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I've seen your posts on his page. They come across as complaints, not constructive feedback. When are we getting an update? Why is it taking so long? It shouldn't take this long. Why don't you get more help?

There is nothing about that kind of feedback that will cause the developer to release the update sooner. It's a waste of time.
sslovoe has every right to complain. Hes paying and getting nothing in return. This is normal to ask why so long and what is the cause of it. When its taking double the length of time for an update. Yet there is no reason given by the dev. Palmer even saying months ago that he was over 90% finished.

It doesn't have to be constructive criticism when the dev is stalling and given only small ridiculous excuses for something that should have been completed months ago. We know from years of him making this game that updates only take 2-3 months each time. So he is making double the amount of money now by spreading the work out over 6 months. Then because Palmer is scared of people that will call him out for this behavior and stating the truth on patreon, he bans them. Awful!!
 

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sslovoe has every right to complain. Hes paying and getting nothing in return. This is normal to ask why so long and what is the cause of it. When its taking double the length of time for an update. Yet there is no reason given by the dev. Palmer even saying months ago that he was over 90% finished.

It doesn't have to be constructive criticism when the dev is stalling and given only small ridiculous excuses for something that should have been completed months ago. We know from years of him making this game that updates only take 2-3 months each time. So he is making double the amount of money now by spreading the work out over 6 months. Then because Palmer is scared of people that will call him out for this behavior and stating the truth on patreon, he bans them. Awful!!
It seems incredible to me, but remember that this project is voluntary, it is not mandatory that you have to comply but which has a commitment because it has people who pay, it is also sporadic, you could even say it is intermittent but in short it is not obliged to comply, but if you have the exception to do it because it is committed.
 

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I totally agree with you that there a bunch of ass kissing subscribers that think Mr. Palmer does no wrong. Makes me cringe. That said, people that complain all the time are just as fucking annoying.

I've seen your posts on his page. They come across as complaints, not constructive feedback. When are we getting an update? Why is it taking so long? It shouldn't take this long. Why don't you get more help?

There is nothing about that kind of feedback that will cause the developer to release the update sooner. It's a waste of time.

The "haters," as you call them (some of them the above mentioned ass kissers) don't want to hear it. That's why they are coming at you.

I also agree with you that's it taking too long for this update and I am equally frustrated. If this update is less than stellar than i will have to rethink my support.
Even if people complain... without being constructive, they have right to complain. I have seen many posts in other threads where members say that if you're not paying the developer then don't complain as freebies...but here he doesn't even want to listen to the complaint from those who are paying him. That's double standard. He only wants an audience who praise him no matter what he do.

Now it's more clear like:
1. No sex
2. No defined timeline for update.

If after knowing these 2 things, anyone wants to support him then do it.
 
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told you ....his community is full of AWAM like supporters...MP turned to LP ....no point to argue there...if you complain here, they will say no right for freebies...if you pay and complain they will be like if you dont like then unsubscribe lol...it's more like if you like superslow corruption with alot of excuses same as his delay then go for it. There is no point to criticize the one who doesn't want to improve. They will argue with you and force you to be blind follower...more like if you like the story then be happy with whatever the developer provide. No need to point back...you can only complain about little things which doesn't affect the story like ohh Anna dress should be short/hot, we want more cleavage dress etc... MP will listen to these kind of complaints.
I think the major issue here is not super slow corruption, it's about the constant delays that occur everytime and it's hindering the enjoyment of the overall experience that's why subscribers become impatient and start comparing it to awam. I think it resembles awam a bit in the corruption process but it's still way faster and it only appears so if you consider the number of updates so far. So if mp start releasing every 2 months you'll see that it's not that slow compared to awam. Yeah so the only really slow thing is mp's production and that's it. That's what sslove was complaining about and got banned even though it's his right to ask about it.
 

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Patronite is a site which will slowly corrupt almost everyone. Same fucking shit happens everytime with everyone.
The only solution I see:


1. Strict time frame for the update, if overdue - no further payment.

2. Pay for the update only.


The biggest mistake is to continuously pay and having hope that supported Dev is honest.
 
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Couto25

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I think the major issue here is not super slow corruption, it's about the constant delays that occur everytime and it's hindering the enjoyment of the overall experience that's why subscribers become impatient and start comparing it to awam. I think it resembles awam a bit in the corruption process but it's still way faster and it only appears so if you consider the number of updates so far. So if mp start releasing every 2 months you'll see that it's not that slow compared to awam. Yeah so the only really slow thing is mp's production and that's it. That's what sslove was complaining about and got banned even though it's his right to ask about it.
That was the goal to differ it from AWAM...faster updates + no lesbian content. That was major selling point of this VN...But if you compare now after Ch3...AWAM release almost 2 updates by the time APM release 1 update. That was the issue with AWAM for few years too during dylan update, the one where he changed sophia etc....even ellie one..dylan one took like 6-7 months....where he changed sophia he took time there too....and ellie one was short with/without logan the renders were almost same still I feel he took 2-3 weeks more. and moreover LP was working alone, here MP has artist, production should be faster. But in the end if you see the result..it's almost same delay in update+ slow corruption. AWAM subscribers also defended LP if you scroll up few years back by saying the problem is not slow corruption, it's production speed few years back....Now LP production speed is good as compared to few years back I can say, but renders decreased and yea slow corruption stays..the story didn't reached to sex point yet as he's trolling with multiple routes. I guess with MP the history will repeat.
 

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the name of this game actually gave me a laugh somewhat. when i ponder the thought, when are marriages perfect? some can be amazing but some can also be difficult to go through.
 
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It seems incredible to me, but remember that this project is voluntary, it is not mandatory that you have to comply but which has a commitment because it has people who pay, it is also sporadic, you could even say it is intermittent but in short it is not obliged to comply, but if you have the exception to do it because it is committed.
You're missing the point. There is an understanding that updates will release at a certain time. Its even stated on Palmers patreon description. Yet it keeps getting longer. From 1-2, 2-3, now it says 3-4 months. So people donating are expecting it and now its very late, as thats what they have been told by the developer. Soon it will say every 6-7 months.

If you are paying for a service but don't receive the goods or able to view it, then that is wrong. Supporters have every right to question why it is not there. How you are defending the dev or patreon payments is irrelevant when we all know what is expected as its written on his patreon. Simps pay to blindly donate. Supporters pay with an expectation, which is most of them. Without them there would be no game, as he wouldn't bother without getting paid. So Palmer must address the issues and stop banning people or staying silent when someone questions him. He dug his own hole.
 

Couto25

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Patronite is a site which will slowly corrupt almost everyone. Same fucking shit happens everytime with everyone.
The only solution I see:


1. Strict time frame for the update, if overdue - no further payment.

2. Pay for the update only.


The biggest mistake is to continuously pay and having hope that supported Dev is honest.
For this VN yup, pay only for update if anyone is curious about the story as timeline is not defined..and if someone looking for action then wait until sex happens for the first time then start supporting developer. Until that time enjoy free mode...sneak peek is not worth it neither the developer ask for what users wants to see story wise.. it's dress choice mostly....he did asked for vote for antagonists previously....those vote mostly end up in blueball tease scenes. It doesn't change the story, it just show which antagonist will get most blueballs tease with Ana.

What I find most unfair for sslove is not MP can't accept criticism but MP took the money until the last month of development and blocked him. He heard his criticism until last month of development n blocked him few weeks before update gonna launch
 
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sslovoe has every right to complain. Hes paying and getting nothing in return. This is normal to ask why so long and what is the cause of it. When its taking double the length of time for an update. Yet there is no reason given by the dev. Palmer even saying months ago that he was over 90% finished.

It doesn't have to be constructive criticism when the dev is stalling and given only small ridiculous excuses for something that should have been completed months ago. We know from years of him making this game that updates only take 2-3 months each time. So he is making double the amount of money now by spreading the work out over 6 months. Then because Palmer is scared of people that will call him out for this behavior and stating the truth on patreon, he bans them. Awful!!
I don't disagree. If you're a paying customer and you want to complain, complain. Knock yourself out.

That said, when you realize your complaints, frustrations,etc., are not being heard by the developer, or you're simply not satisfied with the return you're getting on your investment then maybe you need to reconsider your support.

If you're really pissed ask for refund. Maybe you'll get it. Doesn't hurt to ask. I've heard developers say they would rather give you a refund than have customers stick around and give them grief.
 
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I don't disagree. If you're a paying customer and you want to complain, complain. Knock yourself out.

That said, when you realize your complaints, frustrations,etc., are not being heard by the developer, or you're simply not satisfied with the return you're getting on your investment then maybe you need to reconsider your support.

If you're really pissed ask for refund. Maybe you'll get it. Doesn't hurt to ask. I've heard developers say they would rather give you a refund than have customers stick around and give them grief.
That's a terrible attitude. If they dont get what is promised, then to leave? You sound like Palmer in disguise. They should still get this update even for free now. Its not like they don't like the game. They don't like the way the developer is operating, wanting explanations and for it to change and go back to normal. That is a very reasonable thing to want. Instead of getting any meaningful answers from the developer, there is excuses or silence. Basically devs keeping them on the hook with false promises. Pay is monthly, so maybe if after 3 months there is no change then stop donating. Blame the dev for making it seem like an update is coming, when in reality they milk the timing constantly.
Otherwise its needed to complain when you see a developer is saying and promising some things but doing another.

You act like when someone has to constantly complain its their fault. Yet you don't say anything about what the developer is doing. I see this so much. Supporters getting defensive as they are paying and don't want to believe that their money is being wasted and they are being scammed. Well sorry but thats happening right now!
 

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I don't disagree. If you're a paying customer and you want to complain, complain. Knock yourself out.

That said, when you realize your complaints, frustrations,etc., are not being heard by the developer, or you're simply not satisfied with the return you're getting on your investment then maybe you need to reconsider your support.

If you're really pissed ask for refund. Maybe you'll get it. Doesn't hurt to ask. I've heard developers say they would rather give you a refund than have customers stick around and give them grief.
"You're complaining on a pirate website? haha the jokes is on you.

What? what do you say? you're actually paying.

Uugh, umm well, how about... COMPLAIN AND KNOCK YOURSELF OUT!

if that wasn't enough, ASK FOR REFUND!

and stop bothering our Fluid Mommy and giving her grief! don't you read before buying? ugh"
 
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