VN Ren'Py A Promise Best Left Unkept - Aya Edition [v0.7.3] [Hangover Cat]

[ChroshYmpact123]

Nahh having a gooner's debate on a netorare game forum is crazyyy. it's not that deep.

 

[ZUBiDAM]

In a game with multiple endings, why is such an outcome not possible? And let’s remember that at the very beginning of this project the cat had a vote on which "story line" about Aya the fans want to see, corruption or love (or, i don’t remember exactly, the ending). Yes, most voted for corruption, but 40%+ voted for love! It turns out that the dev doesn’t give a damn about the opinions of his fans, those people who pay him, he only satisfies the needs of the majority, those people who only want to see humiliation, etc.
I don't hint or talk about how he should make his games, but many people hoped that the story about Aya might be different - but in fact, this is the same story, no more no less!
Wouldn't it be better to make a new full-fledged story with new characters in a new universe (even with aliens - why not)?
I can understand the fans who are ready to watch the prequel of the series House of Dragons, but here are the same fans who want to see only humiliation and pain in which wrapper it will not matter to them, and this is what the cat takes advantage of - why create something new if you can milk the old one!

i still don't understand what do you mean by "new"
it seems like you just don't like NTR since you want a "love" route.
I'm not sure which poll are you referring to but it was probably about having a good ending.
if there was only a "love" route then it would be even less original, what is even there to add?
NTR adds complexity, the "love" i think you mean already exists in the game- the first few updates where Harry's gets over laura and falls in love with aya, how should it end? with them having loving sex? with harry starting to call aya 'bunny'? with them officially going out in front of everyone in the office?
because all of that already happened, if the game ended there right after some kind of revenge against luca, would it be the love route you mean?

 

[ItsNotUs]

i still don't understand what do you mean by "new"
it seems like you just don't like NTR since you want a "love" route.
I'm not sure which poll are you referring to but it was probably about having a good ending.
if there was only a "love" route then it would be even less original, what is even there to add?
NTR adds complexity, the "love" i think you mean already exists in the game- the first few updates where Harry's gets over laura and falls in love with aya, how should it end? with them having loving sex? with harry starting to call aya 'bunny'? with them officially going out in front of everyone in the office?
because all of that already happened, if the game ended there right after some kind of revenge against luca, would it be the love route you mean? View attachment 4497560

I don't mean the "love path"! Obviously this is not for this dev, he doesn’t know how to make "love"! Let the same have a "good ending", one of the bad ones, what's so bad about it?
I mean the variability and attitude of people towards Aya as a character - some treated or treat her much warmer than Laura!
Remembering the original story, Laura became simply unbearable after several endings, "people" stopped loving her - the hope for a more positive character fell on Aya’s shoulders, but...
The dev, as in the first game, trolled people (and among them there were his fans) with a good ending, he even did it in one of the endings, after such an attitude the desire to play his games simply disappeared! Now with his post about Aya, he’s doing exactly the same thing, and wait, maybe he’ll even do something similar in one of the endings if there are several of them!

I’m not comparing the game and reality, but even in real life, sometimes there is a way out of very difficult-hard situations, in his games there is no way out, just a small illusion! What then is the point - to look only at humiliation? 42% Voted for a good ending for Aya, will he make it at all, will he make it really good or again in his joke-troll form?

 

[ZUBiDAM]

I don't mean the "love path"! Obviously this is not for this dev, he doesn’t know how to make "love"! Let the same have a "good ending", one of the bad ones, what's so bad about it?
I mean the variability and attitude of people towards Aya as a character - some treated or treat her much warmer than Laura!
Remembering the original story, Laura became simply unbearable after several endings, "people" stopped loving her - the hope for a more positive character fell on Aya’s shoulders, but...
The dev, as in the first game, trolled people (and among them there were his fans) with a good ending, he even did it in one of the endings, after such an attitude the desire to play his games simply disappeared! Now with his post about Aya, he’s doing exactly the same thing, and wait, maybe he’ll even do something similar in one of the endings if there are several of them!

I’m not comparing the game and reality, but even in real life, sometimes there is a way out of very difficult-hard situations, in his games there is no way out, just a small illusion! What then is the point - to look only at humiliation? 42% Voted for a good ending for Aya, will he make it at all, will he make it really good or again in his joke-troll form?

not sure what you mean, in the original game the good ending for laura might have not been what everyone wished for but it had a bunch of good endings with aya, that's one of the reasons the aya version came to be- there wasn't any "bad ending" for aya which is what most ntr fans came to see.

even in real life, sometimes there is a way out of very difficult-hard situations, in his games there is no way out, just a small illusion! What then is the point - to look only at humiliation?

this how you feel but i can say as an NTR fan that i feel exactly the opposite, in most fiction no matter how difficult the situation is becoming there is always a way out! you will know that it's only an illusion and the hero will triumph in the end, so what's the point? only to see some boring vanilla?

even if the good ending lost in the vote there is still a chance the cat will surprise us like he did before with the aya endings in the original verison.
so i wouldn't say it's set in stone.

 

[ItsNotUs]

not sure what you mean, in the original game the good ending for laura might have not been what everyone wished for but it had a bunch of good endings with aya, that's one of the reasons the aya version came to be- there wasn't any "bad ending" for aya which is what most ntr fans came to see.

this how you feel but i can say as an NTR fan that i feel exactly the opposite, in most fiction no matter how difficult the situation is becoming there is always a way out! you will know that it's only an illusion and the hero will triumph in the end, so what's the point? only to see some boring vanilla?

even if the good ending lost in the vote there is still a chance the cat will surprise us like he did before with the aya endings in the original verison.
so i wouldn't say it's set in stone.

What is the point of this then - if all this was in the first game?
I initially asked him a question about his "writing" and why not make a new game with new heroes in a new setting, etc. not those crafts that multiply due to AIs, but something new! That's it!
There is a NTR games where the MC follows two paths: in one path he warns his beloved from falling, in the other he allows her to fall. In the first option it's a happy ending (love), in the second option it's complete corruption and the MC woman goes to the antagonist, but there's also a third option when the MC makes a 50/50 choice and in the end his woman is still with him, she loves him, but secretly cheats on him behind his back - here's a small example of variability! And when you get 10 endings of Harry's suffering and then what kind of joke(good) endings are these that you had to wait for more than a year! What's interesting?

 

[xcalibar4]

I really liked this raac story :

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(As a raac story I didn't thought it'll end this way.)
Actually I have read few stories from this author (Richard Gerald) after reading his one of the more popular story

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What I found interesting about his endings are it's not about a cuck getting revenge but the consequence of all the characters choices. And most times the endings aren't good to any of them.

I think most NTR specially western NTR game has exactly same ending and I think that is why in original game the Main Aya Ending and the Oyakodon Ending were loved by many as they were different than your typical same endings. I hope the dev will surprise us many ways Till now only one ending I can think of where Harry is a submissive pet Husband to Sadist Aya while she is Masochistic Lover to Luca.

 

[ZUBiDAM]

What is the point of this then - if all this was in the first game?
I initially asked him a question about his "writing" and why not make a new game with new heroes in a new setting, etc. not those crafts that multiply due to AIs, but something new! That's it!
There is a NTR games where the MC follows two paths: in one path he warns his beloved from falling, in the other he allows her to fall. In the first option it's a happy ending (love), in the second option it's complete corruption and the MC woman goes to the antagonist, but there's also a third option when the MC makes a 50/50 choice and in the end his woman is still with him, she loves him, but secretly cheats on him behind his back - here's a small example of variability! And when you get 10 endings of Harry's suffering and then what kind of joke(good) endings are these that you had to wait for more than a year! What's interesting?

not sure what you mean about the third option, if she loves him then she wouldn't cheat on him, this option exists in the original game as the family ending- where she continues to cheat with luca while harry never realizes.
again, your problem seem to be with ntr itself not the writing, the "love option" where mc allows hid women to fall is not ntr, it's called netorase, cuckolding.
there is nothing original about that, again it seems to have less complexity than ntr.
you define what original is based on how it ends but that not i think it should be defined because it narrows down many fictions and most would be identical according to this method.
the journey itself, the corruption of the heroine is what is original.
in that regard the aya version is completely different than Laura's version, and it's definitely not "magic big dick", apblu is definitely not like that unlike many works on this site.
there isn't a single scene where the heroine just sees luca naked and starts lusting over him as part of the corruption, it's mostly psychological.

 

[Requiem1102]

Im lowkey just enjoying the discussion just for Aya and laura to end up pregnant next update with Harry crying as usual lol

 

[ItsNotUs]

not sure what you mean about the third option, if she loves him then she wouldn't cheat on him, this option exists in the original game as the family ending- where she continues to cheat with luca while harry never realizes.
again, your problem seem to be with ntr itself not the writing, the "love option" where mc allows hid women to fall is not ntr, it's called netorase, cuckolding.
there is nothing original about that, again it seems to have less complexity than ntr.
you define what original is based on how it ends but that not i think it should be defined because it narrows down many fictions and most would be identical according to this method.
the journey itself, the corruption of the heroine is what is original.
in that regard the aya version is completely different than Laura's version, and it's definitely not "magic big dick", apblu is definitely not like that unlike many works on this site.
there isn't a single scene where the heroine just sees luca naked and starts lusting over him as part of the corruption, it's mostly psychological.

What does netoras and cuckolding have to do with it? I said that MС’s choice means that the third ending is 50/50, he doesn’t know that she’s cheating on him and she loves him, but she also loves to go left! What does it have to do with likes and dislikes for NTR? I write about variability! About a new story! The variation in this story is that instead of Laura is Aya, that's it! If someone is happy about this, then the flag is in his hands!

If a cat doesn’t give a damn about 42 percent of the votes of his subscribers, he doesn’t even hesitate to talk about it on the forum and someone even welcomes it - that I don’t!

 

[ZUBiDAM]

What does netoras and cuckolding have to do with it? I said that MС’s choice means that the third ending is 50/50, he doesn’t know that she’s cheating on him and she loves him, but she also loves to go left! What does it have to do with likes and dislikes for NTR? I write about variability! About a new story! The variation in this story is that instead of Laura is Aya, that's it! If someone is happy about this, then the flag is in his hands!

If a cat doesn’t give a damn about 42 percent of the votes of his subscribers, he doesn’t even hesitate to talk about it on the forum and someone even welcomes it - that I don’t!

i still don't understand how are you not seeing that your definition of "story" is just the most simplified description of an ending.
you can do the same to many fiction works:
pretty much every super hero story- the hero defeated the bad guy.
most horror movies- main character survives
etc...
and this is a story for porn, which means it's further limited, you can expect it to involve relationships and sex.
if you look at the content itself and not just the simplified description of the ending then it's different than Laura's routes, besides simplifing it to "mc girlfriend (aya/laura) having sex with antagonist(luca) behind MC's back"- which is already a bit more complex than the usual on this site- "mc having sex"/"female mc being a slut"

 

[FoutL]

I dont even want a good end where Aya somehow ends up with Harry again but an ending where both Aya and Luca have some sort of karma would be good where Harry is also left with nothing.

 

[mizukixjoel]

Por favor, Android 7.3

 

[Chinel]

I don't really comment about the characters more because my opinions became clear last time.
If I would think about what should happen, well, basically murdering Harry because 'cuckboy' (that being the automatic reason for his murder) ensuring Luca, Laura and Aya take the fall, and putting in a way in which the state could not corrupt itself on 'saving them'.

They are all horrible.

 

[desmosome]

I don't mean the "love path"! Obviously this is not for this dev, he doesn’t know how to make "love"! Let the same have a "good ending", one of the bad ones, what's so bad about it?
I mean the variability and attitude of people towards Aya as a character - some treated or treat her much warmer than Laura!
Remembering the original story, Laura became simply unbearable after several endings, "people" stopped loving her - the hope for a more positive character fell on Aya’s shoulders, but...
The dev, as in the first game, trolled people (and among them there were his fans) with a good ending, he even did it in one of the endings, after such an attitude the desire to play his games simply disappeared! Now with his post about Aya, he’s doing exactly the same thing, and wait, maybe he’ll even do something similar in one of the endings if there are several of them!

I’m not comparing the game and reality, but even in real life, sometimes there is a way out of very difficult-hard situations, in his games there is no way out, just a small illusion! What then is the point - to look only at humiliation? 42% Voted for a good ending for Aya, will he make it at all, will he make it really good or again in his joke-troll form?

This dude looking for love in NTR games lol. A true cuck indeed.

 

[HangoverCat]

- The emotions people feel are always valid.

Nop. Most people are retards, and you cannot survive as a developer by listening to what everybody wants. I have my vision. I will write my stories in a way where I think it best elevates the kink, and if it fails, it fails. That's what we call capitalism. Lots of people here don't understand NTR and the arguments they are trying to make are laughable to anyone who understands the kink.

 

[ItsNotUs]

This dude looking for love in NTR games lol. A true cuck indeed.

This mfker A true cuck indeed - Did you look in the mirror? You don’t have to answer, and it’s clear that you’re! Ыweating from the humiliation that MС is experiencing / xd
Enjoy and make sure your mom doesn’t scold you for stains on your pants!

 

[Terix3]

Sky is falling means Aya must have humiliated Harry putting nail to ntr.
And who would it be if not mr "I play ntr for good ending" leading the charge.

 

[Zasor]

Imagine growing attached to netorare characters you start demanding shit.