That means the new is not out, and here I think the aya route's first update is live
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There is a poll going on right now on HC's patreon called "Meaningful Poll: Should Aya's route have a good ending?" and i wonder what the options are and which one is winning.
- Jul 20, 2018
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55% of the votes are yes for a good ending. The option is literally "Yes, she deserves a good ending."
45% of the votes are no for the good ending. The option is literally "No, she only deserves Luca's dick."
That said, based on the post, H-Self doesn't really WANT to write a good ending... much like they didn't want to write a good ending for the original APBLU. It genuinely shows in the writing that he didn't want to write that ending, so I'm personally voting for no because I'm not into forcing people to write things that they don't really feel.
That said... Each tier has different voting power. So it's not just a matter of the most votes for an option, but also for the most votes from the higher tiers.
So keep that in mind. H-Self has access to that info, but the patrons do not.
- Sep 22, 2018
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Yeah,that was so low effort that it felt like it was just added to give an additional ending.My assessment of HC so far is that he really hates writing good endings and hates giving MC any agency like he is allergic to it.This time around,i feel like he might just ignore the polls even if yes for good ending gets more votes.Is there any info on how long the Aya's route is planned to be?I am wondering if it's going to be a short one or will be as long as Laura's route.
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He added it in because much like this time, he put up a poll for it, and a bunch of people voted for it.
He doesn't like writing good endings in NTR content, not in general. Based on his overall posts, he genuinely likes content where the hero overcomes adversity and comes out on top and so on... but he feels that this sort of story-line is incompatible with NTR. He also doesn't believe that the contrast others people see actually adds anything to a NTR VN and the core target audiences for NTR. Hell, it's why the Aya endings, which are overall fairly positive for Harry, even if not for Laura, exist. Because Aya took life in his head and beat his writing muse until she came out on top every time.
At least, that's what I got from the long posts he has over there on the subject. Personally, I don't care either way. I'm here for smut and moral degeneration, the NTR part isn't particularly relevant either way.
Also, Aya's Route will be about as long, if not a little longer than Laura's, based on HC's assessment so far. They don't know for sure, but there's definitely a need for buildup, both for Harry and Aya to grow genuinely closer and for Luca to have the time to actually fuck things up. There's going to be a lot less choices, possibly none at all if there's only going to be the one bad ending.
I want to know if this poll is referring to whether the ending of Aya's route is a good ending or if it is about whether there should be a good ending added among the multiple endings in Aya's route. Because if Aya's route is as long as or even longer than Laura's route, it is highly unlikely to have just one ending.
- Jul 20, 2018
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Here's the whole post from Patreon. Make of it what you will, but from what I'm reading, there really WILL be just one ending, or two if the Good Ending thing wins.
Just my cents.
People misunderstand what 'good ending' means.
So.
NTR really by definition cannot have a good ending, even when the MC has their comeuppance, that is what a lot of people seem to misunderstand, but that I, as a sadist, can see.
When someone mentions moral corruption...the sex thing does not hits me.
Now one in which a good man or someone who could be a good man becoming a Complete Monster at worst or a Cynical POS?
Yes! Yes! They are now dangerous, it is a presence who can kill and destroy. There is only the pleasure of suffering upon all and the denial of happiness over everyone, including MC and the villain, where the villain comes out with less and with far more pain than before...
Why I would like an ending where everyone just gets fucked over? In which Harry comes out traumatized further, in which Laura is broken in the worst, most dark way possible, at almost suicidal level, Aya falling deeper into the darkness she wished to avoid using Harry and truly becoming an horrible monster and Luca ultimately coming out far more wounded, sadder, and pathetic than before?
Because it fits to what NTR is. Which is Misery Porn. That is why I think most NTR authors should explore the idea further. No one wins, everyone loses, pain is shared, nothing is learned. All for nothing, but hey!
Sex scenes still!
That even applies for a 'Harry Revenge' ending.
Why? Because at the end of the day, what MC is doing is to share his pain and hate on those who pushed pain and hate on them. That is not a good ending at all when you stop to think about it. He didn't get any happier, he just made them feel pain in exchange and the tale ends with everyone becoming a sad sack of crap.
Luca could be happy with such results...except the idea is he losing as well.
People misunderstand what 'good ending' means.
So.
NTR really by definition cannot have a good ending, even when the MC has their comeuppance, that is what a lot of people seem to misunderstand, but that I, as a sadist, can see.
When someone mentions moral corruption...the sex thing does not hits me.
Now one in which a good man or someone who could be a good man becoming a Complete Monster at worst or a Cynical POS?
Yes! Yes! They are now dangerous, it is a presence who can kill and destroy. There is only the pleasure of suffering upon all and the denial of happiness over everyone, including MC and the villain, where the villain comes out with less and with far more pain than before...
Why I would like an ending where everyone just gets fucked over? In which Harry comes out traumatized further, in which Laura is broken in the worst, most dark way possible, at almost suicidal level, Aya falling deeper into the darkness she wished to avoid using Harry and truly becoming an horrible monster and Luca ultimately coming out far more wounded, sadder, and pathetic than before?
Because it fits to what NTR is. Which is Misery Porn. That is why I think most NTR authors should explore the idea further. No one wins, everyone loses, pain is shared, nothing is learned. All for nothing, but hey!
Sex scenes still!
That even applies for a 'Harry Revenge' ending.
Why? Because at the end of the day, what MC is doing is to share his pain and hate on those who pushed pain and hate on them. That is not a good ending at all when you stop to think about it. He didn't get any happier, he just made them feel pain in exchange and the tale ends with everyone becoming a sad sack of crap.
Luca could be happy with such results...except the idea is he losing as well.
I meant everything we have here - since he asked in this thread I assumed he doesn't have access to the patreon.
Perhaps I misunderstood what he meant, though...
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I didn't understand what Laure wants Harry to understand. Can anyone explain it to me. I read through some of the post but still didn't get it. What I see is all 4 characters are fucked up in head from the beginning. I don't think she wanted him to understand that she is not as perfect as he thinks she is. I think at this point she is already corrupted but haven't realized it yet. Cause Luca may have influenced her at this point. And I think she is the most depraved of them all.
For Android what I have to do to see bonus scene in the game after downloading file
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I mostly just made a quick template for a Netorase experience based on what I remember of this game's story, so it may be similar. I've honestly been on a bit of a netorase binge recently which is why I thought about the opportunity here for it with Aya's strong personality.
- May 9, 2020
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HangoverCat Just made a poll if we want a good ending for Aya lets go guys and gals ! vote for Yes
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