VN Ren'Py A Perfect Marriage [v0.7.5b] [Mr Palmer]

[a47356441]

This is supposed to be a story of corruption and betrayal not of love and romance. For that reason, MP has close to zero interest in the faithful route. He's only entertaining it because the faithful route fans are oblivious to this reality and bug the shit out of him on a daily basis. I would not expect this story to turn into anything that resembles a happy, loving couple. A Perfect Marriage it will never be.

The game's homepage clearly states that it's an NTR-themed game, so I really don't understand why so many players who value fidelity are playing it and complaining. I find these people very annoying.

 

[Sadowdark]

I will and you should. I'm just telling you what MP told me. He didn't plan on going deep with the faithful route. The story was, and continues to be, primarily focused on corruption/cheating/betrayal. The marriage may survive but it will not be without some level of hanky panky between Anna and one or more of the guys.

Nothing of the sort will happen. I asked him a long time ago. Anna won't betray David with anyone if you decide to.

 

[CURIOUS_1976]

For me I feel Anna does sexual things to help out a person she considers a friend or as a reward or pity.

I don't think the character considers anything they do to be cheating.

I've seen this attitude approach used in a few Avn's.

Bearing in mind that she believes David is a cheater for receiving a bj that never happened.

It's quite a hypercritical approach from Anna.

 

[Sadowdark]

The game's homepage clearly states that it's an NTR-themed game, so I really don't understand why so many players who value fidelity are playing it and complaining. I find these people very annoying.

Because there are other paths, if they weren't, they wouldn't be playing. Besides, if MP only cared about NTR, there would be no avoiding anything in this game; there would only be a path of corruption.

Besides, MP has a completely different definition of NTR

 

[xert13]

Anna wears red, but your balls are blue.
You will see her get stuffed in 2032.

 

[Couto25]

Nothing of the sort will happen. I asked him a long time ago. Anna won't betray David with anyone if you decide to. View attachment 5494300

You are always saving Ana from being nude and giving HJ in faithful route more than MP. Helping MP to create an antiporn VN.

 

[Sadowdark]

You are always saving Ana from being nude and giving HJ in faithful route more than MP.

Once the game is finished, I'll play on a different path. I also have saves for the corruption path.

 

[hoochimama]

The way the faithful "path" is implemented in this game so far doesn't really seem to cost much as it's just piggybacking off the "cheat now? yes/no" choices that are primarily implemented for the sake of NTS players (~40% of the audience) who like to be able to pick and choose/have control over who a LI cheats with.

This isn't like other games that offer real separate paths (often the 3 paths: loyal/harem, NTS and NTR) where most of the content ends up being entirely different depending on the path (such as entirely different locations, events and characters involved) often making the loyal paths disproportionally expensive given that typically fewer than 10% of players prefer them.

Right now in this game whenever the wife is presented with a "cheat? yes/no" option before a cheating event you either pick yes for the cheating event and are presented with dozens of sexy frames and some animations, or pick no and only get a couple of frames where she visibly declines. Those few frames where the wife declines or turns down the cheating event look like they'd be at least 10x times cheaper to produce than all the frames and animations in the cheating scenes. And the ability to refuse each given cheating event would likely still be implemented regardless of a planned "loyal/happy" path/ending as one of several concessions/compromises for the sake of NTS players (it's already "fake NTR" because of it).

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

For me I feel Anna does sexual things to help out a person she considers a friend or as a reward or pity.

I don't think the character considers anything they do to be cheating.

I've seen this attitude approach used in a few Avn's.

Bearing in mind that she believes David is a cheater for receiving a bj that never happened.

It's quite a hypercritical approach from Anna.

Right and ill just tell the wife this and it should work

 

[Couto25]

Once the game is finished, I'll play on a different path. I also have saves for the corruption path.

Your kids will play different path ...I don't think this VN will finish in our lifetime. Probably will be abandoned if trump wins again or ww happens.

 

[Couto25]

Damn did you include every shower scene comment in the game? I think you forgot this one
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The sad part is she didn't thought about Rob fingering her so it'll be HJ fest again...Only hope is if Chris touch her in undecisive path which i feel is impossible in the presence of unconscious David.

Idk why slow corruption developers are addicted to dicks rather than pussy scenes when it comes to tease..I would be happy to see 10 fingering and licking scenes rather than 10 BJ/HJ scenes

 

[AlfredBundy4]

For me I feel Anna does sexual things to help out a person she considers a friend or as a reward or pity.

I don't think the character considers anything they do to be cheating.

I've seen this attitude approach used in a few Avn's.

Bearing in mind that she believes David is a cheater for receiving a bj that never happened.

It's quite a hypercritical approach from Anna.

It happens. Quick story of my friend that dodged a bullet with a woman (girl, to be honest).

After HS he is dating this woman he just met at college. She is from the middle of nowhere and had a male classmate that went to school in New York City, NYU if I recall correctly.

Long story short, She and my friend were in the very early beginnings of a relationship when she suddenly can't be contacted for New Years Eve. After asking around he learns that she flew to New York. Why? Nobody knows.

Around the 4th of January she suddenly turns back up and she is very honest about what happened.
This male classmate lost a parent and when she gave condolences he offered to fly her to NYC for New Years. They'd hang out, go to the ball dropping, etc. She agreed as he covered the expenses.

Well, and I'm sure you know where this is going, she outright admits to sleeping with him. My friend thinks it's odd but she thinks it's fine as they weren't officially together yet.
My friend is put off by this but not angry with her...until she says something while trying to explain herself.

She tells him that she "felt obligated" to sleep with him. Why?

A) He just lost someone close to him.

B) He paid for her trip to NYC.

Understandably, that's what made him angry because it's such a weird justification. She had to have known that getting on the plane meant she was going to fuck him and she still did it...but then called it an obligation, lol. She and the classmate were never a couple beforehand, btw! Not before or after (as far as I know).

Point being, it sounds crazy and I don't think I've ever hooked up out of "obligation" or a woman feeling pity for me but it does happen...and, like Anna, they don't think it's weird or wrong.
She genuinely thought that my friend would be ok with going forward after hearing that. Shoot, even I spoke to her personally while she tried to get a hold of him after that and even to me she insisted that he shouldn't be mad about it. I had to tell her that he was never mad about what she did but how she justified it, that it came off as weird and a massive red flag. Last I ever spoke to her.

So, while Anna may or my not do things out of pity or a feeling of obligation, it does happen IRL. It absolutely does happen. Some random dude out there fucked his old HS classmate out of pity and dropping a few hundred on a round trip plane ticket lol. Those alone got him laid as even she admitted she "didn't like him like that". It wasn't an old flame, just a dude she knew that was sad.

 

[TeamEquipe]

It happens. Quick story of my friend that dodged a bullet with a woman (girl, to be honest).

After HS he is dating this woman he just met at college. She is from the middle of nowhere and had a male classmate that went to school in New York City, NYU if I recall correctly.

Long story short, She and my friend were in the very early beginnings of a relationship when she suddenly can't be contacted for New Years Eve. After asking around he learns that she flew to New York. Why? Nobody knows.

Around the 4th of January she suddenly turns back up and she is very honest about what happened.
This male classmate lost a parent and when she gave condolences he offered to fly her to NYC for New Years. They'd hang out, go to the ball dropping, etc. She agreed as he covered the expenses.

Well, and I'm sure you know where this is going, she outright admits to sleeping with him. My friend thinks it's odd but she thinks it's fine as they weren't officially together yet.
My friend is put off by this but not angry with her...until she says something while trying to explain herself.

She tells him that she "felt obligated" to sleep with him. Why?

A) He just lost someone close to him.

B) He paid for her trip to NYC.

Understandably, that's what made him angry because it's such a weird justification. She had to have known that getting on the plane meant she was going to fuck him and she still did it...but then called it an obligation, lol. She and the classmate were never a couple beforehand, btw! Not before or after (as far as I know).

Point being, it sounds crazy and I don't think I've ever hooked up out of "obligation" or a woman feeling pity for me but it does happen...and, like Anna, they don't think it's weird or wrong.
She genuinely thought that my friend would be ok with going forward after hearing that. Shoot, even I spoke to her personally while she tried to get a hold of him after that and even to me she insisted that he shouldn't be mad about it. I had to tell her that he was never mad about what she did but how she justified it, that it came off as weird and a massive red flag. Last I ever spoke to her.

So, while Anna may or my not do things out of pity or a feeling of obligation, it does happen IRL. It absolutely does happen. Some random dude out there fucked his old HS classmate out of pity and dropping a few hundred on a round trip plane ticket lol. Those alone got him laid as even she admitted she "didn't like him like that". It wasn't an old flame, just a dude she knew that was sad.

I think that's proof that many women can separate sex from love, even when they are in a relationship with someone they profess to love.
Or that's their justification for cheating anyway!

 

[tharsheblows]

It happens. Quick story of my friend that dodged a bullet with a woman (girl, to be honest).

After HS he is dating this woman he just met at college. She is from the middle of nowhere and had a male classmate that went to school in New York City, NYU if I recall correctly.

Long story short, She and my friend were in the very early beginnings of a relationship when she suddenly can't be contacted for New Years Eve. After asking around he learns that she flew to New York. Why? Nobody knows.

Around the 4th of January she suddenly turns back up and she is very honest about what happened.
This male classmate lost a parent and when she gave condolences he offered to fly her to NYC for New Years. They'd hang out, go to the ball dropping, etc. She agreed as he covered the expenses.

Well, and I'm sure you know where this is going, she outright admits to sleeping with him. My friend thinks it's odd but she thinks it's fine as they weren't officially together yet.
My friend is put off by this but not angry with her...until she says something while trying to explain herself.

She tells him that she "felt obligated" to sleep with him. Why?

A) He just lost someone close to him.

B) He paid for her trip to NYC.

Understandably, that's what made him angry because it's such a weird justification. She had to have known that getting on the plane meant she was going to fuck him and she still did it...but then called it an obligation, lol. She and the classmate were never a couple beforehand, btw! Not before or after (as far as I know).

Point being, it sounds crazy and I don't think I've ever hooked up out of "obligation" or a woman feeling pity for me but it does happen...and, like Anna, they don't think it's weird or wrong.
She genuinely thought that my friend would be ok with going forward after hearing that. Shoot, even I spoke to her personally while she tried to get a hold of him after that and even to me she insisted that he shouldn't be mad about it. I had to tell her that he was never mad about what she did but how she justified it, that it came off as weird and a massive red flag. Last I ever spoke to her.

So, while Anna may or my not do things out of pity or a feeling of obligation, it does happen IRL. It absolutely does happen. Some random dude out there fucked his old HS classmate out of pity and dropping a few hundred on a round trip plane ticket lol. Those alone got him laid as even she admitted she "didn't like him like that". It wasn't an old flame, just a dude she knew that was sad.

Still got her number?
Grandma just tipped over.

 

[a47356441]

Because there are other paths, if they weren't, they wouldn't be playing. Besides, if MP only cared about NTR, there would be no avoiding anything in this game; there would only be a path of corruption.

Besides, MP has a completely different definition of NTR

There might be other routes available, but they shouldn't complain, because this is a game with an NTR theme. If they're not satisfied, they should go find a game with a pure romance theme. Since they chose to play this game, they shouldn't complain. Otherwise, they're ruining the gaming experience for us NTR players. This behavior is selfish.

You want to eat beef, but you go to a fruit store to buy fruit, and then complain that the store doesn't have what you want to eat? What's the point of that?

 

[Azn035]

There might be other routes available, but they shouldn't complain, because this is a game with an NTR theme. If they're not satisfied, they should go find a game with a pure romance theme. Since they chose to play this game, they shouldn't complain. Otherwise, they're ruining the gaming experience for us NTR players. This behavior is selfish.

You want to eat beef, but you go to a fruit store to buy fruit, and then complain that the store doesn't have what you want to eat? What's the point of that?

its all up to Mr Palmer in the end but yea he should at least complete the NTR /route first.

 

[Scotty Doesn't Know]

The way the faithful "path" is implemented in this game so far doesn't really seem to cost much as it's just piggybacking off the "cheat now? yes/no" choices that are primarily implemented for the sake of NTS players (~40% of the audience) who like to be able to pick and choose/have control over who a LI cheats with.

This isn't like other games that offer real separate paths (often the 3 paths: loyal/harem, NTS and NTR) where most of the content ends up being entirely different depending on the path (such as entirely different locations, events and characters involved) often making the loyal paths disproportionally expensive given that typically fewer than 10% of players prefer them.

Right now in this game whenever the wife is presented with a "cheat? yes/no" option before a cheating event you either pick yes for the cheating event and are presented with dozens of sexy frames and some animations, or get a mere couple of different frames where she visibly declines. Those handful of frames where the wife declines or turns down the cheating event look like they'd be at least 10x times cheaper to produce than all the frames and animations in the cheating scenes. And the ability to refuse each given cheating event would likely still be implemented regardless of a planned "loyal/happy" path/ending as one of several concessions/compromises for the sake of NTS players (it's already "fake NTR" because of it).

The "faithful path" is there out of necessity only in these NTR type games. If it wasn't there it would be a kinetic VN, it basically is anyway. Dev has to put a yes / no option on lewd scenes, as that choice is the only thing that makes it a game. Its still really a fake choice as you don't get another scene or anything for saying no. Scene ends after a couple renders.

You get minimal dialogue differences in future updates, still have exactly the same scenes asking you yes / no again. The ending of the game will be different but otherwise nothing really changes during gameplay. Its basically saying would you like to play with lewd scenes or not lol. I don't think some "faithful" players realize they're being scammed by all of these games!

 

[AlfredBundy4]

Still got her number?
Grandma just tipped over.

lol, She was alright looking though. Not ugly, I'd call her a legit 7/10. I literally never heard or seen her after she stopped by looking for him that day. Should have told her I stubbed my toe to get my dick in her mouth lol.

But Most cheating VN games need to have that as a character trait because they can only get drunk and molested so many times. That or go AWAM and have the MC be a weird moron that changes feelings every 15 mins.

 

[NewGuy2022]

I disagree, just cause the marriage is having problems, doesn't mean you completely forget that person. Having an option to think of David shows that no matter how many struggles, no matter how much conflict is going on, no matter how many fights they have, that she still loves David and will always think of him, cause THAT is LOVE.

That is the point of the Faithful Route. It why there is a route like this in the first place. And MP seems to agree with the thought process and reasoning, and will probably be adding that option for just thinking of David in shower and office.

A perfect marriage is what you make it, this is not strictly a NTR/Corruption only story. WE CHOOSE. WE DECIDE. So if I think the faithful path is getting mistreated, and could use some adjustments, I will bring it up, and the dev decided to agree, I didn't force anything on him.

And if the faithful path doesn't matter why, are we having a date at all and getting David focus this next update.

So how about you play your corruption cheating story and I will enjoy the love story that is David and Anna.

Ok. A bit of an unnecessarily personal swipe at me in your response but... ...whatever.

Since you missed what I said, allow me to restate: The developer doesn't even think enough of David to write him into the wife's inner monologues; that shows me where the developer's head is with this story. Even the developer gave up on David, the MC in his own story (at least in this part of it).

While I don't expect you to follow what I write here, it's pretty fecking obvious to all that I've been a faithful path proponent since I started posting here.

But, hey, you do you, pal. Why don't we just leave it and walk away?

 

[NewGuy2022]

For me I feel Anna does sexual things to help out a person she considers a friend or as a reward or pity.

I don't think the character considers anything they do to be cheating.

I've seen this attitude approach used in a few Avn's.

Bearing in mind that she believes David is a cheater for receiving a bj that never happened.

It's quite a hypercritical approach from Anna.

Just my opinion, the developer deliberately wrote her this way so that what she is doing looks like cheating (to provoke anger, jealousy, etc., in some) but she can think that she's still a good person. Porn logic, in a way. She's gullible about a lot of things because that supports the plot (David, too).

I mean, really: how can she not realize what Chris, Ron, and Marvin are up to? She has to be written as gullible so it's easier to corrupt her if that's what the player wants to do. At the same time for folks on the faithful path she hasn't really "cheated."

I wouldn't buy that argument from my wife in real life (nor would she accept it from me) but we're not living in an AVN.