VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus S2 Ep 9-11] [Hangover Cat]

[Flojerazul20]

what I see is tremendous ntr they do to laura , which is also ntr but towards the fmc

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Ok the embargo is off ... LoL the update was so bad, it was like a parody of what was the game so far. And wtf you chose Harry pov but you get to see other characters pov? Whats the point of Harry pov if I'm not getting his pov in the most important moments? Feels like fan creation imo.

Game went from "Guys do you even want a good ending?" to "let's make alternative good ending for every route". Did you know there is more good endings now than bad ones ? Where this will lead? lol there is still the one titled "Good" left , wonder whats that about. Harry will challenge Luca to sex marathon and win ?

But I guess HC had to appease certain people. It was the longest game has gone without leak. As we have learned it is because the update was "so good", meaning the previous leaks happened because the updates didn't satisfy certain people.

Wait there are good endings now? Wait are these actual good endings or the stupid, "we beat the bad guy buy I still gave birth to his kid and we are happily raising it" good ending?

 

[blue_rose]

are the CGs animated?

 

[Terix3]

Wait there are good endings now? Wait are these actual good endings or the stupid, "we beat the bad guy buy I still gave birth to his kid and we are happily raising it" good ending?

Yes, more so Harry gets Laura and Aya pregnant before Luca could.
But for me it's like:

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Yes, more so Harry gets Laura and Aya pregnant before Luca could.
But for me it's like:

Wait... how does that stop Luca though? Does he actually deal with Luca? Like my does he actually be a man and deal with him.

 

[ScrewMe]

Wait... how does that stop Luca though? Does he actually deal with Luca? Like my does he actually be a man and deal with him.

That's one of the problems I have with most NTR-trope games.
Instead of cartoonish blindness or complete destruction of MC's life, the writer could step it up and turn it into a conflict filled with drama here and there. Like, c'mon, at this point in story, where MC basically knows what his rival is doing to his loved ones on almost any path, there are only two ways for him to go: either you leave the town or go after the guy. Typical hit or run choice.

Also, why people hate good endings(and I don't mean "bad good" like "the dude has fucked my hubby 1000 times but couldn't corrupt her in the end"), but the ones where the oblivious MC gets an upper hand over the bull(and bunny, if it's gone too far)?

I'm not kink shaming or anything, but do you guys really get off to the depressing feeling of desperation and hopelessness?

 

[desmosome]

I'm not kink shaming or anything, but do you guys really get off to the depressing feeling of desperation and hopelessness?

Some people (minority) do get off on depression and self-inserting as the cuck or whatever. But most people who like Japanese style NTR stories get off on the fucked up situation, depravity, and corruption. Maybe it's hard to understand for obligate self-inserters, but you can read stories without identifying with the MC or getting invested in his success. It's basically getting off someone else's misery and typical male dom scenario of some female being corrupted by a big dick baddie.

As for why we might not like "good endings," it's because it loses all that depravity and corruption elements. It can be a cool plot twist or something extra which can be appreciated for its narrative appeal rather than for fapping needs, but that's a different mind space that we have to switch into. We're certainly not gonna be fapping to some good guy overcoming his problems and having lovey dovey sex with his girlfriend in an NTR game.

 

[ScrewMe]

Some people (minority) do get off on depression and self-inserting as the cuck or whatever. But most people who like Japanese style NTR stories get off on the fucked up situation, depravity, and corruption. Maybe it's hard to understand for obligate self-inserters, but you can read stories without identifying with the MC or getting invested in his success. It's basically getting off someone else's misery and typical male dom scenario of some female being corrupted by a big dick baddie.

As for why we might not like "good endings," it's because it loses all that depravity and corruption elements. It can be a cool plot twist or something extra which can be appreciated for its narrative appeal rather than for fapping needs, but that's a different mind space that we have to switch into. We're certainly not gonna be fapping to some good guy overcoming his problems and having lovey dovey sex with his girlfriend in an NTR game.

Dunno, I do like FemProtag games with corruption/cheating as the main theme, but not when the girl gets turned into cumdump once she sees a penis bigger than 3 inches for the first time in her life. But to each of their own(especially since half of the vanilla games use the same trope but played from different perspective)

Some of the games(on rare occasions though) in here end up making you interested in story rather than sexual stuff.
I mean like...different outcomes give a different sorts of feeling to the story, right? Having the same "took your town and your girl" endings are just meh...Just like harem stories where dude gets to bang 50 girls and have 0 conflict. Boring.

Edit: yup, I'm one of these dudes who likes to see story and character development in porn games. Since writing in your "usual" games and movies lately is mediocre at best.

 

[desmosome]

Some of the games(on rare occasions though) in here end up making you interested in story rather than sexual stuff.
I mean like...different outcomes give a different sorts of feeling to the story, right? Having the same "took your town and your girl" endings are just meh...Just like harem stories where dude gets to bang 50 girls and have 0 conflict. Boring.

Like I said, non-standard story progression for any genre can be appreciated for its narrative, but most people get into a certain mind space when they start up a porn game. There is a certain direction and theme that gets them off and that's why they search for certain tags, especially the tropey ones like NTR or Harem.

If you are mature, you can still appreciate stories on their own merits even if it doesn't go the expected way, but that doesn't mean it would be equally fappable for them since there is a certain slant that they wanted to get off on when they started reading. It can still be engaging, interesting, fun, or satisfying as a story, but not necessarily be something they can fap to. And let's face it, NTR is about as tropey as you can get, and there are more people who came in wanting to fap to those tropes than the people who are primarily in it to see the MC win out in the end.

I'm not defending anyone throwing a fit because there are some good endings or whatever. I haven't played the Aya route, but the game already has a bunch of standard NTR variations. Having some routes with good endings is like whatever. Even Thug Hero Party had a really nicely done revenge ending, and that's like the magnum opus of the genre.

 

[ScrewMe]

Like I said, non-standard story progression for any genre can be appreciated for its narrative, but most people get into a certain mind space when they start up a porn game. There is a certain direction and theme that gets them off and that's why they search for certain tags, especially the tropey ones like NTR or Harem.

If you are mature, you can still appreciate stories on their own merits even if it doesn't go the expected way, but that doesn't mean it would be equally fappable for them since there is a certain slant that they wanted to get off on when they started reading. It can still be engaging, interesting, fun, or satisfying as a story, but not necessarily be something they can fap to. And let's face it, NTR is about as tropey as you can get, and there are more people who came in wanting to fap to those tropes than the people who are primarily in it to see the MC win out in the end.

I'm not defending anyone throwing a fit because there are some good endings or whatever. I haven't played the Aya route, but the game already has a bunch of standard NTR variations. Having some routes with good endings is like whatever. Even Thug Hero Party had a really nicely done revenge ending, and that's like the magnum opus of the genre.

Yeah, sure. Just shared an opinion)

With that being said, the other game of this dev is actually a breath of fresh air. The corruption and narrative in there are different from your usual stuff. Still with magic dick though=\

Still waiting to have cheating/NTR-type of game with deep, real deep dive into the characters, their feelings, inner emotions and conflicts where it's everyone's fault or the game gives you something to think about.

 

[Ibnualwisrg]

Oh shit, ver win Cannot play in joiplay

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

That's one of the problems I have with most NTR-trope games.
Instead of cartoonish blindness or complete destruction of MC's life, the writer could step it up and turn it into a conflict filled with drama here and there. Like, c'mon, at this point in story, where MC basically knows what his rival is doing to his loved ones on almost any path, there are only two ways for him to go: either you leave the town or go after the guy. Typical hit or run choice.

Also, why people hate good endings(and I don't mean "bad good" like "the dude has fucked my hubby 1000 times but couldn't corrupt her in the end"), but the ones where the oblivious MC gets an upper hand over the bull(and bunny, if it's gone too far)?

I'm not kink shaming or anything, but do you guys really get off to the depressing feeling of desperation and hopelessness?

You guys? I get you might not be directly asking me but I'll answer only for myself.

I get off to port, there is vanilla shit I like, rape stuff I like, ntr stuff I like. I can disconnect myself from it and just enjoy.

But after a while I do like a change. This is why I enjoy revenge routes in ntr, rapist getting their just dessert in rape port and heart break in vanilla, because these aren't the norm and actually a welcome change.

 

[Terix3]

Dunno, I do like FemProtag games with corruption/cheating as the main theme, but not when the girl gets turned into cumdump once she sees a penis bigger than 3 inches for the first time in her life. But to each of their own(especially since half of the vanilla games use the same trope but played from different perspective)

Some of the games(on rare occasions though) in here end up making you interested in story rather than sexual stuff.
I mean like...different outcomes give a different sorts of feeling to the story, right? Having the same "took your town and your girl" endings are just meh...Just like harem stories where dude gets to bang 50 girls and have 0 conflict. Boring.

Edit: yup, I'm one of these dudes who likes to see story and character development in porn games. Since writing in your "usual" games and movies lately is mediocre at best.

desmosome answer was spot on. I only want to put emphasis on the fact that story in porn games is not priority, in NTR especially. Most people come here for fap material, for that purpose good old same with different dressing is absolutely sufficient. More so story can easily take away from the fappability of the material - say you are here for FMC corruption but you start feeling for the MC , that obviously ain't fucking good.

This game is notorious for spoiling the scenes with story and heavy psycho shit. I would be curious how many scenes people actually consider fappable, in my case that would be like 10%? Maybe I'm picky but in most NTR that do ntr right that would be above 30% and in good ones 50-60ish ?

Wait... how does that stop Luca though? Does he actually deal with Luca? Like my does he actually be a man and deal with him.

Uh... Luca was stopped but not by Harry.

 

[sabu6]

Is there a compressed version? Could not find it on search

 

[Ubtsha]

Dunno, I do like FemProtag games with corruption/cheating as the main theme, but not when the girl gets turned into cumdump once she sees a penis bigger than 3 inches for the first time in her life. But to each of their own(especially since half of the vanilla games use the same trope but played from different perspective)

Some of the games(on rare occasions though) in here end up making you interested in story rather than sexual stuff.
I mean like...different outcomes give a different sorts of feeling to the story, right? Having the same "took your town and your girl" endings are just meh...Just like harem stories where dude gets to bang 50 girls and have 0 conflict. Boring.

Edit: yup, I'm one of these dudes who likes to see story and character development in porn games. Since writing in your "usual" games and movies lately is mediocre at best.

I wish someone made a plot somewhat similar to MTSP mangas, where the girl is fucked by the bull but never "falls", also feel guilty in the end, and even try to overthrow her situation/confront the guy. It's still some bullshit, but it's more beliavable and less tropey. Or even more, a game where the supposedly "fallen" femmc have her own agenda, and ends up tricking everyone.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

desmosome answer was spot on. I only want to put emphasis on the fact that story in porn games is not priority, in NTR especially. Most people come here for fap material, for that purpose good old same with different dressing is absolutely sufficient. More so story can easily take away from the fappability of the material - say you are here for FMC corruption but you start feeling for the MC , that obviously ain't fucking good.

This game is notorious for spoiling the scenes with story and heavy psycho shit. I would be curious how many scenes people actually consider fappable, in my case that would be like 10%? Maybe I'm picky but in most NTR that do ntr right that would be above 30% and in good ones 50-60ish ?


Uh... Luca was stopped but not by Harry.

I'm playing it right now, loaded my aya save and im... give me a second.

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[ZagorTeNay]

I fast scrolled through some ending selection: Hero are "good" ( well, relatively) endings for Harry, with Laura/Luca getting some karma at the end.
What's the difference between this and normal Aya ending?
Can anyone do a brief summary of all the endings?

 

[WatsonJohn]

Ok the embargo is off ... LoL the update was so bad, it was like a parody of what was the game so far. And wtf you chose Harry pov but you get to see other characters pov? Whats the point of Harry pov if I'm not getting his pov in the most important moments? Feels like fan creation imo.

Game went from "Guys do you even want a good ending?" to "let's make alternative good ending for every route". Did you know there is more good endings now than bad ones ? Where this will lead? lol there is still the one titled "Good" left , wonder whats that about. Harry will challenge Luca to sex marathon and win ?

But I guess HC had to appease certain people. It was the longest game has gone without leak. As we have learned it is because the update was "so good", meaning the previous leaks happened because the updates didn't satisfy certain people.

The "good" endings aren't really good. Harry still gets fucked in the end. Aya ending is the only real good ending. Harry and Aya got a happy ending and Laura and Luca got fucked. Dunno what you want. All previous endings are bad, just different degrees of bad. Now you want yet another bad ending? "Guys do you want another bad ending? Here I'll add one on this heaping pile."

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Some people (minority) do get off on depression and self-inserting as the cuck or whatever. But most people who like Japanese style NTR stories get off on the fucked up situation, depravity, and corruption. Maybe it's hard to understand for obligate self-inserters, but you can read stories without identifying with the MC or getting invested in his success. It's basically getting off someone else's misery and typical male dom scenario of some female being corrupted by a big dick baddie.

As for why we might not like "good endings," it's because it loses all that depravity and corruption elements. It can be a cool plot twist or something extra which can be appreciated for its narrative appeal rather than for fapping needs, but that's a different mind space that we have to switch into. We're certainly not gonna be fapping to some good guy overcoming his problems and having lovey dovey sex with his girlfriend in an NTR game.

Dunno, I do like FemProtag games with corruption/cheating as the main theme, but not when the girl gets turned into cumdump once she sees a penis bigger than 3 inches for the first time in her life. But to each of their own(especially since half of the vanilla games use the same trope but played from different perspective)

Some of the games(on rare occasions though) in here end up making you interested in story rather than sexual stuff.
I mean like...different outcomes give a different sorts of feeling to the story, right? Having the same "took your town and your girl" endings are just meh...Just like harem stories where dude gets to bang 50 girls and have 0 conflict. Boring.

Edit: yup, I'm one of these dudes who likes to see story and character development in porn games. Since writing in your "usual" games and movies lately is mediocre at best.

My own theory which anyone can disagree with and I'd still hold as strong as ever is there's a huge connection between anime fandom and these games. If you took the exact same characters, setting, and story, and ported it to Daz models it wouldn't have nearly the same fanbase. I would postulate there's an infinitesimally small number of people that enjoy playing games like this who also aren't huge anime fans.

I don't think the the story styles lend themselves to much inherent fapability-I come from the preference of sharing games and it'd be 20x more fapable to see these illicit liasons take place in person, not imagined as some mental worst-case-scenario-exercise. Furthermore, once a gf/wife goes full-throttle down the turboslut path and treats bf/husband like crap, little taboo or illicitness remains because she's no longer invested in the relationship. You can't really 'cheat' in a relationship if that relationship hardly exists anymore.

Overall, those who delight in these games are comfortable with the story tropes, themes, motifs, because they're common in other media they consume (just without the porn persay). So it's more of a 'comfort food' kind of game.

 

[balanoxen]

NTR isn't generally realistic for multiple reasons, a semi serious answer is post nut clarity in men. Hormones can cloud peoples judgement slightly, when that veil gets ripped away from males the clarity can easily make them regret choices.

Of course that doesn't apply to males universally as guys will react differently to it for a variety of reasons.