VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus S2 Ep 9-11] [Hangover Cat]

[Terix3]

This game, particularly in early updates, makes more of an attempt to sell its scenario to the player. There's even an option to play without seeing Laura's perspective, which practically removes porn from the experience. This shows the developer was confident his story could stand on its own, having lewd as a strong hook but not something that completely subordinates the writing. At least when compared to the standard ntr hentai.

Believable setup is important for netorare to have good "kick" but once that is done the kink takes precedence. The MC pov only is not meant to be entertaining on its own, it is to provide people with some mystery if they seek one and for me it is a "ok let's see how dumb and blind is the MC to not see what is happening".

Also it is far easier to write linear bit of story than multi choice one that result the characters becoming almost different people.

The banner argument is fair enough, but I think you are overplaying the genre argument. It's not uncommon for ntr games with several branches to have ''good endings'', reverse ntr paths and other things that deviate from getting cucked. I'd wager most people knew blonde kouhai would take your bully's dick in some route, but thought there would be ways to avoid it.

My first expectation about the game was that the blonde chick will be corrupting the wife. I don't think many people come to ntr games expecting that you can save the girls.

 

[critic specialized in NTR]

this game definitely got generic and spoiled from the moment it branched out into several routes, the usual problem, prioritizing quantity over quality, I hope your next game is better used.

 

[kiribito]

this game definitely got generic and spoiled from the moment it branched out into several routes, the usual problem, prioritizing quantity over quality, I hope your next game is better used.

It already is i think. This one way too long, repetitive and unnecessarily edgy. His side game is much more fun and condensed. Just my opinion of course.

 

[adcebt1]

I see a lot of complaining, is this game worth try?

 

[Terix3]

It already is i think. This one way too long, repetitive and unnecessarily edgy. His side game is much more fun and condensed. Just my opinion of course.

The other game is ridiculously funny and i love Natasha but i don't think it is good NTR game.

this game definitely got generic and spoiled from the moment it branched out into several routes, the usual problem, prioritizing quantity over quality, I hope your next game is better used.

What was generic about Hero route? It is not about prioritizing quantity over quality but serving ntr in different tastes.

 

[Boobitz]

I see a lot of complaining, is this game worth try?

As you can see, some people are split on story decisions, but imo game has very good art with a couple unique scenarios if you are just looking to gallery whore.

 

[critic specialized in NTR]

I see a lot of complaining, is this game worth try?

I think this game is very good if you just want to make a straight line of it without looking at the ramifications, because they drag the game a lot towards content that is expected from any netorare. However, the real problem here that I raise is the enormous potential that this game had even before the ramifications, as I said, yes, it's worth it, but don't be surprised if in the last arcs the game is making you bored.
Edit: i feel like the main story of the game is a separate thing from the rest that branched off, it's like it feels like the main story got lost or its script fell in the water and he had to do the branches to take the story elsewhere.

 

[adcebt1]

As you can see, some people are split on story decisions, but imo game has very good art with a couple unique scenarios if you are just looking to gallery whore.

I think this game is very good if you just want to make a straight line of it without looking at the ramifications, because they drag the game a lot towards content that is expected from any netorare. However, the real problem here that I raise is the enormous potential that this game had even before the ramifications, as I said, yes, it's worth it, but don't be surprised if in the last arcs the game is making you bored.
Edit: i feel like the main story of the game is a separate thing from the rest that branched off, it's like it feels like the main story got lost or its script fell in the water and he had to do the branches to take the story elsewhere.

Ok thanks, guess i'll give it a try

 

[lkjhgfdfghjkl]

This game, particularly in early updates, makes more of an attempt to sell its scenario to the player. There's even an option to play without seeing Laura's perspective, which practically removes porn from the experience. This shows the developer was confident his story could stand on its own, having lewd as a strong hook but not something that completely subordinates the writing. At least when compared to the standard ntr hentai.

You're missing the role that Mystery NTR plays in stimulating the player. Removing lewd content from Harry's perspective pretty much kills the experience, it is everywhere by design. Players are given a partial view of all events through visuals and dialogue that allows them to piece together what is happening without directly showing the events. Harry's journey is not the same one that we experience even when limited to his POV. The obvious hints are meant to arouse the player not the protagonist as part of this fetish.

Saying it has been designed in a way that can ignore lewd content is nonsense, stuff is left out to get people off.

 

[NewTricks]

I see a lot of complaining, is this game worth try?

Only if you go in with reasonable expectations. A lot of folks seem to think that it is deceiving them with the prospect of a happy ending for Harry when the game has one of the most hopeless fucking titles I've heard an NTR game possess. This is a game about the main character getting completely stomped and owned by his asshole of a co-worker who fucks his girlfriend into complete oblivion and if that isn't a fetish that appeals to you this hard NTR title is a pretty rough ride.

 

[mommysboiii]

can someone please update the thread it seems like some poeple already played the update

 

[Traveroro]

You're missing the role that Mystery NTR plays in stimulating the player. Removing lewd content from Harry's perspective pretty much kills the experience, it is everywhere by design. Players are given a partial view of all events through visuals and dialogue that allows them to piece together what is happening without directly showing the events. Harry's journey is not the same one that we experience even when limited to his POV. The obvious hints are meant to arouse the player not the protagonist as part of this fetish.

Saying it has been designed in a way that can ignore lewd content is nonsense, stuff is left out to get people off.

Believable setup is important for netorare to have good "kick" but once that is done the kink takes precedence. The MC pov only is not meant to be entertaining on its own, it is to provide people with some mystery if they seek one and for me it is a "ok let's see how dumb and blind is the MC to not see what is happening".

You guys are misunderstanding my point. I never said kink isn't the main draw, I meant that the degree to which story logic is sacrificed for the sake of kink pandering exists in a spectrum. The porn mentioned by the person I replied to is obviously giving less of a fuck about logic than this game is, even if ultimately both are designed to make you fap. The idea that it can be played with few to no sex scenes isn't to say such route is devoid of arousal, but when you eliminate that from the equation it becomes harder to arouse, it creates a higher necessity of the player being invested into what's happening on a narrative level.

I'm the first to say being fappable is hentai's first priority, was just arguing that different porn games warrant different expectations as far as logic and storytelling is concerned.

 

[rangabang]

I see a lot of complaining, is this game worth try?

Its a great game, this thread is just filled with people who either expect vanilla in an ntr game, or are expecting award winning writing in a porn game

 

[Shatteredstar]

I see a lot of complaining, is this game worth try?

Game is good, better than good. Writing is, so far, best at the beginning. Some routes are very good with great character arches, some are mostly porn check box lists. These are just my opinions.

Most don't stick around to post 238 pages about a crap game.

 

[kusobaba]

Agreed. The common route is just that fun. The routes? I feel like something is lacking that prevents it to be as fun and good as the common route

 

[HentaiWatcher918418128]

Are we ever gonna get more updates to the family route? That has my favorite Laura look and character atm.

 

[SiriusBlack]

Its a great game, this thread is just filled with people who either expect vanilla in an ntr game, or are expecting award winning writing in a porn game

Let's say having big differences between branching paths isn't that easy, and this game suffers the same problem of many, many others.
Plus we are playing it 3 scenes every month, we have big expectations and hype. While hardcore fans of the game will always be satysfied, avarage enjoyers may not. That will probably be different if you just play the finished game without waiting for it.

I always thought the first part of the game, the so called "common route" is way more interesting and better written than the endings. It may be cause the corruption process was still going on, while it's almost or entirely after the branching.

 

[Terix3]

Let's say having big differences between branching paths isn't that easy, and this game suffers the same problem of many, many others.
Plus we are playing it 3 scenes every month, we have big expectations and hype. While hardcore fans of the game will always be satysfied, avarage enjoyers may not. That will probably be different if you just play the finished game without waiting for it.

I always thought the first part of the game, the so called "common route" is way more interesting and better written than the endings. It may be cause the corruption process was still going on, while it's almost or entirely after the branching.

There is the charm of "first time" and our nature of getting bored of samey things. So the first time girl breaks will always be the most impactful. However I personally like the routes more than the "common part" .

Another thing is that because we play the game bit by bit we dwell on things more. When reading completed story even if we don't like something, we can just skim over it till we get to part we like. Well if you don't like what is in the update (sometimes it may be only one scene), that is that, you will be upset and likely to voice it - game is still being developed right ? so there is a chance the feedback will be heard.

Finally I believe that at its core netorare is self contradicting. We want the girl to be pure and deeply in love yet we want her to betray and hurt her beloved. We want the dude to be "close" to the betrayal, we want it be palpable, withing his grasp but never realizing it yet at the same time he is supposed to be a normal person /aka not blind/. How do you write believable characters like that ?

 

[Terix3]

How the f it is fair for people that don't like NTR to review NTR game? Why I can't review a review or at least dislike it?
How do i know he don't like NTR? He admitted it in another review but wasn't honest enough to do it here. WTF.
Also probably didn't even read the story because asking something that is obvious to anyone that did read it.

 

[SiriusBlack]

There is the charm of "first time" and our nature of getting bored of samey things. So the first time girl breaks will always be the most impactful. However I personally like the routes more than the "common part" .

I find the point where the girls gives up/starts to realize things the most appealing, and this game has most of the corruption part in the "common" route. That may be the reason why i prefer it, i guess.

Another thing is that because we play the game bit by bit we dwell on things more. When reading completed story even if we don't like something, we can just skim over it till we get to part we like. Well if you don't like what is in the update (sometimes it may be only one scene), that is that, you will be upset and likely to voice it - game is still being developed right ? so there is a chance the feedback will be heard.

It's not really being upset for me, it's just "different people have different reactions". I'm not a fool and i know there will be branches i like and others i don't, that is real for every game i've played. I really think constructive criticism is good: debating about choices with manners is helpful and can improve the game (that's why i asked a while ago if this game discord was open, but apparently it's not). That said, one should always respect the creator vision first, and patrons decisions/votes as well.

Finally I believe that at its core netorare is self contradicting. We want the girl to be pure and deeply in love yet we want her to betray and hurt her beloved. We want the dude to be "close" to the betrayal, we want it be palpable, withing his grasp but never realizing it yet at the same time he is supposed to be a normal person /aka not blind/. How do you write believable characters like that ?

I don't really like girls to be pure, i'd like to see them being corrupted and falling. I may prefer the cheating part more than the netorare one, because i don't really enjoy fiance/hubby trashtalking/humiliation/pain or whatever. Hubby can be smart/blind, it usually depens on choices/branches, but i'm usually more interested in the girl. One thing i really like it's a way out for them, i guess it really makes the game a better one, since the choices may lead them to a """good""" ending. ( i know the creator plans something like that for the game, imho it's a good choice).

How the f it is fair for people that don't like NTR to review NTR game? Why I can't review a review or at least dislike it?
How do i know he don't like NTR? He admitted it in another review but wasn't honest enough to do it here. WTF.
Also probably didn't even read the story because asking something that is obvious to anyone that did read it.

Yeah, i'm familiar with this kind of things. I second you on this, we should be able to dislike reviews as much as we are able to like them. If you feel reviews are straight up fake, you can only try to report them and pray ^^'