pool with Kendra and Marvin. Also the added bonus of watching Marvin and Mr. Weinsteinstromber wanking off fantasizing about Anna. But happily not at the same time as that would be gross.

 

[Sadowdark]

Photos that show intimacy between Hank and Anna would be much more shocking to Anna.

It would give the impression that Anna slept her way up.

Combined with her narcissistic personality, Anna can't risk this becoming public in the company and giving in to Marvin.

But what if the penguin was in a compromising situation, the old fish could take advantage of it, but I doubt the penguin would care because he only has two years left to live.

 

[shavone1]

When the option for Anna to fuck Leonard arrives, I hope its three choices and all of them are "fuck yes!". Man reveals truth and saves the perfect marriage by fucking the wife, what a legend.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

...don t forget to give "Uncle Chris" nice greetings from Anna and David, in form of a 12 Gauge Shotgun. They can use the last Bullets for the Rest of the bunch of ugly ass guys and , of course, for "fucked up Kendra". Now that would be my Happy Ending.

 

[garret64]

But what if the penguin was in a compromising situation, the old fish could take advantage of it, but I doubt the penguin would care because he only has two years left to live.

You misunderstood me, it's not about Hank's reputation but about Anna's, if photos of her and Hank suddenly appear that are clear, everyone will think that Anna spread her legs for a higher position and in my opinion Anna can't do that accept.

 

[Sadowdark]

You misunderstood me, it's not about Hank's reputation but about Anna's, if photos of her and Hank suddenly appear that are clear, everyone will think that Anna spread her legs for a higher position and in my opinion Anna can't do that accept.

At first, Kendra thought that Anna had gotten a promotion at work this way