VN Ren'Py A Perfect Marriage [v0.7.5b] [Mr Palmer]

[Couto25]

All 3 games I mentioned are like 3 types of NTR-

APM is pure torture where a decent person will always play the pure/love route once and hope for a good ending cuz dev added enough depth in character development, I personally don't mind slow burn if it doesn't interrupt the story progress.

MHB is arousing NTR, you know who is good and bad still ok with progression, recent update us getting backlash cuz dev progressed the story too fast and made the FMC slut instantly in 2 releases.

AWAM has just became a 'too much popular milking porn game', too much things involved and people have to wait years just to play there favorite branch progression, at this point people don't give a shit about husband NTR and waiting for FMC sex scenes. But still you can't deny the impact of AWAM in FMC corruption games, its amongst the OGs

All are same type of NTR..give it 1 more year...then you will change your mind....This "slow corruption" in the name of "realism" is what milking is then there is backlash in release date in all these games...so you will see basically all has same form of milking techniques in the end, Make audience wait for sex as long as they can. If the story reach close to sex with some antagonist, add some irrelevant side storyline twist and change the antagonist for the next 3/4 updates.

 

[DragonBallsJI]

APM, MHB & AWAM are the best NTR, Corruption and slow burn games in this forum
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Not here to change your mind, but just my opinion:

APM is way way way better then MHB and AWAM could ever be. AWM and MHB are not even in my top 20 lists of NTR games after the rise of these brilliant AI games. So many really good devs out there making such amazing games that MHB and AWAM if were released today no one would even know that they existed.

AWAM was release over 10 years ago and it has nothing to show for, I stopped playing this a couple of years ago so may be I missed like 3 updates, because each new update had just more and more incest, it's more incest at this point then NTR.

MHB just jumps into sex way too soon, plus it's more humiliation and heart break then NTR, also I kind of don't like the FMC to be honest with her short hair and in so many scenes she looks quite old and ugly. MHB was quite good in the beginning but then it got too stale with every time the FMC is like "Oh I Hate You, I don't want you" and then 2 seconds later "OH YEAH... You are the best", seriously? EVERY F***** TIME!!!

Anyways, APM is way too good and brilliant to be put in the same category as AWAM and MHB. APM has so many good scenes and this is one of those games where I don't mind if there are no sex scenes because it's always something new and exciting unlike AWAM and MHB where it's either the ugly boss or idiot son or a awe struck neighbor.

You don't have to change your mind but at least don't compare a gem like APM and a so-so game like MHB and a crap like AWAM.

 

[MZy321]

APM is by far the best game of all, mainly because of the female protagonist and because David actually has balls — unlike the spineless guys in other games. I love everything about this game, especially the dialogues and the FMC’s comebacks. I remember how she teases Hank when he says she lifts more weight at the gym than David, and then she asks him if he even goes to the gym — it’s hilarious. There’s also the shower scene with Chris, which is great and full of sarcasm. He says her boss is trying to hit on her, and she replies: ‘Is that all you think about, who wants to sleep with whom?’ Then she goes on to say that there’s a real world out there, where people actually interact once in a while. Chris says she shouldn’t trust Rob, and she fires back: ‘Says the guy taking a shower with his friend’s wife.’ In the latest update, she even makes him jealous by saying that Rob is handsome. There’s also the dialogue between David and Jake where David says something like, ‘While you were still in school, I was already an adult’ — more or less like that. For all these reasons and more, APM is so special. It’s not superficial at all; it shows people in conflict, struggling with their desires and trying to hold on to their morals. I don’t know any other game with such ironic dialogue and such a charismatic FMC.

 

[NewGuy2022]

APM is by far the best game of all, mainly because of the female protagonist and because David actually has balls — unlike the spineless guys in other games. I love everything about this game, especially the dialogues and the FMC’s comebacks. I remember how she teases Hank when he says she lifts more weight at the gym than David, and then she asks him if he even goes to the gym — it’s hilarious. There’s also the shower scene with Chris, which is great and full of sarcasm. He says her boss is trying to hit on her, and she replies: ‘Is that all you think about, who wants to sleep with whom?’ Then she goes on to say that there’s a real world out there, where people actually interact once in a while. Chris says she shouldn’t trust Rob, and she fires back: ‘Says the guy taking a shower with his friend’s wife.’ In the latest update, she even makes him jealous by saying that Rob is handsome. There’s also the dialogue between David and Jake where David says something like, ‘While you were still in school, I was already an adult’ — more or less like that. For all these reasons and more, APM is so special. It’s not superficial at all; it shows people in conflict, struggling with their desires and trying to hold on to their morals. I don’t know any other game with such ironic dialogue and such a charismatic FMC.

I agree with you that this story is all about Anna but I disagree that David actually has balls; if the player makes choices to suggest that David has balls, the points penalize him as being insecure and increase the likelihood that his wife will betray him.

Now, if the player wants to see a cheating wife then I suppose those players would consider that a good outcome... I just never see betrayal as a positive thing.

 

[Dolphine KIIV]

The ratio matters when adapting corruption-themed work with a touch of otherwise unattainable “realism.” That’s where a creative eye is needed. MP’s attempt to match his fantasy to a real-world scenario fails miserably when he starts counting the days inside the game. To make it convincing his way, he’d need to release at least twice a month just to keep up with the supposed “realism.” Anna goes from a loyal wife and good mother to almost a s**t in just two to three weeks.

 

[AlfredBundy4]

AWAM is garbage and if this VN keeps going the way of AWAM I'll tap-out on it, too.

There is milking and there are slow burns and then there is whatever the fuck AWAM is. The VN is nonsense trash and the developer is a textbook scam artist.

 

[Ass Fan]

AWAM is garbage and if this VN keeps going the way of AWAM I'll tap-out on it, too.

There is milking and there are slow burns and then there is whatever the fuck AWAM is. The VN is nonsense trash and the developer is a textbook scam artist.

Watch out, the cattle, I mean the L$P fans, will come after you.


Here at least things are progressing little by little.
Maybe in 2027 we'll see Anna having sex. And without her clothes.

 

[Azn035]

Not here to change your mind, but just my opinion:

APM is way way way better then MHB and AWAM could ever be. AWM and MHB are not even in my top 20 lists of NTR games after the rise of these brilliant AI games. So many really good devs out there making such amazing games that MHB and AWAM if were released today no one would even know that they existed.

AWAM was release over 10 years ago and it has nothing to show for, I stopped playing this a couple of years ago so may be I missed like 3 updates, because each new update had just more and more incest, it's more incest at this point then NTR.

MHB just jumps into sex way too soon, plus it's more humiliation and heart break then NTR, also I kind of don't like the FMC to be honest with her short hair and in so many scenes she looks quite old and ugly. MHB was quite good in the beginning but then it got too stale with every time the FMC is like "Oh I Hate You, I don't want you" and then 2 seconds later "OH YEAH... You are the best", seriously? EVERY F***** TIME!!!

Anyways, APM is way too good and brilliant to be put in the same category as AWAM and MHB. APM has so many good scenes and this is one of those games where I don't mind if there are no sex scenes because it's always something new and exciting unlike AWAM and MHB where it's either the ugly boss or idiot son or a awe struck neighbor.

You don't have to change your mind but at least don't compare a gem like APM and a so-so game like MHB and a crap like AWAM.

yea few major things in APM which stands out.
First, Anna is a very attractive character in a balance way.
Second, she is the type of "strong" women which i prefer
Third, the teasing and dialogue were very well done, so far i cant find a similar game like this.

AWAM is not even comparable tbh, im not sure about MHB havent tried that yet but it seems like a linear like story to me

 

[PureoSpice]

Watch out, the cattle, I mean the L$P fans, will come after you.
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Here at least things are progressing little by little.
Maybe in 2027 we'll see Anna having sex. And without her clothes.

Yh in A perfect Marriage at least there is hope and the story is very appealing.
Now that I'm thinking about it AWAM been alive since 2017 and milking is never that serious bruh. I don't know if y'all realize but that game is OG asf That's why when I see some ppl complaining in the Boundaries of Morality thread I think they should hit the AWAM thread. over there they will know what true pain is and the real meaning of milking

 

[Ass Fan]

Yh in A perfect Marriage at least there is hope and the story is very appealing.
Now that I'm thinking about it AWAM been alive since 2017 and milking is never that serious bruh. I don't know if y'all realize but that game is OG asf That's why when I see some ppl complaining in the Boundaries of Morality thread I think they should hit the AWAM thread. over there they will know what true pain is and the real meaning of milking

Yes, it's been a long time. I've even lost count of how many times there's been a remake.
And there came a point where it was good enough, but L$P always wants more...


I agree, it's very original.
Hahahaha, good one, I would do that too.
Edit: They just have to be careful not to speak ill of Dylan.
xD

Here.. I have hope even with my jokes.

 

[shadowking99]

They're definitely among the greats, but... I said the same until I played "NTR Sao Online", which blows every NTR game out of the water and it's a reason why the dev inspired many other creators to follow the same NTR Trope in their games, to the point other creators make tribute scenes to his game in their own ntr games.

Otherwise, I'd argue The Big Step and Dilmur are better corruption games, but instead of a slow burn, they do 'just right burn'.

Your argument still stands if you combine all three elements tho + extremely slow development.

The ones I mentioned are nothing less as good, except they have monthly and quite substantial updates.

What is NTR Sao Online? Couldnt find it on this website!

 

[Ass Fan]

What is NTR Sao Online? Couldnt find it on this website!

...Give it an OK, Google.

 

[Beloria2766]

MHB is 4/10 , AWAM is 6/10 and APM is 10/10 !!

 

[Gicoo]

All of these are awful NTR games stuck in development/milking hell.

APM's biggest crime was introducing two hot female love interest for the husband and had them interact with them for the first half, just to abandon everything of it and focus entirely on the wife.

 

[Shar4263]

I'm not comparing APM to any other game, it's more about perspective. If you'll add logic to the game story 99.9% games from this forum will become meaningless. It's more about how arousing the game is, Hutch perspective when sending his wife to sleep with his boss or sending his wife on a date is what make the game exciting and I WILL FIGHT WITH TO DEATH IF YOU THINK VIVIAN IS NOT SEXY. SC Stories is not charging any money and will complete the story in 5 releases so he has to complete the arcs with each releases, APM is a perfect NTR game hands down but for fap material I wait for all 3 games releases with same eagerness.

 

[hoochimama]

the points penalize him as being insecure and increase the likelihood that his wife will betray him.

I thought the points only affected a bit of flavor text at most but she/the player is always presented with the same "Cheat now? Yes/No" choices regardless of what the MC did/his choices?

 

[NewGuy2022]

I thought the points only affected a bit of flavor text at most but she/the player is always presented with the same "Cheat now? Yes/No" choices regardless of what the MC did/his choices?

Not if you look at the walkthrough and such. There are decision points in the game where points and flags are checked; sometimes you don't see the choices appear because your points didn't clear the screen (you weren't corrupt enough to think that way or you were too pure, for example), sometimes when you see the choice you won't see all of the options (again, too corrupt or not enough, etc.). Sometimes your points will drive what Anna, etc. , says in the story. The points/flags do matter.

 

[hoochimama]

Not if you look at the walkthrough and such. There are decision points in the game where points and flags are checked; sometimes you don't see the choices appear because your points didn't clear the screen (you weren't corrupt enough to think that way or you were too pure, for example), sometimes when you see the choice you won't see all of the options (again, too corrupt or not enough, etc.). Sometimes your points will drive what Anna, etc. , says in the story. The points/flags do matter.

I've played with "pure" MC/faithful Anna, corrupt MC/faithful Anna, corrupt MC/slut Anna. Additionally checked the walkthrough and still don't see it.

When is Anna unable to take part in a potential cheating event (that the player always needs to force to begin with) because of something the MC said/did rather than because of Anna's previous choices? Which Anna cheating event plays out differently (beyond just different flavor text/commentary) because of something the MC said/did rather than because of Anna's previous choices?

 

[AlfredBundy4]

Watch out, the cattle, I mean the L$P fans, will come after you.
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Here at least things are progressing little by little.
Maybe in 2027 we'll see Anna having sex. And without her clothes.

Not concerned, I've called them mindless sheep for years now. Absolute rubes that allow him to blatantly scam them in order to bust every 6 months lol. It's pathetic.

Sadly, if the dev was actually decent and not a liar it could be amazing. Everything is there for an A+, story and VN but the dev is trash.

APM is miles better but I do see it slowly slipping more and more into "stall and milk" territory. AWAM will do shit like release an update that's

"Day 19, hour 6, second route of event 3...PART 1 OF 8"

And rather than tell this asshole that NOBODY needs 40 years to tell their dumbass porn story, they eat it up. They complain but don't leave or try to get others to see how fucked up it is. That one jackoff session every 6 months has them ignoring the awful facts of it all.

If Palmer takes APM into that BS, I'll bounce on this as well. If the updates get more and more scarce as they release more and more "Part 1 of 4" updates on a single event, I'll stop following this VN and come back every so often to shit on it like do AWAM lol.

For now I think APM is fine, just concerning patterns emerging lately.

 

[Dolphine KIIV]

Anna's situation at the office.