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edem1978

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Hello is there a program how I can translate the game into German I have always used MTOOL but this time it is over 10mb and does not work
 

Alfius

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I have a question. Before I go any further, to be clear - I'm not game bashing. I'm just curious about what draws people to this game?

I tried it, and put in a few hours before it was apparent to me that if I played any further I was risking the loss of both eyes. Not from eye strain, but rather the real possibility that I'd grab the sharpest object I could find and stab myself in one and/or both eyes to end my pain ;) Of course I'm exaggerating, and I was probably in an impatient state when I played, so at the time this game certainly wasn't for me. Here's what I didn't like: grindy with little reward , and when you were rewarded the scenes felt clunky and dated. I also found it difficult to know where to go and how to continue some quests. After I stopped playing the game I did some reading and found that following the walkthrough seems to be essential... wish I'd done that earlier. One of the reasons I played this was due to the high ratings.

So what's the appeal... is it nostalgic; harkening back to the days of older style games - or the grind-like time required? I'm genuinely interested in knowing why people are so into this game?

Edited: In hindsight I could see why my post might have been interpreted as a bit harsh, which truly wasn't my intent. I've revised it a tad.
OK so here is the thing.

First of all it's not a VN, but a proper game, so getting to sex scenes takes a bit of effort initially. You start of with Zero points towards any of the girls. So to get into their pants is not so easy initially. A big part of the game is playing to progress with various girls.

Having said that. Once you achieve critical mass, you can play the game fucking girls all the time. You can pretty much fuck every single female character in the game. If she is in the game, you will have a path to fuck her eventually. (Even if it's not included yet.)

To get to the WT. I believe you will be able to play the game successfully without a WT, but
1 it will take longer to achieve success and
2 In some instances (like any other game) you might not get the outcome you want. (and might even miss scenes with some girls)

So as much as I want to play it without a WT, my desire to see all the content available is more, so I consult the WT regularly, to make sure I do not fuckup with a certain girl,

But I'm pretty sure that even without the WT, you will still easily get to 70-80% of the content.

Dated graphics...sure that is a valid complaint. But It's basically a full-on game where the part of the charm is to win over girls with an appropriate reward. The graphics fit the overall feel of the game and does not feel out of place.)

Basically it's fun to play with hours with of game time. A VN is over in an hour or 2 and then it's on to the next one. With this one if you wait for 2-3 updates, it can keep you busy for most of the weekend!
 

Alfius

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All of those need player action/purposely inaction.

It's kinda like complaining in DOOM that standing still during a boss and not doing anything kills your character.
It's been a very long time since I as at that stage. I'm not sure, but I think if you leave Frisha she ends up with Dave...not sure (I never tested that)
Henry for Penny returns for sure. And you might get busy on another quest that is very time consuming.
There is also simple choices you can do wrong that can cause do wrong that can cause unwanted outcomes.

But I will give you this, the game does make it pretty clear what leads to NTR. But if you are not playing with a WT, you will miss content 100% and even possible threesomes.

So depending on your definition of a "failed quest" if an unwanted outcome counts as 'failed', you can easily fail a quest when not following the WT. (Murder investigation in the Monastery is a prime example)
 

lenny007

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How do I transfer saves from verson to version?
I copied Save folder from 0.5.9.0 to 0.5.9.1 and successfully loaded it. But if I try so save it again, it still writes that the vesrion is 0.5.9.0, even though the 0.5.9.1 version is running.
 

harem.king

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No it's certainly not... 50 is neutral any value above is considered Evil any value below is considered good.
> No it's certainly not
> Then LITERALLY quote me

Bruh, seriously. You literally agreed with me.
Any Character has a corruption limit... for Isha for example there is a story explanation that she and her Champion get stronger if the Value is above 100.
1. You literally quoted me explicitly stating MC is measured differently. So you going around to repeating it back to me is redundant.

2. I did forget to mention Isha the goddess of corruption is ALSO measured differently too. so fine. she is too.

3. No, there is no story acknowledgement of what the number are. Isha and MC do not know that MC's has a corruption score of "100 points". just like there is no story acknowledge of the exact strength score. A person might be strong or corrupt, but that is not the same as having a specific numerical value.
You can easily get above 100 Corruption by selling Cum vials to Lucious, so there is no hard coded limit at 100...
Congrats, you found a second bug.
Either that, or selling cum vials to lucious and what I mentioned are the only two methods that work correctly and all other corruption gains are bugged in that they don't go over 100.

Because a lack of consistency in the cap indicates bugs.
 

SonaGate

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Can you play the game and find all content without the guide? Looking at a guide is so boring
 

Evangelion-01

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> No it's certainly not
> Then LITERALLY quote me

Bruh, seriously. You literally agreed with me.

1. You literally quoted me explicitly stating MC is measured differently. So you going around to repeating it back to me is redundant.

2. I did forget to mention Isha the goddess of corruption is ALSO measured differently too. so fine. she is too.

3. No, there is no story acknowledgement of what the number are. Isha and MC do not know that MC's has a corruption score of "100 points". just like there is no story acknowledge of the exact strength score. A person might be strong or corrupt, but that is not the same as having a specific numerical value.

Congrats, you found a second bug.
Either that, or selling cum vials to lucious and what I mentioned are the only two methods that work correctly and all other corruption gains are bugged in that they don't go over 100.

Because a lack of consistency in the cap indicates bugs.
Just because you missinterpred a game mechanic doesn't mean it's a bug.
The system was ALWAYS setup as a numeral value without a hard coded top.
You keep running in circles saying a feature is a bug because you want it to be one.
And I was talking about Ishas score... if you are her Champion and her Corruption is 100+ you get a Bonus of some kind, while you get a malus when it's below 30.
where to see mc corruption points?
More or less on the top right.
It actually shows your alignment, which CAN be 7 or more score points below or above MCs true corruption score
Can you play the game and find all content without the guide? Looking at a guide is so boring
Depends on your playstyle... but mostly the answer is yes... it might take longer than checking the guide every now and than
 
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Ntrsugar

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Goblin Showcase And Vote

This week I've been working on the 3 goblin models and can now present you the results.
In the course of this, I would like to introduce you to the characters and ask you to vote on which of the 3 characters should receive content in the upcoming update that goes beyond an introduction of the characteristics and dialogs of the frame story. But as you will see by their description I will go a step further with this vote and will also shape the story of the goblin tribe to a degree around the outcome of this vote!

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1. Ugotha - As queen of the goblin tribe, it was she who was responsible for their situation in the service of the dark elves. There is a rumor among the goblins that she originated from the union of a dark elf with a goblin. It was also she who upset the hierarchy within the tribe by having the former chieftain Snik brought down by a jealous rival. Will she now also draw the MC into her net to take advantage of his appearance?

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2. Snikka - Eldest daughter of Ugotha and the former chieftain Snik. After her father was killed, she lost any right of succession to the throne. She was kept small by her mother and at the same time condemned to the role of huntress. Although she is dependent on her mother, who shields her from the greedy eyes of the male goblins, she has never forgiven her for the shame of her existence. Will she accept her fate or overthrow her mother with the help of the MC?

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3. Nibblina - Youngest daughter of Ugotha and Snikka's halfsister. Like her father, she is completely subservient to her mother and follows her every instruction, at least on the surface. At the same time, she is aware of her position as heiress and uses this to order other goblins and even her sister around in her favor. While her mother believes she has her under control, she weaves her own web and is already planning her own rise to become queen of the tribe. Will this finally happen with the arrival of the MC?


So much for the presentation, I'm looking forward to the outcome of this vote, which will end next Thursday midnight (ETC)! (Votes on Patreon and Subscribestar will be counted together)

In addition to working on the female models, I also reworked the male goblin skin to match the female version, and I also started collecting and creating assets for the goblin village and the lower levels of the mine. Today I've started working on the maps but that will probably take up into the coming week.
Other goals for the coming week is the work on Bianca's combat sprites and some skills fitting for her character. Her motivation for joining the MC on this quest is, of course, the search for surviving dwarves in the mine.
So other than completing the maps and sprites my goal for the coming week is to also fill the new maps with events and interaction. Since we're in a mine that will also mean new ore which will lead to new equipment. I plan to make the goblins the by now strongest enemies in the game so new gear to fight them properly will be necessary.

That's all for now, I wish you all a nice weekend!
Sadly for the 1st time I think, they all could be a little more fukable.
 

Lupiscanis

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Because a lack of consistency in the cap indicates bugs.
You could look at this as a bug, but the only way it's going to negatively impact the player is if they wanted to lower the corruption value after raising it. Otherwise it's a very minor issue that really has no relevance to gameplay.

If you'd like to report it, join the discord and do so, or one of us can do it for you if you feel incredibly strongly about not joining a particular discord for some reason. Chyos is pretty good about checking the bugreport threads and dealing with issues, I just don't think they check this thread because, well, it's 1700+ pages now.

*edit* - quoted the wrong person
 
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Lupiscanis

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Hello is there a program how I can translate the game into German I have always used MTOOL but this time it is over 10mb and does not work
My MTOOL didn't have a problem with the size, but goddamn did en-US > Deutsch take forever to translate (a good 20 minutes at least). Hopefully this helps.

 

harem.king

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Just because you missinterpred a game mechanic doesn't mean it's a bug.
facepalm.
The bug is the inconsistency.
Either the bug is that some go above 100
Or the bug is that some don't above 100
either way it is a bug because the mechanics are inconsistent with themselves.

I don't understand how this is confusing to you
 

Evangelion-01

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facepalm.
The bug is the inconsistency.
Either the bug is that some go above 100
Or the bug is that some don't above 100
either way it is a bug because the mechanics are inconsistent with themselves.

I don't understand how this is confusing to you
?!?
Wait are we still talking about Player corruption or have we switched to girl Corruption?
Because the only Characters with a Corruption limit are NPCs whoms limits are pushed with each increase of your relationships with them.
You talked about precantage values when there is no indication of such, only growing or falling numbers without any unit indicating this being %, rubber ducks or sins... so yes this is quiet confusing.
Than you go on about other NPCs being handled differently and now you are complaining that Corruption with some Characters doesn't even get up to 100.
 

harem.king

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Wait are we still talking about Player corruption or have we switched to girl Corruption?
We never talked about girl corruption.
Except for mentioning that they differ from the MC Corruption.
Because the only Characters with a Corruption limit are NPCs whoms limits are pushed with each increase of your relationships with them.
which is irrelevant to the MC
You talked about precantage values
For the MC and only for the MC.
Based on the fact that his value goes from 0 to 100.
Percent literally means "out of 100".
By definition any scale from 0 to 100 is by definition a percentage scale. And since the MC's scale is 0 to 100 it is by definition a percentage value.
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Than you go on about other NPCs being handled differently and now you are complaining that Corruption with some Characters doesn't even get up to 100.
I only mention them as being utterly irrelevant. The MC goes from 0 to 100. Except for 2 specific instances where he can exceed 100.
So either those 2 specific instances are a bug. Or all the other cases where MC cannot exceed 100 are a bug.
 

XSelLint

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Guess I messed up on my Save. I got locked out from Penny's Quest Rebuilding the Farm by Giron's Quest The Next Baron of Kirlic because I sneaked in and listened to Dave and Giron about Liandra being Teennapped. I need to Inspect the Carriage and ask for Gold or Julia in order to talk about other problems and Penny's.
Just so a heads up if you're still deciding on asking for Julia or Gold or the Hot Scene with Julia and Jasmine taking Julia's Virginity and tell her you're not interested then later ask Giron for her marriage.
 

cpeople377@

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Correct.

NTR is very compartmentalized in this game. NTR with one girl does not affect anyone else.

There are some things you can do that affect a whole Group of Women, like in Rhuma you can let all the girls be NTR'd that does not affect anyone else.


I sometimes do a quick NTR What-if Scenario just for fun (For instance purposefully losing in battle)
The craziest one I have done was with Penny and Dave. That is a fucking hard NTR scene to achieve. It takes 90-120 ingame days to achieve that. (I had to do a lot of time skipping)

As a rule I don't like NTR, but it's fun to do a quick What-if. Kate is the best girl to do What-if NTR scenarios. I like her character in game, but you can let her sleep with (Thomas, Gangsters, Soldiers, Rick and the Blackjack Merchant - Did I miss anyone?) The best about her, is unlike other characters, she still considers you her GF, even if you let her do everything!

I actually loves the way this games handles relationships. It's not full on NTR (Sometimes it is), but you can do anything in between Full out romance up until full NTR. I mean you can even cuck existing characters...I have not tried the Henry-Penny Cuck route.
This is true KATE is made for NTR. I NTRed every woman expect the step family. U know like to keep things between family
 

Evangelion-01

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We never talked about girl corruption.
Except for mentioning that they differ from the MC Corruption.

which is irrelevant to the MC

For the MC and only for the MC.
Based on the fact that his value goes from 0 to 100.
Percent literally means "out of 100".
By definition any scale from 0 to 100 is by definition a percentage scale. And since the MC's scale is 0 to 100 it is by definition a percentage value.
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I only mention them as being utterly irrelevant. The MC goes from 0 to 100. Except for 2 specific instances where he can exceed 100.
So either those 2 specific instances are a bug. Or all the other cases where MC cannot exceed 100 are a bug.
Honestly I am done arguing with you about this... if in your mindscape Corruption is a percentage value play the game like it... doesn't make it right and even less of a bug that this is not the case and the game handling it differently.
But if it makes you happy pretend it is.
 
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