VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus S2 Ep 9-11] [Hangover Cat]

[dan9000]

If you go to Extras on the main menu, there is an Endings section with a list of all endings and what choices to make to get them. Currently there is only one ending done, and another being worked on (alternative of the first ending).

no i mea, that after the 2 options of go after aya or support laura i always get the this ending is not implemented yet, i dont know what im doing wrong and how can i continue?

 

[SpyderArachnid]

no i mea, that after the 2 options of go after aya or support laura i always get the this ending is not implemented yet, i dont know what im doing wrong and how can i continue?

It's exactly as it says. That ending is not implemented yet.

Like I said, there is only one ending done and another being worked on (alternative to the first ending). The rest of the paths are not done yet, so if you make choices that are not on those paths I mentioned, then you'll get that message (ending not implemented yet).

 

[gilbertus27]

Does anybody have a save file pls?

 

[TheBigWater]

I'm missing something or there is no content with the other one girl?

 

[Brazilian Engrish]

Ohw. Already leaked?! Well, I think its karma. You cant do a ntr game without being ntred in the process. Since i didnt play this normal (canon) ending yet, ill probably skip this one too.

I played on steam the other game (non porn) from HC "her lie I try to believe" or something like that. The comments were very positive so I decided to give it a try. You start reading and dont want to stop. I recommend it to anyone who hasnt played yet.
ps: HC really likes broken characters.

 

[HangoverCat]

Guys, I understand all of your points regarding piracy, but I just don’t think this conversation is going anywhere. My biggest concern has always been more about my Patrons not being able to enjoy their privileges, not piracy in and of itself. It does suck to lose money, but it sucks a lot more to let the ones supporting me down.

I know some people talked about DRM, but I personally think it’s anti-consumer. I’m the kind of person who believes that giving incentives is a lot more productive than taking privileges away. Unfortunately for me, I just don’t have much more to give (at least, for now).

 

[Animefan_09]

Soooo this is me trying to get back on course, what are your opinions on the latest update, i think the main difference in both routes is that in the previous one Laura gave up totally, wich is why we didn't see much of the in between as now, meanwhile in the newest one i think its going to end with a similar result (totally fallen) but here Laura actually is still fighting, or like in denial (saying she still loves Harry for example).

Hell she may end up more corrupted since now in her mind she will convince herself she tried and that its Harry's fault or something xD

 

[gordon101]

Don't just throw out a blanket statement that all piracy is wrong in all situations, because that is absolutely false. There are 2 situations where VG piracy is not only perfectly ok but is actually the morally correct thing to do.
1. Pirating a game that you cannot legitimately purchase in your region/country because the developers have not released it there or because of idiotic censorship laws.
2. Pirating a game that is no longer supported/is abandonware, and even if you could purchase it the money is no longer going to the original developers.

2. That's Ubisoft and Nintendo in a nutshell, that don't want back up their game history it pisses me off

 

[gordon101]

Guys, I understand all of your points regarding piracy, but I just don’t think this conversation is going anywhere. My biggest concern has always been more about my Patrons not being able to enjoy their privileges, not piracy in and of itself. It does suck to lose money, but it sucks a lot more to let the ones supporting me down.

I know some people talked about DRM, but I personally think it’s anti-consumer. I’m the kind of person who believes that giving incentives is a lot more productive than taking privileges away. Unfortunately for me, I just don’t have much more to give (at least, for now).

then that's something you have to deal with, when anything is available on internet, will be pirated end of story

 

[gordon101]

People do bring this up it seems, but what is the best way? Currently this website is the best way, and no one is really bringing up an alternative beyond "Yeah, but there might be a better way". And yes, there are definitely places where they don't tolerate piracy and still gets discussion and if this place did that, then yeah it could work, but if you removed the free games portion you wouldn't have anywhere near as many hits or people going here. Even among regular games, a very small percentage of people playing games would join in the discussion on forums around those games. That percentage is most definitely going to be lower for porn games as post ejaculation they aren't going to be nearly as interested to discuss porn related things. Also I don't think bringing up console games, Apple stuff is all the relevant when we're talking about what is still a very small niche compared to those. The userbase for those are millions upon millions and even if 0.01% talked about it'd still be a significant portion.




Again with the dev should have a choice, like man, just because you think so, doesn't make it come any close to happening. Like I said, piracy is always going to be there. Most devs accept it as it's just not going to go away unless the internet radically changes and uses it instead to their advantage, like large scale feedback for example. My point has always been that it's inevitable and I said people ignore the boost of publicity that comes with being on this website, or rather, that publicity boost means he can get a following earlier and therefore start to make money a lot earlier than he otherwise would be able to. Not saying he couldn't have reached the current income point on his own, just that it'd be far slower. Oh and also how amusing it is to argue against piracy on a piracy forum. Especially going as far as to advocate for DRM which is largely seen as scummy, even more so than actual piracy at times. Usually just hindering the people actually paying more than the pirates.

Also it's nice that you did bring up some numbers, but there are two problems with them, one as you mention, that is definitely not a popular host and second, the game wasn't received very well at all. I looked into that game too, but ignored it because it looked like crap, despite being from Alicesoft. So I looked, but didn't download. Also there are two files for that host, 6 + 7k, so 13k, not 7k total. 13k for just one host and it's one of the least popular ones when total views are 266k. So if anything, you're proving my point. It's of course not going to reach the views, but it'd end up to be a decently sized portion in the end.

Also bringing up NTRman doesn't work either because his games were not banned at the start and when it did get removed he already had a sizeable following. The point of bringing up publicity coming from this website is always going to have its biggest effect when they're small and doesn't have an audience, later on when it does, the benefits get smaller. As for Fleeting Iris, I'm pretty sure that was already around when KAT was around, so basically it was on this websites precursor. Hence it was also given publicity. Albeit less so as there weren't nearly as many games around, and the audience was smaller.

Myanimelist deals in anime, something with a far larger audience than adult games these days. My point earlier on percentage of discussion about that was mentioned earlier in this post is the same as I made up there. And yes, anime's popularity was largely driven by piracy back in the day because of how easy it was to get illegally rather than legally and piracy websites would get taken down, but then a few more would pop up, so they were never truly taken down. The majority of people who watch anime are just watching anime, and don't go and discuss it on my animelist. Those who do is a very small portion of them. (this honestly is the case with everything, most people just watch a movie and don't go on forums to discuss said movie, so I'm not sure how you'd think porn games are the exception) Same as here , the exception being that they have a large enough following that even if it's just a small percentage of anime watchers, it's still going to mean that it's a significant enough amount to make it into a rather big website. Anyway, I guess this has derailed the thread enough and the cat has spoken so I'll leave it at that.

that's something the dev has to think of, he could go DRM way or make version that pay give them version that has passwords, something like this website gets public version. I personally use this forum because there's tons of games i would of missed out of if this didn't exist. If they don't like things posted here they can ask for it be removed. With NTRman think those dev's pretty much gave up, they know as soon they got update someone is going pay and post it on one these sites regardless

 

[bai_pyrvan]

My impressiong from the updade.

The 1st scene is the worst in the game so far - my opinion. I mean not about the writting, but about the CG and animation quality. Laura's hips are disproportionally big. When Luca kisses her, his right shoulder is unnaturally located (what we see behind her body) - it has to be like 10 cm away from his body. Laura's face is quite static and looks again unnatural (while she jumps on Luca's cock). It also lags. My laptop is not new, so probably the problem is in my machine - I am not complaining about it. But just doesn't suit to the quality of the scene - it's worse from the other scenes in the game, so looks just a little surprising for me; and the 1st scene so far to lag. If the artist here is different and new, I think he didn't do his job OK, and if the previous scenes were like this, the game will never be so successfull.

The 2nd scene I liked, it was good. I wanted to see scene like this in the game, it suits it. Just didn't like how it ended, but it is because of the developers plans for the ending.

I know that the rules system is the unique of this game, and one of the things which made it so interesting. Yet I don't think returning the rules system now, 1year later, suits; even the opposite - looks a little banal. The rules game already did its purpose in the early stages of the story.

It's obvious where this ending goes. I just want to say, that Luca is not the only man in the world. And if realizing that Harry is not OK, going from bad to worse is strange.

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[ktez]

dude, this people arguing about piracy for days and with 9999 words essays makes me want to get the game and link it as soon as the new version comes out lol

 

[Animefan_09]

dude, this people arguing about piracy for days and with 9999 words essays makes me want to get the game and link it as soon as the new version comes out lol

.....i am starting to think that its EXACTLY what its been happening the last few updates

 

[ktez]

Just how many things happened through out history that were believed to be impossible before? I believe things are pretty rough when it comes to piracy in Germany. Likewise aren't most pirate sites based in Russia or post soviet countries? Do you think it is impossible that the lines would be severed as result of war or politics? Also not everything is being shared or cracked/pirated.


You are trying to present piracy as something good or morally correct because it is beneficial to the devs. Meanwhile you do not have any sort of consent, piracy is selfish and whatever benefit devs have from it is a byproduct.
What are the devs accepting ? Piracy ? What choice they have? most don't have technical know how to implement working DRM and openly criticizing piracy wouldn't stop it anyway and would only cause negativity on this forum and probably native reviews as reaction which then would mean less people potentially checking out the game.

Ok, good we can agree that devs do not need piracy.


Because i benefit from something doesn't make me blind or make the thing right. If there were no pirated games i would just entertain myself with something else, crazy idea eh ?

DRM is necessary evil. DRM is like a lock on your door, annoying, you may lose the keys or it may jam. It doesn't really stop any real thief from robbing you yet you wouldn't leave without locking the door. Why is that? Do you see locks as a scummy thing?


Most of players would download both files since both parts are actually ntr, you should not add those numbers. The data is obviously not complete but its better then saying "decently sized portion". But this is irrelevant now as we have agreed that devs do not need piracy.

No, it is not so simple. HC for example didn't experience any growth when he was small despite posting his game here. Only when he started this game things started blowing up. NTRMAN has rather stable growth from the looks of it or maybe even his growth at the start was slower then later.

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In case of FI like i said i would expect if piracy is such a major factor for success then the game should grow as the site has grown. Just how much traffic does F95 get now compared to 2016? probable couple times higher.
Anyway feel free to provide of your own example.


It is still an example of site that is successful while the "product" they are dealing with is mostly enjoyed through piracy and they are not sharing it. Sure few people discuss but there hella lot of lurkers. You know time is a currency, being able to go and quickly assess whatever something is good or up to your tastes is huge.
Also porn is huge and growth of technology will result with further growth of porn games. Like steam opened for porn games, they wouldn't do it (they need to spend money on the whole review process) if the profits wouldn't be there. Being THE place for porn games may be huge in future.


So exactly what is already happening?

Imagine saying that DRM is a necessary evil, lol

 

[MasksDude]

HC hoping my man gives our Laura some BBC just have Luca have a BBC friend then Laura gets a piece of it, then Laura craves of that BBC man and My friendo invites the whole football team to the house lol that'd be the NTR dream for Laura

 

[KiraJames]

man you guys don't have a life at all, writing essays longer then my masters thesis.

 

[dmop22]

Yup, nothing surprising there. It's basically pirate mantra:
Piracy can't be stopped.
DRM is bad for consumers.
Piracy has good side because xyz.

Aight, I'm out, consider it your win or whatever because it's getting really boring. All I'll say is that I'm very thankful you aren't a game dev. Oh and you might also want to look out for a management position at Ubisoft or EA.

 

[MaskTheSaito]

The android version still 0.4.5? When the update

 

[MasksDude]

The android version still 0.4.5? When the update

look harder it's in the thread, it ain't always at the front page

 

[Lon-the]

error when i am playing with Joiplay