VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus S2 Ep 9-11] [Hangover Cat]

[SkylerCrew]

Mate, of all the devs out there milking money, this isn't one of them. Fuck out of here.

Can't even i give my opinion on the matter ? And isn't evryone have right of speech here ? And bro ... I don't hate this game at all ... Infact i am here commenting and giving my stupid opinions ... " No offense to u or to anybody "

 

[SkylerCrew]

Yep. I mean, I'm a Patron and I've also seen and chatted with other patrons that think the same way I do. To quote one of them,

"It's still ntr if you let the mc overcome adversity. The shit still happened. He can win, he can lose, he can come out different. But at the end of the day no matter what it doesn't lessen the events by having different outcomes. I'm not asking for Harry to win every time. But without the possibility of winning the losses mean less. "

Unfortunately, overprotective fanboys will screech that you're anti-ntr if you don't want the same old generic 'antag curbstomps the protag' from start to finish. As it stands now there is no variation in any of the paths. It's all the same old thing:
- Harry: loses
- Laura: broken
- Luca: wins
- Aya: ignored (at least until her path which will more than likely have her fall into Laura's category).

It gets boring without variation. Personally, I'd have gone with 4 endings.
Normal (Generic. Harry never finds out)
Bad (Tragic. Harry loses everything, finds out, snaps and ruins his life by probably killing Luca and the girl(s) or trying to)
Hero (Bittersweet. Laura wins but her relationship with Harry is forever tainted and maybe even broken)
Good (Happy. Luca gets fucked over hard and it's a happy ending)

Good ending is still not even started working out by DEV ?? Isn't it ... and something happened to 3rd girl ... How to unlock her gallery ??

 

[rhcp725]

Endings i want? First off endings require an actual end not just a stopping point before any form of resolution occurs. Also if a story has different branching paths the end result should also have variance. If all paths lead to the same place of Luca wins, Laura breaks and Harry loses then what was the point of different paths to begin with. I have never demanded that the story goes a certain way just that it completes the way it went in a way unique to the path it took. If the intent was just to have the same outcome every time it's a waste of the potential the story had to begin with. I just want a complete narrative and don't think I'm asking too much.

 

[NewTricks]

We aren't going to get the endings that we want. We are going to get the endings we need. Life is a hopeless exercise in futility and entropy. We must be educated. Embrace the suck and enjoy the ride down to the final depths of utter despair and hopelessness that this game represents.

 

[ZUBiDAM]

Yep. I mean, I'm a Patron and I've also seen and chatted with other patrons that think the same way I do. To quote one of them,

"It's still ntr if you let the mc overcome adversity. The shit still happened. He can win, he can lose, he can come out different. But at the end of the day no matter what it doesn't lessen the events by having different outcomes. I'm not asking for Harry to win every time. But without the possibility of winning the losses mean less. "

Unfortunately, overprotective fanboys will screech that you're anti-ntr if you don't want the same old generic 'antag curbstomps the protag' from start to finish. As it stands now there is no variation in any of the paths. It's all the same old thing:
- Harry: loses
- Laura: broken
- Luca: wins
- Aya: ignored (at least until her path which will more than likely have her fall into Laura's category).

It gets boring without variation. Personally, I'd have gone with 4 endings.
Normal (Generic. Harry never finds out)
Bad (Tragic. Harry loses everything, finds out, snaps and ruins his life by probably killing Luca and the girl(s) or trying to)
Hero (Bittersweet. Laura wins but her relationship with Harry is forever tainted and maybe even broken)
Good (Happy. Luca gets fucked over hard and it's a happy ending)

why are deciding by yourself how all the endings will end, you don't know yet
i think the hero ending which has 2 variations, will actually end with laura winning against luca in one of the variations
and the good ending might actually gonna be an abrupt good ending for harry

 

[Rasor685]

I read the argument about endings...

I'll add my five cents: any of the conventionally good endings, such as "normal" or "hero," are bad endings in my opinion.
Why?
Simply because there was a fait accompli of prolonged cheating. But it's not even that, it's the fact that Laura has had a profound psychological change of personality that matters. Whereas in the "normal" ending this is obvious to any blind person, in the "hero" ending Laura sort of "wins" Luke at his game.
No she doesn't, it's just that Laura doesn't become Luca's plaything, but there's no question of "winning." Because simply comparing the importance of satisfaction in bed to Laura's personality "before" "playing" with Luca and "after," it's highly likely that, even if not with Luca, Laura will cheat on Harry again at the first "opportunity," justifying herself with violence/blackmail or any other plausible pretext.

Among the really good endings for Harry personally are two:
- Is a relationship with Aya, provided the latter doesn't take Laura's place in Luca's games;
- And the unlikely option if at the very beginning, literally in the first days of the blackmail, Laura honestly confesses everything to Harry about forcing her to have sex with Luca and the reasons why it happened, and they find a way to get out from under the blackmail together.
In the latter case, I believe that Laura's confession must happen before their first "date" with Luca this coming Friday. Since Laura, in fact, is now betraying Harry twice:
- The first time by not trusting him, there was a scene literally in the first days of forced cheating, when the heroine wanted to confess in thought, but pretended in words to be okay;
- The second time Laura betrays Harry during her "date" with Luca on Friday (albeit involuntarily), when she begins to take physical pleasure in being forced and enjoying the situation she finds herself in, from that moment on the option of "confessing everything to Harry herself" is in my opinion completely impossible, because Laura begins to sink into "playing by Luca's rules". In which the winner can only be the antoghanist, the only question is the degree to which he wins.

I am, of course, judging from my own experience and understanding. What do you think?)

Sorry for my bad English =)

 

[Animefan_09]

We aren't going to get the endings that we want. We are going to get the endings we need. Life is a hopeless exercise in futility and entropy. We must be educated. Embrace the suck and enjoy the ride down to the final depths of utter despair and hopelessness that this game represents.

Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if HC includes a joke ending during next year April update with how crazy the discussion are getting xD

Think Silent Hill dog/aliens endings xD

 

[subaru_dono]

Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if HC includes a joke ending during next year April update with how crazy the discussion are getting xD

Think Silent Hill dog/aliens endings xD

"Luca, incriminating USB drive in hand, is walking home triumphant, but he takes one overconfident step into the street and into the path of an oncoming truck driven by a Shiba Inu."
We get a single CG of Luca waking up in an isekai setting.

 

[Animefan_09]

"Luca, incriminating USB drive in hand, is walking home triumphant, but he takes one overconfident step into the street and into the path of an oncoming truck driven by a Shiba Inu."
We get a single CG of Luca waking up in an isekai setting.

"Luca has stolen Laura, Aya, Sandra and Maya away from Harry, this latest conquest feels like the crown jewel to his manliness and proof of his charm, little does he know it works a little too well until fateful night he wakes up tied to a table with little grey ladies surrounding him, tools beyond human undertanding in their many apendices and clear blushes on their faces....."

 

[MasksDude]

any cg preview?

 

[korrdulka]

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[mzer0]

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Whoever said they were in Laura's office is wrong. They are clearly in a bedroom in this scene. Most likely, Luca's.

 

[Animefan_09]

Whoever said they were in Laura's office is wrong. They are clearly in a bedroom in this scene. Most likely, Luca's.

The real question is if Laura's expression is one of doubt, regret, etc? Certainly the only semi positive one it could be is she beign shy but i somehow doubt she could make a shy expression unless she is faking it at this point xD

 

[mzer0]

The real question is if Laura's expression is one of doubt, regret, etc? Certainly the only semi positive one it could be is she beign shy but i somehow doubt she could make a shy expression unless she is faking it at this point xD

To me, the expression on her face looks like resignation. Like, she doesn't really like what's happening, but she's accepted it. We'll have to wait and see, though.

 

[Rasor685]

I completely understand the desire for a good ending to be included

My opinion:

The branch to a good ending should start from one scenes very beginning of the game. Probably when Laura and Harry first time meet Luka, and when they smoke and talk privately, there should be a choice in perspective for Harry to "Tell Laura in detail about the events in high school" (about the fate of Maya).
Further, this act of trust will probably encourage Laura herself, literally in the first evenings of forced sex with Luka, to confess about the situation with blackmail (there was even a scene from Laura's perspective, when she thinks about telling Harry everything honestly, but does not dare) .

This would probably be the shortest branch of events (unless dev add some other circumstances). And probably the least painful for the consequences for Laura-Harry couple.

All in all, I'm impressed. The game is very difficult psychologically, but that's why it's good (or maybe I imagine myself in a similar situation too well).

 

[Rasor685]

Take off your "Rose-Colored Glasses"!

Real life situation!

This happened about 10 years ago:
There lived a young family, a husband, wife and their daughter, not everything was good with them, but it was possible to fight with this and live on. But the wife decides to radically change the situation, divorce her husband and move to another city to her ex. Husband suffered for a long time, but got on his feet! Hi didn’t start serious relationships anymore, but everything was in order with him, he had a good job, he started playing sports, etc. Lived in general well and carefree.
After five years+ One evening he hears a knock at the door, opens, and on the threshold of his ex-wife with his already matured daughter and in his arms he has a of one-year-old child (from her ex), he let them in...
In general - they have been living together for five years (again), again played a wedding and raise two children
And this is real life!!!

So no need to breed demagoguery! Anything can happens in life!!!

Why can't we wish for a "Happy" ending in this game? In the game Carl!

In a situation like this, the only thing that would stop me personally from slamming the door right in my ex's face would be my grown daughter.

I think the guy stopped the same.
So yes, rose-colored glasses are sometimes worth taking off.

 

[Terix3]

My opinion:

The branch to a good ending should start from one scenes very beginning of the game. Probably when Laura and Harry first time meet Luka, and when they smoke and talk privately, there should be a choice in perspective for Harry to "Tell Laura in detail about the events in high school" (about the fate of Maya).
Further, this act of trust will probably encourage Laura herself, literally in the first evenings of forced sex with Luka, to confess about the situation with blackmail (there was even a scene from Laura's perspective, when she thinks about telling Harry everything honestly, but does not dare) .

This would probably be the shortest branch of events (unless dev add some other circumstances). And probably the least painful for the consequences for Laura-Harry couple.

All in all, I'm impressed. The game is very difficult psychologically, but that's why it's good (or maybe I imagine myself in a similar situation too well).

That would be like putting ending after prologue. This is more than good ending - this is vanilla or pure ending that you desire.
I think such ending here would be ... lame. I want the characters to overcome the obstacles not avoid them. It is already enough that in your average game girl having a partner other then MC is a taboo and stigma that inhibits devs creativity. I think here we can accept a more "difficult" good ending.

In a situation like this, the only thing that would stop me personally from slamming the door right in my ex's face would be my grown daughter.

I think the guy stopped the same.
So yes, rose-colored glasses are sometimes worth taking off.

They say that true love forgives everything.

 

[subaru_dono]

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To me, Laura's expression says, "Ugh, fine. Let's get this over with."

 

[BluexRexy]

The thing that hits the hardest is the fact that Laura is a slut who will get corrupted no matter what in most cases. I havent seen the hero ending yet and I will wait for it to be finished at least the first rout. I may be wrong bc I didnt see this Laura yet.

 

[Rasor685]

That would be like putting ending after prologue. This is more than good ending - this is vanilla or pure ending that you desire.
I think such ending here would be ... lame. I want the characters to overcome the obstacles not avoid them. It is already enough that in your average game girl having a partner other then MC is a taboo and stigma that inhibits devs creativity. I think here we can accept a more "difficult" good ending.

And I did not say that it would be easy and pleasant in this case.
The issue of getting out of the situation with blackmail = the complete removal of all information from the flash drive. Where is the flash drive? Where can copies be sent? We don't know the answer. And all the time that the couple will try to find answers, Laura will be forced to sleep with Luca, and Harry will be well aware of this, but they will be forced to try to deceive Luka already about their game against him. In addition, Luca is positioned as a rather attentive and cunning character, he can probably notice oddities in the behavior of the couple and somehow complicate their task.
For example, using and manipulating the Aya that Laura and Harry trust.

They say that true love forgives everything.

And in fact, the story is summarized in the message. No extra details.
Therefore, the judgment is the same, not taking into account these missing details.
As it stands now, it looks like this:
The woman was married, something went wrong in the marriage, she left for another. She remarried and had a daughter. Then, completely spitting on the current family life, she takes it and runs away to the ex ... At the same time, without thinking about what her current husband will be like, nor about what example she will set for her daughter ... Well, apparently, this is also to blame "true love" and "high family values". Then, something went wrong again with her first husband, and she, with a new child and a grown daughter, after more than 5 years (!) Of absence, returns to her second husband ...

Attention questions!
1) But will it not happen that in a few more years she will run away somewhere again?
2) And when she left her second husband for her ex, what didn’t suit her in a man?
3) Will she look for a lover on the side for the same reason that she left her second husband?
3) So what kind of example does she set for her daughter?

With what we know, there can only be one answer. If I were in a similar situation and we either didn’t have a daughter, or she stayed with me, I wouldn’t let this woman even on the threshold.
Just because I don't want to waste my life and my feelings on a woman who doesn't care about anyone but his own convenience. For she returned to the second man, only because she most likely has nowhere else to go, and fathers usually love their daughters very much. And thanks to her daughter, a man would not drive her away. This is just a pragmatic calculation and the use of a man's feelings for his daughter for own purposes by a woman.

And there is no need to pity or sympathize with such women, otherwise they will never begin to appreciate the love of men.