RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.9.7 Test] [Chyos]

[mercytea]

Hey! Chyos. I supposed I found a bug. The version of the game I played is v0.5.9.1a. When "sit by the fire" and "attack by orcs" occur simultaneously in Rumah, the game will not be working.

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PS: Another bug I found. In the battle, you can't choose which one to heal by the arrow key but the mouse.
PPS: Another bug to report. You still have to pay for your night's stay in the servants' room even if you've already done the kitchen job.
PPS: the screenshot I showed is a bug that Raaisha has not married to MC yet so her breasts shouldn't be shown in public.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

So I just started and I'm curious. After doing the prologue, I noticed some of the quests are about improving relations with the various LI. But are there consequences for ignoring that and fucking off to the woods to grind, jerk it, and/or do random shit? Like does stuff progress regardless? Or does it come to a standstill because I haven't done anything? And I noticed there is a day and year counter. Does that progression of time trigger/open up other things?

Essentially am I safe to go spank in the woods until I'm ready to progress?

 

[ilsc69]

The claim that MC's corruption is a number between 0 and 200 is a completely different argument.
First, please note before that I said I am only talking about MC and that NPCs have different scales.

As for the 200 scale...
Gwen the witch (isha, goddess of corruption) does not give a 200 cap.
From her walktrhrough

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I do recall that way back in the day when the mechanic was first introduced that using the combat skills would let you exceed 100 corruption of gwen (not on the MC), but this was fixed.
As of 0.5.9.1 I just tried it in multiple manual combats using all witchcraft skills that are supposed to raise corruption.
They raised Witch's corruption to 100 and no further.

The actual scale for the MC is:
a. The MC starts out with a corruption value of exactly 50 in a new game which is explicitly noted as being neutral.
b. If your corruption goes below 50 you are explicitly noted as pure.
c. If you corruption goes above 50 you are explicitly noted as corrupt
d. Most sources of corruption cap out at a value of 100. Only two known methods exceed 100 corruption for MC is the two mentioned here earlier.

Are you transferring save from one version to another version. Or new game in 5.9.1?

That just shows you haven't fought enough high Level Enemies though.
Enemies do have a Level cap so eventually MC can overshadow them easily.

You are mixing up alignment with Corruption here.
Corruption starts at a lower Level.
MC can increase his alignment without raising his corruption and vice versa.

Short answer... because you keep jumping over the place contradicting yourself and justify it with explaining your argument... which was lost long ago it seems

True. Alignment vs Corruption are different things, corruption value vs alignment value.

Some noblewoman from the city, dad was her bobyguard and being a chad seduced her.
This is explained as you play the game.
Assuming you view the real story and not the censored for shitreaon version.

speaking, what happened to the discord, there is no longer a link to it on the first post.
Did it get locked to only be for supporters?

His father was never explained at all. Marcus died without telling us that.

 

[mercytea]

So I just started and I'm curious. After doing the prologue, I noticed some of the quests are about improving relations with the various LI. But are there consequences for ignoring that and fucking off to the woods to grind, jerk it, and/or do random shit? Like does stuff progress regardless? Or does it come to a standstill because I haven't done anything? And I noticed there is a day and year counter. Does that progression of time trigger/open up other things?

Essentially am I safe to go spank in the woods until I'm ready to progress?

Normally you can do what you want. Just be careful about the recommended level of each quest. If you want the best harem result you need to check the walkthrough.

 

[ilsc69]

I am assuming you read it with the correct words instead of the patreon censorship words.

Thanks. a shame, he could have just separated out certain channels to supporters only.
Now it means he drastically reduces the amount of free bug testers he would have been getting

Wait there are now 2 version of it. Oh come on! Why!

So I just started and I'm curious. After doing the prologue, I noticed some of the quests are about improving relations with the various LI. But are there consequences for ignoring that and fucking off to the woods to grind, jerk it, and/or do random shit? Like does stuff progress regardless? Or does it come to a standstill because I haven't done anything? And I noticed there is a day and year counter. Does that progression of time trigger/open up other things?

Essentially am I safe to go spank in the woods until I'm ready to progress?

For most of the game yes. Just disable NTR and do that whatever you want. Very few quests are time limited to fail if you don't disabled NTR. I hate it so disabled.

Chyos would have to name such mods though and based on what I heard of one of the guys before he quit, it was a hellscape where people were ganging up and openly insult and attack people that wouldn't be part of their group.

Meme comes to mind. Buzzlightyear.

"Idiots, idiots everywhere!"

Can't they just stay in their own camps. Nope have to throw rocks on others when they are sitting in glass castles themselves.

I mean by that logic Giron or dave would have a right to hte throne aswell since they got enobled by the current King

If those assholes can be nobles to be king. I am noble supreme compared to them for being a King!

So you just have to power through literally 5+ hours of watching turn based battle guys smack each other, until you hit the level cap and the battles speed up?

I feel like I've done everything I can as far as upgrading my weapons and armor but the game is insistent on keeping the combat slow and boring. Why?

I use auto battles to just run through the enemies after I have Tia and Lyvia in my team. Leveling up becomes easy that way instead of turn based battles.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

For most of the game yes. Just disable NTR and do that whatever you want. Very few quests are time limited to fail if you don't disabled NTR. I hate it so disabled.

Once upon a time I might've disabled it but eh. I mean I despise NTR as a concept and when it's a forced focal point. But I have no issue with it as a punishment (just more motivation to do it right) for fucking up. I mean as long as the mistake that leads to it isn't dumb as all hell. Like making an inconsequential choice that somehow using 32d lvl logic. Ends up with a girl getting dug out... because reasons. But having browsed through the thread. It seems that you won't just magically trip and fall into it so.

I was just wondering if I was free to ignore and do whatever I want in the early game without worry or not.

 

[harem.king]

Are you transferring save from one version to another version. Or new game in 5.9.1?

transfer save.

His father was never explained at all. Marcus died without telling us that.

You can find a letter.

Wait there are now 2 version of it. Oh come on! Why!

Because shitreon sucks and requires censorship

 

[harem.king]

But having browsed through the thread. It seems that you won't just magically trip and fall into it so.

Maybe not the 1st time, or the 2nd time... but what about the 50th time? 100th time?
all you have to do is slip up once.

In fact, I have accidentally slipped up, but thanks to the setting disabling it nothing happened.
for an example where I slipped up:

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I accidentally triggered that scene when myra was at sub 5 corruption.
Her dialog sounded... off, so I double checked and found what the walkthrough said.
NTR was disabled so it probably wouldn't have amounted to anything.
But I Reloaded anyways and made sure to get her corruption above 5 before doing that Heather scene.

IIRC there are a couple of other easy slip places.
Selling your cum, getting caught fucking the succubus in the catacombs, planting cumwine in some places to accelerate a girl's corruption... those can all lead to NTR if not disabled in settings.

 

[storm1051787]

His father was never explained at all. Marcus died without telling us that.

If you turn Incest on Marcus is the mc's dad and he had an affair with mc's mom back when he was her bodyguard. If you turn it off he was just her bodyguard and simply had a crush on her.

 

[Evangelion-01]

IIRC there are a couple of other easy slip places.
Selling your cum, getting caught fucking the succubus in the catacombs, planting cumwine in some places to accelerate a girl's corruption... those can all lead to NTR if not disabled in settings.

None of these can be considered "a slip up" though... Not sure how this could be considered as such if it requires deliberate interaction by the Player.
I get the Mira needs 5 Corruption requirement, but if you paid any attention to her story so far this should really not come as a surprise... plus if you already unlocked the Mira/Emily 3-some her corruption is more than sufficient to allow this.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Maybe not the 1st time, or the 2nd time... but what about the 50th time? 100th time?
all you have to do is slip up once.

In fact, I have accidentally slipped up, but thanks to the setting disabling it nothing happened.
for an example where I slipped up:

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I accidentally triggered that scene when myra was at sub 5 corruption.
Her dialog sounded... off, so I double checked and found what the walkthrough said.
NTR was disabled so it probably wouldn't have amounted to anything.
But I Reloaded anyways and made sure to get her corruption above 5 before doing that Heather scene.

IIRC there are a couple of other easy slip places.
Selling your cum, getting caught fucking the succubus in the catacombs, planting cumwine in some places to accelerate a girl's corruption... those can all lead to NTR if not disabled in settings.

....the fuck. Well that is quite the unexpected potential minefield. Makes me curious and excited for how deep the game is. But I suppose that confirms things. Not a standard harem game. No free love without a little coercion. Little disappointed but it is what it is. You cheat on them, they decide to leave and/or cheat back. If that's the extent of it, it at least makes sense. What I was talking about was more like. You make a date for 8 instead of 9, then that somehow leads to the girl taking dick. Like dumb shit that makes no sense and leaves you confused on how it even connected. Granted it does throw a wrench in my original plan of pure fuckery. Wanted no corruption but if that's what it takes.

But I very much appreciate the info. Lord knows I would've just engaged in all types of fuck shit. Then got caught up and confused about what happened.

 

[harem.king]

None of these can be considered "a slip up" though... Not sure how this could be considered as such if it requires deliberate interaction by the Player.

Those are deliberate actions, but not ones that are deliberately choosing NTR.
... actually IIRC fucking the succubus is not even necessarily deliberate. doesn't she rape you if she beats you in combat?

I get the Mira needs 5 Corruption requirement, but if you paid any attention to her story so far this should really not come as a surprise... plus if you already unlocked the Mira/Emily 3-some her corruption is more than sufficient to allow this.

The corruption requirement is not a surprise, the surprise was being caught fucking a girl in her bedroom because another girl peeped on us.

....the fuck. Well that is quite the unexpected potential minefield. Makes me curious and excited for how deep the game is. But I suppose that confirms things. Not a standard harem game. No free love without a little coercion. Little disappointed but it is what it is. You cheat on them, they decide to leave and/or cheat back. If that's the extent of it, it at least makes sense. What I was talking about was more like. You make a date for 8 instead of 9, then that somehow leads to the girl taking dick. Like dumb shit that makes no sense and leaves you confused on how it even connected. Granted it does throw a wrench in my original plan of pure fuckery. Wanted no corruption but if that's what it takes.

But I very much appreciate the info. Lord knows I would've just engaged in all types of fuck shit. Then got caught up and confused about what happened.

Well, you CAN disable NTR in settings. then it magically transforms the game into a straightforward harem.

 

[<<Solaria>>]

....the fuck. Well that is quite the unexpected potential minefield. Makes me curious and excited for how deep the game is. But I suppose that confirms things. Not a standard harem game. No free love without a little coercion. Little disappointed but it is what it is. You cheat on them, they decide to leave and/or cheat back. If that's the extent of it, it at least makes sense. What I was talking about was more like. You make a date for 8 instead of 9, then that somehow leads to the girl taking dick. Like dumb shit that makes no sense and leaves you confused on how it even connected. Granted it does throw a wrench in my original plan of pure fuckery. Wanted no corruption but if that's what it takes.

But I very much appreciate the info. Lord knows I would've just engaged in all types of fuck shit. Then got caught up and confused about what happened.

.......The games name literally is "A Struggle with Sin" what did you even expect ?

Every woman holding hands dancing in circles and singing kumbaya while they s*ck you off ? That's not how harem works !
Males who have harems, is either superior beings or rich ass hell, that who can provide for them (translation: who can afford it). in that case, They ladies in the game want's Mc's Big D*ck, literally !

The corruption part is inevitable in some quests. Every Struggle and dialogs and the interactions in the game, makes it even more real life like.
So i'm not surprised from "Mira's" reaction if you cheated on her or corrupted her !

 

[Snugglepuff]

ilsc69 Multi-quote is a thing... Stop spamming replies.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

.......The games name literally is "A Struggle with Sin" what did you even expect ?

Every woman holding hands dancing in circles and singing kumbaya while they s*ck you off ? That's not how harem works !
Males who have harems, is either superior beings or rich ass hell, that who can provide for them (translation: who can afford it). in that case, They ladies in the game want's Mc's Big D*ck, literally !

The corruption part is inevitable in some quests. Every Struggle and dialogs and the interactions in the game, makes it even more real life like.
So i'm not surprised from "Mira's" reaction if you cheated on her or corrupted her !

And there's literally a show called Happy Tree Friends. Do me a favor and go watch it. Then report back how much the name matches expectations. Because last I checked, a name can be a descriptor. Not necessarily a full break down of what will or will not occur. And what I didn't expect was the ability for NPCs to spy on you through random or scripted chance. Kicking off an ntr route. Hence me saying "Makes me curious and excited for how deep the game is."

For the rest of that... I have no idea what you're trying to get at. Because it has nothing to do with what I wrote. Nor does it make any sense in general. Because how a harem will work. Will depend on the game. I didn't know how it worked in this game. Therefore, past comment. I'm glad you're not surprised about Mira. Has fuck all to do with me.

 

[Alfius]

You can invest points into Dexterity (I think?... second from the top) trait in order to raise Hit-, Crit chance AND Evade... perception is for raising crit damage, Hit chance AND Evade as far as I recall.
The thoughest enemies go to around Level 60, with both Lyvia and Tia invested in strentght, armor proficiency, Dexterity, Constitution and the rest in Perception and you won't have any issues defeating most enemies with an all out attack on a single target.
Personally I consider combat in Peasants Quest much harder since you need Potions to get some short time boost if you keep missing... AND switch to smaller weapons sometimes reduceing damage output... also your companions tend to suck (Mana regeneration either costs you plenty of mana potions or far to much time)

And just incase you didn't notice I'll raise my hand to the Question of enjoying a challenge while fighting some mobs as it's what you do most of the time when you are not running around getting stuff and cleaning up the mess of other peoples.

Maybe I'm OP in PQ, but battles there generally do not last long. The other thing in PQ is that the further you get in the game, the less time you need to fight enemies. Since you then have alternatives for pretty much all your resources (Farms, GF etc.)

The battles here are much more intense for sure.

I don't say it as a negative, but for me, the battles in PQ are not comparable to this game.

 

[Alfius]

....the fuck. Well that is quite the unexpected potential minefield. Makes me curious and excited for how deep the game is. But I suppose that confirms things. Not a standard harem game. No free love without a little coercion. Little disappointed but it is what it is. You cheat on them, they decide to leave and/or cheat back. If that's the extent of it, it at least makes sense. What I was talking about was more like. You make a date for 8 instead of 9, then that somehow leads to the girl taking dick. Like dumb shit that makes no sense and leaves you confused on how it even connected. Granted it does throw a wrench in my original plan of pure fuckery. Wanted no corruption but if that's what it takes.

But I very much appreciate the info. Lord knows I would've just engaged in all types of fuck shit. Then got caught up and confused about what happened.

Some of my personal takes. No this is not a standard Harem games. Some of the girls are jealous, but the game does not really block you from having sex with all the available girls. Corruption of the girls are not required. As far as I know you can get to sex with most of the girls without corruption.
Mira in my playthrough is still on 0% corruption.

What is nice about corruption is that the girls do get kinkier and will do anal and does not worry about the MC having sex with other girls that much and also opens up sharing.

The girls in general do not cheat on you. That only occurs if you push them into NTR (The choice for that is normally pretty clear and self-evident) or if you miss a timed event.

So I just started and I'm curious. After doing the prologue, I noticed some of the quests are about improving relations with the various LI. But are there consequences for ignoring that and fucking off to the woods to grind, jerk it, and/or do random shit? Like does stuff progress regardless? Or does it come to a standstill because I haven't done anything? And I noticed there is a day and year counter. Does that progression of time trigger/open up other things?

Essentially am I safe to go spank in the woods until I'm ready to progress?

Most events are not timed. So you can fuck off into the woods and do shit. But occasionally, there will be a timed event. One of the earliest is Emily's kidnapping where you have to pay her ransom (or resolve it) within a certain number of days.

There are not that many timed events, so you should be fine 90% of the time. A timed even will also be announced when it starts counting. (Just be aware that it only occurs when it triggers, so there will not always be reminders again).

Also most timed events does not cause something close to a game over. You can still continue as per normal, but that event then occurs without your intervention to it's natural conclusion. (It can be like an NTR type event, but NTR in this game, in that instances is not permanently, and you can normally recover from that.)

PS. I don't like NTR, but I play with it ON. Much better that way. (My opinion)
There are so many girls and most (maybe not all) NTR scenarios would need to be actively caused by you in no unclear manner (I think the text is even highlighted in red). Losing a battle cause NTR, but that does not really have an affect on the rest of the game. (However if you keep on losing, your fighting companions might develop a taste for Orc cock if you know what I'm saying....lol)

 

[caju]

Small suggestion: Chyos
Add a finance sheet to Penny's home.
It would be nice to see what she/you earn from crops / bread / eggs / mill / other
This would enable players to skip certain jobs that pay less while also making sure you stay profitable

 

[Evangelion-01]

Those are deliberate actions, but not ones that are deliberately choosing NTR.

Depends on the Action you are referring to I gues... replaceing the wine with Cumwine in Julias room, the game clearly states this'll lead to NTR, same for Ayita... actually I don't remember an instance the game isn't clear about it just before triggering the activation question.

... actually IIRC fucking the succubus is not even necessarily deliberate. doesn't she rape you if she beats you in combat?

No it doesn't count unless you choose to fuck her infront of Mira willingly once you opened the Sanctum.

The corruption requirement is not a surprise, the surprise was being caught fucking a girl in her bedroom because another girl peeped on us.

I mean the same happens shortly before she joins the church and once you have helped Frisha, so again for this particular Character this shouldn't be surprise and you are given the option to opout when Heather talks to MC.

Maybe I'm OP in PQ, but battles there generally do not last long. The other thing in PQ is that the further you get in the game, the less time you need to fight enemies. Since you then have alternatives for pretty much all your resources (Farms, GF etc.)

The battles here are much more intense for sure.

I don't say it as a negative, but for me, the battles in PQ are not comparable to this game.

Useing a 2-hander without an agility potion is bound to reduce Hitrate to around 50% at best though... fight an enemy with natural evade and you are better off to switch to magic... which MC sucks at aswell.
Either way just saying AswS is better balanced for the ammount of powerful weapons you can own and equip.

 

[harem.king]

.......The games name literally is "A Struggle with Sin" what did you even expect ?

From a name like that I expect wholesome game with no sin and hand holding.
Just like how I expect every game that has the words "love" or "harem" in the name to be an NTR game (because 99% of the time they are).
And every country that has "democratic republic" in the name to be a brutal dicatorship.