Couto25

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Just one thing to subscribers....Don't ask MP to release after 4 months with whatever work has been done...I guess MP might look for excuse to launch half a day story update in future and let audience get use to it...so no matter how much time it takes, let him complete the whole day storyline. He's slow so he'll probably take 6 months time anyways....like for 7.5a and 7.5b..he took like 5 months time in total, he could have launched it together after a month... If he would have launched 7.5a and b together, that update would have been better than 100 renders update in 2 parts...blueballs but tolerable.. he might have taken a few renders out, and launched with less renders than whatever artist might have provided to him.

So yes, He's lazy, he's slow, he'll give all the reason to delay...holidays, work, trump, hobbyist and everything...He'll always look for excuse to delay....But, I don't want him to follow AWAM path to divide a full day storyline in 2/3 parts of seperate blueballs events depending on paths we choose...it wont be interesting....and if he see that people are getting fine with half day storyline updates, then the the main story will move much more slower and might take 3/4 more years to complete...and the trolling process to corrupt Anna with side storyline upto sex will take much more time. There might be different events in different paths in future, so let him take 5/6 months of time...but provide full day storyline.
 
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PureoSpice

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Every AI I've ever made has had problems. Some hardly noticeable, some completely hilarious. It is a process and sometimes you need to regenerate it several times or change the prompt to get better results.
I agree with you some ppl may think AI is easy well at some point it is! ”after you learn it and know how to proper handle it” but without creativity your work will look cringe as fuck.That's where the AI hate of ppl came from cuz some of the AI users are lack of creativity and thinks that Ai is just giving a simple order(prompt). Sometimes it is more likely to use multiple tools at a Time just for one work to look decent.
 
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Just one thing to subscribers....Don't ask MP to release after 4 months with whatever work has been done...I guess MP might look for excuse to launch half a day story update in future and let audience get use to it...so no matter how much time it takes, let him complete the whole day storyline. He's slow so he'll probably take 6 months time anyways....like for 7.5a and 7.5b..he took like 5 months time in total, he could have launched it together after a month... If he would have launched 7.5a and b together, that update would have been better than 100 renders update in 2 parts...blueballs but tolerable.. he might have taken a few renders out, and launched with less renders than whatever artist might have provided to him.

So yes, He's lazy, he's slow, he'll give all the reason to delay...holidays, work, trump, hobbyist and everything...He'll always look for excuse to delay....But, I don't want him to follow AWAM path to divide a full day storyline in 2/3 parts of seperate blueballs events depending on paths we choose...it wont be interesting....and if he see that people are getting fine with half day storyline updates, then the the main story will move much more slower and might take 3/4 more years to complete...and the trolling process to corrupt Anna with side storyline upto sex will take much more time. There might be different events in different paths in future, so let him take 5/6 months of time...but provide full day storyline.
These guys have got to be aware that with the AI asteroid fast approaching, their days are numbered. Maybe a few more years tops.
 

Sharpx23

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in all these games the AI scenes are horrible, and i just mash skip/ctrl to get to the artist rendered scene. animation is usually the same too, nobody really wants your shit animations unless they are 300 million dollar worth blockbuster movie quality. and nobody wants your shit AI animation which is usually worse than your custom made animations. in other words fuck off, and save dev time by not including these stupid scenes. the most high quality art is the 'still images' renders that a human being creates entirely, that's all most people want to see.
 

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in all these games the AI scenes are horrible, and i just mash skip/ctrl to get to the artist rendered scene. animation is usually the same too, nobody really wants your shit animations unless they are 300 million dollar worth blockbuster movie quality. and nobody wants your shit AI animation which is usually worse than your custom made animations. in other words fuck off, and save dev time by not including these stupid scenes. the most high quality art is the 'still images' renders that a human being creates entirely, that's all most people want to see.

Generally agree but hand artists said the same about Blender, Maya & Daz. Some still do and all those were dogshit at first as well.


We're still just at the beginning of it all and I agree that it's way overused. 75% of all new game posts are AI phone sim slop. No idea why that's such a big genre.
But in order I'd take:
No animations, AI animations, dev made animations.

Why? As you said, time. Don't waste weeks or months making 3 second loop animations when the actual story/update is ready. If you can take a day to whip up some good AI animations, fine. The dev made animations can be great but they take forever. Never worth the time needed even when good.
 

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in all these games the AI scenes are horrible, and i just mash skip/ctrl to get to the artist rendered scene. animation is usually the same too, nobody really wants your shit animations unless they are 300 million dollar worth blockbuster movie quality. and nobody wants your shit AI animation which is usually worse than your custom made animations. in other words fuck off, and save dev time by not including these stupid scenes. the most high quality art is the 'still images' renders that a human being creates entirely, that's all most people want to see.
Such a well composed, reasoned and logical point of view, so eloquently delivered.

I'm certain the dev has taken on board every single word of that.
 
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Couto25

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in all these games the AI scenes are horrible, and i just mash skip/ctrl to get to the artist rendered scene. animation is usually the same too, nobody really wants your shit animations unless they are 300 million dollar worth blockbuster movie quality. and nobody wants your shit AI animation which is usually worse than your custom made animations. in other words fuck off, and save dev time by not including these stupid scenes. the most high quality art is the 'still images' renders that a human being creates entirely, that's all most people want to see.
Yo what are you yapping about....from May 2022 till now this VN gives only blueballs with or without animation. AI is good for those developer who wants to finish the render part quicker so that they can work on programming...Here the developer has all the time in the world...MP will let the earth rotate the sun and thn he will provide the update. He'll still give same 5 renders tease scene with 100 dialogues per image. for him AI is of least concern.

And about AI, if the technology ease the workload then why don't you use it? It must be some stupid who will say ohh I dont want computer to make renders, i will draw the art with my own hands in the paper and move those still images to show animation like disney cartoon in 1950s.....dude. Like it or not, with time, technology will improve so either get use to it or keep crying about it. Few years later you will see this AI animation will almost reach close to real.

If you are so real then create colors and paint brush by yourself before drawing from woods rather than buying those from a market. Human made AI and other technologies. Artist can use anything to ease their process to show whatever they want. I can also say those who doesn't know how to make paper and brush are not artists. And if someone doesn't write hand written letter and send it to the developer himself, their criticism will not count. Because for posting too you are using internet technology. I think when this VN launched for the first time, there was almost no AI used commercially , now almost all are using it...and it's good they are getting used to new tech.....this AI will only improve with time...where the developer can use same command to get better results so it's good for them to learn it earlier on.
 
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in all these games the AI scenes are horrible, and i just mash skip/ctrl to get to the artist rendered scene. animation is usually the same too, nobody really wants your shit animations unless they are 300 million dollar worth blockbuster movie quality. and nobody wants your shit AI animation which is usually worse than your custom made animations. in other words fuck off, and save dev time by not including these stupid scenes. the most high quality art is the 'still images' renders that a human being creates entirely, that's all most people want to see.
Not sure what games you are referring to - sure there can be some rough transitions as the Dev learns AI, but, overall, I think it great. Not too far off we will begin to see near video quality animations. I've seen some AI on these VNs that are damn close. I'm sure there will be some VNs out there for purists, but the momentum is very much on the side of AI animations. May want to make peace with it or just continue to fap to a Manga comic.
 

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Anna will let any man who comes after her have a piece of her at this point in the story. She’s always been a slut, at least at heart, getting her little adrenaline rushes from imagining herself breaking the “chains” of her father and, presumably, the culture she grew up in. Likely a conservative, small-town American household.

But the twist is that she lets the men who pursue her aggressively but pathetically (Marvin, Chip ’n’ Dale) get closer faster than the ones with a bit more personality (Jake, Chris). Anna, in particular, is drawn to doing dirty things, and what’s dirtier than a random, filthy old man with no personality wanting you more than anything in the world? Without a real sense of self, there isn’t much to talk about; it’s straight to the action.

Anyway, this little “opinionated analysis” at least helps me digest whatever the devs have been cooking lately. I got into APM years ago, impressed by the creator’s vision. There weren’t many well-written stories in the “zone” back then. But he betrayed his own foundation by paying less attention to it. Still, after being in it two or three years deep, I can’t escape now. So I make things up in my head to make sense of it all.
 

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Anna will let any man who comes after her have a piece of her at this point in the story. She’s always been a slut, at least at heart, getting her little adrenaline rushes from imagining herself breaking the “chains” of her father and, presumably, the culture she grew up in. Likely a conservative, small-town American household.

But the twist is that she lets the men who pursue her aggressively but pathetically (Marvin, Chip ’n’ Dale) get closer faster than the ones with a bit more personality (Jake, Chris). Anna, in particular, is drawn to doing dirty things, and what’s dirtier than a random, filthy old man with no personality wanting you more than anything in the world? Without a real sense of self, there isn’t much to talk about; it’s straight to the action.

Anyway, this little “opinionated analysis” at least helps me digest whatever the devs have been cooking lately. I got into APM years ago, impressed by the creator’s vision. There weren’t many well-written stories in the “zone” back then. But he betrayed his own foundation by paying less attention to it. Still, after being in it two or three years deep, I can’t escape now. So I make things up in my head to make sense of it all.
Thats precisely what i feel too!
 
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