These psychological discussions and walls of text are getting genuinely insane.
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Aya's larger-than-average boobs and bra for holding them, cracked me up during the club rape scene, of all times, it hits perfectly. Her crazy face standing art, the one she does when she threw that over sized stuff toy onto the train tracks, is inspired. I love it. So much effort is put into her character, one of my favorites. If she goes full on 'nice boat'... perfection.
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I wouldn't go that far, but there is some form of attachment there. I think there is more than we have been told about Luca's past with Harry, but maybe I'm just not remembering the story well enough.
Context, I think, was when Luca was talking with Aya just before the 'clap Aya's ass silly scene', that latest one. She was reading him, figuring out his thoughts on Harry, among other things. She said Luca hated Harry, to which he replied I love em. I'd have to run through the scene again for total accuracy, but I think that's the context.
Just because I now see that Harry lives in a fantasy world and think he needs therapy to quit gaslighting his reality with his own ideals, at the expense of others, instead of using observation to make judgments and decisions, I still wouldn't call Luca good. Luca is shit, always making his mother's last words to him a self fulfilling prophecy.
I quick side note, does Harry have mania? He needs meds and therapy doesn't he?
Damn, is no one healthy and even in this VN? HC what have you done?
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Is this crazy story still going on? No one in this story looks like a normal person. And I think the fact that Lauren's infidelity still hasn't been discovered speaks for how trashy this story is. Each person has their own taste, so if there is someone who enjoys it, please enjoy it. I will give up.
LMAOOOOO im sorry Im just getting too into this at the end of the day its a ntr game that serves to fulfill the fetish first I just like talking about the story somewhat
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Kenpachi 97 the porter was out of town for the last week. Give it a few days and it will find its way here. No need to rush since the next update will not be until late August anyway.
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Can someone share bonus#5?
this game have always been like that since the beginning, but people started noticing as the story progressed with each update.
taking the chance of putting in a potential theory since the topic is a psychological topic, with the context you have giving me it gives me the understanding that luca isn't love with harry specifically but his shattered delusional mind. Let me use lara snow as an example, she despite harry for being an "emotional vampire," which based on what I been reading in this threat is not really well perceived because it leads to an unconscious self destructive path, while on the other hand luca loves that aspect since it helps him take advantage of the cracks harry have created by said path, hence how easily got into laura pants and corrupted her because she was walking on a glass floor that could be easily cracked by anyone. Who created this? harry, because he refused to take control of his actual life and live in denial and ignorant in his own imaginary perfect world. Same thing is happening to aya since harry isn't willing to leave his ideal world, and when he is forced out of his world he is thrown into an anger fit, hence "normal ending 1", where laura and luca sent him that video of them having sex and him showing "backbone" that he supposedly have in him. Same case can be argue with the "abrupt ending" by seeing laura and luca literally having sex in his room, it shatters his perfect world, comparing this to the "normal ending 1" he have both luca and laura within his grasp might as well act on that anger that he couldn't use on "normal ending 1."
He isn't a emotional vampire, but someone who never learn how to mentally grow due to the shock that he got as a child caused by luca, his brain refused to move on from that incident causing him to be emotionally unattached towards anyone due to fear and let his imagination take over to define what love amd expectation mean to him, hence why he try to be equal to laura despite her being ok with harry being inferior to her in certain aspects because she actually had something for him. This can also, and probably will lead towards aya route, maybe she can heal him (good ending), maybe she doesn't after all she also have her demons in her closet. For this ending (final update), I'm fairly sure HC is going to take a route where he shows how harry is mentally unstable by having aya and laura shattering his imaginary world as laura take the dominant role over aya and screw her in front of harry or through a video, and luca giving the final pus using his ideology on harry as a final push to break him psychologically, and potentially harry committing suicide as all of them laugh at him.
Personal comment: I might exaggerate a bit at the end, but I'm pretty sure the final update is going to take that route
first game I stopped playing, because I want to experience it fully realised, not in a 0.x version. top!
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Updated my android port.
Is there
something wrong with asking that? JC. I know some people like it and some people don't.
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yeah....no. Sorry. You can hate Harry all you want for his depicted actions and give him harsh criticism (cause frankly, a lot of it is deserved with how crap his character writing is)...but Luca is by far the WORSt person in this game by design. He literally rapes and manipulates, and throws his weight at people below his weight class all the time with no remorse. There's just no contest on this, objectively speaking, even with how butchered and OOC Harry is in this latest update (which just feels like a clumsy way to justify the already oddball ntr idiocy to continue).
Like...if Harry deserved to get cheated on...then Luca deserves to get castrated. Painfully.
Again, hate Harry all you want, it's your right, but please don't pretend that Luca's SOMEHOW a a better person or sanitize his utterly horrible actions on others as him "just being a jerk" just cause he is more entertaining to you....and apparently satisfies your personal bull fantasies.
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Yeah, that's what feels like the core issue when it comes to Harry. This change in actions just...doesn't make sense or fit with ANY description of him by the narrative or other characters. It just feels like a VERY clumsy way of justifying why Aya would lose her mind even further and actually think Luca's a better alternative. I guess the author just couldn't figure out how to get someone like Aya to plausibly (and I'm using that term loosely here)) fall for Luca's machinations unless Harry suddenly confirms his critics worse bias about him...apparently.
EDIT: Just replayed the content. I take back the justification bit, Aya just falls (or comes close to falling) because Luca just isn't allowed to not be dominant and not be in control for even a microsecond unless he's literally being killed. Typical NTR antagonist perks, I guess. But the writing of Harry in Aya's route still feel VERY OOC even taking into account his worst traits in the other routes...or him being an "emotion sucking vampire". It's like his lack of agency and will got turned up by 200% to ruin whatever he had with Aya. It feels even MORE off after replaying it!
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Same...probably because,as you said, it's when the characters feel like actual people....in other, stupid ntr logic went out the window for one blessed moment...only to be brought back full force and me needing to ask myself why I just can't let go of my morbid curiosity and stop playing games like these that I KNOW will end with me hating every character (Aya less so...but that's probably gonna change as she gets Luca'd into a typical ntr slut character) and feeling like I wasted my time.
Almost makes those moments feel like bait, fr.
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I agree. I think NTR games, and games in general, need more instances of actually good dialogue and characterization like that one scene. In it, we as the viewer are able to connect to Harry and Aya and their emotions, as well as the 2 characters themselves being able to connect and better understand one another. Most of the time I feel the characters are only there to move the plot forward so they end up not feeling like actual people. This explains why immediately after that scene there's no more depth to Harry. He goes right back into the bumbling moron no one likes because him and the other characters are just there to act as vehicles to deliver the fetishes. Which, don't get me wrong, a game does need to deliver the fetishes just not at the expense of creating good and compelling characters
Pretty much. If this game was just about the fantasy, then it arguably wouldn't be an issue...but then it has little moments like that and I can't help but wonder for a moment.
Ultimately, I think the kind of fetish NTR usually caters to is arguably incompatible with the subject matter being used for more compelling drama...cause it arguably would cause the entire fantasy to fall to pieces when consequences and proper character development ensues. At least, that's how I see it.
Either way...I think I'm just going to try to stay away from this game from now on. My curiosity just isn't worth it since it's nowhere near my fetish.
There's almost as much lewd featuring Laura in these updates despite this supposedly being Aya's route, as if Laura didn't got enough screen time in the ten previous paths where she's the main. At this point I literally just hold ctrl whenever her perspective plays.
Though at least the bits between Aya and mr chad were more fappable this update. I actually like that Luca seems into her and there's a slight power dynamic going on. With Laura I always felt his behavior was overly detached and mechanical. Like he was some robot designed to act cool and make women squirt, without getting into it himself. Him being so above it all (a borderline comical projection of how a smooth guy approaches sex) makes the scenes less hot, since the guy actually lusting for the other's wife is part of what makes ntr hot.
Though at least the bits between Aya and mr chad were more fappable this update. I actually like that Luca seems into her and there's a slight power dynamic going on. With Laura I always felt his behavior was overly detached and mechanical. Like he was some robot designed to act cool and make women squirt, without getting into it himself. Him being so above it all (a borderline comical projection of how a smooth guy approaches sex) makes the scenes less hot, since the guy actually lusting for the other's wife is part of what makes ntr hot.