VN Ren'Py A Perfect Marriage [v0.7.4c] [Mr Palmer]

[nexer]

So, what did Guszti242 say? That he's in a very healthy relationship, that his girlfriend doesn't need anything else, that he and he alone rocks her world? Question? Were you her first?
If the sample is correct, randomness is very important, we will have X% of sluts from birth. But you should know that, there are cloistered nuns but also whores and there are many sluts among the whores.
The fact that you live a pure love story doesn't mean that the other world doesn't exist.

 

[Couto25]

The difference between porn logic and erotic is the reason behind sex...like if you see wife cheating on porn is like she open the door for pizza delivery guy and say ohh she doesn't have money, maybe she can provide some service etc. (illogical reason basically just to do sex). So you know even the reason behind sex doesn't matter. And erotic / adult sex movie scene etc are based on real life reasons like wife is attracted to someone else or the situation is created where she has to submit.

Now the story is softcore where you don't have to put efforts to create realistic scenarios like say anything like get on the table and the MC gets excited and wet after hearing this dialogue and start sex. Now MP did spent first 2 chapters to create base story like erotic /adult movie with submissive plot/romantic plot/attraction plot etc.

Now coming back to scenes ...porn is the only thing where scenes are explicit and porn actress show her different skills ..just an example let's say BJ ...Porn actor can make a whole video based on BJ in different scenarios group BJ, public BJ etc....thats porn logic. One can literally search just Handjobs and they can find various scenarios and situation where the scene starts with porn logic and the scene limit itself to a particular task only and that's HJ....without going further no matter the place ....That's what LP is doing now.

Realistic or erotic or adult where the logic behind the scene are realistic where the wife go for cheating due to realistic scenarios...the scene doesn't end just on a particular act...Take any erotic /R rated movie ..and see where the wife goes to cheat or get attracted to her affair..and just give HJ and came back..it will not happen in any movie.

Here the logic behind the story is of erotic or adult movies or novel but the scene are based on porn logic.

LP and many VN created this theory of corruption based on what people refer as low to high corruption...like naked then groping then HJ then BJ then licking then pussy touching then fingering then anal plug then sex then anal then group sex....something like this trend which identify act of corruption of MC as low to high corruption..this logic is porn logic or sex logic that identify what women are comfortable to do with others to fulfill others sexual need...the real life whores where they can satisfy 100customers per day just by giving HJ and BJ without having sex...and if someone wants sex they have to pay more. That's whorologic...rent a girl ...if someone wants to just grope them and can cum themselves, they'll ask for less money...if you want them to give HJ/BJ then they need a little more money..if you want sex, you need to pay more price....and so on...so these VN goes by this logic(whorologic ) when it comes to scenes and corruption. Try onlyfans, one will get better idea on this whorologic lol. How much one pay for nude pic upto sex scene lol... they'll get idea.

Real life scenario for scenes or physical involvement doesn't go by that logic..if any wife goes for cheating, she will not come back home without having sex...and in real life if some girl/wife physically give herself to any guy whether she loves him or attraction or sexual desire...she doesn't see these sexual act as increasing or corruption level..they want to satisfy their own needs. They want to fulfill their own desire whatever they miss from their own side whether they miss being loved or they miss being sexually satisfied etc. they will give themselves if other person can fulfill their own desire. It will never be like if a girl getting wet whole day she'll go and give HJ to others and get satisfied herself lol. Realism is when she's getting wet, she'll find a guy who will fulfill her sexual needs. A girl doesn't get wet to give HJ or BJ to others ...that's common sense.

 

[nexer]

The difference between porn logic and erotic is the reason behind sex...like if you see wife cheating on porn is like she open the door for pizza delivery guy and say ohh she doesn't have money, maybe she can provide some service etc. (illogical reason basically just to do sex). So you know even the reason behind sex doesn't matter. And erotic / adult sex movie scene etc are based on real life reasons like wife is attracted to someone else or the situation is created where she has to submit.

Now the story is softcore where you don't have to put efforts to create realistic scenarios like say anything like get on the table and the MC gets excited and wet after hearing this dialogue and start sex. Now MP did spent first 2 chapters to create base story like erotic /adult movie with submissive plot/romantic plot/attraction plot etc.

Now coming back to scenes ...porn is the only thing where scenes are explicit and porn actress show her different skills ..just an example let's say BJ ...Porn actor can make a whole video based on BJ in different scenarios group BJ, public BJ etc....thats porn logic. One can literally search just Handjobs and they can find various scenarios and situation where the scene starts with porn logic and the scene limit itself to a particular task only and that's HJ....without going further no matter the place ....That's what LP is doing now.

Realistic or erotic or adult where the logic behind the scene are realistic where the wife go for cheating due to realistic scenarios...the scene doesn't end just on a particular act...Take any erotic /R rated movie ..and see where the wife goes to cheat or get attracted to her affair..and just give HJ and came back..it will not happen in any movie.

Here the logic behind the story is of erotic or adult movies or novel but the scene are based on porn logic.

LP and many VN created this theory of corruption based on what people refer as low to high corruption...like naked then groping then HJ then BJ then licking then pussy touching then fingering then anal plug then sex then anal then group sex....something like this trend which identify act of corruption of MC as low to high corruption..this logic is porn logic or sex logic that identify what women are comfortable to do with others to fulfill others sexual need...the real life whores where they can satisfy 100customers per day just by giving HJ and BJ without having sex...and if someone wants sex they have to pay more. That's whorologic...rent a girl ...if someone wants to just grope them and can cum themselves, they'll ask for less money...if you want them to give HJ/BJ then they need a little more money..if you want sex, you need to pay more price....and so on...so these VN goes by this logic(whorologic ) when it comes to scenes and corruption. Try onlyfans, one will get better idea on this whorologic lol. How much one pay for nude pic upto sex scene lol... they'll get idea.

Real life scenario for scenes or physical involvement doesn't go by that logic..if any wife goes for cheating, she will not come back home without having sex...and in real life if some girl/wife physically give herself to any guy whether she loves him or attraction or sexual desire...she doesn't see these sexual act as increasing or corruption level..they want to satisfy their own needs. They want to fulfill their own desire whatever they miss from their own side whether they miss being loved or they miss being sexually satisfied etc. they will give themselves if other person can fulfill their own desire. It will never be like if a girl getting wet whole day she'll go and give HJ to others and get satisfied herself lol. Realism is when she's getting wet, she'll find a guy who will fulfill her sexual needs. A girl doesn't get wet to give HJ or BJ to others ...that's common sense.

A woman who wants to cheat on her husband will do it without hesitation, without feeling guilty, categorically, but, on the other hand, it is not true that a woman married for 20 years succumbs at the first touch, at the first strange dick she sees.
She's not even a teenager anymore, nor is this the first dick she's seen to explain her loss of control. A married woman who is not a slut and who will cheat follows a progression, except accidents, of course, too much drink, drugs ....
That's why I don't find the L&P approach unrealistic, just the multitude of routes running in parallel.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Only David can't be jealous of Anne and other guys and care about her. Because she hates it and immediately gets furious. Plus, she keeps saying that she grew up with older brothers, that all guys are the same and that she can handle them all. She's naive and sometimes acts like a stupid bimbo during the scene when the old fish surprised her while she was pumping milk from her breasts. I feel like she put that bra on as slowly as she could so that the old fish would see something there. And when she decided that was enough, she put the bra on. So that she wouldn't feel guilty and stupid, she yelled at him. And the worst thing is that we got this scene in all three routes, which is hopeless. I think that while drinking wine with Kendra, he will definitely brag to Kendra about the old fish before she tells her about it. And Kendra will ask Anne about it in detail. And then Kendra will encourage her to go further, I hope there will be a choice. The creator of this scene should remake it

wonder if she will tell Kendra she blew Chris.

 

[Couto25]

A woman who wants to cheat on her husband will do it without hesitation, without feeling guilty, categorically, but, on the other hand, it is not true that a woman married for 20 years succumbs at the first touch, at the first strange dick she sees.
She's not even a teenager anymore, nor is this the first dick she's seen to explain her loss of control. A married woman who is not a slut and who will cheat follows a progression, except accidents, of course, too much drink, drugs ....
That's why I don't find the L&P approach unrealistic, just the multitude of routes running in parallel.

Obviously a married woman will follow a progression..and that progression is getting to know each other or whether she's attracted to talk like dating or time spent with them and I can even get if some married woman has naughty side/horny side for sex, she'll look forward to be comfortable with each other naked at the most to get her physically excited. I m just leaving drugs/drinks aside.

Now this HJ/BJ progression is illogical for realistic scenarios. It's milking I will say..none of the married woman will go and give HJ and comeback if she's horny. Even if it happens by accident and let's say a guy take her hands to his dick..if she's attracted to that guy or if the situation is created for her to submit to the guy demand, she'll do sex...that's 100% guarantee. I mean comeon if a married woman is wet and wants some guy to fulfill her sexual needs.. she'll not go and play with his dick , give HJ, bj and comeback. How this act will fulfill her own desire? It'll not..Here and in AWAM first few parts..the interaction with various characters were made to create that "attraction" towards the guy...if not attraction, the situation has been created where the woman needs to submit whether it's some case or job in line or need of money in line or in case of AWAM to save Dylan from getting beaten up... something like that. They give alot of time and initial few years to create these background story with individual but when it comes to scenes..then they go with whorologic.

 

[Couto25]

wonder if she will tell Kendra she blew Chris.

A possibility because she'll be drunk..and that might give opportunity for kendra to make Ana corrupt..Kendra is waiting for this opportunity to get a hint that Ana can give in to her sexual desire. That's all she needs before throwing Marvin and Jake towards her to collect evidence....and tbh Ana will be proud telling that BJ with Chris to kendra because Kendra always taunted her that she cannot flirt with others and all.

Here we might think that Ana is stupid..but from Ana POV, kendra is the only woman on this VN with whom she can talk to about all these girl issues. Rest she's surrounded by men.

 

[nexer]

Obviously a married woman will follow a progression..and that progression is getting to know each other or whether she's attracted to talk like dating or time spent with them and I can even get if some married woman has naughty side/horny side for sex, she'll look forward to be comfortable with each other naked at the most to get her physically excited. I m just leaving drugs/drinks aside.

Now this HJ/BJ progression is illogical for realistic scenarios. It's milking I will say..none of the married woman will go and give HJ and comeback if she's horny. Even if it happens by accident and let's say a guy take her hands to his dick..if she's attracted to that guy or if the situation is created for her to submit to the guy demand, she'll do sex...that's 100% guarantee. I mean comeon if a married woman is wet and wants some guy to fulfill her sexual needs.. she'll not go and play with his dick , give HJ, bj and comeback. How this act will fulfill her own desire? It'll not..Here and in AWAM first few parts..the interaction with various characters were made to create that "attraction" towards the guy...if not attraction, the situation has been created where the woman needs to submit whether it's some case or job in line or need of money in line or in case of AWAM to save Dylan from getting beaten up... something like that. They give alot of time and initial few years to create these background story with individual but when it comes to scenes..then they go with whorologic.

Yes, agreed, with a dick in hand hardly guaranteed that only stays at an HJ, but there should be at least one suitable location... I mean, a hotel room, ... or at least the two in a car. L&P has avoided this so far.
What is fairly certain is that before the cheating there can be make out, dry hump ... In one way or another a woman has to put her thoughts in order, to level the playing field in order to cheat, ... I mean the one who hasn't done it before and is not a slut. ... because there has to be an explanation for "why she hasn't done it in the last 20 y marriages".
Sophia was pretty close on 2 occasions, with Logan/Tyler and with Vicky. In both cases though, the presence of both Ellie and Vicky are serious reasons for not moving forward.
What I found unlikely is how Aiden's gang behaved in their hideout.

 

[Couto25]

Yes, agreed, with a dick in hand hardly guaranteed that only stays at an HJ, but there should be at least one suitable location... I mean, a hotel room, ... or at least the two in a car. L&P has avoided this so far.
What is fairly certain is that before the cheating there can be make out, dry hump ... In one way or another a woman has to put her thoughts in order, to level the playing field in order to cheat, ... I mean the one who hasn't done it before and is not a slut. ... because there has to be an explanation for "why she hasn't done it in the last 20 y marriages".
Sophia was pretty close on 2 occasions, with Logan/Tyler and with Vicky. In both cases though, the presence of both Ellie and Vicky are serious reasons for not moving forward.
What I found unlikely is how Aiden's gang behaved in their hideout.

He had alot of alone situation..I mean both of them had..to take few examples in APM ...Ana saw Chris nude before and bring him towel..then they were alone in bathroom yea Ana mom was about to arrive but she didn't until the handjob scene ended. Same way in AWAM, sam and Dylan both had seen Sophia nude whether modeling or in bathtub etc...after that they did got alone opportunity too. Like sam room, Sam mom was not there the second time where Sophia get nude herself and cuddled in bed with Sam giving him HJ, same with Dylan when they went out on a date, they were alone in car. But somehow they wanted to develop scenes with whorologic...when sophia was at gym, even the guy's gf wants to do threesome then why to stop or limit upto HJ??. We'll see, here Ana will get opportunity to be alone with Marvin, Jake, grant etc..as he invited her to dinner..but if the developer doesn't want to show sex, he'll fast forward the scene when she's alone with them and create a situation when someone is there lol so that the scene will be limited to BJ. Like what happened with rob lol...David called same way. Ana could have put her mobile on silent and David would not have known where Ana is..And obviously David is not doubting on Rob so he would have not checked on Rob house...but as I said scene is developed as per whorologic

 

[harrypotter456]

i like any movie happen in Cruise ship

my childhood tv show was Mexican tv show the man meet his love over ship and she was rich family and he want revenge to her family but he fall love to there doughtier so he fight over love
the funy thing women look like anna too
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the story in love on ship amazing me making movie

why there is no game happen all in ship



ross can be anna
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her mom / anna dad
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kathy bate play kind person but she stand with ross to cheat her bf / kendra
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ross bf / david
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jake / marvin
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Jake —> Marvin hahaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[DarthSpitz717]

A woman who wants to cheat on her husband will do it without hesitation, without feeling guilty, categorically, but, on the other hand, it is not true that a woman married for 20 years succumbs at the first touch, at the first strange dick she sees.
She's not even a teenager anymore, nor is this the first dick she's seen to explain her loss of control. A married woman who is not a slut and who will cheat follows a progression, except accidents, of course, too much drink, drugs ....
That's why I don't find the L&P approach unrealistic, just the multitude of routes running in parallel.

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A woman who wants to cheat on her husband will do it without hesitation, More like a guy who wants to cheat will do it without hesitation-- except if the guy first worries about getting caught... without feeling guilty, categorically, but, on the other hand, it is not true that a woman married for 20 years succumbs at the first touch, at the first strange dick she sees. Women are complicated things at times. Actually, going back to your first sentence, you are kind of right, but the wife of 20 years will have cheated in her mind first.
She's not even a teenager anymore, nor is this the first dick she's seen to explain her loss of control. EXACTLY, she knows what it is and what she wants... A married woman who is not a slut and who will cheat follows a progression, except accidents, of course, too much drink, drugs .... I'd like to think that progression is mostly talking herself into it and that might take time
That's why I don't find the L&P approach unrealistic, just the multitude of routes running in parallel. What is the more powerful reason for a woman to NOT CHEAT on her husband? The simple fact of being a married woman and society says that is something you shouldn't do, or the love and commitment to her partner? Where does Anna fit? Is/was she deeply in love with David that kept/keeps her faithful?

In the real world, a wife who has been cheated on, she has two choices; she can forgive eventually, or she can move on in some way... all the evidence points to David cheating {innocent men have been hanged for crimes they haven't committed}. There is another aspect to consider. If David did cheat and Anna caught David in the act, what would Anna most likely do?

Obviously a married woman will follow a progression..and that progression is getting to know each other or whether she's attracted to talk like dating or time spent with them and I can even get if some married woman has naughty side/horny side for sex, she'll look forward to be comfortable with each other naked at the most to get her physically excited. I m just leaving drugs/drinks aside.

Have to agree there... the first act of cheating will first be in her mind

Now this HJ/BJ progression is illogical for realistic scenarios. It's milking I will say..none of the married woman will go and give HJ and comeback if she's horny. Even if it happens by accident and let's say a guy take her hands to his dick..if she's attracted to that guy or if the situation is created for her to submit to the guy demand, she'll do sex...that's 100% guarantee. I mean comeon if a married woman is wet and wants some guy to fulfill her sexual needs.. she'll not go and play with his dick , give HJ, bj and comeback. How this act will fulfill her own desire? It'll not..Here and in AWAM first few parts..the interaction with various characters were made to create that "attraction" towards the guy...if not attraction, the situation has been created where the woman needs to submit whether it's some case or job in line or need of money in line or in case of AWAM to save Dylan from getting beaten up... something like that. They give alot of time and initial few years to create these background story with individual but when it comes to scenes..then they go with whorologic.

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Now this HJ/BJ progression is illogical for realistic scenarios. It's milking I will say..none of the married woman will go and give HJ and comeback if she's horny. The problem is time, place and opportunity where Anna could have been railed rather than engage in foreplay. Chris never had enough alone time at any interaction with Anna to do the deed unless... Anna called in sick the morning of the shower scene to be with Chris--and call mother not to come. Anna could have taken a chance of getting caught in the garage. Even if it happens by accident and let's say a guy take her hands to his dick..if she's attracted to that guy or if the situation is created for her to submit to the guy demand, she'll do sex...that's 100% guarantee. I mean comeon if a married woman is wet and wants some guy to fulfill her sexual needs.. she'll not go and play with his dick , give HJ, bj and comeback. How this act will fulfill her own desire? You are hitting hard on the realism side of the argument. All things being equal, yes that is true. Where realism fails AMP is the interactions of sexual acts... it's all one sided. Anna gives and Chris gets. What happens between couples is giving and getting. What would have happened during pizza night had Chris started kissing and touching Anna (forget David coming home for a moment)? Maybe... maybe Anna would have put a stop to it, but not after firmly planting in Anna's mind that being with Chris at some point would be a real thing.
It'll not..Here and in AWAM first few parts..the interaction with various characters were made to create that "attraction" towards the guy...if not attraction, the situation has been created where the woman needs to submit whether it's some case or job in line or need of money in line or in case of AWAM to save Dylan from getting beaten up... something like that. They give alot of time and initial few years to create these background story with individual but when it comes to scenes..then they go with whorologic. AWAM... I'll spare my venom about that VN for L&P's page. Part one of AWAM should have laid all the foundations for part 2 where Sophia could progress with the plot lines... and the writing strategies L&P employes is rather simplistic

 

[nexer]

He had alot of alone situation..I mean both of them had..to take few examples in APM ...Ana saw Chris nude before and bring him towel..then they were alone in bathroom yea Ana mom was about to arrive but she didn't until the handjob scene ended. Same way in AWAM, sam and Dylan both had seen Sophia nude whether modeling or in bathtub etc...after that they did got alone opportunity too. Like sam room, Sam mom was not there the second time where Sophia get nude herself and cuddled in bed with Sam giving him HJ, same with Dylan when they went out on a date, they were alone in car. But somehow they wanted to develop scenes with whorologic...when sophia was at gym, even the guy's gf wants to do threesome then why to stop or limit upto HJ??. We'll see, here Ana will get opportunity to be alone with Marvin, Jake, grant etc..as he invited her to dinner..but if the developer doesn't want to show sex, he'll fast forward the scene when she's alone with them and create a situation when someone is there lol so that the scene will be limited to BJ. Like what happened with rob lol...David called same way. Ana could have put her mobile on silent and David would not have known where Ana is..And obviously David is not doubting on Rob so he would have not checked on Rob house...but as I said scene is developed as per whorologic

We could look at it from another angle: is Anna dead set on cheating? And what does "cheating" mean to her? or in the worst case, does she care if she cheats or not?
Because if she hasn't made up her mind ... she can still hang on ... even if one or the other bastard warms her up quite a bit

 

[nexer]

What is the more powerful reason for a woman to NOT CHEAT on her husband? The simple fact of being a married woman and society says that is something you shouldn't do, or the love and commitment to her partner? Where does Anna fit? Is/was she deeply in love with David that kept/keeps her faithful?

In the real world, a wife who has been cheated on, she has two choices; she can forgive eventually, or she can move on in some way... all the evidence points to David cheating {innocent men have been hanged for crimes they haven't committed}. There is another aspect to consider. If David did cheat and Anna caught David in the act, what would Anna most likely do?

No, what society says, what family says, what friends say... won't stop her. There has to be an inner barrier. Flirting, jokes about... if repeated... pave the way, level the rough edges, the rough edges that should stop her ... . If she's not a slut, which you should notice from a young age, at least a few signs ... a keen eye should notice the transformation ... except that not everyone is attentive or has the ability to understand the importance of every detail. For example, David should at least notice the change in Anna's work outfit.

No, Anna was never deadly in love with David. Pragmatic, looking for social status: married, child ... checked, checked.
If she had loved him and cared about her marriage, she would have cleared up every detail of David's alleged affair. But no, she uses the alleged affair for... emancipation

 

[Couto25]

We could look at it from another angle: is Anna dead set on cheating? And what does "cheating" mean to her? or in the worst case, does she care if she cheats or not?
Because if she hasn't made up her mind ... she can still hang on ... even if one or the other bastard warms her up quite a bit

We are not concerned with "cheating" ..we are mostly concerned with what Ana wants in her life? And does her partner satisfy her needs? I will only talk about corrupt side options that was given to us. Now as per those options David consistently doubt her even when he himself hide about Alexia to Ana when he went for her. He didn't told anything about his business. Neither he able to satisfy her sexually and making his own demands so he doesn't understand Ana needs obviously sex wise too. And couldn't provide evidence that he didn't cheated.

Now Ana doesn't want this kind of partner for herself in her life who's liar, couldn't support their daughter and consistently doubt her intentions on work whenever she meet Jake. May be he's right but he's not supportive. And that create communication gap. He doesn't understand Ana sexual needs and have his own demands that she hated. And he knows that. Now she look herself as an individual without partner, she earn enough to take care of herself and for sophia support she might need extra money that she'll try to get from Grant. Her sexual needs, her doc suggested to take care of it herself. And go with flow. So obviously she'll look for someone who can keep secrets, Chris provide that assurance that he'll not tell David, so she is not afraid of it. And everyone knows she's married and if they'll approach, they know not to tell her husband. I mean a stupid will approach having an intention of sex and tell her that they will tell her husband....so it's common sense that they'll not approach with intentions to tell her hubby. And she doesn't know but she also assume that whatever she is telling kendra, it will be between them. Because kendra also told her side of story that men are like that. So now Ana think of herself as an individual seperated from David and trying to live alone. She's looking for a stable life with daughter which she already talk with Chris too to convince David to let her have Sophia and about sexual needs, she can do it with whoever she wants...with people around her convincing her that David went for cheating, she is getting more convinced that she doesn't want to live with that kind of partner. And she can live her life alone. So sex for her is not the point to judge that she cheated on David and her marriage is at stake.. because Ana as of now is preparing herself on a path to live her life alone..she doesn't want David to be her husband so it's the last thing that she care about while doing sex with anyone. Like when one partner already made their mind to live seperately and working that way to live alone, they don't care that having sex with others will ruin their marriage. They do sex just because they have sexual needs/desire. It's their own life. On corrupt path Ana is not working to save marriage...on corrupt path Ana want divorce. So whatever she does in her pvt life is her own choice..it's not made to save marriage or what David will think of her. The choices she made now is based on how to live her life alone with happiness. She needs money, daughter custody, and sexual needs.....David pissing her off and doubting her is additional bonus for her to live separate and go find her happiness with someone else .David is not in her list. When a girl /woman is not committed to some other guy, sex is an act to satisfy individual needs and not taken as "cheating". Ana told David either give proof or she want seperated. So if there's no proof, David already knows the result as divorce,..so whatever Ana do with others is her life and not considered as cheating. It's just a document that needs to be signed , mentally they are already seperated. And Ana is not committed to David anymore if he doesn't have proof. And the more people giving Ana proof that David cheated on her, the more she's getting convinced to live alone seperately.

The irony is if she gets evidence from unknown like Alexia or her boyfriend..it kept her on doubt and that's why she asked David to get proof of his innocence....Now here David's own friends convincing her that David cheated on her..So David made fake friends whether it's rob or Chris or Leonard. So Ana is already convinced on corrupt route that David cheated. In real life friends usually defend their friends even if he cheated..here it's opposite.

 

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We are not concerned with "cheating" ..we are mostly concerned with what Ana wants in her life? And does her partner satisfy her needs? I will only talk about corrupt side options that was given to us. Now as per those options David consistently doubt her even when he himself hide about Alexia to Ana when he went for her. He didn't told anything about his business. Neither he able to satisfy her sexually and making his own demands so he doesn't understand Ana needs obviously sex wise too. And couldn't provide evidence that he didn't cheated.

Now Ana doesn't want this kind of partner for herself in her life who's liar, couldn't support their daughter and consistently doubt her intentions on work whenever she meet Jake. May be he's right but he's not supportive. And that create communication gap. He doesn't understand Ana sexual needs and have his own demands that she hated. And he knows that. Now she look herself as an individual without partner, she earn enough to take care of herself and for sophia support she might need extra money that she'll try to get from Grant. Her sexual needs, her doc suggested to take care of it herself. And go with flow. So obviously she'll look for someone who can keep secrets, Chris provide that assurance that he'll not tell David, so she is not afraid of it. And everyone knows she's married and if they'll approach, they know not to tell her husband. I mean a stupid will approach having an intention of sex and tell her that they will tell her husband....so it's common sense that they'll not approach with intentions to tell her hubby. And she doesn't know but she also assume that whatever she is telling kendra, it will be between them. Because kendra also told her side of story that men are like that. So now Ana think of herself as an individual seperated from David and trying to live alone. She's looking for a stable life with daughter which she already talk with Chris too to convince David to let her have Sophia and about sexual needs, she can do it with whoever she wants...with people around her convincing her that David went for cheating, she is getting more convinced that she doesn't want to live with that kind of partner. And she can live her life alone. So sex for her is not the point to judge that she cheated on David and her marriage is at stake.. because Ana as of now is preparing herself on a path to live her life alone..she doesn't want David to be her husband so it's the last thing that she care about while doing sex with anyone. Like when one partner already made their mind to live seperately and working that way to live alone, they don't care that having sex with others will ruin their marriage. They do sex just because they have sexual needs/desire. It's their own life. On corrupt path Ana is not working to save marriage...on corrupt path Ana want divorce. So whatever she does in her pvt life is her own choice..it's not made to save marriage or what David will think of her. The choices she made now is based on how to live her life alone with happiness. She needs money, daughter custody, and sexual needs.....David pissing her off and doubting her is additional bonus for her to live separate and go find her happiness with someone else .David is not in her list. When a girl /woman is not committed to some other guy, sex is an act to satisfy individual needs and not taken as "cheating". Ana told David either give proof or she want seperated. So if there's no proof, David already knows the result as divorce,..so whatever Ana do with others is her life and not considered as cheating. It's just a document that needs to be signed , mentally they are already seperated. And Ana is not committed to David anymore if he doesn't have proof. And the more people giving Ana proof that David cheated on her, the more she's getting convinced to live alone seperately.

The irony is if she gets evidence from unknown like Alexia or her boyfriend..it kept her on doubt and that's why she asked David to get proof of his innocence....Now here David's own friends convincing her that David cheated on her..So David made fake friends whether it's rob or Chris or Leonard. So Ana is already convinced on corrupt route that David cheated. In real life friends usually defend their friends even if he cheated..here it's opposite.

A hormonal imbalance, only for her there's no cure, added to a love that never went too deep. It's a dead end for David.
Even if he can prove it, the marriage is already damaged. How can David prove this? Anna has already made her decision.
After your post, I think the only way to keep something dirty running would be for Anna to find out the truth about David, otherwise we're going to see a fuckfest with David divorced or in the background
But what would it mean for David to disappear from the picture? Does Anna really see herself raising Sophia alone? Many of the lowlife around her want to fuck her, nothing more. And Kendra's the one who's setting her up to go down.

On the other hand, I know sons of small/medium business trying to survive. The "dreamier" sons are driven out, and the sons who get involved become ruthless. It's their money, it's their future. David is described as a soft guy and that doesn't fit

One question, what will happen if Penguin finds out that Anna is sleeping with ... Jack, for example

 

[Couto25]

A hormonal imbalance, only for her there's no cure, added to a love that never went too deep. It's a dead end for David.
Even if he can prove it, the marriage is already damaged. How can David prove this? Anna has already made her decision.
After your post, I think the only way to keep something dirty running would be for Anna to find out the truth about David, otherwise we're going to see a fuckfest with David divorced or in the background
But what would it mean for David to disappear from the picture? Does Anna really see herself raising Sophia alone? Many of the lowlife around her want to fuck her, nothing more. And Kendra's the one who's setting her up to go down.

On the other hand, I know sons of small/medium business trying to survive. The "dreamier" sons are driven out, and the sons who get involved become ruthless. It's their money, it's their future. David is described as a soft guy and that doesn't fit

Unfortunately in real world until the divorce paper is signed , the couple remained married ....even if they are living separately. So David events and finding proof of his innocence are important for those who are playing to save marriage. Well I am not the one who is playing that path lol.

For corrupt path, I just wanna enjoy fuckfest provided situation is good . Ana is separated from David already mentally so she can fuck whoever she want..without getting tagline of being cheated...but yea until she signed papers it will be known as cheating...she is working to live alone anyways, so signing is just a formality for her...and the more david fight with her, it will motivate her to fuck someone else and keep her reminding that she is married to a wrong guy in corrupt path...so let it be lol.

If the story would have been created like everything between Ana/David is fine and Ana get attracted to someone else, then Ana should be called as whore or bitch...But here it's different...Like in AWAM, if you keep sex aside , everything is fine with Sophia and her husband...and Sophia is still looking for someone else there sophia is a whore/bitch or whatever you can say...Here the husband is not understanding in corrupt path and a liar too..the wife doesnt want to live with him and want divorce...so if she fuck someone as a single woman what's bitch or whore about that ..yea she is not looking forward to be in long term relationship or didnt find anyone beside rob as of now like a person to date...so she can fuck anyone she wants to fulfill her needs.

 

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Unfortunately in real world until the divorce paper is signed , the couple remained married ....even if they are living separately. So David events and finding proof of his innocence are important for those who are playing to save marriage. Well I am not the one who is playing that path lol.

For corrupt path, I just wanna enjoy fuckfest provided situation is good . Ana is separated from David already mentally so she can fuck whoever she want..without getting tagline of being cheated...but yea until she signed papers it will be known as cheating...she is working to live alone anyways, so signing is just a formality for her...and the more david fight with her, it will motivate her to fuck someone else and keep her reminding that she is married to a wrong guy in corrupt path...so let it be lol.

One question, what will happen if Penguin finds out that Anna is sleeping with ... Jack, for example. I don't see him as the type to share her with underlings

 

[Couto25]

One question, what will happen if Penguin finds out that Anna is sleeping with ... Jack, for example. I don't see him as the type to share her with underlings

Penguin / Hank doesnt care who fuck Ana lol..He wants her as his bitch. And he doesnt even care if he gets fired from the company for that.

 

[Sadowdark]

One question, what will happen if Penguin finds out that Anna is sleeping with ... Jack, for example. I don't see him as the type to share her with underlings

First of all, what happens when the others find out that everyone is fucking Anna? Everyone will probably be at each other's throats and there will be a bloodbath because everyone will want to fuck Anna. Maybe at the beginning there will be some compromise like a gangban if the creator has time to implement it, but I highly doubt it. For example, Penguin only fucks Anna on Monday, Chris on Tuesday, Jack on Wednesday, Old Fish on Thursday, Rob on Friday, Marcel on Saturday. Leonard when he doesn't have a deadline, Tim and Dal don't have a deadline either. Old Fox doesn't have a deadline either. And Anna also has to have a break to regenerate. And she won't be eternally horny.

 

[DarthSpitz717]

No, what society says, what family says, what friends say... won't stop her. There has to be an inner barrier. Flirting, jokes about... if repeated... pave the way, level the rough edges, the rough edges that should stop her ... . If she's not a slut, which you should notice from a young age, at least a few signs ... a keen eye should notice the transformation ... except that not everyone is attentive or has the ability to understand the importance of every detail. For example, David should at least notice the change in Anna's work outfit.

No, Anna was never deadly in love with David. Pragmatic, looking for social status: married, child ... checked, checked.
If she had loved him and cared about her marriage, she would have cleared up every detail of David's alleged affair. But no, she uses the alleged affair for... emancipation

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Actually in the beginning Anna kept faithful because it was expected of her (society, social norms etc.). Now... though it's not made a point in the game itself, it might have been Anna's firewall against herself. Part of being a married woman was in some small part, but it is possible that is the image she needed to hold onto of being a respectable woman. We all live our lives partly or mostly in the fiction of we ourselves create and hide a lot of our real selves from the rest of the world.

I think Anna is now far beyond pragmatism and now in the realm of using pragmatism as just one more of her excuses. And yes Anna was more in love with being married than David.

Emancipation...?

I don't think Anna is there yet... finding excuses to justify her behavior certainly! Rationalizing her relationships and actions and Anna blaming David...oh boy! See, what I am wondering (down the road) is what happens to Anna's thinking when she does cheat.

I can see it being a two-phase problem to ponder. In the first I expect cheating to be more along the lines of it being a surprise. But the second phase is where Anna knowingly and willingly goes out to make it happen.

 

[Sadowdark]

Penguin / Hank doesnt care who fuck Ana lol..He wants her as his bitch. And he doesnt even care if he gets fired from the company for that.

You could be wrong, Penguin definitely won't want to share Anna with the old fish.