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lol at the end.

About a month back a wrote a post so fucking long that I became ashamed of it as I was writing it. I then took a good week or two away from this site, lol.

At the end of the day, who gives a shit? Rather, we shouldn't. My only call in any story, porn or not, is consistency in character behavior. After that I don't really care where the writer goes with it as long as they behave like the characters I was introduced to (short of some massive event, which is a valid reason for change).

In the end, yeah, who gives a fuck and what are we all talking about? Fuck yourselves (lol jk).
All fair points , my only slight critique with the game is Anna's personality or mindset what ever you want to put it into , now I know she's portrayed to be naive but FIVE years she has been putting up with Chris's shit and advances and the amount of stuff she lets him away with or Indulges or any guy regardless of the route and the only thought that ever comes into her head is best not tell / let David find out as he will only overreact

Now theres being naive and then there this haha at this stage I'm convinced the lights are on but nobody's home
 
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All fair points , my only slight critic with the game is Anna's personality or mindset what ever you want to put it into , now I know she's portrayed to be naive but FIVE years she has been putting up with Chris's shit and advances and the amount of stuff she lets him away with or Indulges or any guy regardless of the route and the only thought that ever comes into her head is best not tell / let David find out as he will only overreact

Now theres being naive and then there this haha at this stage I'm convinced the lights are on but nobody's home
Well, I think the critical point here is the suspected infidelity of David. Anna, if you recall, avoided the neighbor after he got handsy before the baby. She used to ignore Chris. Thinking her husband cheated, however, has muddled her thoughts. Man or woman - if put in an emotional state will make bad choices and seemingly stupid decisions. That is how I view Anna - a woman in crisis who was already dealing with a newborn and body changes then…the stuff with David. Her constructed world has shattered bringing to the fore her need for approval and affirmation. Of course, it is contingent on your choices how far down the rabbit Ho she goes…oh, I mean “hole” rabbit hole.
 
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Well, I think the critical point here is the suspected infidelity of David. Anna, if you recall, avoided the neighbor after he got handsy before the baby. She used to ignore Chris. Thinking her husband cheated, however, has muddled her thoughts. Man or woman - if put in an emotional state will make bad choices and seemingly stupid decisions. That is how I view Anna - a woman in crisis who was already dealing with a newborn and body changes then…the stuff with David. Her constructed world has shattered bringing to the fore her need for approval and affirmation. Of course, it is contingent on your choices how far down the rabbit Ho she goes…oh, I mean “hole” rabbit hole.
So this is even before any of this Chris legit tried to steal Anna from David the first time he met her and has been obsessed since and has made multiple attempts to steal her from him over the years and the only thing she thinks is that David will overreact

Like all off this is covered on the first day of Anna going back to work regardless of pov

Also regardless of if she ignores him it's being going on for five years there is no situation where his reaction would be classed as an overreaction

So my point is the fact that she thinks David would overreact is pointless as if we apply any small aspect of reality to this David's reaction would be justified


Disclaimer woman can't be stolen as no one owns anyone I just couldn't think of another way to word it
 

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All fair points , my only slight critique with the game is Anna's personality or mindset what ever you want to put it into , now I know she's portrayed to be naive but FIVE years she has been putting up with Chris's shit and advances and the amount of stuff she lets him away with or Indulges or any guy regardless of the route and the only thought that ever comes into her head is best not tell / let David find out as he will only overreact

Now theres being naive and then there this haha at this stage I'm convinced the lights are on but nobody's home
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Solid logic and you are right... save for....

In the beginning of the game, we really didn't know too much about Anna, but as the game has gone on, we have discovered a key build to her personality. She loves attention from men. Why would she have teased Marvin with a cleavage shot in the beginning.... IT'S MARVIN of all people. Part of that would be attention seeking and yet another part would be the second thing we learn about Anna.

After having a baby its clear Anna has some doubts about how she looks. She is too aware she is a goddess and men want her. Somewhat naive to the lengths men would go to get her thinking to herself go ahead and look, I'm married, and you can't have me. However, that confidence was not as strong before she had her baby. All that points to is Anna is vain about her looks.

Now just how naive is Anna really? She is very sexual as are many women & men but what really is on her menu for fun. We get a scene from a long time ago where Anna is home from college and meets up with Grant. Anna pretty much says it that she would let Grant rail her as much to help him get release as to get release herself if her father wasn't home. That's Grant... old enough to have been her father, fat and ugly with really no game. So what would make an attractive young woman who knows she's pretty let Grant climb on top of her? The act of sex getting her rocks off is the only answer there I can come up with.

Which brings us to the night out with Jake, Kendra, and Marvin and the coffee breakroom with Timothy and Dale. It's not Marvin is much with only Timothy/Dale being a bit more but the situation. Anna had repressed so much of her natural tendencies to remain a respected wife/mother that that special sweet tooth of hers kept her in check. Now that there is the possibility of divorce, anything and everything could be the excuse she needs to let her hair down
 

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Solid logic and you are right... save for....

In the beginning of the game, we really didn't know too much about Anna, but as the game has gone on, we have discovered a key build to her personality. She loves attention from men. Why would she have teased Marvin with a cleavage shot in the beginning.... IT'S MARVIN of all people. Part of that would be attention seeking and yet another part would be the second thing we learn about Anna.

After having a baby its clear Anna has some doubts about how she looks. She is too aware she is a goddess and men want her. Somewhat naive to the lengths men would go to get her thinking to herself go ahead and look, I'm married, and you can't have me. However, that confidence was not as strong before she had her baby. All that points to is Anna is vain about her looks.

Now just how naive is Anna really? She is very sexual as are many women & men but what really is on her menu for fun. We get a scene from a long time ago where Anna is home from college and meets up with Grant. Anna pretty much says it that she would let Grant rail her as much to help him get release as to get release herself if her father wasn't home. That's Grant... old enough to have been her father, fat and ugly with really no game. So what would make an attractive young woman who knows she's pretty let Grant climb on top of her? The act of sex getting her rocks off is the only answer there I can come up with.

Which brings us to the night out with Jake, Kendra, and Marvin and the coffee breakroom with Timothy and Dale. It's not Marvin is much with only Timothy/Dale being a bit more but the situation. Anna had repressed so much of her natural tendencies to remain a respected wife/mother that that special sweet tooth of hers kept her in check. Now that there is the possibility of divorce, anything and everything could be the excuse she needs to let her hair down
Solid points but with her sexual desires why then lean so heavily into her not sleeping around and she's only been with for people , will be interesting to how it develops, overall I actually like her character but it gets incredibly tedious reading it will just make David overreact over and over and over again , like if we apply some reality to it and say they stay together and she comes clean about everything over the years of there relationship, it's dead at that stage David would never forgive or trust her again

Your mind would just default to how much of this relationship is a lie you would go into an endless spiral

Also the Marvin aspect it's very clear that Anna has a "daddy" kink she seeks out older men in place of her father

Could also be a touch of oedipus complex maybe not to the extremes but could be his treatment of her stirred something in her and without the hatred towards her mother

Also one of the reasons I don't see her draw to Jake
 
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All fair points , my only slight critique with the game is Anna's personality or mindset what ever you want to put it into , now I know she's portrayed to be naive but FIVE years she has been putting up with Chris's shit and advances and the amount of stuff she lets him away with or Indulges or any guy regardless of the route and the only thought that ever comes into her head is best not tell / let David find out as he will only overreact

Now theres being naive and then there this haha at this stage I'm convinced the lights are on but nobody's home
Not totally wrong but like Xert and others said, there are a couple realistic hinge-points here.

First, all women have that guy or guys in their life to some degree. Even of it's just social media. They either have the schlub at work that they'll never fuck but he showers her with praise and gifts or they have a social media account where, even with 500 followers, a picture of them doing something mundane will net them 4 or 5 guys telling her how pretty she is.

This is not an incel or anti-woman post, btw. Any half-attractive woman has those in her life. All attractive women have that.
Also, any male friend group where there are more than 3 dudes and one has a pretty GF/wife has a Chris in it. One of your friends would or is actively trying to fuck the other's girl. A fact of nature I've seen first hand.

Finally, Anna not only has that in Chris but now she thinks her husband cheated...and a woman that's been cheated on is wildly unpredictable. She may want revenge, she may do nothing, she may crawl into a hole of depression, she might start a brand new life 100 miles from the town she was cheated on, she may start fucking every dude she meets or she may do a combo of those things.

For me, the Anna-Chris dynamic is the only very believable thing in the story (even if exaggerated for porn purposes). Every other dynamic takes a bit of willful suspension of disbelief.
 

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EDIT: It won't quote the post I'm replying to but it's MZY321's post above

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I wouldn't call them losers or wrong for wanting to see Marvin do whatever. I'm down for whatever in a VN but I will agree on the notion that the universal "it's just a porn game" people are wrong.

A story has to have some level of consistency FROM THE WRITER.

If a story is wacky and nonsensical from the jump? Do whatever. Porn logic is in control.

If a story tries to represent itself as realistic (as much as one can be in a porn story), don't then forgive the writer's fuckups, inconsistency and/or bad writingas "it was always just a porn story".

No, it wasn't. This VN has presented itself as being a bit more grounded than others. Therefore we should expect that to continue.
A story like AWAM claims to be the height and highlight of realism and then the characters act like bipolar aliens.

If the characters in APM begin to act counter to how they were presented, I'll call it out and bail. However, nothing with Marvin seems to go against what was initially presented. It's consistent. If you don't like age stuff, don't play it.

My concern is that the dev will pull an AWAM and start to "level-up" all the men consistently even after where she has gone with one of them in particular (Chris). That would be a bad move. However, that doesn't mean things can't happen with others and Marvin is another major character. This was shown early on.
As always marvin got the worst part of his history :cry:
 

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Solid logic and you are right... save for....

In the beginning of the game, we really didn't know too much about Anna, but as the game has gone on, we have discovered a key build to her personality. She loves attention from men. Why would she have teased Marvin with a cleavage shot in the beginning.... IT'S MARVIN of all people. Part of that would be attention seeking and yet another part would be the second thing we learn about Anna.

After having a baby its clear Anna has some doubts about how she looks. She is too aware she is a goddess and men want her. Somewhat naive to the lengths men would go to get her thinking to herself go ahead and look, I'm married, and you can't have me. However, that confidence was not as strong before she had her baby. All that points to is Anna is vain about her looks.

Now just how naive is Anna really? She is very sexual as are many women & men but what really is on her menu for fun. We get a scene from a long time ago where Anna is home from college and meets up with Grant. Anna pretty much says it that she would let Grant rail her as much to help him get release as to get release herself if her father wasn't home. That's Grant... old enough to have been her father, fat and ugly with really no game. So what would make an attractive young woman who knows she's pretty let Grant climb on top of her? The act of sex getting her rocks off is the only answer there I can come up with.

Which brings us to the night out with Jake, Kendra, and Marvin and the coffee breakroom with Timothy and Dale. It's not Marvin is much with only Timothy/Dale being a bit more but the situation. Anna had repressed so much of her natural tendencies to remain a respected wife/mother that that special sweet tooth of hers kept her in check. Now that there is the possibility of divorce, anything and everything could be the excuse she needs to let her hair down
If anna worked in a law firm why didn't she use her tools against grant or is she such an asshole that she doesn't think with her brain but with her vulva?
 

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So this is even before any of this Chris legit tried to steal Anna from David the first time he met her and has been obsessed since and has made multiple attempts to steal her from him over the years and the only thing she thinks is that David will overreact

Like all off this is covered on the first day of Anna going back to work regardless of pov

Also regardless of if she ignores him it's being going on for five years there is no situation where his reaction would be classed as an overreaction

So my point is the fact that she thinks David would overreact is pointless as if we apply any small aspect of reality to this David's reaction would be justified


Disclaimer woman can't be stolen as no one owns anyone I just couldn't think of another way to word it
there you are wrong, everyone has their own definition, grant and hank something like a father figure, but marvin.... a loving grandfather. ;) :p:D
 

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Solid points but with her sexual desires why then lean so heavily into her not sleeping around and she's only been with for people , will be interesting to how it develops, overall I actually like her character but it gets incredibly tedious reading it will just make David overreact over and over and over again , like if we apply some reality to it and say they stay together and she comes clean about everything over the years of there relationship, it's dead at that stage David would never forgive or trust her again

Your mind would just default to how much of this relationship is a lie you would go into an endless spiral

Also the Marvin aspect it's very clear that Anna has a "daddy" kink she seeks out older men in place of her father

Could also be a touch of oedipus complex maybe not to the extremes but could be his treatment of her stirred something in her and without the hatred towards her mother

Also one of the reasons I don't see her draw to Jake
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We both are on to something... and see much the same thing just from different viewpoints.

My approach seeing Anna's character comes from what I have seen with those around me. Life has taught me; women are like cats. When you get one you think you're getting a lovable fuzz ball, but anyone who has cats or a long history of having cats know is each cat is different. Some are just your loving cuddle kittens... some are just moody and stand offish... and others totally batshit crazy.

Sure I've seen where the guy had it coming. Some of these guys were a real piece of work. Others you wonder W T Frak, she's just plain nuts. David is one or the other of these types of guys that have their wives step out on them. But that is player choice how David reacts.

Of women, most are your normal average personality and mind set females that just need to find that special one in their lives and things are good. But... oh there are some really scary women out there on any and or every level. I've known women who just need an excuse, and you'll find yourself in her bedroom or her in yours's. In that situation you pray you don't have to chew your own arm off to get away. Anna isn't near that bad... either now... or likely in the past. Even if she was interested, she needed a "reason" to have physical relationship from her point of view what is/was an acceptable reason. At odds with how Anna was raised and what she wants seems to be and is an ongoing conflict
 

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Dear mr.fluid,
It’s been taking you quite a long time to complete 2% of the remaining update. You are giving us more slow burns than anna give to us. We are stocking up our fluid for anna but in case update gets delayed then kindly be ready to gulp up some fluid, so that we can get some relief from blue balls
 
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Dear mr.fluid,
It’s been taking you quite a long time to complete 2% of the remaining update. You are giving us more slow burns than anna give to us. We are stocking up our fluid for anna but in case update gets delayed then kindly be ready to gulp up some fluid, so that we can get some relief from blue balls
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We both are on to something... and see much the same thing just from different viewpoints.

My approach seeing Anna's character comes from what I have seen with those around me. Life has taught me; women are like cats. When you get one you think you're getting a lovable fuzz ball, but anyone who has cats or a long history of having cats know is each cat is different. Some are just your loving cuddle kittens... some are just moody and stand offish... and others totally batshit crazy.

Sure I've seen where the guy had it coming. Some of these guys were a real piece of work. Others you wonder W T Frak, she's just plain nuts. David is one or the other of these types of guys that have their wives step out on them. But that is player choice how David reacts.

Of women, most are your normal average personality and mind set females that just need to find that special one in their lives and things are good. But... oh there are some really scary women out there on any and or every level. I've known women who just need an excuse, and you'll find yourself in her bedroom or her in yours's. In that situation you pray you don't have to chew your own arm off to get away. Anna isn't near that bad... either now... or likely in the past. Even if she was interested, she needed a "reason" to have physical relationship from her point of view what is/was an acceptable reason. At odds with how Anna was raised and what she wants seems to be and is an ongoing conflict
Some really good points there and I will agree some women are just bar shit crazy.... But that's where the hot/crazy scale comes into play

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out I do think there some form of traumatic event that drives her kinks or desires.... But on the other side I wonder are we just looking into to much and it's something much simpler like a good old fashioned praise kink

The only other thing I can't put my finger on from doing a few play throughs is she can become submissive to other men when they call the shots , try to protect her etc but from playing multiple routes and having a look at the walkthroughs if David attempts that it seems to have an adverse effect on her which I found odd , so I do think she genuinely loves David no doubt about that , now once you get the the act scene where she confronts him about the cheating/staged cheating I still believe that love is there she's just all over the place ... Now back to my point I wonder if it has an adverse effect on her as to her David has always been the good guy so to see him act that way it does nothing for her as she feels that it's an act rather than his actual demeanor
 
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