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Sharpx23

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All these money sites should have rules where if you're developing a game. The max cost a game should be is 75$, so when you hit the 75$ cap you can't donate anymore money. This way there would be restricted monthly donations, so you could maximum ask people to donate $5 a month, Which means in about 1 year they would have paid 60$ and be very close to the 75$ cap. Singular donations of any amount can exist, but they would not be tied to subscription at all. This way the tier for subscriptions would be around 1 dollar for base, 3 dollars mid, and 5 dollars high tier. People who pay 1 dollar a month, would be prevented from donating after 6 years, since that would hit 72$, they can do non subscription donations, or fuck off basically.

21.50 is the price of some early access games on steam... which give me over 100 hours of play time. Can I jerk off to underboob and leg flashes in this game for 100 hours? I can't believe anyone is paying 21.50 more than once, and I can't believe this shit patreon site allows that sort of indulgence. Needs government regulation.

for $258, i can buy 4 triple A games. Like helldivers 2, baldursgate 3, Elden ring, Dragons Dogma 2, etc. And it's not a stretch to compare this to steam prices since lots of porn games are on steam now.
 
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TheUberstuff

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All these money sites should have rules where if you're developing a game. The max cost a game should be is 75$, so when you hit the 75$ cap you can't donate anymore money. This way there would be restricted monthly donations, so you could maximum ask people to donate $5 a month, Which means in about 1 year they would have paid 60$ and be very close to the 75$ cap. Singular donations of any amount can exist, but they would not be tied to subscription at all. This way the tier for subscriptions would be around 1 dollar for base, 3 dollars mid, and 5 dollars high tier. People who pay 1 dollar a month, would be prevented from donating after 6 years, since that would hit 72$, they can do non subscription donations, or fuck off basically.

21.50 is the price of some early access games on steam... which give me over 100 hours of play time. Can I jerk off to underboob and leg flashes in this game for 100 hours? I can't believe anyone is paying 21.50 more than once, and I can't believe this shit patreon site allows that sort of indulgence. Needs government regulation.

for $258, i can buy 4 triple A games. Like helldivers 2, baldursgate 3, Elden ring, Dragons Dogma 2, etc. And it's not a stretch to compare this to steam prices since lots of porn games are on steam now.
Very well said and I completely agree with your idea. I would also add that in no universe are the devs making these adult games putting anywhere near the resources or time that the AAA game companies are yet in some cases as you said these adult games are ranking in far more than early access games on steam or even the standard games that cost $50-$60.

Sadly though as I stated in my post that as long as their are morons, suckers and idiots out there willing to spend this kind of money on these often time very half-assed and often abandoned games, this crap will continue.
 

L0b0ts

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Everyone who is complaining about the game release date is really complimenting the game and are all butthurt until they get their Anna fix.
Government regulation, ha ha, you bunch of socialists, banning games on F95 that take too long to develop had me in stitches, ROFL.
The whole point of patreon is to support developers, nobody is twisting your arm to support developers on patreon.
I will support this game when it starts getting hardcore action not Anna with the husband but Anna getting with everybody else, then it's an epic adult game.
I am kind of confused about the dominant path, the dominant path should be Anna using her beauty/sexuality/skills to get what she wants that would really be cool with her boss, where she turns the tables on him and has full control and enjoys it, like he made her partner, she should have manipulated him to make her partner, that would have been next level.
I wish all the best to the developer and I don't want him to stress out about developing a game, adult game development should be a fun process.
 

Rockpaper345

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Everyone who is complaining about the game release date is really complimenting the game and are all butthurt until they get their Anna fix.
Government regulation, ha ha, you bunch of socialists, banning games on F95 that take too long to develop had me in stitches, ROFL.
The whole point of patreon is to support developers, nobody is twisting your arm to support developers on patreon.
I will support this game when it starts getting hardcore action not Anna with the husband but Anna getting with everybody else, then it's an epic adult game.
I am kind of confused about the dominant path, the dominant path should be Anna using her beauty/sexuality/skills to get what she wants that would really be cool with her boss, where she turns the tables on him and has full control and enjoys it, like he made her partner, she should have manipulated him to make her partner, that would have been next level.
I wish all the best to the developer and I don't want him to stress out about developing a game, adult game development should be a fun process.
What a weird way to twist and retell a narrative.

People going over the top with insults re wrong but u re just the flip side of that action

Delay good
3 weeks of trolling with People good
Over promising and under delivering good

Blud if the dev did a RKO on u, killed ur dog u will still find it good.

No game development is not fucking fun. Go ask any dev from a gaming industry or a programmer. Going to gym is not fun. Eating healthy is not fun. Studying for exam is not fun. And keeping ur promises is also not fun.

God I am not mad at palmer. He is a okay dev compared to others.

But people like u who twist narratives like this make me a little shocked.
 
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Jason5089

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If he made it so long without pornographic content , What if there is pornographic content?
 
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ItsNotUs

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Everyone who is complaining about the game release date is really complimenting the game and are all butthurt until they get their Anna fix.
Government regulation, ha ha, you bunch of socialists, banning games on F95 that take too long to develop had me in stitches, ROFL.
The whole point of patreon is to support developers, nobody is twisting your arm to support developers on patreon.
I will support this game when it starts getting hardcore action not Anna with the husband but Anna getting with everybody else, then it's an epic adult game.
I am kind of confused about the dominant path, the dominant path should be Anna using her beauty/sexuality/skills to get what she wants that would really be cool with her boss, where she turns the tables on him and has full control and enjoys it, like he made her partner, she should have manipulated him to make her partner, that would have been next level.
I wish all the best to the developer and I don't want him to stress out about developing a game, adult game development should be a fun process.
Do you understand what the real problem is?
And why does it take so much time to develop?

Mr. Palmer said that he already has a finished script! Individual branches will be developed as events progress, but the main part has already been written!
He sends the script to the artist and he, under his guidance, renders the pictures.
What the hell is stopping him at this moment (if you have a ready-made script) from writing a script (coding) for a future update and then, when you receive a pack of pictures, inserting them there with minor corrections? Mr. Palmer is waiting for the last moment when he gets all the pictures? Then he begins to write a script based on them and edits everything as he goes?
I don’t know - it seems like some kind of insanity!
When you look at the calendar of those devs who do the report, it clearly shows that the most expensive part is rendering, then processing in parallel is writing a script.
Someone who doesn’t have a plot begins a new update by writing down the events that will affect this update.

Mr. Palmer’s family comes first and that’s commendable, i can’t argue with that and the fact that he spends weekends with them is only a big plus for him as a person, but not as a developer!
- No need to specify the time frame for the update release - it will come out when it's ready - at least it's honest!
- And stop socralize Anna's nudity and sex in the game - then we won't have to wait for years to see her V!
Everything is very simple!
But Mr. Palmer, like many devs, wants to do something unique while gaining negativity because of absence things like nudity, etc. and all this together brings only disappointment!
 
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L0b0ts

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Do you understand what the real problem is?
And why does it take so much time to develop?

Mr. Palmer said that he already has a finished script! Individual branches will be developed as events progress, but the main part has already been written!
He sends the script to the artist and he, under his guidance, renders the pictures.
What the hell is stopping him at this moment (if you have a ready-made script) from writing a script (coding) for a future update and then, when you receive a pack of pictures, inserting them there with minor corrections? Mr. Palmer is waiting for the last moment when he gets all the pictures? Then he begins to write a script based on them and edits everything as he goes?
I don’t know - it seems like some kind of insanity!
When you look at the calendar of those devs who do the report, it clearly shows that the most expensive part is rendering, then processing in parallel is writing a script.
Someone who doesn’t have a plot begins a new update by writing down the events that will affect this update.

Mr. Palmer’s family comes first and that’s commendable, i can’t argue with that and the fact that he spends weekends with them is only a big plus for him as a person, but not as a developer!
- No need to specify the time frame for the update release - it will come out when it's ready - at least it's honest!
- And stop socralize Anna's nudity and sex in the game - then we won't have to wait for years to see her V!
Everything is very simple!
But Mr. Palmer, like many devs, wants to do something unique while gaining negativity because of absence things like nudity, etc. and all this together brings only disappointment!
Nudity and some hardcore action is a sure thing it's not a matter of if but when. Yeah, really like all your Anna artwork, the last one with Anna's pants lowered was so awesome, the highlight of my adult gaming week. I had some pictures posted online of a a French sexy wife who wears lowered pants around the house, and sexy bikinis at the beach, so I went to look them up and they had been removed, probably copyright issues, don't know why her website hasn't been up in years. I will try to find them and if I do I will post some here.
 
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sonne1999

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Boy it is getting very agitated in here not everybody of course. People like the game people don't like the game. People think the dev is at it some people don't. Of course we are all disappointed that the update hasn't arrived yet. Even if it is a great update [ if Chris is in it then not a great update ] people will still complain it's just the way things are. Been a lot of posts since I last posted enjoyed reading them all. Of course not forgetting the perverted mind of ItsNotUs. In the end it's just a game nothing more nothing less. Of course we all want to see Anna finally get laid but I'm guessing we are going to have a long wait. Oh well the sun is shining I'm away out for a walk.
 
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eddje

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Mr. Palmer.. just take your time.. people how are complaining certainly haven't done/accomplished anything in their life. besides some posts, of course..

For those not happy with development, there are thousands of alternative material for your 7 seconds of enjoyment.
 

DarthSpitz717

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Do you understand what the real problem is?
And why does it take so much time to develop?

Mr. Palmer said that he already has a finished script! Individual branches will be developed as events progress, but the main part has already been written!
He sends the script to the artist and he, under his guidance, renders the pictures.
What the hell is stopping him at this moment (if you have a ready-made script) from writing a script (coding) for a future update and then, when you receive a pack of pictures, inserting them there with minor corrections? Mr. Palmer is waiting for the last moment when he gets all the pictures? Then he begins to write a script based on them and edits everything as he goes?
I don’t know - it seems like some kind of insanity!
When you look at the calendar of those devs who do the report, it clearly shows that the most expensive part is rendering, then processing in parallel is writing a script.
Someone who doesn’t have a plot begins a new update by writing down the events that will affect this update.

Mr. Palmer’s family comes first and that’s commendable, i can’t argue with that and the fact that he spends weekends with them is only a big plus for him as a person, but not as a developer!
- No need to specify the time frame for the update release - it will come out when it's ready - at least it's honest!
- And stop socralize Anna's nudity and sex in the game - then we won't have to wait for years to see her V!
Everything is very simple!
But Mr. Palmer, like many devs, wants to do something unique while gaining negativity because of absence things like nudity, etc. and all this together brings only disappointment!
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..... We also have to keep in mind that this isn't really a revenue venture but a pet project first. So its a work of passion--can even call it art
 

ItsNotUs

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..... We also have to keep in mind that this isn't really a revenue venture but a pet project first. So its a work of passion--can even call it art
:ROFLMAO:
If that were the case, he would release the game for free! But it’s not, so you can draw your own conclusion!
 

Sharpx23

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His Patreon options for the game are 4.50, 10, and 21.50. The fact that he listed these values as subscription fees blows my mind, because they are insanely high for a subscription fee - it doesn't matter that people can choose to do it or not. Nobody should be paying 21.50 as a subscription more than three times for a PC game. No PC game is worth more than $75 maybe a few exceptions will hit $100 or like SIMS 4 with it's 1 million DLCs.

What should have been policy on Patreon is you select the genre of your Patreon. If you select game, you now have a subscription fee limit, maximum $5. This means you can subscribe to a game for 1 year + 3 months at $5 and hit 75$. Or you can subscribe to the game for 6 years at $1.

Patreon could have included custom subscription option. Where the user inputs how much they want to donate monthly, for those billionaires who want to donate 21.50 a month for 6 years.

The way Patreon is doing it, is wrong, morally wrong. And the fact that Palmer doubled down on it with insane subscription fees, is wrong, morally wrong. I understand people can choose to opt out, but if that's the case they can choose donate 10,000$ too, so why shouldn't a donate button cover all of this choosing?

Why a subscription fee? You know why? Because people forget they subscribed to shit, and just end up sending 21.50 a month for a few months before they realize to shut it off, or sometimes they realize right away but they already sent the 21.50 for the next month despite not wanting too. If 100 people failed to cancel their subscription in time, that's 100 x 21.50.

This would only be helped if Patreon had something like an account draw limit. So I can set my limit to 75$, and then let the subscription run until it drains 75$, and it automatically shuts off after. Does patreon have this feature? If not then it's a scam site, Patreon wants to make as much money off subscriptions as possible, and people who use it love that.

EDIT: a glance at other patreon like AWAM and ORS, their first tiers are in 2-3 dollar range. their second tier is in 5-8 dollar range. And their last tier is in 15-18 dollar range. Palmer doubles his charge for first tier. Asks for $2 more on second, and up to $5+ more on last. lol But then he says "if you don't like update times i encourage you to subscribe once a month on release month"... yeah easy to pretend you care when you know 90% of people won't do that based on the pay model and stats. If there was a donate button he would probably make zero money. People donate once and then forget about you.

P.S And I doubt AWAM and ORS are prime examples of not being greedy lol but even they have lower subscription rates.

EDIT 2: Steps of debauchery, 2, 8.50 and 14.50. All games seems to have this range on patreon except our beloved Palmer. Steps of Debauchery is also a steam game. Sells for 19.49 on steam. So less than a 1 month subscription to Palmer.

And if we take a game like A life worth living, 2, 4.50, 7.50. His second tier is Palmers first tier. And all these games feel $2 is enough for a first tier. Palmer doesn't.
 
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uniformless

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His Patreon options for the game are 4.50, 10, and 21.50. The fact that he listed these values as subscription fees blows my mind, because they are insanely high for a subscription fee - it doesn't matter that people can choose to do it or not. Nobody should be paying 21.50 as a subscription more than three times for a PC game. No PC game is worth more than $75 maybe a few exceptions will hit $100 or like SIMS 4 with it's 1 million DLCs.

What should have been policy on Patreon is you select the genre of your Patreon. If you select game, you now have a subscription fee limit, maximum $5. This means you can subscribe to a game for 1 year + 3 months at $5 and hit 75$. Or you can subscribe to the game for 6 years at $1.

Patreon could have included custom subscription option. Where the user inputs how much they want to donate monthly, for those billionaires who want to donate 21.50 a month for 6 years.

The way Patreon is doing it, is wrong, morally wrong. And the fact that Palmer doubled down on it with insane subscription fees, is wrong, morally wrong. I understand people can choose to opt out, but if that's the case they can choose donate 10,000$ too, so why shouldn't a donate button cover all of this choosing?

Why a subscription fee? You know why? Because people forget they subscribed to shit, and just end up sending 21.50 a month for a few months before they realize to shut it off, or sometimes they realize right away but they already sent the 21.50 for the next month despite not wanting too. If 100 people failed to cancel their subscription in time, that's 100 x 21.50.

This would only be helped if Patreon had something like an account draw limit. So I can set my limit to 75$, and then let the subscription run until it drains 75$, and it automatically shuts off after. Does patreon have this feature? If not then it's a scam site, Patreon wants to make as much money off subscriptions as possible, and people who use it love that.

EDIT: a glance at other patreon like AWAM and ORS, their first tiers are in 2-3 dollar range. their second tier is in 5-8 dollar range. And their last tier is in 15-18 dollar range. Palmer doubles his charge for first tier. Asks for $2 more on second, and up to $5+ more on last. lol But then he says "if you don't like update times i encourage you to subscribe once a month on release month"... yeah easy to pretend you care when you know 90% of people won't do that based on the pay model and stats. If there was a donate button he would probably make zero money. People donate once and then forget about you.

P.S And I doubt AWAM and ORS are prime examples of not being greedy lol but even they have lower subscription rates.

EDIT 2: Steps of debauchery, 2, 8.50 and 14.50. All games seems to have this range on patreon except our beloved Palmer. Steps of Debauchery is also a steam game. Sells for 19.49 on steam. So less than a 1 month subscription to Palmer.

And if we take a game like A life worth living, 2, 4.50, 7.50. His second tier is Palmers first tier. And all these games feel $2 is enough for a first tier. Palmer doesn't.
All your argumentation is irrelevant because you forgot the most important one : you don't have to pay to play the game (and I'm not talking about piracy). The subs are only there to give a early access before the public release. Who are you exactly to decide "it doesn't matter that people can choose to do it or not" when you speak about subscription fees?
 
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