RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.9.7 Test] [Chyos]

[Satyr90]

I guess no corruption runs are for people who don’t care much about sex and want to keep things extremely vanilla

I'm going for a Love/Harem route and there are specific characters that I'd prefer not to corrupt. For example, I'm hesitant about corrupting people like Penny and Emily. Primarily because they come off naturally as "loving" and turning them into cock obsessed bimbos just doesn't seem compatible with my playthrough. However, I realize that there's some content that's only available through corruption like Emily's anal scene/Kitchen content. But at the same time, I'm not particularly a fan of the dialog changes. The struggle is real... Although I love that with Frisha you can raise her affection up and avoid the major dialog changes while at the same time unlocking the content. I just wish Chyos would do that for some of the other girls as well.

 

[Satyr90]

The dialogue changes and they become addicted to the MC's cock, but that doesn't exclude the love they feel for the MC.

I think Chyos needs to remind people of this with his dialogue choices. For example, with Emily her dialog changes from "my handsome man" to something like "let me see that cock". It wouldn't be difficult to slip in some affectionate words in between the endless sex. Like the morning after, or some optional pillow talk, or something. I'm thinking the dialogue changes is what's turning off some people on the corruption path. Personally, I'd like to see something like what he did for Rick only for the girls. With Rick, you can ask him questions about the girls in the game and he gives you a general opinion. So, why no allow the MC to ask the girls questions about specific quests, content, in game lore, religion, etc. and have other conversations that don't revolve around sex. Just a thought.

 

[Satyr90]

Sure there also REAL SLUTS among the girls... but that's just how they are.

I'd think Tia would fit in that category. It doesn't take much for her to embrace her love of dick. Just saying... But it's the quick dialogue changes that has me hesitant about the other girls. With people like Kate and Clair they're constantly reminding the MC that they want to keep him in the family. There's similar dialogue is with Emily and Frisha. However, I haven't played too much of Emily's corruption content, so I don't know the full extent of it. I just don't want endless conversations to be about the MC's giant cock. I don't want to walk into a room and have a girl that the MC loves say something stupid like "hows is my horse cock doing today? Ready to give mama what she needs?" Um... Goodmorning would suffice. So, with no option to remove the corruption players have to be careful.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

I think Chyos needs to remind people of this with his dialogue choices. For example, with Emily her dialog changes from "my handsome man" to something like "let me see that cock".

I just test that. She says

"MC, my love, I've been waiting... are you coming to bed?
I want you... no... I need you with me tonight! "
>Stay with her
"Then take off these clothes...
I want you here right next to me.
There it is... I love the sight of your massive cock..."
MC: "It's not like you haven't seen me naked before..."
"I know... It's just... I don't know...
MC... please let me play with your cock! I need it badly!"

It is as I said. She becomes enchanted with the MC's cock. But that doesn't mean she doesn't love the MC anymore.

Edit: If you say that you are too tired to have sex, Emily will be understanding and will just kiss and cuddle with the MC and say "good night, my love". That's the high corruption Emily with all her scenes unlocked by the way.

 

[Clown.34]

Edit: If you say that you are too tired to have sex, Emily will be understanding and will just kiss and cuddle with the MC and say "good night, my love". That's the high corruption Emily with all her scenes unlocked by the way.

And then, in the midle of the night, she starts sucking and fking if you neglect her some nights...

 

[Satyr90]

I just test that. She says

"MC, my love, I've been waiting... are you coming to bed?
I want you... no... I need you with me tonight! "
>Stay with her
"Then take off these clothes...
I want you here right next to me.
There it is... I love the sight of your massive cock..."
MC: "It's not like you haven't seen me naked before..."
"I know... It's just... I don't know...
MC... please let me play with your cock! I need it badly!"

It is as I said. She becomes enchanted with the MC's cock. But that doesn't mean she doesn't love the MC anymore.

Edit: If you say that you are too tired to have sex, Emily will be understanding and will just kiss and cuddle with the MC and say "good night, my love". That's the high corruption Emily with all her scenes unlocked by the way.

Not as bad as I remember and your right about her being enchanted by the MC's cock. However, as a plot point, I'm still a little confused. Why would she be enchanted by his (MC) cock? Isn't the magic in the cum (Corruption) only supposed to make them more open towards sex? It's not supposed to cause addiction or create any kinky behavior, only reveal what's inside, so to speak. Why is it always "...I love the sight of your massive cock" with almost all the girls. I get that the MC has a giant horse cock and that's the main theme of 99.9% of porn games but does the dialogue have to be like that? To me it'd make more sense to have some girls be more guilty/shy/sexually restrained at first, then as you corrupt them they'd be more confident/overtly confident in their sexuality. Feeling less guilty with more corruption until finally reaching whatever desired outcome. Whether that'd be a harem, hedonistic, dom/sub path, etc.

I've noticed that specific story paths get different corruption dialogue. For example, with Tia it has less to do with the MC's big cock and more about building a harem. With Kate, Clair, Emily, Frisha, etc it has less to do with a harem (for now) and more about a big cock and keeping it in the family. I haven't gotten around to the other girls yet, I'm still playing through after the update a while back, so I'm not too sure about the others... maybe I'm wrong about the corruption. I still got to play around with it.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Why would she be enchanted by his (MC) cock? Isn't the magic in the cum (Corruption) only supposed to make them more open towards sex? It's not supposed to cause addiction or create any kinky behavior, only reveal what's inside, so to speak.

The explanation is that is the power of Isha, the Goddess of Lust. So it increases people's lust. They become more and more interested or even obsessed with sex. If they love the MC, they will love his cock. And even if they don't love him, his cock is special because Isha's power is within him (this is evident in Imawyn's corruption route - she doesn't love the MC, but couldn't bear living without his cock and his cum). Otherwise, it's even more reason to love him.

I feel like we are making this more complicated than it should be. "BItcHes lOvE mah biG DICk". Just go with that.

 

[Satyr90]

"BItcHes lOvE mah biG DICk". Just go with that.

While I agree with much of what you said, I'm thinking that this is what a lot of gamers are arguing over.

 

[Evangelion-01]

I'm going for a Love/Harem route and there are specific characters that I'd prefer not to corrupt. For example, I'm hesitant about corrupting people like Penny and Emily. Primarily because they come off naturally as "loving" and turning them into cock obsessed bimbos just doesn't seem compatible with my playthrough. However, I realize that there's some content that's only available through corruption like Emily's anal scene/Kitchen content. But at the same time, I'm not particularly a fan of the dialog changes. The struggle is real... Although I love that with Frisha you can raise her affection up and avoid the major dialog changes while at the same time unlocking the content. I just wish Chyos would do that for some of the other girls as well.

Though in Emilys case not corrupting her means you can kiss your harem goodbye.

I think Chyos needs to remind people of this with his dialogue choices. For example, with Emily her dialog changes from "my handsome man" to something like "let me see that cock". It wouldn't be difficult to slip in some affectionate words in between the endless sex. Like the morning after, or some optional pillow talk, or something. I'm thinking the dialogue changes is what's turning off some people on the corruption path. Personally, I'd like to see something like what he did for Rick only for the girls. With Rick, you can ask him questions about the girls in the game and he gives you a general opinion. So, why no allow the MC to ask the girls questions about specific quests, content, in game lore, religion, etc. and have other conversations that don't revolve around sex. Just a thought.

This likely would make the game explode both code and size wise.
You'd not only need the dialogues but also menus and variables to trigger and change them.
Rick is an early game helper telling you what to do next with a number of girls, so consider him a tutorial character that eventually gets obsolete.

Not as bad as I remember and your right about her being enchanted by the MC's cock. However, as a plot point, I'm still a little confused. Why would she be enchanted by his (MC) cock? Isn't the magic in the cum (Corruption) only supposed to make them more open towards sex? It's not supposed to cause addiction or create any kinky behavior, only reveal what's inside, so to speak. Why is it always "...I love the sight of your massive cock" with almost all the girls. I get that the MC has a giant horse cock and that's the main theme of 99.9% of porn games but does the dialogue have to be like that? To me it'd make more sense to have some girls be more guilty/shy/sexually restrained at first, then as you corrupt them they'd be more confident/overtly confident in their sexuality. Feeling less guilty with more corruption until finally reaching whatever desired outcome. Whether that'd be a harem, hedonistic, dom/sub path, etc.

I've noticed that specific story paths get different corruption dialogue. For example, with Tia it has less to do with the MC's big cock and more about building a harem. With Kate, Clair, Emily, Frisha, etc it has less to do with a harem (for now) and more about a big cock and keeping it in the family. I haven't gotten around to the other girls yet, I'm still playing through after the update a while back, so I'm not too sure about the others... maybe I'm wrong about the corruption. I still got to play around with it.

To put it easily Emily has probably the most experience with men, she had a total 3 Partners at this point and none has married her so far... she likely just understood that sex is something nice and MC is the best lover she ever had.
Penny on the other side starts exactly like that... Kate starts reluctant before turning slutty

The explanation is that is the power of Isha, the Goddess of Lust. So it increases people's lust. They become more and more interested or even obsessed with sex. If they love the MC, they will love his cock. And even if they don't love him, his cock is special because Isha's power is within him (this is evident in Imawyn's corruption route - she doesn't love the MC, but couldn't bear living without his cock and his cum). Otherwise, it's even more reason to love him.

I feel like we are making this more complicated than it should be. "BItcHes lOvE mah biG DICk". Just go with that.

Imawyn had supressed her sexually all her live, the MC breaks her damm and is the only character she can actually respect, as she can't turn him into a drooling puppet and is strong enough to oppose her... sure that's what she hates about him, same as the fact that he blackmails her into sex, but even in the corruption route it's Imawyn that eventually wants to have sex instead of giving blowjobs.
The simple fact that every girl also has a NTR Route should proove to you it's not "Bitches like my cock" but rather "Those Sluts can't be helped if they see a good cock".
I don't think you can change this end result though as one of the main points in the game are the endless crossover 3 some situations the MC can trigger.
Eventually every girl in the village knows for a fact that you have an affair with several other women.

 

[Satyr90]

Though in Emilys case not corrupting her means you can kiss your harem goodbye.

I currently have had threesomes with Emily and Frisha with Emily having zero corruption. I haven't gotten to any of the Church content yet, so I don't know what else the game has in store but so far, she's okay with it. Her willing to go along with sharing the MC and threesomes with other girls all with zero corruption has always been puzzling me. Like I said I'm hesitant to corupt them, but I know I'm going to have too eventually.

This likely would make the game explode both code and size wise.
You'd not only need the dialogues but also menus and variables to trigger and change them.
Rick is an early game helper telling you what to do next with a number of girls, so consider him a tutorial character that eventually gets obsolete.

I agree 100% and I know it's more of wishful thinking and I know that it'll never happen.

 

[Satyr90]

"Those Sluts can't be helped if they see a good cock"

But doesn't this mean that the corruption route and Love route are incompatible? How can there be loving content when you're corrupting the girls?

 

[Wolf Larsen]

The simple fact that every girl also has a NTR Route should proove to you it's not "Bitches like my cock" but rather "Those Sluts can't be helped if they see a good cock".

But doesn't this mean that the corruption route and Love route are incompatible? How can there be loving content when you're corrupting the girls?

Yep.

Consider women with high corruption in the love or non-ntr route with the MC.

Do you think they will cheat on him by jumping on the first cock that they see?

This would make this game pure NTR.

But it's not, is it? The NTR happens when the MC's actions lead them to other men. This is separated from corruption as we have been saying.

What's stopping them from jumping to another guy's cock, especially in the pure corruption route?

Because the MC is special to the point they are even okay with sharing him with other women. You might say that it's because most of them love him besides the lust that comes from corruption. This is true, but even the corruption plot route (Athia, Julia, Nyra, Ophilia, Imawyn) does not mean NTR.

You might then say that it's more because of his personality, not his magic cock. But then, the point is that the MC is really special, right?

 

[Evangelion-01]

But doesn't this mean that the corruption route and Love route are incompatible? How can there be loving content when you're corrupting the girls?

Since you have fallen prey to the misslabeling of the Stats.
Some Characters have 3 Routes but most only 2.
There is either the Love route or the NTR route, very rarely there is a girl with an actual corruption route.
What you do is reduceing the inhibition of the girls in question, which is labeled as "corruption"... however it doesn't fundamentaly change them... it's still the girls, but they don't feel ashamed of shareing their sexual fantasies with you if "corruption" raises

 

[Satyr90]

Do you think they will cheat on him by jumping on the first cock that they see?

This would make this game pure NTR.

But it's not, is it? The NTR happens when the MC's actions lead them to other men. This is separated from corruption as we have been saying.

I'm thinking I've been exposed to too much NTR games and reviews on this site. I've been looking at that NTR tag and I enjoy using NTR as a punishment system however I've been a little worried/paranoid about corrupting the girls then have Gwen or someone turn them. That's probably the main reason I'm hesitant to corrupt them. The dialogue change is somewhat annoying (depending on the girl) but is tolerable.

 

[zARRR]

I'm thinking I've been exposed to too much NTR games and reviews on this site. I've been looking at that NTR tag and I enjoy using NTR as a punishment system however I've been a little worried/paranoid about corrupting the girls then have Gwen or someone turn them. That's probably the main reason I'm hesitant to corrupt them. The dialogue change is somewhat annoying (depending on the girl) but is tolerable.

In the end dear user, everything it’s your choice.
It’s not like the game is imposing you to go full harem or corruption, enjoy whatchu want

 

[Satyr90]

Since you have fallen prey to the misslabeling of the Stats.
Some Characters have 3 Routes but most only 2.
There is either the Love route or the NTR route, very rarely there is a girl with an actual corruption route.
What you do is reduceing the inhibition of the girls in question, which is labeled as "corruption"... however it doesn't fundamentaly change them... it's still the girls, but they don't feel ashamed of shareing their sexual fantasies with you if "corruption" raises

I'm thinking that trying to blend the corruption dialogue in with the game would be a better alternative. I've never made a game like what Chyos is doing however I've modded some games in the past where I've been able to create Random/If statements in coding to allow for multiple dialogue options. With the Emily quote listed above it appears desperate yet whenever you go to bed with her, she's always going to give that response. If the Corruption/love route is one route with her then why not allow for multiple options for her to invite the MC into the bed? Mix in corrupt, love, and if the MC hasn't been with her in a while, then allow for more desperate options. I know that coding wise it'd be hell but gamers that appreciate a little romance or flirty dialogue over more crude desperate dialogue would be thankful.

 

[Satyr90]

In the end dear user, everything it’s your choice.
It’s not like the game is imposing you to go full harem or corruption, enjoy whatchu want

Chyos hasn't let me down yet and from what I've experienced in the game everything is based on choice. Yet in the beginning of the game, he stated that he intends to use NTR as a punishment. I keep thinking that sin needs to be punished and I can't help but think that if your alignment is evil and you're corrupting the girls that there has to be a comeuppance. I acknowledge that this is me overthinking all of this, and like I admitted earlier, paranoia. Gwen did say in the beginning of the game that she has spies everywhere... So, is it possible to betray her? Will she turn the girls against you? Will she use the girls to her own end as a punishment? ....like I said, paranoid.

 

[Deleted member 2744443]

Why are candles needed for MC new floor update on house? I have candles but seems no place to use them yet.

 

[Evangelion-01]

I'm thinking I've been exposed to too much NTR games and reviews on this site. I've been looking at that NTR tag and I enjoy using NTR as a punishment system however I've been a little worried/paranoid about corrupting the girls then have Gwen or someone turn them. That's probably the main reason I'm hesitant to corrupt them. The dialogue change is somewhat annoying (depending on the girl) but is tolerable.

Chyos started implementing NTR rather cautiosly at the beginning, so I am pretty sure he didn't intended for such a dark turn.
The game is currently designed to offer an equal ammount of NTR and "Vanilla" Relationships, if Isha would backstab the MC like this all choices so far would be meaningless and the game would be an NTR only game, so I wouldn't worry about that.

I'm thinking that trying to blend the corruption dialogue in with the game would be a better alternative. I've never made a game like what Chyos is doing however I've modded some games in the past where I've been able to create Random/If statements in coding to allow for multiple dialogue options. With the Emily quote listed above it appears desperate yet whenever you go to bed with her, she's always going to give that response. If the Corruption/love route is one route with her then why not allow for multiple options for her to invite the MC into the bed? Mix in corrupt, love, and if the MC hasn't been with her in a while, then allow for more desperate options. I know that coding wise it'd be hell but gamers that appreciate a little romance or flirty dialogue over more crude desperate dialogue would be thankful.

Emily has, as we previously established, the most sexual experience among the women in Arenfield at the start of the game, if you watched her and Marcus in the Intro you'd notice that that quote fits her normal character perfectly.
I think for Emily the corruption only affects her in a way to publicity display her affection and needs to the MC.

Chyos hasn't let me down yet and from what I've experienced in the game everything is based on choice. Yet in the beginning of the game, he stated that he intends to use NTR as a punishment. I keep thinking that sin needs to be punished and I can't help but think that if your alignment is evil and you're corrupting the girls that there has to be a comeuppance. I acknowledge that this is me overthinking all of this, and like I admitted earlier, paranoia. Gwen did say in the beginning of the game that she has spies everywhere... So, is it possible to betray her? Will she turn the girls against her? Will she use the girls to her own end as a punishment? ....like I said, paranoid.

The "punishment" was always meant for failing Quests or loosing in combat... like Emily can be raped if you don't save her in time or get caught to often... or Bianca and Gavina being captured by the Goblins...

Chyos hasn't let me down yet and from what I've experienced in the game everything is based on choice. Yet in the beginning of the game, he stated that he intends to use NTR as a punishment. I keep thinking that sin needs to be punished and I can't help but think that if your alignment is evil and you're corrupting the girls that there has to be a comeuppance. I acknowledge that this is me overthinking all of this, and like I admitted earlier, paranoia. Gwen did say in the beginning of the game that she has spies everywhere... So, is it possible to betray her? Will she turn the girls against her? Will she use the girls to her own end as a punishment? ....like I said, paranoid.

That was most likely a lie to make the MC cooperate with her more easily she doesn't have the slightest idea about what we are up to with her, Sabrina or for example the Orcs and the Church... if she'd known what we are up to she'd either interfere with our Actions before or wouldn't have to be given a lenghty explanation.

 

[ChuckUFarley]

When I win Penny away from Henry, I get a glitch that the time keeps progresswing, and I can't stop it. Anyone else have this one?